[00:27] <SmSh> Hi, I've been trying to debug an issue with building the dolpin emulator, and I discovered that qt applications in general are displaying completely borked on my screen. Example:https://i.imgur.com/XMsGba1.png
[00:27] <SmSh> Amy tips on how to fix this issue? Thanks!
[00:28] <SmSh> Sorry, the issue is with running the built emulator, not building it
[00:28] <SmSh> VLC (qt) is also not working
[00:56] <longus_catus> Hello.  I'm using ubuntu 19.04.  I used to be able to connect to my pc with bluetooth using the a2dp profile.  Now, that service doesn't appear any more...  anyone have hints on fixing this?
[00:59] <longus_catus> It only connects for call audio now
[00:59] <Bashing-om> longus_catus: Maybe there is a problem: ->
[00:59] <Bashing-om> longus_catus: "< jeremy31> Anyone know why it is difficult to switch a bluetooth headset from HFP/HSP to A2DP?  I usually
[00:59] <Bashing-om>                   have to use Blueman to disconnect from the device and then reconnect to headset for  it to use
[00:59] <Bashing-om>                   A2DP.  It seems to only affect devices with mics and/or volume controls as a simple bluetooth
[00:59] <Bashing-om>                   speaker pod will use A2DP automatically
[00:59] <Bashing-om> "
[01:00] <longus_catus> speaker pods have volume controls...
[01:00] <longus_catus> Thanks, Bashing-om
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Ouch .. forgot that urc has line returms :(
[01:00] <Eickmeyer> Bashing-om: Uh... !paste?
[01:01] <longus_catus> I'll ask it differently...  This worked before killing x or something.  What services can I restart to make sure ...it's restarted?  I cycled bluetooth power, restarted bluetooth service and bluemon too
[01:01] <longus_catus> I'll try axing pulseaudio
[01:01] <Bashing-om> Eickmeyer: Naw .. not in this bad bad case .. a text ediitor !
[01:07] <solidfox> hello i am trying to debug a program
[01:07] <solidfox> and im getting "program" is not responding
[01:07] <solidfox> its kinda in the way and keeps showing up :/
[01:08] <sarnold> solidfox: can you just shove that dialog out of the way and leave it there?
[01:08] <longus_catus> alright, i killed pulseaudio and i restarted /etc/init.d/bluetooth and now it works
[01:08] <gallomimia> i have a few games that say not responding while they load
[01:08] <gallomimia> but it only shows once
[01:08] <longus_catus> if you've suspended a program using a debugger, it will stop responding
[01:08] <longus_catus> hint: debugging the x server is a fatal idea
[01:09] <longus_catus> "The biggest mistake you've ever made"
[01:09] <longus_catus> Oops... "The last mistake you'll ever make"
[01:09] <solidfox> um
[01:09] <solidfox> no im not debugging the x server
[01:09] <solidfox> i need this to work
[01:13] <longus_catus> And not poppng up that notification would be sufficient?
[01:14] <solidfox> yes it keeps popping up and i cant move it, it just stay in the middle of the window
[01:16] <sarnold> ew :(
[01:16] <solidfox> sarnold: ikr
[01:17] <solidfox> never had this problem in kde
[01:17] <gallomimia> pretty sure that means its actually not responding
[01:17] <solidfox> gallomimia: its not.. if i run it without debugging it works find
[01:17] <gallomimia> still haven't told us what program. we're all just speculating and hoping for the best at this point
[01:18] <solidfox> gallomimia: https://github.com/ericshawlinux/aft-game2/tree/LabelRefactor
[01:19] <sarnold> rofl "Amazing falling tetromino game"
[01:19] <solidfox> sarnold: the original name was tetris-clone2 but tetris is taken
[01:20] <gallomimia> so let me get this straight... it runs normally. but it hangs when you run it in debug?
[01:20] <gallomimia> yep. debuggers hang a program. on purpose.
[01:20] <sarnold> gallomimia: the problem is the window manager or desktop environment or something is trying to be too clever, and pops up an annoying dialog box
[01:20] <solidfox> gallomimia: yeah they're called breakpoints
[01:20] <gallomimia> yeah....
[01:20] <solidfox> gallomimia: i get this error when i hit a breakpoint
[01:20] <gallomimia> let's search google
[01:21] <solidfox> it shouldnt show up
[01:21] <solidfox> because i WANT it to stop
[01:22] <solidfox> breakpoints are essential, stopping the program so i can examine what is displayed is needed and also examine memory
[01:22] <solidfox> cant see whats displayed with the window there
[01:22] <gallomimia> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1019086/false-application-not-responding-box-is-creating-havoc-with-gdb
[01:22] <sarnold> gallomimia: can you see the deleted answer on that page?
[01:22] <solidfox> "Note 3: It appears this has been fixed in Ubuntu 18.04 (GCC 7.3)."
[01:23] <gallomimia> no
[01:23] <solidfox> apparently there was a regression cause its broke again in Ubuntu 19.04
[01:23] <solidfox> cc (Ubuntu 8.3.0-6ubuntu1) 8.3.0
[01:23] <solidfox> gcc*
[01:24] <gallomimia> mhmmm
[01:24] <sarnold> solidfox: what version gnome-shell ar eyou running?
[01:24] <sarnold> comment #26 suggests it should be fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1740869 in version 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.1
[01:24] <solidfox> GNOME Shell 3.32.0
[01:25] <solidfox> another regression?
[01:25] <sarnold> solidfox: i'm guessing the fix wasn't in 3.32
[01:25] <solidfox> its ok i understand.
[01:25] <gallomimia> .... i guess the people writing code and debugging for Ubuntu releases.... don't use ubuntu to do it?
[01:25] <gallomimia> that's, embarrassing :(
[01:26] <sarnold> solidfox: please file a bug against gnome-shell, and reference that this bug should be fixed for the version you're running, too
[01:26] <solidfox> i really liked the way ubuntu looked, and it was much better than 18.10
[01:26] <solidfox> sarnold: how do i do that
[01:26] <sarnold> oh. hrm. "This has already been fixed both in Disco and Cosmic"  :/
[01:27] <sarnold> solidfox: 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell', then fill in the webpage that launches
[01:27] <solidfox> oh i have an update for gnome shell
[01:27] <solidfox> let me try that
[01:32] <solidfox> yeah still happening unfortunately
[01:33] <sarnold> solidfox: dang. I was hopeful :(
[01:34] <gallomimia> there's a script here that claims to kill such a dialog: https://askubuntu.com/questions/412917/how-to-increase-waiting-time-for-non-responding-programs
[01:35] <sarnold> hahahaha
[01:36] <sarnold> the script looks like garbage, but it's an interesting way to try to make this thing less painful
[01:38] <solidfox> i just found ubuntu-bug program
[01:38] <solidfox> it makes it easy to report a problem
[01:38] <gallomimia> maybe you can turn mutter off while doing the debugging
[01:38] <solidfox> Oops!
[01:38] <solidfox> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[01:38] <solidfox> nvm bug reporting is down too
[01:40] <sarnold> solidfox: wow.. copy that oops-id down.. try again.. and if it fails a second time, please pop into #launchpad and paste in the oops-ids
[01:40] <solidfox> yeah it has happened twice
[01:40] <solidfox> idk i hope im not bothering them
[01:40] <solidfox> it is linux after all
[01:40] <solidfox> bugs are expected
[01:41] <sarnold> lauchpad folks are usually happy to chase down an oops-id
[01:41] <sarnold> well,maybe 'happy' isn't quite the right word, but they've never asked me to stop :)
[01:41] <solidfox> ok
[01:55] <ZeZu> C++17  std::filesystem::exists() is broken on my system lol
[02:36] <signalsout> :)
[02:48] <eraserpencil> audio seems to be turned off each time i start my laptop. How can i check which process it is that's turning it off?
[03:08] <friendlyGoat> hey i was wondering, how would i go about re-enabling my Boot Splash Screen?
[03:08] <friendlyGoat> i dont want the text anymore, i just want the splash screen but i have no idea how to fix it
[03:11] <sarnold> the usual way to get text booting is to remove "quiet splash" from your kernel command line; if that sounsd like what you did, edit /etc/default/grub, put them back, then run sudo update-grub
[03:29] <Elliria> Hey there, I had an ifconfig command to get my netmask, but my understanding is that Ubuntu no longer uses ifconfig. Is there a new command to get your netmask?
[03:31] <sarnold> Elliria: dont go, on phone..
[03:31] <Elliria> Okay.
[03:31] <sarnold> Elliria: ifconfig can't do the full range of what the linux kernel can do, which is why the ip command is replacing it
[03:32] <sarnold> ifconfig is probably still available if you want to install it though
[03:32] <Elliria> Okay, not a problem. I'm just wondering if there's an ip command to get the netmask. Do you happen to know it or another way to get the netmask from the command line?
[03:32] <Elliria> No, I'd like to do this with default software.
[03:32] <solidfox> man ip
[03:32] <Elliria> I looked at the man page and didn't find it. Is it in there?
[03:33] <solidfox> no :(
[03:34] <sarnold> ip addr will dump the thing in CIDR format..
[03:34] <solidfox> the help for ip command is a bit... complicated
[03:34] <sarnold> most tools can accept that, so that's easiest :)
[03:34] <solidfox> all them symbols
[03:34] <sarnold> for a decade or so there wasn't even the bloody docs. just the source. no wonder it's taken twenty years for ip to replace ifconfig :)
[03:34] <Elliria> I used to do ifconfig | grep 'Mask:'| grep -v '127.0.0.1' | cut -d: -f4 and am looking for something like that that will get me just the netmask. Is there such a thing nowadays?
[03:35] <Elliria> All of my Google searches so far are turning up either old instructions using ifconfig or manual instructions for going manually into the router while I'm looking for a quick command.
[03:36] <sarnold> you can try this? ip a | awk '/^    inet/ {print $2;}'
[03:36] <sarnold> (that's four spaces in the awk matching field)
[03:37] <Elliria> Thanks, but, sadly, that gave me four lines of information and none of it was the netmask.
[03:38] <Elliria> Unless that last line with all the letters in it is the netmask written in CIDR format, which I'm not familiar with. Is it?
[03:38] <dorao> my wifi indicator in xfce broke recently (running 19.04).  Can somebody point me to what I should start looking into?
[03:38] <eraserpencil> pulseaudio isnt turning on my speakers on boot. What's a good way to see what is turning it off/ how to turn it off at boot?
[03:38] <eraserpencil> i mean how to turn it on at boot
[03:40] <jane_lane> Have you checked alsamixer for a muted line ?
[03:40] <eraserpencil> hmmm, where should i go to check that?
[03:43] <puppetmasterFPU> check the "session and startup" tool and make sure pulseaudio is loading
[03:45] <leftyfb> Elliria: ipcalc  $(ip -o addr show dev wlp58s0|awk '/inet / {print $4}')|awk '/Netmask/ {print $2}' # replacing wlp58s0 with your interface... and installing ipcalc
[03:45] <jane_lane> alsamixer in a term
[03:45] <leftyfb> Elliria: unless you can just deal with the CIDR, in which case you don't need to use ipcalc
[03:45] <jane_lane> Sorry eraserpencil had a issue here had to take care of
[03:47] <Elliria> leftyfb: Ouch. Are those the only ways?
[03:48] <eraserpencil> jane_lane no worries
[03:48] <Elliria> I'm trying to update my static IP tutorial with simple steps anybody can easily follow with software that's installed by default.
[03:48] <leftyfb> Elliria: what does that have to do with finding your netmask?
[03:48] <Elliria> Because you must know your netmask in order to choose an IP.
[03:49] <leftyfb> Elliria: how can you know your netmask if you don't have an ip?
[03:49] <Elliria> You have an IP.
[03:49] <leftyfb> Elliria: I don't understand the workflow here
[03:49] <leftyfb> Elliria: if you have an ip, then why do you need to choose an ip?
[03:50] <Elliria> It's irrelevant to my request. My request is to find out if I can get my netmask from the command line.
[03:50] <leftyfb> Elliria: I showed you that above
[03:50] <Elliria> You don't. But if you want to assign a static IP, you need to properly choose one, in which case you need to know your netmask. But once again, that's irrelevant to my request.
[03:50] <Elliria> Yes, thank you. I'm hoping someone will show me how it's done with default software.
[03:51] <leftyfb> Elliria: setting a static ip based on the ip you get from dhcp is a terrible idea. Especially one on a network where you don't have control over the dhcp server
[03:52] <Elliria> I'm not doing that, leftyfb. I'm instructing others on how to use their netmask to choose a static IP.
[03:52] <leftyfb> Elliria: ipcalc is the way to go
[03:52] <Elliria> Okay, thank you, leftyfb.
[03:52] <sarnold> Elliria: the CIDR is in some sense better than the netmask, because (a) it's only three chars total, rather than 15 (b) mistakes are a thousand times easier to spot with CIDR than with netmasks
[03:52] <leftyfb> Elliria: it'll show you the dhcp range based on the CIDR which you can get from the ip command I posted above
[03:52] <sarnold> Elliria: that's why nearly everything takes CIDR these days
[03:53] <Elliria> Why is ipcalc not installed by default?
[03:53] <sarnold> only a handful of people need it
[03:54] <Elliria> Interesting. Thanks, sarnold.
[03:56] <eraserpencil> so im loooking at Startup Application Preferences and I believe this application: "Slimbook Battery Autostart" that's causing pulseaudio to turn off. The thing is, I've removed slimbook a while back and not sure why it's still showing up.
[03:57] <eraserpencil> I dont see slimbook in htop, ps -aux, or systemctl list of services
[04:02] <friendlyGoat> if anyone sees my question, ping me so i can see please
[04:16] <zdf> w
[04:16] <zdf> ls
[04:49] <while123> how can I enable vt340 support in the terminal?
[04:50] <jack> what's vt340?
[04:51] <Jonno_FTW> hello
[04:51] <Jonno_FTW> why do thunar and files take so long to delete a directory of files when rm can do it near instantly?
[04:52] <while123> jack: its one type of standard governing part of how the terminal works (most seem to be vt220)
[04:52] <puff> vt stands for virtual terminal.
[04:52] <while123> like how the characters can be colored, escape sequences, etc
[04:53] <jack> mmh
[04:53] <puff> It defines what capabilities the terminal has and what escape codes the server sends to the terminal in order to use those capabilities.
[04:53] <while123> it seems vt340 supports sixels, but terminal doesn't seem to support them
[04:53] <puff> My favorite being the answerback buffer.
[04:54] <puff> I know someone who figured out how to use escape codes to reprogram the answerback buffer on vt100 terminals.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> Jonno_FTW: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[04:56] <artyx> using BB in ubuntu, is there a way to set gpm style clipboard settings for mouse?
[04:56] <Jonno_FTW> lotuspsychje: 18.04
[04:56] <artyx> Like click/drag == select/copy and right click/middle click == paste
[04:57] <Jonno_FTW> lotuspsychje: I assume it's distro independent because it happens on fedora as well
[04:57] <artyx> that right click->copy is a drag
[04:57] <Jonno_FTW> probably just the way that those file managers handle deleting folders recursively
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Jonno_FTW: how about your system specs? ram? hd/ssd? cpu?
[04:58] <Jonno_FTW> 32gb ram, i7 9700k
[04:58] <Jonno_FTW> on a hdd
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> Jonno_FTW: that should be plenty, wich flavour of ubuntu?
[04:59] <Jonno_FTW> regular
[04:59] <artyx> and how do you delete the files? rm -f? GUI?
[04:59] <Jonno_FTW> gui
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> Jonno_FTW: maybe you can try launching thunar from terminal to see whats happening and also htop and a tail -f /var/log/syslog
[05:00] <artyx> How many folder lvls? How many files per folder
[05:00]  * artyx wants to set this up and test ...
[05:01] <Jonno_FTW> I think tens of thousands of files
[05:01] <artyx> under each folder?
[05:03] <Jonno_FTW> yes
[05:04] <Jonno_FTW> actually, it's the output of scrapy httpcache if you've ever used that
[05:04] <artyx> that helps
[05:04] <Jonno_FTW> so there's a folder with hundreds of folders, each has a subfolder with 6 files
[05:04] <artyx> =) i'm testing time to remove on disk right now
[05:05] <Jonno_FTW> rm -rf httpcache is very fast, thunar takes forever
[05:10] <artyx> okay .. i've got 4 levels deep, 10k files per dir, which is a LOT of files
[05:10] <artyx> still creating ... lol
[05:12] <Jonno_FTW> that should be enough
[05:14] <artyx> Well i just crashed the gui .. so maybe too much
[05:16] <Jonno_FTW> yeah but do it in terminal and it will be quick
[05:19] <artyx> well its 100*100*100*100 dirs with 10k files per 4th lvl
[05:19] <artyx> i guess that was too much typing. coulda done with 100^4 .. but that doesnt convey the magnificence of such a shell cmd
[05:21] <artyx> only getting about 50MB/s on the file create. so let this run for a min, and i'll try the file manager... just the default?
[05:24] <artyx> Jonno_FTW: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://pastedb.io/paste/1cb07b50-fb61-45e7-73e4-63f19ac76d29%2393e42e6bbe69643473a50062e9298e27a5f1eebfaca887c920019d1b258941fb&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1560403436294000&usg=AFQjCNFdVLE_0tocmDMQAYDKVL6IeerUAQ
[05:24] <fastfresh> How to skip grub select os menu at boot? I did a clean install, I dont have any other oses
[05:24] <artyx> wow .. whats with that crappy link
[05:25] <artyx> Jonno_FTW: https://pastedb.io/paste/1cb07b50-fb61-45e7-73e4-63f19ac76d29#93e42e6bbe69643473a50062e9298e27a5f1eebfaca887c920019d1b258941fb
[05:25] <artyx> is there an easier way of doing that nest i wonder
[05:25] <Jonno_FTW> ok
[05:26] <artyx> except i have a typo
[05:27] <artyx> something is not right 12K./087/064/000..100}/testfile_00000..10000.bin
[05:27] <artyx> oh d and wow have extra space
[05:32] <artyx> Okay .. its running merrily
[05:35] <artyx> almost done with a/a/*/* ... that should be 10k folders
[05:36] <artyx> Just using the default file manager, to delete the files. takes about ... half a second to delete... Now thats not purge trash or whatever
[05:37] <artyx> let the full a set finish, and i'll try again
[05:47] <artyx> Jonno_FTW: Do you use "files" to delete stuff, or some other app ...
[05:48] <Jonno_FTW> artyx: I use thunar
[05:52] <artyx> adding it.. i wanted to test this slowness
[05:52] <artyx> Its 12GB per final directory .. so 12G*100^4 total file space.. wondering if i should have gone wiht smaller files
[05:53] <artyx> no, ive got enough.. barely
[05:55] <artyx> Holy cow Jonno_FTW.. that is a sLOW app
[05:55] <artyx> just to index 1010203 items .. took awhile
[05:56] <artyx> can't wait to see how big an A level dir takes, since its still populating a/B/* right now
[06:19] <Jonno_FTW> just use rm -rf
[06:20] <BeepBeepJeep> How do I move everything from one partition to a new clean install?
[06:21] <BeepBeepJeep> that way I don't have to reinstall everything
[06:24] <vlt> BeepBeepJeep: Can you give an example for something you want to move?
[06:24] <BeepBeepJeep> I want to move two partitions
[06:24] <BeepBeepJeep> my root and my home dir!
[06:25] <BeepBeepJeep> well
[06:26] <BeepBeepJeep> I have two partitions on a drive i want to transfer them to a new drive thats bigger.
[06:28] <jane_lane> BeepBeepJeep, although it can be done via dd and or other methods id suggest clonezilla or such liveusb/livedvd to move to the larger drive.
[06:30] <BeepBeepJeep> Alright. I'll look into it.
[06:30] <BeepBeepJeep> I have a few drives I need to do.
[06:30] <BeepBeepJeep> One after eachother, if the need be!
[06:32] <blackflow> BeepBeepJeep: be careful with dd as that will lead to duplication of UUIDs
[06:56] <gallomimia> oh that's interesting
[06:57] <gallomimia> i also have a drive that needs moving. it's a partition on a plain drive, which i want copied inside an LVM and other container. clonezilla and not DD?
[06:58] <vlt> gallomimia: If you know what you're doing dd (or ddrescue or pv ...) are totally fine.
[06:59] <gallomimia> i've used dd quite a few times without shooting myself in the foot
[07:00] <gallomimia> but it's currently booting this system. i've heard bootable partitions don't like that. and i've had trouble with this windows partition on another system
[07:14] <janie_away> Ive had alot of luck with dd and ddrescue myself but clonezilla seems to be safer in my opinion. Especially if you use a third disk and make images first as a temporary state incase of errors . Bootsectors and all .
[07:23] <kim_bruning> I'm looking for documentation on the default full disk encryption done by the regular ubuntu installer. When googling I keep finding (somewhat older?) documentation on how to do it manually, but I'm looking for how it gets done automatically these days.
[07:26] <kim_bruning>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption <-  is first ghit, and does explain how to do it manually, but doesn't seem to include what the installer does automatically.
[07:27] <janie_away> A good place to start would be
[07:27] <janie_away> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/AdvancedPartitioningSchemes
[07:31] <kim_bruning> the slideshow links on that page looked really promising, but they are currently 404 (were stored on google picasa?)
[07:32] <janie_away> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/PartMan
[07:32] <janie_away> Also a good read
[07:33] <janie_away> partman is ubiquity's partitioning feature
[07:33] <kim_bruning> fair enough. That might be one piece of the puzzle, but ^f-crypt gets 0 hits. :-/
[07:34]  * kim_bruning is mildly worried that #ubuntu doesn't go "RTFM noob you can find it at ..." and links directly to the relevant document. :-P
[07:34] <kim_bruning> I do appreciate your help though ;-)
[07:37] <janie_away> Your asking about the process built into ubiquity the results are basically the same if you do it manually or use the installer. Not sure there is a tell all documentstion for this.
[07:38] <kim_bruning> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1773457   <- says the documented method is not the one used by the ubuntu installer :-/
[07:39] <janie_away> The possible combinations are staggering. The diversity of hardware and software involved is varied to say the least . Partman uses recipe's to derive its stepfeom the hardware combo found in the particular system
[07:39] <kim_bruning> fair enough, I guess I can look at the partman code to see what it decided for my system
[07:39] <janie_away> Thats a great place to start
[07:40] <kim_bruning> in any case (ubuntu 16) seems to indeed have /boot on-the-metal, while it has a lvm pv on /dev/mapper/..._crypt
[07:41] <janie_away> yes even 18.04 is that way
[07:42] <kim_bruning> This is a lot harder than it should be ^^;;;;
[07:43] <janie_away> kernel is needed to decrypt if it is encrypted it becomes even harder to achiev this
[07:44] <janie_away> grub and kernel live on /boot
[07:44] <kim_bruning> Well, I mean just finding the information ;-)
[07:44] <kim_bruning> And obviously having the kernel unencrypted is nonideal, but that's a different bridge which I'm not going to be crossing today :-P
[07:46] <kim_bruning> janie_away, hmm, would you happen to know where to look for the ubuntu partman (git) repo?
[07:46]  * kim_bruning shall go forth and RTFC
[07:46] <janie_away> its a kernel that exists on most other installs as well even if you encrypted it a usb stick and bootload/kernel combo and the knowledge and you can get around it if your wanting complete id suggest something like truecrypt
[07:47] <kim_bruning> Nah, I'm just looking for TFM. Having failed that, TFC is fine too.
[07:47]  * kim_bruning is documenting today.
[07:49] <janie_away> Https://github.com/installer-team/partman-auto
[07:50] <janie_away> but i get a 404
[07:50] <janie_away> Wants login
[07:51] <kim_bruning> :-/
[07:51] <kim_bruning> <_< suspicious
[07:52] <Mava42> question: why does my machine have avahi-daemon ?
[07:52] <Mava42> this is the only device in the network without any "services" anywhere near inside the firewall. In case I'll remove it - what breaks ?
[07:55] <kim_bruning> janie_away, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/partman-auto/ubuntu/files/677   aha, ubuntu uses bzr, not git . Fiiiine
[07:56] <janie_away> Avahi is mdns/dns-sd aka  apples zeroconfig or bonjour
[07:56] <janie_away> sweet you found it
[07:56] <Mava42> janie_away: how so?
[07:57] <janie_away> Registers local ips and static services
[07:58] <guiverc> Mava42, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/avahi-daemon.8.html or http://avahi.org/  ; from reading those i suspect you'll only have issues as janie_away already stated
[07:59] <janie_away> Https://linux.die.net/man/8/avahi-daemon
[07:59] <Mava42> guiverc: thats what I'm expecting to happen as well
[07:59] <janie_away> Explains it pretty well
[08:00] <Mava42> yup, better to keep it on
[08:01] <Mava42> things likely just work better with it
[08:01] <janie_away> yes
[08:01] <kim_bruning> Welp,I'm out of my timebox for today. if anyone knows more about where ubuntu's default encrypted install is implemented, give me a poke
[08:01] <blackflow> kim_bruning: what do you mean "where"?
[08:02] <Krikke> hey, did openvpn break for anyone else lately?
[08:03] <Krikke> first I didn't get dns and then just network unreachable, this setup has been working for 6 months
[08:03] <kim_bruning> sorry blackflow... I was just looking for some documentation on how ubuntu's default encrypted install is implemented. (I promised to help out the company's compliance officer. Clever me %-) )
[08:04] <kim_bruning> blackflow, I do seem to have some of the source code now (partman-auto) , but that seems to modify an underlying package. That'll take a while to sort out %-P
[08:04] <blackflow> kim_bruning: it's a LUKS container atop of which Ubuntu installs LVM atop of which it sets up filesystems. If you need more details, I suppose you'd have to look into the installer source code
[08:04] <kim_bruning> blackflow, that was my conclusion too %-/
[08:05] <blackflow> kim_bruning: so what kind of detail are you after?
[08:05] <kim_bruning> Just basically what it sets up, which luks configuration is used, etc.
[08:07] <kim_bruning> are you sure it's not eCryptfs?
[08:07] <blackflow> kim_bruning: default one, which is aes xts plain64, sha256 key, default number of iterations
[08:08] <kim_bruning> blackflow, Oh, where (did/would) you dinf that info?
[08:08] <blackflow> it's a standard LUKS setup
[08:08] <kim_bruning> where did you find , I mean
[08:08] <blackflow> also obtainable with cryptsetup luksDump after the fact
[08:09] <blackflow> kim_bruning: I'd advise you to install Ubuntu in a VM and then inspect all the details of it you want :)
[08:09] <kim_bruning> Ole!
[08:09] <ryusaku> how can i make this rename script (to replace 'v' in several filenames with '0') to work on files with spaces in them? for f in *v*; do mv -v "$f" $(echo "$f" | tr 'v' '0'); done
[08:09] <kim_bruning> pay dirt. <3 blackflow
[08:10] <kim_bruning> eh I have it installed on the metal, that works too
[08:10] <blackflow> sure
[08:10] <vlt> ryusaku: Quotes around $() should work.
[08:12] <kim_bruning> ryusaku,  start with ....  IFS=;for f in *v*;do echo "--->${f}<---"; done
[08:12] <geirha> for f in *v*; do mv -v "$f" "${f//v/0}"; done
[08:13] <kim_bruning> Or just do what geirha says :-P
[08:13] <ryusaku> vlt : thanks!
[08:13] <ryusaku> geirha ; that worked. thank you
[08:15] <ryusaku> kim_bruning :)
[08:16] <kim_bruning> TIL bash supports regex replace ^^;;
[08:17] <geirha> it's not regex
[08:17] <Krikke> ah lol, something modified my systemd unit file, got it fixed
[08:18] <geirha> it uses globs. The only place bash uses regex is with the [[ keyword's =~ operator
[08:46] <kim_bruning> geirha, Heh
[08:46] <kim_bruning> Thanks for all the help! blackflow janie_away , et al :-)
[09:04] <bryanroderyck> hello ubuntu im having trouble installing over terminal it says "unable to locate package"
[09:05] <puppetmasterFPU> what are you trying to install?
[09:05] <bryanroderyck> ifconfig
[09:06] <puppetmasterFPU> that is part of net-tools package
[09:06] <puppetmasterFPU> use "sudo apt install net-tools"
[09:06] <puppetmasterFPU> then you should be able to run ifconfig
[09:09] <bryanroderyck> thanks puppetmasterFPU
[09:09] <puppetmasterFPU> you are very welcome
[09:17] <j_c> Hi anyone using , Ubuntu server 18 with more than 1 NIC cards? I am not able to bring network up on the second NIC
[09:18] <j_c> same issue on Ubuntu server 16.04 as well
[09:19] <puppetmasterFPU> you should try #ubuntu-server
[09:19] <puppetmasterFPU> might have better luck in there
[09:20] <j_c> @puppetmasterFPU, thanks I will check in #ubuntu-server
[09:21] <puppetmasterFPU> no problem. sorry i couldn't help you
[09:22] <j_c> I was not aware of IRC, you have pointed me in the right direction. Thanks for you help
[09:40] <Senhara> Alright, so yeah, I rebooted, couldn't log in. Chrooted in from the other OS and I think I fixed everything
[10:09] <acebrianjuan> Hi folks
[10:09] <EriC^^> hi
[10:09] <acebrianjuan> I have a question about terminology
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !ask
[10:11] <puppetmasterFPU> acebrianjuan: what is your question?
[10:12] <acebrianjuan> how should I refer to the "items" inside the /dev/ directory? devices? ports?
[10:12] <acebrianjuan> I know the question is a bit weak
[10:13] <puppetmasterFPU> odd question. i've never put any thought into it to be frank
[10:14] <acebrianjuan> if I do an ls /dev/ I can see many interfaces like loop null sda tty etc...
[10:14] <acebrianjuan> I don't know how should I call these
[10:14] <EriC^^> acebrianjuan: they are literally devices, it depends there's block devices character devices etc
[10:15] <puppetmasterFPU> well you need to remember, everything in the linux filesystem structure is considered a file
[10:15] <EriC^^> acebrianjuan: block devices read in blocks, characters in characters etc
[10:15] <acebrianjuan> EriC^^: ok, how would you tag a tty device? a character device?
[10:15] <EriC^^> acebrianjuan: try it yourself
[10:15] <acebrianjuan> puppetmasterFPU: that's true so they really are files in the end
[10:15] <EriC^^> ls -l /dev/tty1
[10:16] <EriC^^> you'll see it starts with a "c" indicating it's a character device
[10:16] <puppetmasterFPU> that's right. everything is a file. that's my point
[10:16] <puppetmasterFPU> to ask what is the correct terminology is not an entirely accurate question to start with
[10:16] <acebrianjuan> ok, so I think it's safe to call them devices
[10:16] <puppetmasterFPU> i would dismiss the question
[10:17] <puppetmasterFPU> acebrianjuan: that would be a loose answer, but yes
[10:17] <acebrianjuan> I am writing a piece of code and wanted to make sure that I named my variables accordingly
[10:17] <EriC^^> if you want the most accurate definition, acebrianjuan the files in /dev are either block device files, or character device files
[10:17] <acebrianjuan> so that's the reason for making the question
[10:18] <acebrianjuan> EriC^^: ok, thank you EriC^^
[10:18] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:29] <ajain> !patience
[10:34] <Mava42> !coffee
[10:53] <multifractal> 16.04 Dell 9365. My cursor keeps freezing/disappearing. Usually it happens after locking and unlocking, but sometimes is happens right in the middle of use. Usually if I just close the lid and reopen it (instead of ctrl+alt+L) the cursor doesn't disappear. The only solution I have is to reboot.
[10:54] <TJ-> multifractal: that is likely related to the GPU and drivers, or possibly the compositor
[10:55] <multifractal> what should i do?
[10:56] <TJ-> multifractal: first thing is always to review various log files for hints and clues, kernel log ('dmesg'), /var/log/Xorg.0.log (Xserver), $HOME/.xsession_errors (user session)
[11:29] <andre144k> hi all
[11:29] <andre144k> how define follow rules in crontab:  1.   each 5minutes between 6am and 7pm do /root/foobar.sh       2. each 15 minutes between 7pm and 6am do /root/foobar.sh
[11:36] <andre144k> oki founded
[12:07] <ybaumy> moin. any ideas on how to run nginx and apache somehow both on port 443. i know this is normally not possible but maybe there is way or tool or something
[12:09] <ybaumy> hmm is it possible to use nginx with subdomain routing to different backends? like sub1.domain.com goes to localhost:444 and sub2.domain.com goes to localhost:445 ?
[12:09] <Fuchs> ybaumy: not on the same IP at least. Why would you want that? Just have one proxy the stuff meant for the other through, either can do that
[12:10] <ybaumy> ok yea i could get another pub ip too
[12:10] <ybaumy> and use that one explictily
[12:12] <ybaumy> ah ok but it is that easy
[12:12] <ybaumy> https://ryan.himmelwright.net/post/nginx-subdomain-reverse-proxy/
[12:29] <sarashina> TJ-: Hello, I bought a Linux-supported USB RJ45 network interface, then install Ubuntu 19.04 again with Internet connection, now nVidia driver + SecureBoot works (And graphic card won't hang shutdown/reboot anymore).
[12:30] <TJ-> sarashina: glad to hear that
[12:30] <sarashina> TJ-: Then build this https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce , and Wifi works now. Thanks a lot!
[12:31] <TJ-> sarashina: :)
[12:31] <sarashina> Oh yeah thanks again!
[12:53] <githano> hi all
[12:54] <githano> anyone can help me with thrustmaster joys in ubuntu ?
[13:15] <mike_papa> Hello, I've installed snap 'nano' in Ubuntu Core 18. It had no permission to access any file. I connected it to nano:home, and now I can read file, but cannot write ("file is unwritable" error at the bottom, and "Permission denied" while trying to write). How do I give snap permission to write?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> mike_papa: if you have software-centre, you can tweak options of snaps there
[13:19] <mike_papa> lotuspsychje, not in the Ubuntu Core. It's stripped down to bare system core, and just few things to keep it running in network. That's where "core" name comes from.
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> mike_papa: allright, not sure myself howto change those in cli
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> mike_papa: alternate, with: snap info foo, you can find the snap maintainer in 'contact'
[13:21] <mike_papa> I'm not even able to install it with --classic flag: "Warning: flag --classic ignored for strictly confined snap nano"
[13:25] <mike_papa> Ok... so nano:home connection allows me to read in ~/ and subdirectories, but write in ~/ only, and not in it's subdirectories. No permission to read/write in other folders. :/
[13:26] <mIk3_08> sarashina, I have USB RJ45 network interface and it automatically work during installation of ubuntu without any driver installed. But I notice that I only got very low net speed when using it. thus your USB RJ45 network interface driver runs in my USB RJ45 network interface device, will that be possible?
[13:26] <mIk3_08> sarashina, I have USB RJ45 network interface and it automatically work during installation of ubuntu without any driver installed. But I notice that I only got very low net speed when using it. thus your USB RJ45 network interface driver runs in my USB RJ45 network interface device, will that be possible?
[13:26] <mike_papa> lotuspsychje, I did use 'conect nano:home' which gave me r access to ~/ and subfolders, and w access to ~/ only. No access to anything else.
[13:28] <sarashina>  mIk3_08: No. I bought the one which says it can supported by Linux kernel > 4.15.
[13:31] <mIk3_08> sarashina: ah.... I see... so, you don't any driver to be install in your system... Thanks a lot. how was your net speed thu?
[13:33] <mike_papa> Ok. Got it. I had to install it in dev mode by 'snap install --devmode nano'
[13:43] <qwertrtuttu> pulseaudio-equalizer can work in ubuntu-mate?  i insstalled through synaptic pulseaudio-equalizer, no ico: '/bin/qpaeq' There was an error connecting to pulseaudio, please make sure you have the pulseaudio dbus module loaded, exiting... What to do with this, or other equalizer for 19.10? /bin/qpaeq when start = There was ...
[13:44] <cfhowlett> 19.10 isn't supported yet as it's still in development
[13:44] <qwertrtuttu>  pulseaudio-equalizer can work in ubuntu-mate 19.04?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | qwertrtuttu
[13:45] <qwertrtuttu> i say this in irc channel ubuntu-mate.
[13:47] <mike_papa> Which snap do you recommend for python3? I can see two with 3.6.4 version. By arun and jamesh.
[13:48] <mike_papa> 3.7 not available at all :(
[14:18] <epizefiri89> hallo there
[14:19] <marcoagpinto> guys?! What is it with this messages "blah blah is ready"?
[14:19] <epizefiri89> i'm using ubuntu budgie and i would like to have nautilus as file manager AND desktop icons. I installed nautilus and I set it as default file manager.. but i don't have the icons on the desktop. How to set that?
[14:19] <marcoagpinto> :)
[14:36] <leftyfb> marcoagpinto: you'll need to provide more context
[14:37] <marcoagpinto> leftyfb: well, I opened a program and it said it was ready
[14:38] <marcoagpinto> also, when I copy files from a folder to other or so it says it is ready
[14:38] <leftyfb> marcoagpinto: what program? Where are you seeing this exactly? got a pastebin or a screenshot?
[14:38] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaa
[14:38] <marcoagpinto> I have turned off the other computer
[14:38] <marcoagpinto> tomorrow I will do a print screen
[14:38] <marcoagpinto> :)
[14:39] <marcoagpinto> because it is annoying "blah blah is ready"
[14:39] <leftyfb> !enter | marcoagpinto
[14:40] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh... yes... I know... sorry... I am just a little demon
[14:45] <sgt_chuckles> How do I make categories for apps in the GNOME app drawer the same way apps such as  "Utilities" and "Office" are?
[14:50] <leftyfb> sgt_chuckles: try menulibre
[14:51] <sgt_chuckles> leftyfb: thanks
[15:06] <harusuarez> Hello!!
[15:08] <harusuarez> Why is using Ubuntu 14.04.6?
[15:08] <harusuarez> I am using that
[15:10] <nfakhir> harusuarez: what do you mean ?
[15:10] <harusuarez> mmm. I saying the version of Ubuntu i using
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> harusuarez: 14.04 is end of life, not supported anymore
[15:10] <harusuarez> sorry nfakhir
[15:11] <harusuarez> mm. Yes. That is correct
[15:12] <nfakhir> Whats your question ?
[15:14] <harusuarez> Ok, i enter now
[15:15] <harusuarez> ok. I use Ubuntu 14.04.6 because that is low space required
[15:15] <harusuarez> also else?
[15:16] <transhumanist> hi! How do I tell the difference between packages required to build a piece of software (in this case cuda/opencv/darknet/darkflow) and packages required to run this group of software. I know after a compile is complete I can safely delete *dev packages but I am sure this is not fully encompassing. Is there a way to tell? trial and error is a painful process
[15:16] <Sven_vB> hi! I wrote an ISO to a USB flash drive that was larger, so gparted recommended I move the backup GPT to the end of the disk. it also warned the backup GPT is broken and I might want to overwrite it with the primary GPT. I chose "fix" for both. the position issue seems to be gone, but still, whenever I open the disk in gparted or gdisk, I get the warning about a corrupt GPT. I even created a new empty GPT with gdisk, wrote it and still
[15:16] <Sven_vB> get the warning. any ideas?
[15:17] <transhumanist> this is inside a docker container
[15:17] <Forty-3> is there a standard way to modify a file tracked by dpkg such that edits are preserved across updates?
[15:18] <sgt_chuckles> I have this issue after I uninstalled and re-installed my Nvidia driver, where my system would freeze momentarily (about 5 secs) whenever opening windows or menus.
[15:18] <sgt_chuckles> sometimes longer. Does anyone else have this issue when updating/reinstalling the nvidia driver?
[15:18] <harusuarez> mmm. Ok. Ubuntu also can burned in CD/DVD / USB
[15:18] <harusuarez> and... Can protect the user with a usb
[15:18] <EriC^^> Sven_vB: try to dd the start and end of the disk then gdisk a new partition table
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> harusuarez: who are you talking to?
[15:18] <harusuarez> for example. pamUSB
[15:19] <harusuarez> I use a USB to protect my laptop
[15:19] <Sven_vB> EriC^^, how many KB at the end should I erase?
[15:19] <EriC^^> Sven_vB: erase like 10M at the start 10M at the end, why not
[15:19] <Sven_vB> ok
[15:20] <harusuarez> Right now. That channel is safe, i don't like toxic peoples
[15:20] <harusuarez> ... Two hardran3?
[15:26] <harusuarez> Ok
[15:26] <harusuarez> I am inside again
[15:41] <eelstrebor> is there  something i can do to place an indicator on the app icon in the dashboard to indicate that the app is running? especially when an app isn't visible because another launched app is hiding it? just a convenience kind of thing
[15:41] <Sven_vB> looks like the last few sectors of my USB disk are a null device for writing and /dev/zero for reading.
[15:42] <Sven_vB> I'll check which is the last sector that retains data and then try and resize it.
[15:52] <Sven_vB> just tested with a quality drive, no problem there. I'll deal with the cheap one some other day.
[15:58] <qwertrtuttu> for ubuntu have other equalizer except  pulseaudio-equalizer?
[16:02] <mojikun> hello. is the casper live system ubuntu specific? or can i use it to add persistence to my non ubuntu live system as well?
[16:07] <leftyfb> mojikun: casper is not ubuntu-specific
[16:07] <harusuarez> casper is a ubuntu module .. :)
[16:08] <leftyfb> harusuarez: no, it's not.
[16:09] <harusuarez> mmm. why?
[16:09] <leftyfb> harusuarez: what do you need help with?
[16:10] <mojikun> leftyfb, it needs a system using the same initramfs tools from what i understande
[16:10] <harusuarez> ... I am trying help to otherp peoples leftyfb
[16:10] <mojikun> for example wont work in fedora which uses dracut to make initramfs
[16:11] <leftyfb> mojikun: you'll need to seek support from your other distro.
[16:11] <harusuarez> ubuntu is a global community
[16:11] <mojikun> leftyfb, you are the tool makers
[16:11] <DevAntoine> Hi
[16:11] <marcoagpinto> leftyfb: https://i.imgur.com/VJL1Oe9.png
[16:11] <DevAntoine> In my fstab I've got the following line: /home/vagrant/dartagnan/composer/vendor /vagrant/dartagnan-api/vendor/ none bind 0 0
[16:11] <marcoagpinto> I turned on the laptop just to printscreen
[16:11] <mojikun> so i think the question is accurate. on the use of this tool and where it applies
[16:11] <harusuarez> Yes mojikun Fedora IRC, not Ubuntu IRC, try to connect to that
[16:11] <DevAntoine> If I do "sudo mount -a" the bind mount doesn't work.
[16:11] <harusuarez> Hi DevAntonie
[16:11] <DevAntoine> If I redo "mount --bind /foo /bar" it works.
[16:12] <DevAntoine> What am I missing?
[16:12] <mojikun> harusuarez, yeah and go ask them about a tool they didnt make, casper. good idea. also fedora was an example
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[16:12] <leftyfb> mojikun: Sorry, but we can only support Ubuntu here
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> please stick to ubuntu support questions here
[16:13] <marcoagpinto> it is annoying these "blah blah is ready" messages
[16:13] <leftyfb> mojikun: we cannot support using Ubuntu packages on other distros
[16:13] <marcoagpinto> :((((((((
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: focus on questions only and patient please
[16:13] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: sorry
[16:14] <qwertrtuttu> humor: creative help me, give me equalizer for audio for ubuntu-mate.
[16:15] <TJ-> DevAntoine: does the entry (in fstab) depend on some other mount(s) being ready first? Ordering may be an issue
[16:15] <leftyfb> marcoagpinto: https://superuser.com/questions/644850/disable-window-is-ready-notification-in-gnome-shell
[16:16] <marcoagpinto> leftyfb: ohhhhh.... it can be disabled?
[16:16] <marcoagpinto> :)
[16:17] <DevAntoine> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/devantoine/2e26373ec7b695c2f23d77f57c013ba7
[16:18] <pa> hi
[16:18] <pa> qmake -v says qt4
[16:18] <pa> how can i switch to qt5 qmake by default?
[16:19] <pa> i mean it says Using Qt version 4.8.7 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[16:22] <TJ-> DevAntoine: you're missing the "auto" option. That is included with a "defaults" but you've only got "bind" there, so you want "defaults,bind" or "auto,bind" - check "man fstab" for what 'default' includes
[16:23] <marcoagpinto> thanks
[16:25] <DevAntoine> hum, adding "defaults,bind" doesn't work either after trying to remount everything :/
[16:25] <DevAntoine> Anyone, got to go to a kafka conference, I'll have a look at it tomorrow.
[16:25] <Sven_vB> any idea how I could mount the 3rd partition of the Super GRUB disk? "sudo file --special-files /dev/sdc3" says "/dev/sdc3: Macintosh HFS Extended version 4 data", gparted shows file system "hfs+", but "hpmount: /dev/sdc3: This is not a HFS+ volume (Unknown error -1)" and "hmount: /dev/sdc3: not a Macintosh HFS volume (Invalid argument)"
[16:28] <srji> i am having a serious wifi issue, it seems the firmware keeps `disturbing` the kernel? it happends when i am trying to set the laptop to suspend mode. https://gitlab.com/snippets/1865912
[16:29] <srji> im not experienced in reading logfiles
[16:29] <srji> it seems to the kernel is trying to wake up the device, and then trying to suspend it again?
[16:30] <srji> it is already the newest firmware installed
[16:31] <srji> it only stops when i restart the device
[16:31] <longus_catus> srji: Can you upgrade the firmware on your wifi card?
[16:32] <srji> i already did
[16:32] <srji> the newest firmware is installed
[16:33] <Sven_vB> srji, what are the symptoms that make the issue a problem? does it block you machine from entering standby?
[16:33] <TJ-> srji: ACPI issuw; try this: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[16:34] <ZeZu> anyone on disco want to test something real quick?  I'm thinking it's a glibc bug
[16:34] <marcoagpinto> leftyfb: Buaaaaaaaa.... I read the whole comments and it says zero... it seems I have to install an extension of some kind... should I open a enhancement request in LaunchPad to allow to remove that message?
[16:35] <ZeZu> ifso: https://wandbox.org/permlink/qblNZgnbSifs6gvU
[16:35] <leftyfb> marcoagpinto: there's an extension you can use, or manual editing of a file or gnome-tweak. All of which are explained in the post I gae you. That is the opposite of "says zero"
[16:35] <ZeZu> build w. -std=c++17 and pass it a file, it segfaults
[16:36] <marcoagpinto> well, after I read the comments, the information was zero
[16:36] <marcoagpinto> :)
[16:36] <marcoagpinto> lol
[16:36] <marcoagpinto> I didn't understand anything
[16:37] <Sven_vB> wow. that acpi_osi discrimination reeks of anti-trust.
[16:37] <marcoagpinto> but I am Windows guy, isn't it? :)
[16:37] <marcoagpinto> I am a*
[16:37] <srji> Sven_vB: correct. it blocks the device from entering in suspend mode
[16:40] <Sven_vB> srji, in case fixing the ACPI won't work (easily), you could also try disabling the internal antenna and plugging a USB antenna. if that one blocks standby as well, you can just unplug it before.
[16:41] <ZeZu> idk where to report, gnu.org || ubuntu :  maybe not that many things use C++17 filesystem but it's pretty serious if everything using this function will crash
[16:41] <Sven_vB> that was my workaround for when I had ath9k problems :)
[16:47] <srji> Sven_vB: i will try to understand the acpi thing, and fix it
[16:47] <srji> ty
[16:50] <Sven_vB> ZeZu, I can't get that site to work in my browser. do you have a plain text link, gist or sth.?
[16:51] <ZeZu> sure
[16:51] <ZeZu> https://pastebin.com/e0gtvBeF
[16:51] <ZeZu> I don't want to paste as it's like 8+ lines, and it's already on pastebin
[16:53] <Sven_vB> thanks
[16:55] <transhumanist> how do I tell apt install to use a repository as a last resort only?
[16:56] <Sven_vB> ZeZu, ok so your bug is that on Disco Dingo, building this source http://web.archive.org/web/20190612165347if_/https://pastebin.com/raw/e0gtvBeF with gcc -std=c++17 causes a segfault?
[16:56] <ZeZu> running the application by passing it a filename causes a segfault
[16:56] <ZeZu> more specifically:  std::filesystem::exists() segfaults
[16:56] <Sven_vB> does it work for other filesystem functions?
[16:57] <ZeZu> I didn't check,  i only went with the first issue and tried to debug it
[16:57] <ZeZu> found same behaviour on every compiler: indicating it's the libc(++)
[16:58] <Sven_vB> does it segfault even if the binary is in / and you make it test for it's own existence? (to avoid any file system issues like FUSE stuff)
[16:58] <Sven_vB> in that case, have you tried with an older libc?
[16:59] <ZeZu> It segfaults no matter what you pass it,  as long as there is a param
[16:59] <ZeZu> no i have not,  how is that done ?
[16:59] <ZeZu> ( IE: I forget if there are other dev versions of libc on the repo,  i know all the bins will be built with the current one )
[16:59] <Sven_vB> can you try make it print the filename before it tries to check exists? to make sure it's not a string conversion problem
[17:00] <ZeZu> already did,  I only made the demo this way to keep it simple
[17:00] <Sven_vB> as for how to test with an older libc, someone else please help.
[17:02] <ZeZu> I mean i know _how_ I just have no real desire to rebuild glibc,  and I know it's worked in the past.  There has been C++17 support for a while now :)
[17:03] <ZeZu> I guess the question is whether it's specific to ubuntu on this version
[17:04] <lordcirth> transhumanist, why do you need that?
[17:04] <adamitsch> My computer froze and since then doesnt work with nvidia drivers anymore, only with  nouveau. Is my gpu faulty?
[17:05] <adamitsch> tried reinstalling different drivers, but no luck
[17:05] <ZeZu> prob not if it works w. nouveau
[17:05] <ZeZu> try installing a different driver version if you want to use nvidia
[17:05] <ZeZu> purge your current nvidia driver version completely, and reinstall another version
[17:06] <adamitsch> But also in windows it boots with small resolution and with warning sign in device manager
[17:06] <adamitsch> With nvidia drivers it doesnt boot, i am just getting many xid errors in dmesg
[17:07] <ZeZu> then yes it is possible it's the hardware
[17:07] <ZeZu> you haven't changed any settings in bios ?
[17:07] <ZeZu> or added any other new hardware?
[17:08] <adamitsch> I had random freezes during playing games, but with the last freeze it got worse
[17:08] <TJ-> ZeZu: which library package is needed that contains the filesystem class? I was trying to test on 18.04 but don't have it
[17:09] <ZeZu> you just need to build w. -std=c++17
[17:09] <ZeZu> there is no other package needed
[17:09] <ZeZu> it's just hidden in another include dir path
[17:09] <TJ-> ZeZu: I am of course!
[17:10] <TJ-> I did a "apt-file search filesystem.h" and didn't spot any package obviously containing the header
[17:10] <ZeZu> o.O
[17:10] <ZeZu> what version is set as your default (cc) ?
[17:10] <TJ-> 7.4
[17:10] <ZeZu> This is a fresh disco install w. 'build-essential'
[17:11] <ZeZu> so gcc 8.30
[17:11] <TJ-> ZeZu: ahhh!, does it need 8 ?
[17:11] <ZeZu> possibly
[17:11] <ZeZu> someone just told me this works w. gcc-9 , which is very confusing
[17:11] <ZeZu> since it would use the same glibc
[17:17] <ZeZu> ok
[17:18] <ZeZu> g++-9 does indeed work,  and it has an updated libstdc++-9-dev with it
[17:18] <ZeZu> definitely a bug
[17:20] <TJ-> ZeZu: check the changelog it may mention it
[17:20] <jack> wow wtf...is gcc at v9 now?
[17:20] <ZeZu> If it were known you'd think it would get a patch
[17:21] <ZeZu> broken libc is bad business
[17:25] <TJ-> ZeZu: hehehe fun here; I get a linker error
[17:25] <ZeZu> lol
[17:29] <TJ-> ahhh, needed to include the lib g++-8 -v -std=c++17 -o test test.cpp -lstdc++fs
[17:30] <TJ-> ZeZu: and it works!
[17:30] <TJ-> ZeZu: I'm on amd64; cannot make it fail
[17:36] <Oderus> hi. i just updated my system, and now afterward, (19.04 by the way) it wants to revert to an earlier version of a certain package. I had this package locked in muon, and when i try to unlock it, it acts like it unlocked it but really it did not. What do I do?
[17:37] <ZeZu> TJ-, did you build your system ?
[17:37] <ZeZu> I have two other people telling me it fails
[17:40] <Oderus> i will simplify.. how do I unlock a package in muon that I have previously locked? When I try to unlock it, it doesn't work?
[17:41] <ZeZu> TJ-, and you are passing it a file?  ( the output should be 'file exists' if so)
[17:43] <pragmaticenigma> Oderus: Are you sure that the package was originally locked to begin with?
[17:45] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: yes. I had locked it because the updated version had a bug. Now there is a newer update, but I cannot unlock the package in order to update it. I tried installing the newer version with apt and it did install, but immediately after running apt get update && apt get full-upgrade, it wanted to downgrade it back.
[17:46] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: the package in question is libkf5globalaccelprivate5
[17:52] <pragmaticenigma> Oderus: is there an entry in /etc/apt/preferences folder?
[17:54] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: there does appear to be some files, and one by the name of the package in question, in /etc/apt/preferences.d/
[17:55] <Sven_vB> is muon good? I heard they decay quickly ;)
[17:55] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: however, the file is 0 bytes
[17:55] <pragmaticenigma> Oderus: if you remove the file (or ideally move it out of that directory) the run "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" the package should upgrade
[17:57] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: thank you, this did the trick. can I now safely delete the moved file?
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> Yes, the fact the file was empty is strange. That file normally would have the package name, the desired pinned version in it
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> Oderus: https://serverfault.com/a/435416 is where I found the answer
[18:00] <Forty-3> how can I preserve edits to a file tracked by dpkg across updates
[18:01] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: thank you so much. I did search around for how to remove hold on a package, and did do that with apt-mark unmark, but I didnt come across this answer. much appreciated.
[18:02] <pragmaticenigma> Oderus: I had to think a little out of the box in my search... mainly, I opted for "ubuntu lock package version" and that was one of the results with a command line solution
[18:03] <Forty-3> looks like dpkg-divert does what I want
[18:04] <Oderus> pragmaticenigma: you definately thought outside of the box, it did not occur to me at all heh
[18:04] <TJ-> ZeZu: standard 18.04 amd64, program works fine
[18:14] <TJ-> ZeZu: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2RGPGCcfqm/
[18:15] <mia> Hey channel - how can I install the latest version of gnome on ubuntu 18.04 stable?
[18:16] <TJ-> mia: you want to make it unstable?
[18:16] <TJ-> mia: if you want the latest version you need to use a rolling-release distro, or try Ubuntu 19.04
[18:17] <mia> TJ-, I don't care much at all - I just want to test it as an addition to my current stable gnome shell
[18:17] <mia> Hm, should I / can I update my 18.04 to that
[18:17] <TJ-> mia: not without doing a custom build of Gnome, no
[18:30] <ZeZu> `-lstdc++fs`
[18:32] <ZeZu> I did not know that was a thing | required in any way ..
[18:33] <ZeZu> if they are going to make a completely separate lib,  to something that links in automatically as part of the language : there should be a big flashing neon sign somewhere imo
[18:33] <ZeZu> I get no link error,  just a segfault if i don't use it
[18:33] <ZeZu> so imo it's still a bug :P
[18:33] <ghutzriop> I have a broken ubuntu 1804 in virtualbox on windows. It is set to auto login an only shows a purple screen with nothing on it. how can I switch to a tty?
[18:33] <ZeZu> depending on how you want to look at it
[18:34] <ZeZu> ctrl + alt + f1
[18:34] <ZeZu> or maybe it's just ctrl+f1 i forget
[18:35] <ghutzriop> it should be ctrl+alt+f*, but it doesn't do a thing
[18:36] <ZeZu> weird,  some of them work here
[18:36] <mmystic> Hi, I'd like a more hardened chromium apparmor profile. Anyone know if are there such kind of things already done ?
[18:36] <mmystic> for example, the default chromium profile leave the home dir opened to chrome ... and also it can access to /bin/ps
[18:37] <mmystic> I don't want such kind of things
[18:37] <sarnold> mmystic: while many users have significantly tighter profiles, I don't think any are distributed in any formal way
[18:38] <mmystic> then I have to manually edit the existing one ?
[18:39] <ZeZu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1821920
[18:39] <sarnold> mmystic: I believe you could also write one with the tighter rules that you'd like, and *stack* the profiles together, to get the intersection of the two, but if some silly program launches chromium-browser directly, it'd probably not get the stacking..
[18:41] <mmystic> sarnold: nice idea
[18:42] <mmystic> I'll try
[18:42] <mmystic> thanks
[18:43] <sarnold> mmystic: here we are.. give this a skim https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/wikis/AppArmorStacking
[18:47] <TJ-> ZeZu: when you built did you use the -v (verbose) flag - that warns of missing symbols, which clues you in the librariary is required
[18:47] <ZeZu> prob not,  how would it link though?
[18:48] <ZeZu> just doesn't make sense there
[18:48] <ZeZu> so still the logic holds that it's broken
[18:49] <TJ-> ZeZu: here, without linking the library: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SB2Djr2qTX/
[18:50] <TJ-> ZeZu: you're using the Filesystem *library* hence you have to link it in!
[18:50] <ZeZu> it's part of libc++ !
[18:51] <ZeZu> it is standard C++ as of `17
[18:51] <ZeZu> there are no pieces to the c++ std lib
[18:51] <TJ-> ZeZu: no, it's part of the standard BUT requires linking, see end of https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/filesystem
[18:51] <ZeZu> AND i do not get those errors at link time
[18:51] <TJ-> ZeZu: see Notes
[18:52] <ZeZu> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mMkR4ZXZWk/
[18:52] <ZeZu> no error
[18:52] <ZeZu> builds and doesn't work
[18:52] <ZeZu> not even a warning
[18:52] <ZeZu> so that just doesn't hold true
[18:52] <ZeZu> if it wasn't in the lib, it wouldn't link
[18:53] <ZeZu> it's in and doesn't work
[18:53] <ZeZu> further proof is that it works fine in newer versions
[18:53] <ZeZu> and works fine on windows, and works fine on bsd
[18:57] <TJ-> ZeZu: have you checked the symbols in the binary?
[18:57] <ZeZu> via what ldd ?
[18:57] <ZeZu> readelf?
[18:57] <ZeZu> i'm sure they are there,  what is to check exactly ?
[18:57] <TJ-> ZeZu: objdump or whatever, for linked-in symbols
[18:57] <TJ-> ZeZu: also, is it possible you've got the original Boost filesystem libraries installed?
[18:57] <ZeZu> yep they are there and fine
[18:58] <ZeZu> boost would have to be included in and has different headers
[18:58] <ZeZu> so no
[18:58] <ZeZu> this is just the test,  what you see is what you get
[18:58] <TJ-> ZeZu: well, not sure then, but I've shown on 18.04 and having to add g++ 8 for this (so no other artifacts existing) it builds fine with the library specified
[19:00] <Patrezze> Hi.
[19:01] <pragmaticenigma> Hello Patrezze
[19:07] <ZeZu> TJ-, that tells me that your packages are not the same,  as this is on 19.04 and act differently
[19:08] <ZeZu> if there was a link error,  at least someone would have to go hunt the problem down why it wouldn't link in and after much searching maybe find that there is a separate libstdc++
[19:08] <ZeZu> as it is now,  anyone who builds a C++ source that uses this,  it links then just crashes
[19:08] <ZeZu> (upon running) : with no explanation
[19:09] <TJ-> ZeZu: I've got a 19.04 here, I'll test it
[19:12] <Patrezze> TJ-: Hi, the problem abount ethernet card persists. I do this and its not work -> <TJ-> Patrezze: well, you can turn it off manually and see if that helps, but not sure if you can do that from boot-time easily. E.g. "ethtool --offload enp4s0 gro off"
[19:12] <Patrezze> Remember?
[19:13] <TJ-> ZeZu: 19.04, see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3kvrKPm5bt/
[19:14] <TJ-> Patrezze: vaguely yes; I wondered if the issue were GRO
[19:14] <ZeZu> TJ-, that's very odd,  considering two other people have confirmed it.  Maybe you have a diff version of gcc set as default ?
[19:14] <ZeZu> 'g++ (Ubuntu 8.3.0-6ubuntu1) 8.3.0
[19:14] <ZeZu> '
[19:15] <Budgii> is there a way to clone my system so I can put it on a VM instead?
[19:16]  * ZeZu shrugs,  the full project is using CMAKE and i'm not about to add a ton of logic to check version #'s and see if i need to use some branch of a specific libstdc++ on a specific distro because it is buggy
[19:17] <ZeZu> I'll add a subnote somewhere:  if you try to build in ubuntu it'll prob crash, link manually w. -lstdc++fs
[19:20] <TJ-> ZeZu: which g++ version were you using that failed? 9?
[19:20] <ZeZu> g++ (Ubuntu 8.3.0-6ubuntu1) 8.3.0
[19:20] <TJ-> so same one
[19:20] <ZeZu> 9 works fine (w.o -lstdc++fs)
[19:21] <ZeZu> so i'm just switching to it I guess,  I want clang to link by default to that version of libstdc++ tho ; grr
[19:21] <ZeZu> or it's own libc++
[19:32] <mia> Hey channel
[19:32] <Budgii> hi mi
[19:32] <mia> I've installed elementary os desktop - pantheon - just to test on my ubuntu installation but it somehow messed up my gnome settings
[19:32] <mia> How can I restore my gnome settings --- or fix it
[19:32] <mia> I was already using vanilla gnome session
[19:32] <mia> so I don't think I need to fix the ubuntu-packed gnome
[19:33] <Patrezze> TJ-: the issue where unplug/plug cable to active interface. When reboot the system, does not work until unplug/plug again.
[19:37] <gvvg_> Hi - I'm trying to figure out what is triggering the RDNS_NONE=4 from these headers
[19:37] <gvvg_> https://pastebin.com/qUwkFgg7
[19:39] <tomreyn> a spamassassin rule
[19:41] <gvvg_> yes
[19:41] <gvvg_> but I've tried reverse dns lookups for all the servers and they all have reverse dns setup
[19:42] <tomreyn> then your #ubuntu-server (hint!) is not configured to do RDNS lookups properly
[19:50] <gvvg_> oh where should I look at
[19:50] <mia> Hey all
[19:50] <mia> there was a command to select a gtk css file
[19:50] <mia> I think I somehow broke my default gnome theme, what was the command to fix that?
[20:11] <mia> I was using vanilla gnome on ubuntu, and today I wanted to test elementary-desktop, didn't like i,t, uninstalled it -- but now my gnome settings are all messed up.  I did "sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-shell" that didn't fix the problems. Specifically themes/fonts and certain behavior are broken. I also can't enable tray icons any more with any extensions. So I need to fix it --- any help is much appreciated
[20:12] <sarnold> probably removing files or directories in ~/.config/ that look related to gnome or gtk or cairo or fonts etc would be a good start
[20:18] <mia> sarnold, didn't help --- I've deleted pretty much every file under .config, that's modified today
[20:18] <mia> What else can this be?
[20:18] <mia> is there any way to make a clean install of gnome-shell somehow
[20:18] <mia> (gnome-session?)
[20:19] <sarnold> mia: don't look at directory modification times, those don't get updated when files get updated
[20:20] <mia> sarnold, ah I see
[20:20] <escimo> Anyone know why nginx is only on 1.14 (18.04 LTS)?
[20:21] <sarnold> escimo: 1.14 was the newest stable release from nginx when 18.04 was released
[20:22] <escimo> Should be updated even so, right?
[20:23] <leftyfb> !latest | escimo
[20:24] <sarnold> escimo: no; ubuntu's not a rolling release, we almost never bring in new versions from upstream. firefox and chromium-browser are obvious counter-examples, but nearly everything else gets only bugfixes after release
[20:25] <escimo> So would manually need to update openssl as well, in order to support TLS 1.3
[20:25] <sarnold> escimo: we released a new openssl 1.1.1 yesterday for that
[20:26] <sarnold> (it's been a very painful reminder why we don't do new versions)
[20:26] <hggdh> and still giving more reminders, methinks
[20:27] <sarnold> yes
[20:27] <sarnold> escimo: this describes some of the work in the openssl 1.1.1 in bionic process https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1797386
[20:29] <swills> i was about to ask about an openssl issue, lol
[20:30] <swills> where can i find the list of versions and release dates for a given package, openssl in this case?
[20:30] <stavros> Hello
[20:31] <sarnold> swills: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+publishinghistory
[20:31] <escimo> Well, I will have to check if I am affected by the bugs. I need TLS 1.3 - All the software running on the server supports TLS 1.3, so shouldn't be an issue
[20:31] <swills> thanks
[20:31] <swills> asking google these things seems impossible, lol
[20:31] <escimo> And thanks for getting support for it 👍
[20:31] <sarnold> swills: from the 'main' openssl package page, the 'view full publishing history' link in upper right gets you that page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl
[20:32] <sarnold> escimo: indeed, many people wanted tls 1.3 :) it's a wonderful change from previous tls version rollouts that took years :(
[20:32] <swills> thanks
[20:32] <stavros> I have a Bluetooth headset but the HSP profile has very low quality. With the A2DP profile, the microphone doesn't work. How can I have both, like with my mobile?
[20:32] <swills> so all bionic was moved from openssl 1.1.0 to 1.1.1, am i understanding right?
[20:33] <swills> i really wish i could filter that publishing history page by os release
[20:34] <sarnold> swills: hold on, I think that's possible too
[20:34] <raijin> so how do you build a kernel on 18.04? the wiki is telling me to editconfigs but fakeroot is saying there's no such
[20:35] <sarnold> swills: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libssl1.1
[20:36] <sarnold> swills: it's on binary packages rather than source packages
[20:37] <swills> sarnold: thanks. bit hard to find, but maybe it's because i'm new to di
[20:37] <swills> and i'm kinda confused by the data still, but working through it
[20:38] <sarnold> swills: I've been here over six years and found this page like a month ago. and I have no idea how to *navigate* to this page, I just have this pattern stored in a wikipage: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/<rel>/<arch>/<binary>
[20:38] <swills> i'm glad we agree on the difficulty of finding the info, i guess? :)
[20:38] <swills> am i right in understanding that 1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.1 came out and then was quickly replaced by 1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.2 like a day later?
[20:41] <raijin> Hi mouses
[20:41] <raijin> mouses: ever build a kernel in ubuntu?
[20:41] <raijin> this is why I run arch
[20:41] <swills> sarnold: ^
[20:41] <mouses> raijin: yes
[20:41] <sarnold> swills: the .2 version is apparently still in -proposed
[20:41] <swills> sarnold: i see, thanks
[20:42] <swills>           2019-06-12 17:28:22 UTC     Published             Ubuntu Bionic amd64          proposed     main     libs            Important                        1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.2
[20:42] <swills> makes me think .2 was published?
[20:42] <raijin> mouses: the wiki has me stuck at fakeroot 'debian/rules editconfigs' which doesn't seem to work on 18.04
[20:42] <sarnold> 'published' to the proposed pocket in this case
[20:42] <swills> i see
[20:42] <mouses> raijin: it's been many years since i've done that on a ubuntu system, so I won't be much help
[20:42] <swills> what's a pocket?
[20:42] <swills> besides where you keep your wocket
[20:42] <raijin> mouses: oh ok, thanks for the answer anyway
[20:44] <swills> i have "things" that are breaking with the new openssl
[20:45] <swills> can i perhaps lock the package during my preseed, then upgrade everything else?
[20:46] <mia> okay I've created this if anyone wants to help. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56570114/gnome-settins-are-messed-up-after-installation-of-elementary-desktop
[20:46] <sarnold> swills: updates, security, proposed are pockets
[21:04] <gt8ost4l> does anybody here know how to open /etc/default/grub with gedit on ubuntu 19.04
[21:04] <leftyfb> gt8ost4l: what did you try?
[21:04] <gt8ost4l> gedit admin:///
[21:06] <jeremy31> gt8ost4l: gedit admin:///etc/default/grub should work
[21:06] <jeremy31> gt8ost4l: or do> sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[21:07] <gt8ost4l> jeremy31: i dont like nano its to cluttered
[21:07] <Jonopoly> So i've got an SSD and HDD
[21:08] <Jonopoly> If i dualboot linux would it be on HDD?
[21:08] <leftyfb> Jonopoly: it depends on what drive you install ubuntu to
[21:08] <CoffeeCattle> Gnome MPV's documentation says you can change the input file in the preferences. The preferences no longer seem to exist in the latest ubuntu. Does this mean the input also can no longer be customised?
[21:08] <Jonopoly> leftyfb: Oh so i could ideally just partition 250GB on my HDD
[21:09] <Jonopoly> leftyfb: and just install it on there
[21:09] <leftyfb> Jonopoly: sure? Though, you really should provide more context
[21:10] <Jonopoly> leftyfb: Okay, so i've got a gaming laptop (250gb ssd, 1tb HDD 8gb Ram) I want to dual boot linux as i mostly use linux but i want windows too so my son can play some games and maybe VR
[21:10] <leftyfb> Jonopoly: ok?
[21:13] <jeremy31> gt8ost4l: you could always use pkexec, see http://www.webupd8.org/2015/03/how-to-run-gedit-and-nautilus-as-root.html
[21:13] <rud0lf> there's /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver-418/index.html .. how should i open it properly? just paste filename into browser?
[21:14] <Jonopoly> leftyfb: Uh more context? So i think i should install ubuntu onto the 1tb ...?
[21:14] <leftyfb> Jonopoly: technically you can install Ubuntu to either one. It's your choice
[21:16] <qwebirc95665> if i check the status of a systemctl service and get a (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) on a line, does that mean it crashed at this line of code? Would that mean my server crashes on ExecStop even i tried the start command?
[21:21] <Sven_vB> is there a kernel command line option to disable AHCI and use something older instead?
[21:23] <jack> probably something in the sourcecode...
[21:25] <gallomimia> i.... isn't that a motherboard option? bios
[21:26] <gallomimia> Jonopoly, how is your endeavor going? i'm going to do the same. my ssd got swapped out... it's a 500gig and i partitioned it
[21:26] <gallomimia> having trouble moving the windows partition from the platter drive. i think i will fresh install it.
[21:32] <Sven_vB> So I read I can set satamd=ide in /etc/mount/conf.cfg but that's only for mounting stuff, right? My problem is that Samsung Magician (their SSD update tool) doesn't seem to detect AHCI mode disks.
[21:32] <Sven_vB> nope unfortunately my BIOS doesn't offer that option. would have been too easy.
[21:33] <jack> i'd say dig the kernelcode
[21:37] <gallomimia> which samsung drive are you planning to update?
[21:37] <gallomimia> i've also had problems with samsung and their lack of support for linux, evo840's with trim bug
[21:39] <Sven_vB> I don't remember the name exactly but it wasn't an evo. :)
[21:48] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I install the default kernel distributed with 18.04?
[21:48] <MrKeuner> livepatch fails with 4.18
[21:50] <MrKeuner> how can I find the meta package name
[21:50] <timClicks> MrKeuner: if you have an Ubuntu Advantage subscription, you should be able to access help via support.canonical.com
[21:50] <MrKeuner> timClicks, I don't think I have that
[21:51] <MrKeuner> But if my question is offtopic sorry for that
[21:52] <timClicks> MrKeuner: I don't think it's offtopic
[21:53] <artyx> Jonno_FTW: that funar delete took AGES ... still going
[21:53] <artyx> Incidentally, it also takes ages on ssd
[21:54] <TJ-> MrKeuner: we've been getting quite a few reports of livepatch failing recently
[21:55] <MrKeuner> TJ-, the FAQ page error points to states it would only work for 4.15
[21:55] <MrKeuner> I couldn't decide how to get back to the distribution suggested kernel version. Cannot figure out the meta package name to install
[21:55] <TJ-> MrKeuner: makes sense I suppose, if we theorise that livepatch is only been applied to LTS kernels, but I'd have thought HWE was supported to
[21:56] <MrKeuner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch#CommonIssues
[21:57] <TJ-> MrKeuner: the livepatch docs say only the GA kernels, so 4.15 and 4.4
[21:59] <TJ-> MrKeuner: to remove the HWE kernels you'd need to remove "linux-generic-hwe*" and then the actual linux-4.18.0* that depends on
[21:59] <mia> my tray icons are missing after elementary-desktop installation
[21:59] <mia> I uninstalled it from my ubuntu but they're still gone :(
[22:00] <mia> For hours I've been looking for a solution desperetaly, but, not able to find one.
[22:00] <mia> ANY ideas would worth a try at this point.
[22:00] <TJ-> MrKeuner: this'll show you what you want: " apt-cache depends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 "
[22:01] <signalsout> theres litterally nothing you can do.
[22:01] <TJ-> mia: create a new user and log-in as it, see if that is OK. If it is, the problem is in the user's $HOME/.config/ or $HOME/.local/ or $HOME/.cache/
[22:56] <nshire> has anyone used their ubuntu computer as a hotspot/ad hoc network?
[22:56] <nshire> all the guides I've read say they need to disconnect from the wifi first, but I want to share that wifi connection from my laptop but using my own ssid/password
[22:57] <nshire> ie: connect to a router with my laptop, then allow other devices to connect to the laptop which gets routed through the first connection
[22:58] <nshire> I have no problem doing it in windows, but afaik no one does it for ubuntu..
[22:58] <jeremy31> nshire dont use ad-hoc, adroid devices will ignore it.  I think the github project is called create_ap
[22:59] <jeremy31> nshire: https://github.com/oblique/create_ap
[22:59] <nshire> looks promising
[23:00] <nshire> all the examples only show bridging between wlan and ethernet, does it really work with just wifi?
[23:01] <jeremy31> nshire: It might not be really fast but it does work with just one wifi adapter
[23:02] <nshire> somehow I'm able to get at least a hundred mbit when I do it
[23:02] <nshire> at least in windows
[23:03] <jeremy31> nshire: I didn't use it a lot in Ubuntu, just enough to say that it does function
[23:03] <nshire> that should be fine then, thx
[23:09] <gallomimia> hey what is everyone's favorite method of monitoring temperatures and fanspeeds in ubuntu vanilla 19.04?
[23:09] <gallomimia> i have to get some of those going now
[23:09] <Bashing-om> gallomimia: What shows ' inxi -s ' ?
[23:10] <nshire> I used lm-sensors in ubuntu 18
[23:10] <gallomimia> me too
[23:10] <gallomimia> Bashing-om, it says not found, install it
[23:11] <gallomimia> lm-sensors was just a library iirc. not a method of displaying graphically
[23:12] <Bashing-om> gallomimia: Thought in 19.04 was installed by default .. the tool is well worth having .. shows mucho system info.
[23:12] <gallomimia> is it nice? all graphical and all?
[23:13] <gallomimia> dang. how do i make it install the suggested with it
[23:13] <sarnold> this is about all it does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MFc9C3j57N/
[23:13] <friendlyGoat> hello, im still having trouble with my splash screen unfortunately. i fixed everything else i was struggling with but i cant get my boot screen to be the xubuntu logo anymore, just the same rolling text.
[23:13] <friendlyGoat> also: whats the default values for printk? bit unrelated but i'd like to know
[23:13] <friendlyGoat> @ me when you respond so i can see easily
[23:20] <gallomimia> inxi is installed now. very limited number of readouts. will lm-sensors require a restart to get it all?
[23:42] <swills> sarnold: ping
[23:42] <swills> sarnold: is it possible the new openssl has this bug: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/7350
[23:43] <swills> or maybe someone can tell me how to check the exact source of a given package?
[23:44] <sarnold> swills: apt-get source openssl   should download the latest for your release of ubuntu
[23:45] <ryuo> sounds like an issue mainly for application developers. why does it matter to you?
[23:48] <sarnold> swills: could you file a bug for that, ubuntu-bug openssl, then paste in the details you're seeing?
[23:50] <swills> ryuo: because it's breaking my app
[23:50] <swills> sarnold: i'm trying to verify, one sec
[23:50] <swills> and thanks