[05:24] <mborzecki> morning
[05:47] <mborzecki> mvo: is it equally hot at your location? it's ~8am and 26 degrees in the shade
[05:49] <mvo> mborzecki: its overcast here today so not hot yet
[05:49] <mvo> mborzecki: we had this last week :/
[07:02] <pstolowski> mornings
[07:05] <mvo> hey pstolowski
[07:18] <jamesh> pstolowski: hi.  I ran into a transient unit test failure in the "snap snapshot" tests, and it looks like you've had most involvement in them.  I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1832161 with the details
[07:18] <jamesh> seems like the regexp should be adjusted to account for different amounts of white space
[07:20] <pstolowski> jamesh: hi! thanks for the report, will investigate
[07:57] <mborzecki> pstolowski: hey
[08:00] <pstolowski> jamesh: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6982 should fix i
[08:00] <pstolowski> *it
[08:18] <lss8> is there now a way to disable automatic snap update checks? I'd like to not auto update my snaps as I want to have control over my system and don't need automated updates
[08:18] <lss8> Chipaca ^updates could introduce security issues or there might be malicious updates which I don't want to automatically apply to my stable system
[08:21] <Chipaca> lss8: it seems like a rather poor strawman to me, if you trust the thing enough to install it, you trust it to refresh -- for any case where an update has introduced new vulnerabilities, there have been many that removed them
[08:22] <Chipaca> lss8: unless as I say you're vetting for a large fleet of devices in which case fair enough and there are tools for that
[08:22] <pstolowski> mborzecki: one question to #6980
[08:23] <Chipaca> lss8: for a single device, even for a small handful, you won't have a person full-time vetting things
[08:23] <lss8> Chipaca those are my personal servers and I do have time to run `snap refresh lxd` every once in a while
[08:23] <Chipaca> lss8: at which point you're arguing that existing, known security vulnerabilities are safer than unknown new ones
[08:24] <lss8> I just don't want LXD to update itself when the current release is perfectly stable for me
[08:24] <Chipaca> lss8: you can control when the refresh happens, and how often
[08:24] <Chipaca> lss8: you cannot turn it off
[08:24] <lss8> but.. there's no way to completely turn it off?
[08:24] <Chipaca> lss8: there is no way to opt in to being part of a botnet, no
[08:36] <Chipaca> I wish the forum would close topics after a couple of months of inactivity
[08:37] <Chipaca> six months later "I'm getting the same error: <a completely different error that shares one word (probably "the") with the original>"
[08:41] <jamesh> Chipaca: I think https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6954 is mostly ready.  It ballooned in size a bit adding the Ubuntu Core support though.  I could split that out into a separate PR pretty easily though by cutting off the final four commits
[08:41] <Chipaca> jamesh: I need to circle back to some reviews, yes, sorry for my delay
[08:41] <Chipaca> jamesh: I'll take a look and let you know, re splitting
[08:43] <jamesh> the Ubuntu Core support mainly involved installing the new unit files on core18 systems
[08:50] <pstolowski> Chipaca: hey, do you have a moment for https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6982 ?
[08:52] <Chipaca> pstolowski: sure
[08:58] <pstolowski> Chipaca: ty!
[09:17] <mborzecki> Chipaca: by the looks of it manjaro forums does close the topics after 90 days of inactivity, so maybe it's a configuration option or a feature of some newer version of discourse?
[09:26] <Chipaca> mborzecki: sadly I am only a moderator, not an admin
[09:27] <mborzecki> Chipaca: mhm, i know
[09:28] <mborzecki> Chipaca: looks like discourse https://forum.manjaro.org/t/snapd-is-not-working-since-downgrade-to-systemd-239-6-2-2-advised-in-the-security-update-on-2019-01-19/73774/37 doesn't it?
[09:30] <mborzecki> ha found the exact version even among <meta> tags: Discourse 2.3.0.beta11 - https://github.com/discourse/discourse version ace6ce046273799c866e85942182db7d77bed4d2
[09:30] <mborzecki> we use: Discourse 2.0.0.beta10 - https://github.com/discourse/discourse version 30fbf6fe8181426ff8cab81d10a26c61f635f4d6
[09:33] <jamesh> the downside of closing old topics is that people end up needing to start new topics about the same thing that lose all context from the old discussion
[09:34] <jamesh> it's not always a new user incorrectly diagnosing their bug
[09:34] <Chipaca> jamesh: true, and I may just be noticing the bad ones
[09:52]  * Chipaca brb
[11:20] <zyga> Good morning
[12:21] <pstolowski> hey zyga
[12:35] <Chipaca> #6958 could use another review
[12:52] <zyga> hey pawel  :)
[12:52] <zyga> how are you guys doing?
[12:56] <pstolowski> zyga: the weather is unbearable here, i envy you ;)
[13:29] <zyga> pstolowski: 16C
[13:31] <Chipaca> mvo: I just realied I should've reopened #6582 and targeted it to 2.40; done that now (pending rob's confirmation)
[13:33] <mvo> Chipaca: ok
[13:41] <zyga> pstolowski: and it rains
[13:41] <mvo> zyga: hey, how are you? how is the summit
[13:42] <zyga> pstolowski: I kind of wish it would be not raining so much because the hotel keeps us hostage
[13:42] <zyga> mvo: hey, good morning!
[14:00] <mborzecki> pstolowski: it's getting worse https://i.imgur.com/6MJHkqC.jpg
[14:01] <pstolowski> omg
[14:06] <Chipaca> pedronis, mvo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BCXRzjcX5V/
[14:07] <Chipaca> magic
[14:13] <cachio> mborzecki, pstolowski you feel like me now
[14:13] <pstolowski> cachio: :)
[14:33]  * cachio afk
[14:36] <diddledan> update on centos  : "Job for var-lib-snapd-snap-core-6964.mount failed." See $insert-log-message-checking-message-here - updating 2.38.1 to 2.39.1
[14:42] <mvo> Chipaca: heh
[14:47] <mborzecki> diddledan: that's when the rpm snippets ran right?
[14:48] <mborzecki> diddledan: keep in mind you need to reboot after the update
[15:04] <zyga> mborzecki: o m g
[15:04] <zyga> 41C
[15:07] <mvo> zyga: where?
[15:07] <zyga> mvo: in pl
[15:11] <diddledan> thanks mborzecki
[15:14]  * Chipaca takes a break
[15:14]  * Chipaca does not miss 41°C weather
[18:15] <diddledan> is this a bug? devmode classic confinement snaps seemingly don't inherit environment variables from the calling shell while in stable they do
[18:36]  * cachio afk