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[10:44] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
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 @acheronuk yesterdays daily ISO installed fine.
 I let the installer do the work though.
 Good to know :)
[19:47] <ahayzen> acheronuk, hey, as the last uploader of plasma-discover, there was an accidental break of the ABI in the previous flatpak build in Eoan (1.4.0), this has since been fixed (1.4.1) but plasma-discover was uploaded while it was broken and is a rdepends of libflatpak0. Are you able to do a no change rebuild of plasma-discover in Eoan to resolve any issues ?
[20:30] <valorie> sitter: have you read https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2019/02/14/packagekit-is-dead-long-live-well-something-else/
[20:30] <valorie> I would love to know your thoughts about it re: pkcon use and Discover
[20:31] <wxl> gnome announcing something is dead while they seem to expect every gtk version to exist on the same system? madness
[20:31] <valorie> I find it a bit bizarre that they get it to a state of Just Working and then kick it to the curb
[20:31] <valorie> wxl: lol
[20:34] <wxl> seriously, have you read the "gtk 4.0 is not gtk 4" article? it's serious crazy making.
[20:35] <valorie> I've not
[20:35] <valorie> also I recall that sitter is off for the week
[20:37] <wxl> https://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2016/06/13/gtk-4-0-is-not-gtk-4/
[20:37] <valorie> I don't really keep up with gnomie stuff, but keithzg and I were discussing using pkcon
[20:38] <wxl> oh i don't really either, except that i like to watch how messed up it is so i can convince people to go to qt XD
[20:38] <valorie> crazy making enough that that article gave me a headache about 3 paras in
[20:38] <wxl> hah you didn't even get to the meat of it
[20:38] <valorie> so not reading the rest
[20:39] <valorie> "chaos reigns"
[20:39] <valorie> "situation normal; all ()&*(%* up"
[20:39] <valorie> did I get it?
[20:40] <valorie> "this is not the API you were looking for"
[20:40] <wxl> that one XD
[22:01] <keithzg> wxl: That "gtk 4.0 is not gtk 4" article is downright Lovecraftian, it's raw cosmic horror, I remember reading it back around when it was published and it being just more terror than a human mind can contain. Looking it back up right now I see https://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2016/06/14/gtk-5-0-is-not-gtk-5/ which almost might be worse since it's basically "everyone knows semantic versioning is useful and great for consistency, but what our development 
[22:01] <keithzg> process posits is: what if we ignored all that?"
[22:02] <wxl> keithzg: oh god it gets crazier