=== mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [15:02] o/ [15:03] \o [15:03] o/ [15:03] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [15:03] Meeting started Thu Jun 13 15:03:51 2019 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:03] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: [15:03] #topic Lightning rounds === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Lightning rounds [15:04] echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) [15:04] rbalint tdaitx juliank xnox bdmurray doko infinity waveform mwhudson cyphermox vorlon sil2100 [15:04] rbalint: [15:04] rbalint seems afk [15:04] tdaitx: [15:04] rbalint: was out for food, I will go [15:04] * reviewed, merged, and uploaded 2 livecd-rootfs changes [15:04] * updated bugs and uploaded bionic/cosmic/disco -proposed fixes for tomcat8, netbeans, and scilab (LP: #1825604, LP: #1828427, LP: #1825037, LP: #1827090) [15:04] * investigating openjdk 8u222-b04 failure to build on armhf [15:04] - got a hs_err_log from a ppa (for some reason the eoan build didn't output it) [15:04] - our patches do not seem to be the cause [15:04] - looking at upstream changes to the hotspot for possible causes [15:04] - writing email to aarch32-port for some help on sorting this out [15:04] Launchpad bug 1825604 in netbeans (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Netbeans 10 should depend on java11-sdk" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825604 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1828427 in netbeans (Debian) "[SRU] Netbeans fails to create a java project with NoSuchMethodError" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828427 [15:04] Other: [15:04] Launchpad bug 1825037 in scilab (Ubuntu) "[SRU] scilab-cli and scilab-adv-cli does not start on bionic, cosmic, disco and eoan" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825037 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1827090 in tomcat8 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] tomcat8-instance-create fails to update connector and control ports" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827090 [15:04] - I can run again [15:05] (done) [15:05] juliank: go! [15:05] * aptdaemon: fixed test suite and implemented frontend locking for bb, cc, dd, ee (LP: #1831981) [15:05] Launchpad bug 1831981 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Disco) "aptdaemon frontend locking, locking fixes" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831981 [15:05] * verified LP: #1754075 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1754075 in apt-setup (Debian) "apt-setup uses apt-key but probably should not anymore" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754075 [15:05] * checked that release upgrader can not be MITMed with meta release files anymore (re LP: #807259) [15:05] Launchpad bug 807259 in update-manager (Ubuntu Eoan) "MetaRelease.download() Issue after Captive Portal" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807259 [15:05] * apt hacking [15:05] * got yellow fever vaccination for debconf in brazil [15:05] (done) [15:05] xnox: [15:05] * OpenSSL SRU is out, and uploading regression fixes [15:05] * Fixing up apache2 adt tests [15:05] * Fixing up networking in initrd [15:05] - fixing broken static ip from initrd to netplan [15:05] - fixing broken dns in ipconfig [15:05] - adding support for vlans [15:05] * Prepared s390-tools uploads opal->sipl signing rename [15:05] - awaiting lp deployment to upload [15:05] * Registered for Debconf, All Systems Go [15:05] * Travel booked for Debconf, Toronto, All Systems Go [15:05] * Todo travel to Paris, trains are not bookable yet [15:05] Done [15:06] xnox: some trains may be bookable now, I booked some today [15:06] merged MP from IS regarding cleaning up saved crash files more frequently [15:06] bdmurray: your turn! [15:06] reviewed / merged retracer-app charm change re telegraf configuration file [15:06] investigation into retracing queue backlog [15:06] uploaded fix for apport autopkgtest bug LP: #1832120 [15:06] submitted apt PR regarding df output and snaps (LP: #1756595) [15:06] created, submitted tar xattrs patches to upstream developers [15:06] Launchpad bug 1832120 in apport (Ubuntu) "i386 - Test fails 'test_get_file_package_uninstalled_multiarch'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832120 [15:06] updated apport on Launchpad retracers [15:06] Launchpad bug 1756595 in apt (Ubuntu Bionic) "disk space info inadvertently provides all installed snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756595 [15:06] started work on motd bug LP: #1829968 [15:06] Launchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Eoan) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829968 [15:06] looked into mlocate and command-not-found, sent team an email about it [15:06] short week due to multiple days off [15:06] ✔ done [15:07] doko: [15:07] - GCC 8 and GCC 9 updates [15:07] - looking at the OpenJDK 8 ftbfs on armhf [15:07] - binutils update, and testing. Will arrive in eoan shortly [15:07] - meetings about GCC offloading support [15:07] - GCC clash protection and cet updates, together with amurray, continued [15:07] - Monday was bank holiday [15:07] (done) [15:07] no infinity [15:07] waveform_: [15:07] * Investigated compressed kernels on arm64: they don't and won't support self-compression for various sensible reasons (LP: #1808056) [15:07] * Wrote new u-boot bootscript for pi; handling all formats (uncompressed, self-compressed, externally-compressed) on all (supported) pis (2, 3, 3+, CM3, CM3+) [15:07] * Tested bootscript on all (supported) pis, for cases of existing installs and potential future upgrades to compressed kernel on 64-bit versions (all working) [15:07] * Updated flash-kernel with new bootscript, removing all the hacks for the pi2 (uboot.env stuff), and using same boot-script for all archs; will submit MP after this [15:07] * Working on updating pi3-gadget to obtain u-boot script from a staged flash-kernel (currently it's just a static file in the gadget repo - not ideal) [15:07] Launchpad bug 1808056 in linux-raspi2 (Ubuntu) "vmlinuz is very large in arm64 -raspi2" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1808056 [15:07] * Not much time for bluetooth investigations on core; will get to that tomorrow [15:07] (done) === waveform_ is now known as waveform [15:07] cyphermox: [15:07] shim reviews [15:08] MIR reviews: ec2-hibinit-agent, probert [15:08] multiple meetings about netplan [15:08] grub2 merge (omg) [15:08] dealing with selling a house and whatnot [15:08] (done) [15:08] cyphermox: the one with pretty wooden floorboards and all that?! [15:09] oh, I forgot some partner work I can't give more details [15:09] yes [15:09] vorlon: [15:09] awww ;`( [15:09] * SRUs: [15:09] * openssl 1.1.1 release, and a second round of openssl [15:09] * various SRU reviews [15:09] * digging into the story of non-lts hwe kernels on 14.04 desktops to understand what's gone wrong for some users [15:09] * nvidia driver stack refinements [15:09] * supporting CPC team in the GKE nvidia drivers [15:09] * discussions around solutions for automated installs in the subiquity world [15:09] xnox: there will be other wooden floorboards. [15:09] * discussions around OVS support in netplan [15:09] (done) [15:09] openssl -updates or just -proposed? [15:09] vorlon: this round of openssl srus is ready to release; and security commented on it. [15:10] - Was out-of-office on Wednesday (waterpark) [15:10] - SRU reviews and releases [15:10] - Add pandas to big_packages since the ADT tests were OOMing [15:10] - Respin some packages for the toolchains rebuilds [15:10] * Iterate on those and release [15:10] - Poking around new core18 promotion being blocked - some TPM failures due to new openssl [15:10] - Finishing up cpc_jenkins changes for the new core18 auto-promotion schema, submitting MP [15:10] doko: we have it in updates, we have better in -proposed, and one more not uploaded yet. [15:10] - Some nusakan tweaks [15:10] - Testing the prepared /boot/grub u-i classic image upgrade bugfixes [15:10] - Some other stuff I forgot [15:10] vorlon: Do we need to talk about hwe and 14.04? [15:10] (done) [15:10] (short week due to national holiday) [15:10] * partner work [15:10] * fixed unattended-upgrades' autopkgtest in Debian in 1.11.2 [15:10] * fixed d3-format reusing existing non-epoched version in Debian [15:10] * WSL testing [15:10] (done) [15:10] any questions? [15:11] bdmurray: yes probably [15:11] #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Release incoming bugs (eoan) [15:11] (though not necessarily here) [15:11] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:12] bug 1798369 got carded but not targetted? [15:12] bug 1798369 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Reinstall Ubuntu (with preserving existing data) shows error message due to "Could not get lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798369 [15:12] Was that an oversight? [15:13] i think we agreed to remove this feature [15:13] no, we didn't [15:13] I don't recall that but the point is if it has a card then we should target it. [15:13] yes, we should target [15:13] Right? [15:13] Okay, doing so. [15:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1832370 is undecided [15:14] Launchpad bug 1832370 in openssl (Ubuntu) "Unable to configure or disable TLS 1.3 via openssl.cnf" [Undecided,New] [15:14] and new [15:14] that needs to be investigated to confirm if it's real or not. [15:14] i guess i should take, unless someone else wants to play with openssl.cnf? [15:16] cyphermox: we'd talked about meeting re more rls-ee- bugs but haven't done it yet - lets schedule something [15:16] yep [15:16] looks like it should be taken (and also targeted to bionic, not just eoan) [15:16] bdmurray: anytime but next Tuesday please. [15:17] Regarding sdeziel's comment on nginx, that still requires a rebuild of nginx against openssl 1.1.1, right? [15:18] juliank: the point there is that there should already be support for limiting the protocol to the set that older openssl knows about, without having to rebuild anything; but doing so still shows TLSv1.3 being used [15:18] juliank: where? [15:18] juliank: where is that comment? [15:18] targetting [15:18] xnox: in the bug [15:18] "My main goal is to have TLS 1.3 and 1.2 enabled with this ciphers list" [15:19] he probably misspoke somewhere along there [15:19] ah [15:19] the config shows him pinning 1.1 + 1.2, not 1.3 [15:19] vorlon, xnox: Have you created a card? [15:19] Now I understand [15:19] very confusing [15:19] juliank: yes and no. the bug is that he can't disable particular chipersuites of 1.3, and then he also discovered he can't disable 1.3 at all it seems - using system configs. [15:19] bdmurray, xnox: doing [15:19] That's annyoing [15:20] Rebuilding nginx should allow him to do it in nginx.conf, though, afaiui [15:20] I wanted to test that but have not gotten around to it yet [15:20] xnox: and dumping this straight into committed lane for you [15:20] vorlon: tah [15:21] sure, rebuilding all the openssl-using things would let them work around openssl.cnf not working correctly [15:21] I gotta create those ecc keys for my server and setup TLS 1.3 to see if I need nginx rebuild or not; but I think I do to get it working correctly [15:22] Anyhow, let's move on I guess, any other bugs? [15:22] Okay, moving on bug 1756595 has been fixed upstream afaik. Is it worth SRU'ing? [15:22] bug 1756595 in apt (Ubuntu Bionic) "disk space info inadvertently provides all installed snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756595 [15:23] Not many people have used the affects me too feature [15:23] bdmurray: Only merged it in git so far. [15:23] But its a trivial SRU [15:23] juliank: Fix Committed then? ;-) [15:23] Will add it to future SRUs, but not SRU by itself [15:24] juliank: Alright, cool. Unless this would be a good -proposed test vorlon... [15:24] bdmurray: let's write up more of a policy before we start doing that :) [15:24] there's already a 1.8.2 I have to push to disco [15:24] okay, that's it for High bugs then [15:24] are we on some page other than rls-ee now? [15:25] vorlon: no [15:25] no, still on rls-ee [15:25] ah ok [15:25] #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Release incoming bugs (bionic) [15:25] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:25] Let's move to bb [15:25] No bugs! [15:26] Could bug 1726930 be about the wrong package? [15:26] bug 1726930 in laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "System fails to start (boot) on battery due to read-only root file-system" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1726930 [15:27] not sure [15:27] they were mucking with acpi_os settings? pass [15:27] vorlon: "previously" [15:27] that sounds fine to me [15:28] it's a low-signal bug report [15:28] let's not spend time on it here [15:28] In any case l-m-t upstream is on the bug, so let him deal with it [15:29] got it [15:29] #topic Team proposed-migration report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Team proposed-migration report [15:29] #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:30] i uploaded new apache2 [15:30] it should be better [15:30] ok [15:30] the rest seems boring [15:32] #topic IKEA (chair selection) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: IKEA (chair selection) [15:33] ;D [15:33] Goldilocks should select the chair [15:33] game of throne [15:34] random? [15:34] or I'll do it [15:35] I think everyone happily accepts your sacrifice [15:35] joy! [15:36] I'll take that as no objections [15:36] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: AOB [15:36] Anything else? [15:36] nothing from me [15:38] juliank, nothing from me [15:38] thank you juliank! [15:38] me! [15:39] What about mlocate and command-not-found? [15:39] bdmurray: Was that about hiding one of the locates? [15:39] juliank: yeah [15:40] bdmurray: I did not follow that closely, where was that discussed? [15:41] juliank: our internal mailing list [15:41] Ah [15:42] So, yes, mlocate should probably the only thing shown by c-n-f [15:43] juliank: I didn't see an easy way to do that [15:44] Could just hack that into the cnf update thingy to ignore locate [15:45] Yeah, that's the only idea I had. [15:46] Modifying c-n-f at least means that we don't have a delta [15:47] So, anything else? [15:47] It'll just be hard to locate the change! [15:47] Nope, that's it. [15:48] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [15:48] Meeting ended Thu Jun 13 15:48:13 2019 UTC. [15:48] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-06-13-15.03.moin.txt [15:48] thanks everyone