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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jun 13 15:03:51 2019 UTC.  The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
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juliank#topic Lightning rounds15:03
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juliankecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:04
juliankrbalint tdaitx juliank xnox bdmurray doko infinity waveform mwhudson cyphermox vorlon sil210015:04
juliankrbalint:15:04
juliankrbalint seems afk15:04
julianktdaitx:15:04
tdaitxrbalint: was out for food, I will go15:04
tdaitx* reviewed, merged, and uploaded 2 livecd-rootfs changes15:04
tdaitx* updated bugs and uploaded bionic/cosmic/disco -proposed fixes for tomcat8, netbeans, and scilab (LP: #1825604, LP: #1828427, LP: #1825037, LP: #1827090)15:04
tdaitx* investigating openjdk 8u222-b04 failure to build on armhf15:04
tdaitx  - got a hs_err_log from a ppa (for some reason the eoan build didn't output it)15:04
tdaitx  - our patches do not seem to be the cause15:04
tdaitx  - looking at upstream changes to the hotspot for possible causes15:04
tdaitx  - writing email to aarch32-port for some help on sorting this out15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825604 in netbeans (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Netbeans 10 should depend on java11-sdk" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182560415:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1828427 in netbeans (Debian) "[SRU] Netbeans fails to create a java project with NoSuchMethodError" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182842715:04
tdaitxOther:15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825037 in scilab (Ubuntu) "[SRU] scilab-cli and scilab-adv-cli does not start on bionic, cosmic, disco and eoan" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182503715:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1827090 in tomcat8 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] tomcat8-instance-create fails to update connector and control ports" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182709015:04
tdaitx- I can run again15:04
tdaitx(done)15:05
tdaitxjuliank: go!15:05
juliank * aptdaemon: fixed test suite and implemented frontend locking for bb, cc, dd, ee (LP: #1831981)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1831981 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Disco) "aptdaemon frontend locking, locking fixes" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183198115:05
juliank * verified LP: #175407515:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1754075 in apt-setup (Debian) "apt-setup uses apt-key but probably should not anymore" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175407515:05
juliank * checked that release upgrader can not be MITMed with meta release files anymore (re LP: #807259)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 807259 in update-manager (Ubuntu Eoan) "MetaRelease.download() Issue after Captive Portal" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80725915:05
juliank * apt hacking15:05
juliank * got yellow fever vaccination for debconf in brazil15:05
juliank(done)15:05
juliankxnox:15:05
xnox* OpenSSL SRU is out, and uploading regression fixes15:05
xnox* Fixing up apache2 adt tests15:05
xnox* Fixing up networking in initrd15:05
xnox  - fixing broken static ip from initrd to netplan15:05
xnox  - fixing broken dns in ipconfig15:05
xnox  - adding support for vlans15:05
xnox* Prepared s390-tools uploads opal->sipl signing rename15:05
xnox  - awaiting lp deployment to upload15:05
xnox* Registered for Debconf, All Systems Go15:05
xnox* Travel booked for Debconf, Toronto, All Systems Go15:05
xnox* Todo travel to Paris, trains are not bookable yet15:05
xnoxDone15:05
cyphermoxxnox: some trains may be bookable now, I booked some today15:06
bdmurraymerged MP from IS regarding cleaning up saved crash files more frequently15:06
juliankbdmurray: your turn!15:06
bdmurrayreviewed / merged retracer-app charm change re telegraf configuration file15:06
bdmurrayinvestigation into retracing queue backlog15:06
bdmurrayuploaded fix for apport autopkgtest bug LP: #183212015:06
bdmurraysubmitted apt PR regarding df output and snaps (LP: #1756595)15:06
bdmurraycreated, submitted tar xattrs patches to upstream developers15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1832120 in apport (Ubuntu) "i386 - Test fails 'test_get_file_package_uninstalled_multiarch'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183212015:06
bdmurrayupdated apport on Launchpad retracers15:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1756595 in apt (Ubuntu Bionic) "disk space info inadvertently provides all installed snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175659515:06
bdmurraystarted work on motd bug LP: #182996815:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Eoan) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182996815:06
bdmurraylooked into mlocate and command-not-found, sent team an email about it15:06
bdmurrayshort week due to multiple days off15:06
bdmurray✔ done15:06
bdmurraydoko:15:07
doko- GCC 8 and GCC 9 updates15:07
doko- looking at the OpenJDK 8 ftbfs on armhf15:07
doko- binutils update, and testing. Will arrive in eoan shortly15:07
doko- meetings about GCC offloading support15:07
doko- GCC clash protection and cet updates, together with amurray, continued15:07
doko- Monday was bank holiday15:07
doko(done)15:07
juliankno infinity15:07
juliankwaveform_:15:07
waveform_* Investigated compressed kernels on arm64: they don't and won't support self-compression for various sensible reasons (LP: #1808056)15:07
waveform_* Wrote new u-boot bootscript for pi; handling all formats (uncompressed, self-compressed, externally-compressed) on all (supported) pis (2, 3, 3+, CM3, CM3+)15:07
waveform_* Tested bootscript on all (supported) pis, for cases of existing installs and potential future upgrades to compressed kernel on 64-bit versions (all working)15:07
waveform_* Updated flash-kernel with new bootscript, removing all the hacks for the pi2 (uboot.env stuff), and using same boot-script for all archs; will submit MP after this15:07
waveform_* Working on updating pi3-gadget to obtain u-boot script from a staged flash-kernel (currently it's just a static file in the gadget repo - not ideal)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1808056 in linux-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "vmlinuz is very large in arm64 -raspi2" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180805615:07
waveform_* Not much time for bluetooth investigations on core; will get to that tomorrow15:07
waveform_(done)15:07
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cyphermoxcyphermox:15:07
cyphermoxshim reviews15:07
cyphermoxMIR reviews: ec2-hibinit-agent, probert15:08
cyphermoxmultiple meetings about netplan15:08
cyphermoxgrub2 merge (omg)15:08
cyphermoxdealing with selling a house and whatnot15:08
cyphermox(done)15:08
xnoxcyphermox:  the one with pretty wooden floorboards and all that?!15:08
cyphermoxoh, I forgot some partner work I can't give more details15:09
cyphermoxyes15:09
juliankvorlon:15:09
xnoxawww ;`(15:09
vorlon * SRUs:15:09
vorlon  * openssl 1.1.1 release, and a second round of openssl15:09
vorlon  * various SRU reviews15:09
vorlon * digging into the story of non-lts hwe kernels on 14.04 desktops to understand what's gone wrong for some users15:09
vorlon * nvidia driver stack refinements15:09
vorlon  * supporting CPC team in the GKE nvidia drivers15:09
vorlon * discussions around solutions for automated installs in the subiquity world15:09
cyphermoxxnox: there will be other wooden floorboards.15:09
vorlon * discussions around OVS support in netplan15:09
vorlon(done)15:09
dokoopenssl -updates or just -proposed?15:09
xnoxvorlon:  this round of openssl srus is ready to release; and security commented on it.15:09
sil2100- Was out-of-office on Wednesday (waterpark)15:10
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:10
sil2100- Add pandas to big_packages since the ADT tests were OOMing15:10
sil2100- Respin some packages for the toolchains rebuilds15:10
sil2100  * Iterate on those and release15:10
sil2100- Poking around new core18 promotion being blocked - some TPM failures due to new openssl15:10
sil2100- Finishing up cpc_jenkins changes for the new core18 auto-promotion schema, submitting MP15:10
xnoxdoko:  we have it in updates, we have better in -proposed, and one more not uploaded yet.15:10
sil2100- Some nusakan tweaks15:10
sil2100- Testing the prepared /boot/grub u-i classic image upgrade bugfixes15:10
sil2100- Some other stuff I forgot15:10
bdmurrayvorlon: Do we need to talk about hwe and 14.04?15:10
sil2100(done)15:10
rbalint(short week due to national holiday)15:10
rbalint* partner work15:10
rbalint* fixed unattended-upgrades' autopkgtest in Debian in 1.11.215:10
rbalint* fixed d3-format reusing existing non-epoched version in Debian15:10
rbalint* WSL testing15:10
rbalint(done)15:10
juliankany questions?15:10
vorlonbdmurray: yes probably15:11
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)15:11
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vorlon(though not necessarily here)15:11
juliank#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:11
bdmurraybug 1798369 got carded but not targetted?15:12
ubottubug 1798369 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Reinstall Ubuntu (with preserving existing data) shows error message due to "Could not get lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179836915:12
bdmurrayWas that an oversight?15:12
rbalinti think we agreed to remove this feature15:13
vorlonno, we didn't15:13
bdmurrayI don't recall that but the point is if it has a card then we should target it.15:13
vorlonyes, we should target15:13
bdmurrayRight?15:13
bdmurrayOkay, doing so.15:13
bdmurrayhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1832370 is undecided15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1832370 in openssl (Ubuntu) "Unable to configure or disable TLS 1.3 via openssl.cnf" [Undecided,New]15:14
bdmurrayand new15:14
xnoxthat needs to be investigated to confirm if it's real or not.15:14
xnoxi guess i should take, unless someone else wants to play with openssl.cnf?15:14
bdmurraycyphermox: we'd talked about meeting re more rls-ee- bugs but haven't done it yet - lets schedule something15:16
cyphermoxyep15:16
vorlonlooks like it should be taken (and also targeted to bionic, not just eoan)15:16
cyphermoxbdmurray: anytime but next Tuesday please.15:16
juliankRegarding sdeziel's comment on nginx, that still requires a rebuild of nginx against openssl 1.1.1, right?15:17
vorlonjuliank: the point there is that there should already be support for limiting the protocol to the set that older openssl knows about, without having to rebuild anything; but doing so still shows TLSv1.3 being used15:18
xnoxjuliank:  where?15:18
xnoxjuliank:  where is that comment?15:18
bdmurraytargetting15:18
juliankxnox: in the bug15:18
juliank"My main goal is to have TLS 1.3 and 1.2 enabled with this ciphers list"15:18
vorlonhe probably misspoke somewhere along there15:19
juliankah15:19
vorlonthe config shows him pinning 1.1 + 1.2, not 1.315:19
bdmurrayvorlon, xnox: Have you created a card?15:19
juliankNow I understand15:19
juliankvery confusing15:19
xnoxjuliank:  yes and no. the bug is that he can't disable particular chipersuites of 1.3, and then he also discovered he can't disable 1.3 at all it seems - using system configs.15:19
vorlonbdmurray, xnox: doing15:19
juliankThat's annyoing15:19
juliankRebuilding nginx should allow him to do it in nginx.conf, though, afaiui15:20
juliankI wanted to test that but have not gotten around to it yet15:20
vorlonxnox: and dumping this straight into committed lane for you15:20
xnoxvorlon:  tah15:20
vorlonsure, rebuilding all the openssl-using things would let them work around openssl.cnf not working correctly15:21
juliankI gotta create those ecc keys for my server and setup TLS 1.3 to see if I need nginx rebuild or not; but I think I do to get it working correctly15:21
juliankAnyhow, let's move on I guess, any other bugs?15:22
bdmurrayOkay, moving on bug 1756595 has been fixed upstream afaik. Is it worth SRU'ing?15:22
ubottubug 1756595 in apt (Ubuntu Bionic) "disk space info inadvertently provides all installed snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175659515:22
bdmurrayNot many people have used the affects me too feature15:23
juliankbdmurray: Only merged it in git so far.15:23
bdmurrayBut its a trivial SRU15:23
bdmurrayjuliank: Fix Committed then? ;-)15:23
juliankWill add it to future SRUs, but not SRU by itself15:23
bdmurrayjuliank: Alright, cool. Unless this would be a good -proposed test vorlon...15:24
vorlonbdmurray: let's write up more of a policy before we start doing that :)15:24
juliankthere's already a 1.8.2 I have to push to disco15:24
bdmurrayokay, that's it for High bugs then15:24
vorlonare we on some page other than rls-ee now?15:24
bdmurrayvorlon: no15:25
juliankno, still on rls-ee15:25
vorlonah ok15:25
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)15:25
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juliank#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:25
juliankLet's move to bb15:25
juliankNo bugs!15:25
bdmurrayCould bug 1726930 be about the wrong package?15:26
ubottubug 1726930 in laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "System fails to start (boot) on battery due to read-only root file-system" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172693015:26
julianknot sure15:27
vorlonthey were mucking with acpi_os settings? pass15:27
juliankvorlon: "previously"15:27
juliankthat sounds fine to me15:27
vorlonit's a low-signal bug report15:28
vorlonlet's not spend time on it here15:28
juliankIn any case l-m-t upstream is on the bug, so let him deal with it15:28
bdmurraygot it15:29
juliank#topic Team proposed-migration report15:29
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juliank#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:29
xnoxi uploaded new apache215:30
xnoxit should be better15:30
juliankok15:30
juliankthe rest seems boring15:30
juliank#topic IKEA (chair selection)15:32
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sil2100;D15:33
bdmurrayGoldilocks should select the chair15:33
juliankgame of throne15:33
cyphermoxrandom?15:34
cyphermoxor I'll do it15:34
juliankI think everyone happily accepts your sacrifice15:35
cyphermoxjoy!15:35
juliankI'll take that as no objections15:36
juliank#topic AOB15:36
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juliankAnything else?15:36
vorlonnothing from me15:36
gaughenjuliank, nothing from me15:38
gaughenthank you juliank!15:38
bdmurrayme!15:38
bdmurrayWhat about mlocate and command-not-found?15:39
juliankbdmurray: Was that about hiding one of the locates?15:39
bdmurrayjuliank: yeah15:39
juliankbdmurray: I did not follow that closely, where was that discussed?15:40
bdmurrayjuliank: our internal mailing list15:41
juliankAh15:41
juliankSo, yes, mlocate should probably the only thing shown by c-n-f15:42
bdmurrayjuliank: I didn't see an easy way to do that15:43
juliankCould just hack that into the cnf update thingy to ignore locate15:44
bdmurrayYeah, that's the only idea I had.15:45
juliankModifying c-n-f at least means that we don't have a delta15:46
juliankSo, anything else?15:47
bdmurrayIt'll just be hard to locate the change!15:47
bdmurrayNope, that's it.15:47
juliank#endmeeting15:48
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jun 13 15:48:13 2019 UTC.15:48
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juliankthanks everyone15:48

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