| didrocks | good morning | 06:18 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 06:28 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:30 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:57 |
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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:48 |
| Trevinho | morning crew! | 07:49 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, Trevinho | 07:50 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: hi! | 07:50 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks, hi Trevinho | 07:50 |
| marcustomlinson | Goeie môre didrocks duflu oSoMoN Trevinho | 08:00 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 08:00 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN, euro-Trevinho, marcustomlinson and willcooke | 08:02 |
| Laney | yo thar | 08:02 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:02 |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 08:02 |
| marcustomlinson | morning Laney and willcooke | 08:02 |
| oSoMoN | mornin' marcustomlinson, duflu, Laney, willcooke | 08:03 |
| Laney | bloomin HECK it's wet | 08:04 |
| Laney | hi duflu marcustomlinson oSoMoN willcooke | 08:04 |
| * willcooke has a leak this morning | 08:04 | |
| willcooke | in the ceiling | 08:04 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, willcooke | 08:05 |
| marcustomlinson | willcooke: that totally sucks... | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey again, looks like a disconnected earlier! | 08:06 |
| marcustomlinson | morning seb128 | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson Trevinho | 08:07 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks oSoMoN | 08:07 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 08:07 |
| seb128 | everyone had a good w.e (&monday)? | 08:07 |
| Laney | hi didrocks | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:08 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:08 |
| oSoMoN | leaks suck, good luck identifying and fixing it willcooke | 08:08 |
| Laney | moin seb128 | 08:09 |
| Laney | what weekend?!?!?! | 08:09 |
| willcooke | Looks like its coming from around the bottom of an upstairs window then running down inside the wall. Meh, nothing I can do about it now other than get a bucket. | 08:09 |
| Laney | grim | 08:09 |
| Laney | is it in the new bit? | 08:09 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I slept a lot, sunbathed and had bbq, I think that qualifies as a good week-end :) you? | 08:10 |
| willcooke | Laney, yeah | 08:10 |
| willcooke | It can't rain all day, can it | 08:10 |
| Laney | you've done it now | 08:12 |
| willcooke | :D | 08:12 |
| duflu | Welcome back seb128 | 08:13 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, w.e was good and relaxing, weather not that great here though | 08:15 |
| duflu | willcooke, the rain stopped briefly here, till you said that | 08:16 |
| willcooke | ha | 08:16 |
| duflu | But it's a novelty and I love it | 08:17 |
| duflu | If only I had fixed all the roof leaks in summer | 08:17 |
| Trevinho | Ah hey seb128 | 09:34 |
| Trevinho | had good weekend? | 09:35 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho, quite good indeed, we are in France enjoying the nice food :) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, we got called out on planet GNOME (https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2019/06/09/on-ubuntu-updates/) for still not having gnome-shell 3.32.2 SRUed to disco, do you think we should have done that SRU and dropped the ball? | 13:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, same for glib? | 13:10 |
| seb128 | I'm not blaming, I just wonder if we agree we are late/should aim at fixing that | 13:10 |
| seb128 | or if we believe those updates are not that important and it's a bit unfair as a comment | 13:10 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hm IIRC the branch was prepared but blocked because of a regression mhmh | 13:15 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, can you find the regression and comment on the blog with that data? | 13:16 |
| seb128 | the regression reference* | 13:16 |
| Trevinho | seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/3.32.1-1ubuntu1~19.04.1 blocked as per https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/66c2476d86f4d697ff373f99f20c6134c6b5fab3 | 13:22 |
| Laney | seb128: I don't need calling out, GLib is on the list and you can see that from my update on the hub | 13:29 |
| Laney | I'm not happy with the tone of those posts one little bit and I don't think we should be giving people the impression that ranting like that results in us jumping to a load of work | 13:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, fair enough, there is a bit of true that we are not always on top of SRUing stable update but there was no need/point to call out on specifics | 13:32 |
| seb128 | k, meeting | 13:32 |
| seb128 | sorry a bit late | 13:32 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-11 | 13:32 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jun 11 13:32:43 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:32 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:32 |
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| Laney | s/the hub/discourse/ 🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊 | 13:33 |
| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 13:33 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 13:33 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 13:33 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 13:34 |
| seb128 | ok, let's get started | 13:35 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bugs | 13:35 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:35 |
| seb128 | empty | 13:35 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:36 |
| seb128 | out of the ones we already discussed previous week and that still need sorting out | 13:37 |
| seb128 | bug #1786344 | 13:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786344 | 13:37 |
| seb128 | Gunnar nominated this one | 13:37 |
| seb128 | I don't think it has enough heat to be rls tracked | 13:37 |
| seb128 | I suggest assigning to Gunnar and deleting the bionic specific target | 13:38 |
| seb128 | he can still pursue the SRUing | 13:38 |
| marcustomlinson | 👍🏻 | 13:38 |
| seb128 | k, next | 13:39 |
| seb128 | bug # | 13:39 |
| seb128 | bug #1734887 | 13:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1734887 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Cosmic) "No caps lock indicator on login screen" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734887 | 13:39 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ^ do you think that is going to land in 3.30 serie? | 13:40 |
| Trevinho | let me see | 13:40 |
| Laney | does that affect whether we consider it rls? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | I don't know | 13:42 |
| Trevinho | I think we can propose a cherry pick in case. | 13:42 |
| seb128 | hum, /me ponders | 13:42 |
| * Laney thinks not | 13:42 | |
| Laney | either we want to fix it or we don't | 13:42 |
| seb128 | right | 13:42 |
| Trevinho | indeed if we consider important we can still do ourself | 13:42 |
| seb128 | I think it would be nice to fix | 13:42 |
| seb128 | but probably not important enough to be rls targetted | 13:42 |
| Trevinho | a list of nice to have if upstream agrees let's say | 13:43 |
| seb128 | k, let's untarget it? | 13:43 |
| Laney | yes | 13:43 |
| seb128 | thx | 13:43 |
| Laney | dunno why duflu is still doing that, did someone have a word? | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | I prepare the cherry pick anyways we'll see if it lands | 13:43 |
| seb128 | I mentioned it to him, will do again | 13:44 |
| Laney | thx | 13:44 |
| seb128 | that's it for bionic | 13:44 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-cc-bugs | 13:44 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:45 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 13:45 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:45 |
| seb128 | nothing to discuss, still the era thing unsorted and that capslock one | 13:45 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-dd-bugs | 13:45 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:45 |
| seb128 | no desktop entry | 13:45 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:46 |
| seb128 | same, nothing new | 13:46 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ee-bugs | 13:46 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:46 |
| seb128 | the cups one was discussed previous week but I had forgotten to edit post meeting, done now | 13:47 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:47 |
| seb128 | nothing unassigned there | 13:47 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:47 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 13:47 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, kenvandine, what's the status of sorting out the n-m autopkgtest regression post removal of those deprecated libs? | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | I'll check with Till, he's out today | 13:49 |
| seb128 | thx | 13:49 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, the libreoffice one is something on your list? | 13:50 |
| Laney | I made a card for it | 13:50 |
| Laney | maybe check there first if you're going to be leading this section? | 13:50 |
| oSoMoN | there's this one test that's become flaky in eoan, it needs investigating | 13:50 |
| seb128 | k | 13:50 |
| oSoMoN | in the meantime I’ve triggered a new test run | 13:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, sorry, I didn't intend to "lead", I just though it would be the same as previous week so I asked directly about the n-m status | 13:50 |
| seb128 | then there was 1 left, it seemed pointless to ask you to ask about that one only | 13:51 |
| seb128 | thx for making the card, I try to be aware/handle that part better next time | 13:51 |
| Laney | ok, well I usually make the cards around meeting time, for reference | 13:51 |
| Laney | http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/eoan/s390x | 13:51 |
| seb128 | noted | 13:51 |
| Laney | that doesn't obviously say "flaky" to me by the way | 13:51 |
| Laney | more like new openjdk-lts might have impacted it | 13:52 |
| Laney | maybe we get lucky though | 13:52 |
| seb128 | doookoooo | 13:52 |
| seb128 | :p | 13:52 |
| seb128 | but yeah, needs investigating | 13:52 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, look at older failures | 13:52 |
| seb128 | thx oSoMoN Laney | 13:52 |
| xnox | seb128: or like tdaitx ;-) | 13:52 |
| Laney | I mean I see a few crosses | 13:52 |
| Laney | what do you mean? | 13:52 |
| Laney | anyway, if it's flaky... | 13:52 |
| Laney | .... | 13:52 |
| Laney | it shouldn't be | 13:53 |
| oSoMoN | indeed | 13:53 |
| oSoMoN | I'm filing a bug to not forget about it | 13:53 |
| Laney | cool | 13:53 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 13:53 |
| Laney | there's a card too, such tracking | 13:54 |
| seb128 | good, that's it for that section then | 13:54 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 13:54 |
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| seb128 | other topics? | 13:54 |
| didrocks | if a kind AA (not me) from ubuntu-desktop team could review grubzfs-testsuite, that would be awesome :) | 13:54 |
| didrocks | (ok, there is just one candidate matching that description :p) | 13:54 |
| Laney | kind?!?!?!? | 13:55 |
| didrocks | ahah | 13:55 |
| Laney | 😈 | 13:55 |
| * Laney slaps self | 13:55 | |
| seb128 | lol | 13:55 |
| * seb128 gets the hint | 13:55 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, will do | 13:56 |
| didrocks | thx ;) | 13:56 |
| seb128 | other topics? ;) | 13:56 |
| Laney | network-manager on bionic, gnome-shell on disco | 13:56 |
| Laney | are those well handled (particularly the first one) or do people need help? | 13:56 |
| Trevinho | should we organize for guadec? | 13:56 |
| Trevinho | g-s is fine | 13:56 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, can you speak about n-m/bionic since Till is out? what's the status of unblocking that one? | 13:57 |
| Laney | Trevinho: false positive or you have a fix or what? | 13:58 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I've already submitted a fix for that | 13:58 |
| * Laney is getting daily spam emails from Brian | 13:58 | |
| Trevinho | merged to master, 3.30 is a bit different diff so done other pick | 13:59 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, we need another upload with the fix then? | 13:59 |
| Laney | 3.32 branch? | 13:59 |
| Trevinho | might be the case to do our patching only | 13:59 |
| Trevinho | yeah sorry | 13:59 |
| Laney | go bug for reviews, if no luck we can distro patch | 14:00 |
| Laney | imho | 14:00 |
| Trevinho | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/607/ | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | seb128: last week Till verified the split DNS issue was fixed with the systemd update in bionic | 14:00 |
| Trevinho | if you want to help with reviews... | 14:01 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, that's the systemd part but doesn't address the n-m regressions that leaded to have -updates reverted, right? | 14:01 |
| Laney | Trevinho: thx | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | i think he's still trying to understand the regression | 14:02 |
| seb128 | k | 14:03 |
| seb128 | but yeah, it feels like we don't have a good handle on this one | 14:03 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so to answer, yes. although IMHO is quite low priority | 14:03 |
| seb128 | unsure how we can unblock it | 14:03 |
| Trevinho | is something happening on shutdown | 14:03 |
| Laney | it's blocking the SRU from being offered to people | 14:03 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, well, "low priority", our current SRU is blocked from reaching users until that's sorted out | 14:03 |
| Trevinho | or reload... which would be anyways covered by session | 14:04 |
| Trevinho | sure, sure... I'm saying from the bug point of view. indeed I fixed it promptly because of that... | 14:04 |
| seb128 | if you believe that's a non issue for users and should be unflagged please talk to Brian about it asking him to do that | 14:04 |
| Laney | I'll go ping in #gnome-shell if Marco is too shy :-) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | thx! | 14:05 |
| Trevinho | I am :-) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | k, that should be it for now on those I guess | 14:05 |
| seb128 | other topics? | 14:05 |
| seb128 | 30 seconds | 14:06 |
| Trevinho | as for guadec? | 14:06 |
| Laney | seems like an internal one | 14:06 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:06 |
| seb128 | but you are right, let me try to get that ball rolling | 14:07 |
| Laney | cool | 14:07 |
| seb128 | but we don't need the team for it, so let's wrap | 14:07 |
| Trevinho | we can address it internally indeed.... just as a reminder ;-) | 14:07 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 14:07 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jun 11 14:07:12 2019 UTC. | 14:07 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-06-11-13.32.moin.txt | 14:07 |
| seb128 | thx everyone! | 14:07 |
| oSoMoN | thanks | 14:07 |
| Trevinho | thxxxx | 14:07 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 14:08 |
| didrocks | thx | 14:08 |
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| GunnarHj | seb128: Sorry for bothering you through that 18.04.3 milestone. Didn't know you followed it up so closely, it was merely a note to myself. But yes, I will probably SRU it. I.e. if I ever will please Laney with a reasonable eoan fix. :) | 14:41 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: Looking better, will try to review properly soon (or anyone else can if they have time) | 14:45 |
| Laney | thanks for that | 14:45 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Yw. I have tested it back and forth through simulating Chinese/Japanese installs, and I'm really curious to see if it makes a difference once it ends up on a daily build ISO. | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | sigh... another long list of USN refreshes | 14:53 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, makes you dread security updates, doesn't it? ;) | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: yeah... the rebuilds are trivial | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | but then i need to do some testing of them | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | and promote... | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | seems i get them 20 packages at a time | 15:40 |
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| oSoMoN | good evening all | 17:20 |
| Laney | Trevinho: want to prep MPs for experimental/eoan/disco? | 17:27 |
| Trevinho | Laney: k | 17:36 |
| Laney | THANKS! | 17:36 |
| Trevinho | will do later/tomorrow | 17:41 |
| willcooke | night all o/ | 17:57 |
| marcustomlinson | kenvandine: hey, could you please trigger these autopkgtests for me? (Requires upload rights): | 18:49 |
| marcustomlinson | https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=eoan&arch=s390x&package=libreoffice&ppa=marcustomlinson/libreoffice&trigger=libreoffice/1:6.2.4-0ubuntu2~ppa1 | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | marcustomlinson: sure | 18:50 |
| marcustomlinson | thanks | 18:50 |
| kenvandine | marcustomlinson: done | 18:51 |
| marcustomlinson | 👌🏻 | 18:51 |
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