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[20:00] <wxl> @tsimonq2: are you back in action for real now?
[20:00] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: are you back in action for real now?], Yes
[20:00] <wxl> @tsimonq2: could you put your feelers out to try to figure out what's going on with the kernel panic in installed eoans?
[20:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: could you put your feelers out to try to figure out what's goin …], Is that consistently repro'able?
[20:01] <lubot> <kc2bez> Yes
[20:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Real hardware or just QEMU?
[20:02] <lubot> <kc2bez> both
[20:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ooh, fun one
[20:02] <lubot> <kc2bez> and vbox
[20:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yeah, I'll look into it tonight
[20:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Only Lubuntu, or more?
[20:02] <wxl> you got the bug report @kc2bez?
[20:02] <wxl> lubuntu
[20:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ooh, even funner.
[20:02] <wxl> yep
[20:03] <wxl> oh
[20:03] <wxl> and the fs is mountable
[20:03] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I love git bisect'ing. Hit me with it :)
[20:03] <wxl> but yet the kernel panic suggests it's not
[20:03] <lubot> <kc2bez> I don't have it handy but I can dig it up
[20:03] <wxl> i fear a cala issue
[20:03] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1829805
[20:03] <ubot93> Ubottu bug 1829805 in linux (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[20:03] <lubot> <lynorian> does it affect other flavors
[20:04] <lubot> <kc2bez> Not all flavors. I tested kubuntu and ubuntu, they were fine
[20:04] <lubot> <kc2bez> That is the bug, thanks wxl
[20:04] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Have you tried encrypted root vs unencrypted root?
[20:04] <wxl> we might want to test all the flavors but my guess is if those aren't affected probably no big deal
[20:04] <wxl> i have on a vm; no change
[20:06] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think I tried both encryped and unencrypted.
[20:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ouuuuuch, so a Cala issue.
[20:06] <wxl> it seems likely
[20:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Could you try one more time with the Unstable CI PPA?
[20:06] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think you mean stable right?
[20:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Both ;)
[20:07] <wxl> no i don't think he does
[20:07] <lubot> <kc2bez> I did try stable
[20:07] <lubot> <kc2bez> no go
[20:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Very fun one
[20:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ok
[20:08] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'll start Git bisecting kernels tonight
[20:08] <wxl> i mean something certainly changed
[20:08] <lubot> <tsimonq2> How certain are we that it's a kernel regression?
[20:09] <wxl> cala (and related tools, e.g. kpmcore) are concerns, but so is the kernel
[20:09] <wxl> i don't think we're certain
[20:09] <wxl> what we know is the filesystem appears to be valid but the kernel can't boot it
[20:09] <lubot> <kc2bez> or at least find it based on the panic
[20:10] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ok, so I'll start with kernel and make my way up
[20:10] <wxl> oooh
[20:10] <wxl> crazy idea
[20:10] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yeah?
[20:10] <lubot> <kc2bez> I'm pretty crazy
[20:10] <wxl> install lubuntu on one partition, ubuntu on another, modify fstab on ubuntu to boot the lubuntu partition
[20:11] <lubot> <kc2bez> I could build that in a VM tonight.
[20:11] <wxl> if it succeeds, that will be.. interesting
[20:11] <lubot> <kc2bez> indeed
[20:12] <wxl> i'm not sure what that will point at but
[20:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> If that succeeds, we know it's GRUB
[20:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Calamares messes with GRUB a little bit
[20:12] <lubot> <kc2bez> That was my original suspect
[20:13] <wxl> hm
[20:13] <wxl> i wonder if we couldn't poke at grub, too, to make it work
[20:13] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Another crazy idea: don't touch GRUB with Calamares
[20:14] <wxl> good one
[21:08] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @lynorian: one for the manual: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/19-04-megathread/24/52?u=tsimonq2
[21:11] <wxl> fail you're too late
[21:11] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Oh?
[21:12] <wxl> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/06/10/%23lubuntu-devel.html#t19:25
[21:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> darn XD
[21:13] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Good work either way lynorian :)
[23:05] <lynorian> I don't quite have the screenshot yet though
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[23:20] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @lynorian: Are you working both on the 19.04 branch and master or just master?
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[23:21] <lubot> <tsimonq2> The server is on 19.04 fwiw, you might want to change version strings on master to reflect 19.10 :)
[23:21] <lynorian> still working on stuff that is still on 19.04 can't really write new stuff for 19.10 with the kernel panic and this stuff will probably still apply to 19.10 
[23:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ahh
[23:22] <wxl> but to answer your question, 19.04+master
[23:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> got it
[23:25] <lubot> <tsimonq2> By the way, where's Appendix B? 😆
[23:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Is it the 13th floor of the Lubuntu Manual?
[23:26] <lynorian> I never have gotten around to writing it yet
[23:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Ahh got it
[23:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Just messing with you :)
[23:26] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Keep up the good work
[23:27] <wxl> TIL there's a thing like hot corners in OpenBox with the {TL,TR,BL,BR}Corner contexts in mouse binding http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings#Mouse_bindings
[23:28] <wxl> what do you think about a wiki page open to the public where people could just drop in ideas for documentation?
[23:28] <lynorian> it is in the outline still and then wxl made the great discourse post for why to contribute
[23:28] <wxl> @lynorian: feel free to run with that!
[23:29] <lynorian> which contributing was supposed to be appendix B
[23:29] <wxl> seriously just copypasta that
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[23:37] <wxl> :)
[23:38] <lubot> <tsimonq2> :D
[23:38] <lynorian> I might need to do some formatting though
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