[00:11]  * Eickmeyer is upgrading to eoan
 👍
 i got busy sorry for not replying sooner
 @EIch
 there is a 'poke' :P
[00:47] <teward> Eickmeyer: ^
[00:47] <teward> (Telegram is annoying sometimes)
[00:48] <Eickmeyer> teward: I saw the "sizable bribe of coffee". Would you like that in bean form, pre-ground, or are we talking brewed?
[00:48]  * Eickmeyer lives in what could be considered the coffee capital of America
[00:49] <teward> lol
[00:49] <teward> that was me just stating I'm a consistent caffeine addict :P
[00:49] <teward> which is not news to ANYONE in the Ubuntu world
[00:49] <teward> sarnold can confirm that :p
[00:49] <teward> Eickmeyer: but yes, i told you i'd prod, I'm prodding
[00:49] <teward> Thou hast unleashed The Beast.  :P
[00:50] <Eickmeyer> Hehehehehe!
[00:50] <Eickmeyer> The Coffee Cracken
[00:50] <Eickmeyer> Koffee Kracken?
[00:51] <Eickmeyer> Either one will get misspelt for alliteration reasons.
 heh
[02:08] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: IMO, we can't support custom pulse configs. I think they're trying to call us out on something. If they know so much about pulse, they should've been able to figure it out themselves.
[02:08] <OvenWerks> I think he has copied a recipe from somewhere.
[02:09] <Eickmeyer> And then claimed to have a deep understanding of pulse.
 @azbulutlu I did an evil and poked Canonical IS and Eickmeyer was talking with them :)
 (so things're being poked now)
 i'll let @Eickmeyer explain the rest.
 *disappearifies to go find another drink*
 @teward001 She's asleep, likely. 5:12AM her time.
 i know, but they'll see the heads up later ;)
 i'm headed off myself i'm dead tired... and slightly drunk.
 so :)
[03:01] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: BTW, I did learn from all this pulse stuff that it looks like bluetooth is separate from udev
[03:01] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: That does explain the BT audio with Jack issue people have.
[03:03] <OvenWerks> actually it doesn't. The bt modules are still loaded evenb if udev is not.
[03:03] <Eickmeyer> Well, that blows that theory. :P
 @teward001 @Eickmeyer  \o/
 @azbulutlu So basically social@ forwards to you and me. We can set up a team in Launchpad that gets an email address it can foward to, which then forwards to those email addresses. For now, though, this works.
 my main concern for mailing lists is that it tends to have a public archive somewhere
 otherwise it is probably trivial to create  a ubuntustudio communication team to deal with it. :)
[15:01] <teward> @azbulutlu I mean, you could deploy a PRIVATE listserv instance that we/you would control, private lists are a thing then
[15:01] <teward> for example lubuntu council's list is 'private' archived you need a PW to see those
[15:01] <teward> but you'd need a private list at that point
[15:01] <teward> it MIGHT be possible to have IS spin up some private lists on lists.u.c
[15:01] <teward> but... :P
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: New LMMS released: https://lmms.io/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30408  (probably still stuck in lv1 past)
[15:04] <OvenWerks> yes
[15:04] <OvenWerks> I heard that a new one was released
[15:06] <OvenWerks> 1.2 it says.
[15:08] <OvenWerks> and yes there is no mention of LV2s in the release notes
[15:12] <Eickmeyer> Right.
[15:13] <OvenWerks> Very hard for me to test though. It's workflow is such that I open it up and my mind goes "ok, now what?"
[15:13] <Eickmeyer> Haha, same.
[15:14] <Eickmeyer> RE: HiDeHo: becoming a help vampire quickly.
[15:14] <OvenWerks> I did not see anything in there for direct audio recording either which I would consider more important than lv2 hosting
[15:16] <Eickmeyer> For me, LMMS is a non-starter. But you KNOW someone's going to be like, "Why isn't this included in Ubuntu Studio?!?"
[15:16] <Eickmeyer> I'd just as soon demote it to repo-only. :P
 *uses lmms and loves it*
[15:17] <OvenWerks> re: HiDeHo, it might be a reasonable idea to have a known way of using the file manager in "system mode"
[15:18] <OvenWerks> azbulutlu: you are not the only one.
 @teward001 @eickmeyer I think the current setup is fine. the point is, if tomorrow me and erich gets hit by a bus, someone can contact the IS to take over that email address alias, and add people into it. which is the point.
[15:18] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: there are a number of people who love LMMS and look at it and just go. the workflow is quite obvious to many people
 :)
 it is very familiar if you want to work with midi based loops. so if you are coming from a commercial software like logic pro... I am also planning to learn to use ardour better, its just for different things. :)
[15:20] <OvenWerks> azbulutlu: Yes, qtracktor doesn't seem to fill that void either as it is also quite linear
 (btw mastodon account is now tied to the social@, and it should also now email nag if someone replies/mentions ubuntustudio. (I don't have email notifications on for follows, but I can turn that on too.. )
 @azbulutlu [@teward001 @eickmeyer I think the current setup is fine. the point is, if tomorr …], right, but i'm not on the team.  my connectivity is peripheral
[15:21]  * OvenWerks comes from a band oriented, analog in background and started recording with tape
 so I can't really take over unless the Ubuntu STudio team designated me as an official person to do that
 I just know who to stab on IS :)
 well whoever becomes the lead probably can override that
 yep
 that's why @Eickmeyer's requests carry weight
 I just know who to poke to expedite things ;)
 learned that a lot over the few years
 :) well I am really trying to make sure that whoever ends up the next lead never has the issues Set and Erich ran into
 @teward001 is my desginated cattle prod.
 OvenWerks: yeah qtracktor I believe has some limitations. I was literally taught how to compose music using loops so... *shrugs* :)
 >.> that is bit disturbing way to frame it
 @Eickmeyer nah, you just ask and I deliver because we ALL know I'm a persistent SOB
 well it is much appreciated.
 and you saw even Seth said as much in canonical-sysadmin yesterday xD
 @teward001 [@Eickmeyer nah, you just ask and I deliver because we ALL know I'm a persistent …], Ha! true.
 ahahah
 @teward001 [and you saw even Seth said as much in canonical-sysadmin yesterday xD], Yes. That was hilarious. "Can confirm." *runs*
[15:24] <OvenWerks> I think I was the one who originally suggested LMMS should be included... even though I never use it and don't really know how to even test it.
 I think it being added predates me joining the team yes. *laughs*
 *in all fairness hasn't done music stuff in last year much*
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: It can stick around, I was being facetious.
 *but will soon have to*
 @Eickmeyer [Yes. That was hilarious. "Can confirm." *runs*], I bother sarnold REGULARLY for nginx security concerns, so that's where Seth is coming from there :P
 (in case Eickmeyer never shared, I do a LOT of Server Team interactions, esp. NGINX related)
 (it's how I know my things xD)
[15:27] <Eickmeyer> Back later, I have to get my son off to school.
[15:27]  * OvenWerks just left... thankfully on his own steam.
 xD
 @teward001 i think one of you mentioned earlier, but thank you truly!
 you're welcome :)