[00:00] <cuebix> hehe thanks. i'm trying to keep these dev environment instructions as short as possible, but ubuntu actually requires a hell of a lot more steps than windows or macos
[00:01] <sarnold> having nice repeatable instructions pays for itself many times over
[00:01] <cuebix> I totally agree
[00:09] <TJ-> cuebix: systemd-resolved can be configured to forward requests for a particular domain to a specific link, which is what you want I think? (on host's systemd-resolved querying your container DNS server) ?
[00:12] <TJ-> cuebix: if that is what you want it's either via systemd.network config files (for systemd-networkd managing the link) or if s-n isn't managing the link then manually with systemd-resolve --set-dns=SERVER, --set-domain=DOMAIN, --set-llmnr=MODE ... see "man systemd-resolve" for those options
[00:19] <cuebix> when you say for a specific link, what do you mean by link?
[00:19] <cuebix> Actually scratch that
[00:20] <cuebix> I actually need it to forward requests for a top-level domain (in this case, *.test) to a specific server
[00:20] <cuebix> With dnsmasq it's really simple with a line in the config like server=/test/1.2.3.4. I couldn't figure out how to do that with systemd-resolved
[00:24] <cuebix> brb i need to log out and back in
[00:27] <cuebix> hmm, docker is being a bum now :P
[00:28] <cuebix> I added my user to the docker group but i'm still getting permission denied when i run the hello-world container
[00:28] <cuebix> without sudo
[00:29] <cuebix> actually hmm id doesn't show me as part of it even though i logged out of gnome and back in
[00:31] <cuebix> rebootin....
[00:37] <cuebix> There we go
[00:40] <sarnold> what'd you decide on? dnsmasq or systemd-resolved?
[00:40] <cuebix> dnsmasq
[00:41] <cuebix> I still have yet to fully confirm it's working. I'm re-building my containers now. I should've just built that one, but whatever :P
[00:41] <sarnold> haha
[00:42] <sarnold> never hurts to test everything from end to end
[00:43] <cuebix> yeah :)
[00:52] <sincere_fox> Hello
[00:53] <sincere_fox> I just installed an electron app via snap and I get this error https://pastebin.com/rWY8EFqJ
[00:55] <cuebix> Ugh, why is dnsmasq listning on *:53 when i have it configured for 127.0.0.1 :|
[00:55] <sarnold> sincere_fox: if you don't get any traction here, try #snappy
[00:55] <sarnold> cuebix: iirc dnsmasq may be started by any number of other services
[00:55] <sincere_fox> sarnold: Thanks, I'll ask there then
[00:56] <cuebix> yeah but... it wasn't even installed till i installed it manually
[00:56] <sarnold> oh
[00:57] <cuebix> so weird, it doesn't seem to respect my listen address
[00:58] <Bashing-om> cuebix: My notes: "systemd-resolved, or more precisely the hook script /lib/systemd/system/systemd-resolved.service.d/resolvconf.conf, causes resolvconf to add 127.0.0.53 "
[00:58] <sarnold> ohwait I think I've seen this one. I think they dynamically decide what to do because they want to be able to come and go on addresses as interfaces come and go
[00:58] <sarnold> and linux's support for watching interfaces come and go is so bad no one does it
[01:00] <cuebix> Bashing-om, thanks, but I don't want to always have dns go through the server in question. I only want the test tld to go through it. I don't seem to see a way to do that with systemd-resolved
[01:00] <cuebix> sarnold, heh, well that is frustrating
[01:01] <sarnold> cuebix: yeah :/ It was a frustrating couple of weeks trying to sort ou how to handle the set of issues
[01:01] <sarnold> I think we wound up deciding to not fix the bugs in question. heh.
[01:06] <cuebix> :|
[01:07] <cuebix> the source of /etc/init.d/dnsmasq looks like it has some insight...
[01:08] <sarnold> cuebix: try fiddling with --bind-interfaces or --bind-dynamic
[01:10] <cuebix> k, thanks
[01:10] <cuebix> yeah it looks like bind-interfaces is what i want
[01:11] <swills> where can i find docs on netplan?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> !netplan | swills
[01:12] <swills> thx
[01:13] <tomreyn> there are man pages, too: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?q=netplan
[01:14] <swills> ah, cool. i like man.cx too
[01:16] <cuebix> so passing the -z parameter (--bind-interfaces) seems to work... that is, when i run it manually on the command line. is there a way to do that with /etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
[01:17] <sarnold> cuebix: I think just echo bind-interfaces >> /etc/dnsmasq.conf
[01:17] <cuebix> oh, that's simple enough :)
[01:17] <sarnold> (read the file again to make sure it makes sense there, it fit well enough with the /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager i've got..
[01:18] <cuebix> yup that did it
[01:18] <cuebix> sheesh, so many details lol
[01:19] <sarnold> dnsmasq is a veritable mixture of swiss army knife, kitchen sink, and a very overburdened camel :)
[01:19] <cuebix> finally, it works
[01:19] <cuebix> lol
[01:19] <cuebix> Thank you all for your help, especially you sarnold, you seem to have all the answers :)
[01:20] <sarnold> you're welcome cuebix :)
[01:25] <cuebix> man, something is still off. it's resolving using my server but hmm looks like nginx isn't sending traffic to the right places or something
[01:29] <cuebix> either i have something misconfigured or there's some timing issue and i'm not seeing it or docker is really strange lol. sometimes i just bring my environment down and back up and things magically work
[01:44] <Ultron> is ubuntu updates so dangerous like that? I have been just updating the system and suddenly after reboot I have had a black screen
[01:44] <Ultron> had to re-install ubuntu
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Ultron: Broken proprietary driver ?
[01:50] <Ultron> Bashing-om, mesa
[01:50] <Ultron> I am using rx 580
[02:00] <chull> My husband has been doing a sudo command, which normally asks for the password, he enters it and it does the command. But now, suddenly it acts like he’s entering the wrong password! “Sorry, try again” He doesn’t think he did anything to change the password. It’s ubuntu 18.04. Why would it do this?
[02:02] <chull> we *could* reset the password, but I'd like to know if something is wrong, first?
[02:03] <ryuo> chull: perhaps it was entered wrong. these are case sensitive after all.
[02:03] <OerHeks> caps shift lock, probably
[02:04] <OerHeks> or using keypad that is not on num lock
[02:04] <ryuo> one piece of advice. type it out in a buffer somewhere then copy+paste it to the sudo prompt.
[02:04] <chull> ryuo, i looked at his keyboard while he was typing it, no lights on.
[02:04] <ryuo> if that still fails and the text is correct, then the password is no longer accepted for some reason.
[02:05] <ryuo> password was changed, among other possibilities.
[02:05] <chull> that's what i thought ryuo
[02:05] <chull> it's weird and it ought to be working.
[02:05] <OerHeks> whoami
[02:05] <ryuo> OerHeks: OerHeks
[02:05] <chull> OerHeks, ok
[02:06] <ryuo> well, yes, that's also possible. wrong user.
[02:06] <OerHeks> so he is root? sudo -i ....
[02:06] <ryuo> OerHeks: if he was root already, sudo wouldn't ask for a password.
[02:06] <chull> he's him
[02:07] <chull> :~$ sudo journalctl -b -1 > 2019-06-13journaldtl.b1.07:46pm.txt
[02:07] <chull>   is what he entered
[02:07] <ryuo> erm
[02:07] <ryuo> try disabling the redirection first.
[02:08] <ryuo> removing*
[02:08] <chull> explain?
[02:08] <ryuo> The '>' and everything after it.
[02:08] <chull> ah right
[02:09] <ryuo> that redirects stdout which could be a problem...
[02:09] <chull> ryuo, you're a genius. it does work without that.
[02:10] <ryuo> No, I just know that sudo doesn't work very well with redirections like that.
[02:10] <ryuo> you may need another solution so it won't be applied until the command is actually run.
[02:10] <chull> it's been working with a similar command, i'll have to see if i see a difference.  What he's trying to do is keep a file of when the box crashes so he can compare them.
[02:11] <ryuo> i see.
[02:11] <ryuo> this might work then.
[02:11] <ryuo> sudo journalctl -b -1 | tee log
[02:11] <ryuo> replace log with the file name.
[02:12] <chull> that had an interesting effect with 'log' in it. shutting things down
[02:12] <ryuo> it doesn't work at all? well, it's one thing to try.
[02:13] <ryuo> if worst comes to worst, you can write a shell script wrapper to run as root.
[02:13] <ryuo> though, you said there's been crashes?
[02:14] <valerio> hello :) Is there a way to check if my OS is correctly installed? (i.e. if the OS got corrupted, if there are errors etc..)
[02:14] <chull> yes .. we would just like it not to crash :)
[02:14] <ryuo> chull: well, that's usually a software or hardware issue, i can't really say which without more information.
[02:15] <chull> ryuo, what would you want to know?
[02:15] <ryuo> chull: how does it behave?
[02:15] <ryuo> sometimes a system is still online but the display is just unusable.
[02:15] <chull> ryuo, it suddenly freezes, the clock stops and other things don't work.  it's not overheating and anything else i can't say.
[02:16] <ryuo> i usually do the USB keyboard test. if the kernel still responds...
[02:16] <ryuo> the caps lock and such should respond.
[02:16] <ryuo> turn on/off
[02:16] <ryuo> the lights
[02:16] <ryuo> or otherwise respond to pings from another computer
[02:16] <ryuo> chull: well, that's either a problem with the kernel or a hardware problem.
[02:16] <chull> ryuo, it doesn't respond to the keyboard and the only choice is to turn off the power and restart the box.
[02:17] <ryuo> chull: what type of computer is it?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> valerio: A quick verification ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo dpkg -C '. If the system has no complaints, all golden.
[02:17] <ryuo> chull: i mean, what kind of PC?
[02:18] <chull> ryuo it's an i5
[02:19] <ryuo> chull: i meant form factor.
[02:19] <chull> he built it, not our first. he used to do computers for a living before he had the stroke.
[02:19] <valerio> Bashing-om: Ill try that, thanks!
[02:19] <ryuo> chull: so a custom desktop.
[02:19] <chull> ryuo, yes
[02:19] <ryuo> oui. ok.
[02:20] <ryuo> well, freezes can be caused by many hardware problems. only extensive tests over a period of time can really say why.
[02:20] <chull> ryuo, what tests would help?
[02:20] <ryuo> i'd start with RAM tests. bad RAM chips can cause a lot of issues with reliability.
[02:20] <ryuo> it's unpredictable how those manifest.
[02:21] <ryuo> if those come back clean and the test doesn't freeze up...
[02:21] <ryuo> the Power Supply could be bad.
[02:21] <ryuo> the motherboard could be bad...
[02:21] <chull> ryuo, he would have to run with one stick two sticks three etc?
[02:21] <ryuo> No, he can just use RAM test software.
[02:21] <Bashing-om> valerio: :)
[02:22] <ryuo> even the CPU could be bad, though that's very rare.
[02:22] <ryuo> it's usually another component.
[02:23] <chull> ryuo, yes. is there testing software you'd recommend?
[02:23] <ryuo> well, memtest86+ or memtest86. memtest86+ is fine if your hardware is like 2013 or older.
[02:23] <ryuo> memtest86 is better for newer hardware.
[02:24] <chull> it's a fairly new - 2 years system
[02:24] <ryuo> ok, then try this: https://www.memtest86.com/
[02:24] <ryuo> you'd need to prepare external media for it.
[02:24] <ryuo> and then boot from that.
[02:26] <chull> ok will do. Thank you ryuo :)
[02:26] <ryuo> chull: if that comes back clean, then you'll need to try replacing other stuff.
[02:27] <ryuo> chull: RAM is the only part I know of how you can cheaply test for.
[02:27] <chull> yes. ryuo we will have to come back again later for that
[02:27] <ryuo> chull: Or, you can always try buying a second hand system that doesn't have issues. whichever ends up being more economical.
[02:27] <chull> ryuo it's a good start.
[02:31] <ryuo> chull: i once had a problem where my system would mysteriously reboot and it gradually became more frequent. it turned out to be my PSU being the problem.
[02:33] <gallomimia> i seen that problem once with an older system. it would boot straight to POST mysteriously, often in the middle of startup. turned out to be a hair in the cpu socket
[02:42] <valerio> Can someone explain how to check the OS integrity using debsums?
[02:46] <OerHeks> Verify installed package files against MD5 checksum lists from /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums. , pretty self explaining
[02:53] <valerio> OerHeks: sudo debsums and if everything says OK then my OS is correctly installed (no corrupted files, no missing files, no errors etc..)
[02:54] <valerio> is that right?
[04:10] <cyberfingers> I am using a php app SEO Panel, which I want to connect to an external MySQL Server. What do I need to install so this will work? Thanks
[04:12] <plongshot> Does anyone know the right way to "run tmux as a login shell" ? It is mentioned in the manpage but I don't see any recent information (ie: that would work for / on ubuntu 18.04 desktop or server).  thanks
[04:16] <plongshot> This:  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43601/how-can-i-set-my-default-shell-to-start-up-tmux  show this    code being included into the user's .bashrc  as the soln to running tmux as a login shell but it is from 2015 and doesn't mention ubuntu specifically.
[04:16] <plongshot> if command -v tmux &> /dev/null && [ -n "$PS1" ] && [[ ! "$TERM" =~ screen ]] && [[ ! "$TERM" =~ tmux ]] && [ -z "$TMUX" ]; then
[04:16] <plongshot>   exec tmux
[04:16] <plongshot> fi
[04:18] <plongshot> I mean, is that the right way to do it?
[04:19] <ryuo> plongshot: i'd suggest byobu myself. it's the easy way to integrater tmux or screen to spawn at login.
[04:20] <plongshot> thx ryuo.  I'll look at that
[04:21] <ryuo> it's included by default with ubuntu server even.
[04:22] <plongshot> ryuo: Do you think it incurs much overhead to run byobu on a remote?
[04:22] <plongshot> noticable latency?
[04:23] <ryuo> plongshot: no? why would there be? latency is most impacted by the quality of the network route.
[04:24] <ryuo> plongshot: unless the server is really slow, i don't see how the software you ran would have a noticeable impact on latency.
[04:24] <ryuo> or some other bug.
[04:33] <plongshot> ryuo: Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know I was mixing terms
[04:49] <maccam94> what's the correct way to fully restart the user session + gui in ubuntu 18.04, without rebooting? I've tried restarting display-manager.service, but it doesn't come back, and the user processes are left. restarting the user@1000.service also doesn't work
[04:55] <wahdizzit> is there a good way to reset ubuntu server back to its basic install state?
[04:57] <wahdizzit> i was trying to do something and failed. I'd like to try a different thing, but don't really want to reinstall if I can help it
[05:03] <wahdizzit> is there an easy way to access this channel with xmpp?
[05:27] <the2048> Huh, brightness control on my laptop doesn't work under 18.04
[05:37] <gbellinoz> My gnome-control-center only has a few items - Language Support, Printers, and Software & Updates. What have I neutered on my system?
[06:12] <_`> /usr/share/apport/recoverable_problem crashed with a permission error trying to access /proc/1/exe. somehow this does not make me feel good.
[06:13] <_`> i think i will need to have my laptop exorcised
[06:14] <_`> does anybody know any priests who are open-source-friendly?
[06:28] <aquanaut> Hi,everyone.No root file system is defined when I install ubuntu19 in DEL_PC.How can I solve this?
[06:42] <guiverc> aquanaut, do you mean 19.04?  (there is no Ubuntu Core 19)  I'd verify your install media, and if you did that, try using 'something-else' & ensure you have a root file system/partition defined
[06:47] <fastfresh> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/b1hhfSjU
[06:48] <fastfresh> How to skip grub os menu at boot? Here is /etc/default/grub file. It was like this on install, I did not change it. https://hastebin.com/dasurapora All the needed options are set, but it still shows menu every time. Any ideas?
[06:50] <EriC^^> fastfresh: add the grub record fail timeout
[06:51] <EriC^^> fastfresh: GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=0
[06:55] <fastfresh> EriC^^: this helped, thank you.
[06:59] <EriC^^> fastfresh: no problem
[07:00] <fastfresh> Eric^^: but why GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 is not enough? What is recordfail?
[07:03] <EriC^^> fastfresh: it's for when the pc doesn't boot properly it uses it, it's some bug i guess that it's using it always
[07:03] <fastfresh> Might be related to this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1814403
[07:04] <fastfresh> It says fix released long ago
[07:04] <fastfresh> Ok
[07:58] <darutoko> is there a non alphanumeric character that have high priority in Files sort order? In Windows I could have folder !Stuff and it will be sorted on top but Files ignores ! and sorts it like S
[08:00] <geirha> darutoko: that depends on the locale
[08:02] <geirha> darutoko: For example, compare   sort <<< $'a\n.a\n,a\n-a'   and    LC_COLLATE=C sort <<< $'a\n.a\n,a\n-a'
[08:02] <geirha> the first one sorts the lines according to your current locale's collation order, the second sorts them by their ascii values
[08:06] <darutoko> geirha, they are exectly the same
[08:10] <geirha> ok, in the norwegian locale I use they differ, perhaps the locale you use have them closer to the ascii
[08:11] <darutoko> geirha, so there is no way to do what I want?
[08:12] <darutoko> geirha, without messing up locale
[08:26] <geirha> Not if your current locale does not have any characters it considers to sort before 0
[08:34] <zeta> I'm trying to design a web page and after much frustration I noticed the color data in print-screen is wrong!
[08:34] <zeta> Is there a way to tweak the color settings for the print screen function ?
[08:36] <blackflow> zeta: what print screen function?
[08:36] <zeta> GNOME Screenshot
[08:36] <blackflow> zeta: wrong how?
[08:37] <zeta> I use color picker tool, but the color is not the same as the color in CSS
[08:38] <blackflow> zeta: give an example please
[08:38] <zeta> For example, set background to #2b2c27, print-screen, use color picker, and the color will say #2f302b
[08:40] <blackflow> the gnome screenshot tool has two options: copy to clipboard or save to file. which one are you using? it has no color picker in itself.
[08:40] <tomreyn> in which application do you set and display this background (maybe gnome settings / tweak tool?), in which application do you use a color picker?
[08:40] <cupcake> Hi is the following method work in polkit rule ? subject.isInGroup("sudo")) || subject.user ("user")
[08:41] <zeta> I've tried both copy to clipboard and save to file. I use Gimp color picker (and have also tried a web color picker and got the same result)
[08:42] <zeta> I set the color in a .html file for example <html><style>body{background: #2b2c27}</style></html>
[08:42] <blackflow> zeta: are you 100% sure that there's no other effects in CSS changing the color? I just ran a test and the colors are the same in CSS and copy-to-cliboard-paste-to-gimp
[08:43] <zeta> thanks blackflow, it's something with my desktop then, some overlay maybe!?
[08:43] <blackflow> methinks this is out of scope for #ubuntu. I'd say the problem is in your CSS altering the color somehow, by cascade or by an overlay effect.
[08:44] <blackflow> if you copy to cliboard or save as PNG the colors in the screenshot'ed image will be correct. jpeg might alter/alias/approximate specific pixels, but that's something else
[08:44] <zeta> I know in Ubuntu 16 if you had the print screen app open it created an overlay, so it got darker and darker ...
[08:45] <zeta> Can it has something to do with Nvidia drivers ?
[08:45] <blackflow> zeta: use the gnome screenshot tool and then try several variants: whole screen, current window, or select an area, see if you get different/correct results
[09:03] <zeta> It's only when the screenshot is saved to file, then copied, it gets the colors wrong
[09:03] <zeta> if I use gnome-screenshot -ac it gets the correct colors!
[09:05] <zeta> if I open the file (not copying) the colors are correct
[09:05] <blackflow> how are you copying the file?
[09:05] <zeta> So the problem seem to be the copy function of Image Viewer
[09:06] <blackflow> if you are JPEG-recompressing the file then yes, it is bound to change color bit here or there
[09:06] <zeta> Image viewer seem to apply some filter
[09:06] <zeta> The data saved to disk by gnome-screenshot is correct!
[09:06] <blackflow> purr fect.
[09:09] <zeta> If I remember correctly it was also Image Viewer that created the darkening overlay in Ubuntu 16
[10:03] <whitebyte> I am creating a VM using qemu and ubuntu image: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/20190531/bionic-server-cloudimg-amd64.img, and following commands: https://pastebin.com/6562Pg8Q  it is giving no bootable disk error. Can anyone help what am I missing
[10:03] <whitebyte> The same thing works for an alpine image
[10:17] <BluesKaj_> Hi folks
[10:20] <blackflow> whitebyte: that cloudimg is not an ISO for -cdrom, it's the actual img, like the one you'd create with qemu-img
[10:21] <blackflow> whitebyte: remove -cdrom and -boot options and supply this img file for -drive
[10:27] <whitebyte> blackflow, it did work. but I dont understand difference between ISO for cdrom and actual image?
[10:27] <ryuo> whitebyte: one is a CD image, the other is an actual drive image.
[10:27] <ryuo> the most notable difference is one is designed to be read-only and the other is designed to be read-write.
[10:28] <blackflow> also the format is different. CDR images have no MBR, they're using ISO9660 standard
[10:29] <ryuo> even the ones that end used as DVD or Blu-Ray media.
[10:34] <whitebyte> okay, What are the default login credentials for Ubuntu 18.04 image?
[10:36] <blackflow> whitebyte: username is "ubuntu", no password. no ssh access until you set up proper auth
[10:37] <whitebyte> In order to setup proper auth, the only option I have is cloud-init, or is there any other way?
[10:39] <blackflow> cloud init is default but you can remove it and configure things your way
[10:43] <whitebyte> blackflow, you mean create a custom ubuntu image?
[10:49] <CoffeeCattle> my wifi never works after I suspend my computer. I have to keep turning the wifi off and on again till it works again
[10:49] <CoffeeCattle> I had an issues before with my wifi keep disconnecting and I was told to change the power management from a 2 to a 3
[10:57] <ovrh> Hello
[10:57] <ovrh> Does anybody have any suggestions how I could debug an issue with Ubuntu not recognizing the external monitor attached to my laptop anymore?
[10:58] <ovrh> xrandr is being no help, the laptop has 2 DisplayPorts and 1 HDMI, and it lists none of them (the monitor is attached at the HDMI)
[10:58] <ovrh> And in Settings -> Devices -> Displays only one monitor is listed, not two anymore, and there's no option for organizing them anymore.
[11:03] <cfhowlett> ovrh= used to work though, right?
[11:04] <ovrh> Yes
[11:04] <ovrh> Until yesterday morning
[11:04] <cfhowlett> what system changes did you make?
[11:05] <gofio> in ubuntu 18.04 I'm being asked to restart (I have it in spanish but kinda trasnlating on the go) the packages without asking for a libssl1.1:amd64 so I'm gonna click yes, guessing that's ok
[11:05] <ovrh> cfhowlett, Yesterday morning I took it with me, and installed `powertop` and `slimbookbattery` to try and see if the battery life would improve (spoiler: it doesn't)
[11:05] <ovrh> And I think one of those two messed something up
[11:06] <cfhowlett> If the changes you mention should not have impacted monitor but ...
[11:07] <cfhowlett> assuming hardware, most usual issue with cables.  test the monitor on a different machine to verify functionality
[11:07] <cfhowlett> also test a different monitor from your laptop
[11:08] <ovrh> cfhowlett, I did that already. I tested both the monitor on another laptop, and the monitor on my laptop but booting into windows. Both work without any problems at all
[11:08] <cfhowlett> ah!  one step ahead!  :)
[11:08] <ovrh> Also, I thought it was a driver issue
[11:08] <cfhowlett> try this then: purge powertop and sliimbookbattery?
[11:09] <ovrh> So I `sudo apt purge 'nvidia*'` and `sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390`, but no help there either
[11:09] <ovrh> cfhowlett, Did that immediately, but things didn't go back to normal
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: check your dpkg logs, maybe there's a clue what could have caused it
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: see also your dmesg or a syslog tail when you branch your hdmi
[11:10] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Where are the dpkg logs?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: /var/log/
[11:13] <gofio> later on somebody will ask "why did you do that"?? xD
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> gofio: keep offtopic comments out of support please
[11:14] <gofio> in ubuntu 18.04 I'm being asked to restart (I have it in spanish but kinda trasnlating on the go) the packages without asking for a libssl1.1:amd64 so I'm gonna click yes, guessing that's ok
[11:16] <tobiasBora> Hello,
[11:16] <tobiasBora> Since a few days, flash does not work anymore on firefox
[11:17] <gofio> they are upgrading
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !flash | tobiasBora
[11:17] <tobiasBora> I tried to install adobe-flashplugin, but it does not work
[11:17] <gofio> I'll try ask in windows xD
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> gofio: dont please
[11:18] <tobiasBora> basically, when I click on flash I have "Allow", when I click I get nothing, just a white/black (depending on the website) screen. I tried on chromium, it just work(tm).
[11:20] <tobiasBora> hum, in the plugins in firefox I can see "Shockware Flash is known to be vulnerable and must be updated"
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> tobiasBora: some websites are badly written, have old flash methods
[11:22] <tobiasBora> lotuspsychje: well it does even work on official flash website
[11:22] <tobiasBora> https://helpx.adobe.com/fr/flash-player.html
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> tobiasBora: wich ubuntu and flash version please?
[11:24] <tobiasBora> lotuspsychje: ubuntu LTS 14.04 (maybe I should update now...), firefox 66.0.3, flash 32.0.0
[11:25] <ryuo> tobiasBora: it's overdue.
[11:25] <ryuo> literally.
[11:25] <tobiasBora> ryuo: which one? flash?
[11:25] <ryuo> 14.04 EOLed already.
[11:26] <tobiasBora> ryuo: Ok, I'll try to update. But firefox and flash looks pretty recent now?
[11:26] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, There are some errors in dmesg (namely, "ACPI errors", a "tmp error" and several "PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key"), but nothing to me looks like problems with HDMI.
[11:26] <ryuo> it's still out of date.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> tobiasBora= and still unsecured as it ZERO security upgrades.  fix this.
[11:27] <ovrh> In the dpkg.log there are a lot of mentions of slimbookbattery and powertop at the time I installed them, what should I look for exactly?
[11:27] <ovrh> Also looked into `tail -f syslog` while unplugging/plugging in the HDMI with the monitor on, but nothing shows up as a consequence of the actions.
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: could you pastebin your dmesg and dpkg logs please?
[11:27] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Of course, give me a moment please
[11:31] <tobiasBora> cfhowlett: I guess I'll have to yes. It's just that it's not my personnal computer, and I'm afraid to disturb the user
[11:33] <tobiasBora> anyway, thanks, hope the update will fix it
[11:33] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xwnRCPQtqd/, dpkg.log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wVg2hRd3Gm/ (for this one I went back to the day before the problem)
[11:33] <cfhowlett> tobiasBora= well so long as he agrees to live with any malware created by going online with an outdated , unsupported system ...
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: what chipset of nvidia you got please? you dualboot?
[11:36] <jeremy31> ovrh:  disable secure boot
[11:37] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Yes I dualboot (every once in a while). I have a Nvidia GTX 1060 Mobile (`lspci -v | grep VGA`: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gvN2nwQjv6/)
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: i would go for what jeremy31 suggests, then for GTX cards we reccomend the ubuntu graphics ppa for drivers
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | ovrh
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: your dpkg logs also show you removed 2019-06-13 19:20:15 remove libnvidia-common-410:all 410.104-0ubuntu0~18.04.1
[11:39] <ovrh> jeremy31, How come? It has been working no problem with that enabled until yesterday
[11:39] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, That's what I have installed. nvidia-drivers-390 proprietary from the ppa:graphics-drivers
[11:40] <jeremy31> ovrh: secure boot will not allow the Nvidia driver to be used
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: dont think 390 is reccomended for your gtx card, id go a higher version
[11:40] <tobiasBora> cfhowlett: her priority is more to understand how to copy/paste ;) Anyway, I'll take to time to update in the weekend
[11:41] <cfhowlett> good luck there tobiasBora
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> tobiasBora: or backup and even clean install a supported version
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !cookie | tobiasBora
[11:41] <ovrh> jeremy31, So it was using the Intel ones so far?
[11:41] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, It's the higher one that shows for me both doing apt search nvidia and in the "Software and Updates -> Additional drivers" menu
[11:42] <ovrh> There is a 410 opensource one, but I've always been recommended not to install the opensource ones because they don't work
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: what have you been doing exactly? remove nvidia-kernel-source-396:amd64 396.54-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1
[11:44] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, `sudo apt remove nvidia-kernel-source-396`: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xxT8j8TJ7N/ The package is not there
[11:45] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, I purged the nvidia drivers initially and reinstalled them because I thought it was a driver-getting-messed-up problem
[11:45] <ovrh> But it didn't work
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: i was refering to your dpkg logs
[11:45] <ovrh> I installed the 396 first, saw that it didn't work, and removed everything and reinstalled 390 from scratch
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: try what jeremy31 said, and perhaps a 418 or 410 from the ubuntu ppa
[11:47] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, How do I disable secureboot?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: or 430 or 415
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | ovrh into your bios
[11:47] <ovrh> Alright
[11:48] <ovrh> Let me purge the nvidia stuff again, install 410, and then go into the bios. I'll report back
[11:59] <gofio> what could be causing thrash bin not to open? in gnome3 and ubuntu 18.04
[12:03] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, jeremy31: All done. Installed nvidia-driver-410 after purging the 390, but the secure boot stuff was already disabled in the BIOS (which means I disabled it a long long time ago). Still nothing, monitor didn't come on
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: pastebin: sudo lshw -C video plz?
[12:03] <ovrh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hqzxMpBWqq/
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: you sure fastboot=off and secureboot=off right?
[12:05] <ovrh> Yes, 100%. I have a picture of the secure boot screen
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: what about nvidia-settings, does your card is set to performance mode or powersaving mode?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: did you also try what cfhowlett suggested, reverting your yesterday installs?
[12:07] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Secure boot screen: https://i.imgur.com/UhAo77F.jpg
[12:08] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, The card is set to "NVIDIA (performance mode)
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: what about the 'boot' tab, uefi or legacy?
[12:08] <ovrh> (the alternative is "Intel (Power Saving Mode)")
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: performance is set good
[12:09] <ovrh> And yes, I tried what cfhowlett suggested, I removed those two packages yesterday as soon as I plugged the monitor in and it didn't work, and to make sure I ran sudo apt purge packages again today when he suggested it.
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: just crious, does your gnome systemsettings show your external screens in devices/screen?
[12:09] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Not sure about the boot tab. Give me 90 seconds and I'll check.
[12:10] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, No, gnome settings only shows one thing, this: https://i.imgur.com/O2B91Hi.png and the monitor is plugged in right now
[12:10] <ace_me> I am inside a docker image created from oracle slim one and I want to add pdo_mysl inside that image too
[12:11] <ovrh> (restarting to check the boot tab in the bios, brb)
[12:11] <ace_me> I've tried to add in dockerfile  RUN yum install pdo-mysql
[12:11] <ace_me> failed to build: The command '/bin/sh -c yum install pdo-mysql' returned a non-zero code: 1
[12:13] <gofio> lotuspsychje: can you read me?
[12:15] <ace_me> No package php71w-pdo-mysql available.
[12:17] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, There isn't an option to chose between legacy and UEFI
[12:18] <ovrh> That tab only has the boot priority and a sub-menu called UEFI settings with this in it: blob:https://imgur.com/5507f503-67b9-4c25-9f94-9e4c0d61bed0
[12:18] <blackflow> ace_me: wrong channel?
[12:18] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Here's the whole thing: https://imgur.com/a/sQGu5h0
[12:20] <gofio> I'm testing the ignore filter and I need a volunteer, anybody? not sure the test has worked as lotuspsychje not typing any more
[12:21] <ovrh> gofio, Ignore filter'
[12:21] <ovrh> *?
[12:21] <gofio> ovrh: thanks, are you gonna be around for a moment?
[12:21] <ovrh> Sure
[12:23] <gofio> ovrh: I'm on smuxi client so the /ignore command is not working cuz it has it's own. Let me try with yours. Hopefully you'll write something in the next ten minutes. You mind if I ask you after that?
[12:23] <blackflow> gofio: please stick to ubuntu support here, thanks.
[12:24] <gofio> blackflow: that's what I'm doing
[12:24] <gofio> blackflow: 13:59 <gofio> what could be causing thrash bin not to open? in gnome3 and ubuntu 18.04
[12:24] <fastfresh> Is it possible to install kernel >= 4.19 on 18.04 without compiling it?
[12:24] <fastfresh> I need it for some wifi  drivers that are missing in 4.18
[12:24] <fastfresh> I can't find 4.19 packages in  bionic repos, is it ok if I manually install deb packages with desired kernel?
[12:25] <gofio> fastfresh: also got screwed here with a bluetooth usd device after an upgrade. Though the mess was started by the manufacturer, all said
[12:27] <fastfresh> gofio: how did you perform the upgrade?
[12:27] <gofio> fastfresh: it's a long story
[12:38] <gofio> everything working
[13:39] <whitebyte> I am creating a VM using qemu and ubuntu image: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/20190531/bionic-server-cloudimg-amd64.img, and the machine boot into (initramfs) saying gave up waiting for root filesystem device. ALERT! LABEL=cloudimg-rootfs doesnot exist. What does it need, any clue?
[14:22] <ovrh> A weird question: is there a way for Linux to turn off connectivity ports? (hdmi, usb, dp etc) And if so, is there a way to check which ones are turned off and turn them on?
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> ovrh: This site might help set you down the path, otherwise you might want to try asking in ##linux ... : http://karlcode.owtelse.com/blog/2017/01/09/disabling-usb-ports-on-linux/
[14:31] <ovrh> Thank you, pragmaticenigma
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> ovrh: Keep in mind these are only software stops. It will not disable the ports fully and it is still possible for the ports to trigger actions on the computer. The only way to truely disable a port is to either put hot glue into the port, or physically remove them from the computer.
[14:35] <ovrh> pragmaticenigma, I see. I'm not trying to disable a port, I'm just really trying to understand if an HDMI port is being seen by linux. I know for a fact that it works, but Ubuntu disagrees
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> ovrh: Try a different cable and/or different HDMI display device. Also, if the graphics card has it's own drivers available, make sure they're installed (i.e. Nvidia)
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: if you re-ask your question, please add all steps tryed before to volunteers, so they can pickup from there
[14:38] <ovrh> pragmaticenigma, Tried all that already. The cable is fine and the device works both on another laptop and on the windows partition. And I have the drivers installed for sure. I was just starting to think that it might be the ports not receiving any actual power, somehow (?), since they aren't listed in xrandr
[14:38] <ovrh> Although it seems like an unlikely think to happen
[14:39] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Sorry, didn't mean to ask again, just wanted to try something different.
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: your endgoal is still to fix your external displays?
[14:41] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, To fix ubuntu not seeing the display, yes
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> ovrh: so its pretty relevant, you describe our previous steps tryed to new volunteers right?
[14:44] <ovrh> lotuspsychje, Sure, but again, last one was a self contained question, just to see if I could try this other thing.
[14:52] <eraserpencil> how might i auto connect to a certain SSID with nmcli
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil: This was the first result I found in a web search: nmcli device wifi connect SSID-Name password wireless-password
[14:53] <eraserpencil> on boot it always connects to an SSID of a weaker connection
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil: Remove the weaker connection from the saved SSIDs is another option
[14:54] <eraserpencil> was hoping I could find an easier option than to run "nmcli connection up <SSID>" everytime i log in
[14:55] <eraserpencil> is there a priority list or something you are aware of?
[14:57] <SimonNL> eraserpencil: if nmtui is installed you could try that
[14:57] <SimonNL> I think
[14:58] <SimonNL> there is auto connect option in there
[15:07] <eraserpencil> both are on autoconnect. perhaps i need a script to do what i want
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil: Or set one of them to not auto connect... seems easier
[15:22] <jil> hi
[15:33] <jil> I'm trying to correct the display of fonts in evince.  I don't know what happen, they use to be fine but now they are displayed as rectangles.
[15:34] <jil> where lauching from command line, I get pango-warning https://dpaste.de/auxU
[15:35] <jil> It's been a long time (several month) since I noticed the problem. I think it was after a font install.
[15:38] <CoJaBo> So, I think I have to change the "device master key" on a luks volume; is that the same as the "volume key" that cryptsetup-reencrypt can change, and is changing that sufficient to prevent access to the original volume by someone who has an (old) full copy of the volume?
[15:47] <tomreyn> CoJaBo: not sure this helps: based on the cryptsetup-reencrypt man page's description of the "volume key" i assume it must be the same thing as what the cryptsetup man page refers to as the "device master key".
[15:48] <tomreyn> (and it is certainly not helpful that they use different terms for what seems to be the same thing.)
[15:50] <tomreyn> CoJaBo: since changing the master key effectively means reencrypting the full storage, doing so and replacing / removing the users key slot should be sufficient to prevent continued access by a former user.
[15:52] <CoJaBo> tomreyn: Yeh, it's also confusing that the manpage for cryptsetup says the key can never be changed, and then there's cryptsetup-reencrypt which seems to exist mainly to change this key lol
[15:52] <tomreyn> of course they'll still be able to access their old copy of the data if they had a full dump of the encrypted volume and a copy of the master key (which is accessible to administrative users whenever the encrypted volume is active / "opened").
[15:53] <CoJaBo> A disk image of the volume was uploaded to Dropbox
[15:53] <tomreyn> cryptsetup-reencrypt was only developed years after cryptsetup, and apparently the man page was not updated since, so this would explain why cryptsetup is not aware of -reencrypt's existence and features.
[15:54] <CoJaBo> We aren't 100% sure if the passphrase was also compromised, but the fear is that if it were at some point in the future, someone would presumably be able to use any old passphrase to access the current volume.
[15:55] <akem> Hey, I would like to use RAID 1 hard drives box on my Ubuntu laptop over USB, i've seen this: https://www.amazon.fr/Yottamaster-pouces-10Gbps-externe-Bo%C3%AEtier/dp/B06XYMR61K/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=Disque%2BDur%2BExterne%2BRaid%2B1&qid=1560527183&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&th=1 - now i wonder if this is ok for Ubuntu, but i also wonder how we choose the RAID type, is there a need for specific software on the OS side?
[15:57] <akem> I think maybe the RAID type selection is done using the switch buttons on the box itself.
[15:57] <CoJaBo> akem: It's software raid in most of those I've seen
[15:57] <CoJaBo> RAID with USB disks may be flaky and/or slow, tho
[15:58] <akem> CoJaBo, software as in installing a driver on Windows? so it may be complicated on Ubuntu :/
[15:59] <CoJaBo> akem: It would just appear as 2 drives in Ubuntu, and you'd use the builtin RAID
[15:59] <akem> CoJaBo, i don't really mind the speed, i want it for mirroring.
[16:00] <CoJaBo> akem: The concern is mainly if the USB enclosure or connection flakes, it can potentially mess up the RAID. It should still protect you from drive failures tho.
[16:00] <budgester>        dpkg: error processing package libssl1.1:amd64 (--configure):
[16:00] <budgester>         installed libssl1.1:amd64 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 10
[16:00] <budgester> Are there any current recent issues with
[16:00] <akem> CoJaBo, Ok i see, so it's pointless for me, i rather use 2 normal drives connected, it'd be the same.
[16:01] <CoJaBo> Probably not a good idea to use it as a sole copy of your data in any case; if the filesystem is corrupt or stuff is deleted by accident, RAID in general wouldn't protect against that
[16:01] <budgester> How would I go about fixing that libssl issue ?
[16:01] <budgester> On 18.04
[16:01] <tomreyn> budgester: is this yours? bug 1832801
[16:02] <CoJaBo> akem: If you did want to RAID 2 USB drives for some reason, given it probably won't add a whole lot of protection, it'd be cheaper to get a dual-disk enclosure without claiming RAID support.
[16:02] <budgester> tomreyn: nope...
[16:02] <budgester> But I'll have a read.
[16:02] <CoJaBo> (That, or just plug in 2 of them, which might be even cheaper lol)
[16:02] <CoJaBo> akem: A better option, if you're using this for backups, would be to get 2 disks and rotate them
[16:03] <CoJaBo> That way if one fails catastropicially, you still have the other completely untouched
[16:03] <akem> CoJaBo, Yeah that's what i was doing until now.
[16:03] <akem> I think i'll continue like that for now.
[16:03] <jil> sorry I was disconnected, hope I didn't miss a reply to my question
[16:04] <akem> CoJaBo, Thanks.
[16:04] <CoJaBo> akem: That way is better, because a software SNAFU won't kill both your disks
[16:04] <CoJaBo> So RAID would be a downgrade in resiliance in this case lol
[16:05] <akem> CoJaBo, Yeah, will keep a drive unplugged, and rotate it once in a while, it's safer.
[16:08] <tomreyn> jil: what'S the output of this?    nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[16:08] <tomreyn> ...just trying to get some info on your ubuntu installation
[16:11] <kazdax> how do i kill a process in ubuntu ?
[16:12] <tomreyn> "kill PID" where PID is the process ID
[16:13] <tomreyn> the porcess ID is listed by "ps" and can also be searched for using pgrep / pkill
[16:14] <blackflow> (which by default sends SIGTERM, so specify -s KILL if you need SIGKILL)
[16:14] <jack> yeah, i always do kill -9
[16:14] <tomreyn> the signal(7) man page explains which signals can be sent.
[16:16] <t3rminal> Hey folks
[16:16] <vavkamil> hello
[16:16] <hggdh> kill -9 is an extreme solution. Ideally one should simply kill; if nothing happens, then kill -9
[16:16] <t3rminal> I want to login to my server using ssh and run a command then then disconnect whilst leaving that command running.
[16:17] <tomreyn> !nohup
[16:17] <tomreyn> use the "nohup" command, or a temrinal multiplexer
[16:17] <jack> hggdh, true that
[16:17] <t3rminal> I have used screen in the past but i remember reading that there was a better command but i cant remember what it was.
[16:18] <SmashShock> Hi all! I make a ca certificate for my nginx webserver, and issued certificates to users. I have a .pem and .key for each user. I also have the keys packaged into a .pfx if needed. How would I go about installing the keypair into a client Ubuntu system so they can access my secured subdomain? Is it per application? Would I need to install the keys into Firefox and other web accessing apps? What about something like curl or wget? Thanks!
[16:18] <t3rminal> does anyone have an idea what the command might be?
[16:18] <tomreyn> t3rminal: what i just said was directed to you
[16:18] <t3rminal> tomreyn, nohup?
[16:18] <tomreyn> t3rminal: yes?
[16:19] <SmashShock> If it helps, I'm using secp384r1 as my ECC curve
[16:20] <blackflow> SmashShock: being your own CA has no security benefits as long as your clients also accept other CAs. you're much better off using a free, automated provider like LetsEncrypt.
[16:20] <tomreyn> SmashShock: is your goal to use TLS client authentication then?
[16:21] <t3rminal> thanks tomreyn
[16:21] <tomreyn> you're welcome, t3rminal
[16:24] <sentiment> suddenly one of the keyboard keys in the national layout mode stopped working!
[16:24] <sentiment> what is the keyboard mapping file used by x11?
[16:25] <sentiment> searching for "linux x11 keyboard mapping file" yields no useful results
[16:26] <netcrash> Hello, how can I know which dns my ubuntu is using . My nix is 18.04.02
[16:27] <netcrash> dnstracer returns to 127.0.0.53
[16:27] <sentiment> install dnsutils
[16:27] <SimonNL> eraserpencil:   did you succeed ?
[16:27] <netcrash> dig ? already have it
[16:28] <blackflow> sentiment: they'd be somewhere under /usr/share/X11/xkb/ depending on which map is set
[16:28] <tomreyn> netcrash: systemd-resolve --status
[16:28] <sentiment> blackflow: is there a standard spec definition for the paths in linux?
[16:29] <sentiment> like, I know in Windows, I need to look under program files folder for program binaries
[16:29] <tomreyn> !fhs | sentiment
[16:29] <sentiment> cool, this way I can find my way around easier
[16:29] <untoreh> hello gio "Not authorized to perform operation"
[16:30] <untoreh> polkit might be messed up i think?
[16:30] <eraserpencil> SimonNL, I've decided on not overthinking it and dropping auto connect for the wifi connection i use less oftern (weaker strength)
[16:30] <blackflow> sentiment: that "standard" is loosely being followed by distros
[16:30] <t3rminal> tomreyn, is it safe to use 'control + c' to get back to the command prompt once i've used the nohup command?
[16:30] <SimonNL> eraserpencil: good idea that show work I think
[16:30] <sentiment> why loosely? :-(
[16:30] <SimonNL> should*
[16:31] <blackflow> sentiment: especially now with containerization, LSB promises are being broken left and right.
[16:31] <sentiment> and where is the keymaps file in that dir? I can't seem to find it
[16:31] <sentiment> should be under symbols, but it isn't
[16:32] <sentiment> found it
[16:32] <sentiment> not sure what the heck went wrong
[16:32] <sentiment> I was about to write a doc and now I am here trying to fix the freakin problem
[16:33] <sentiment> well I'm going to reboot now, it might get fixed on its own
[16:36] <SmashShock> blackflow, tomreyn: This is for client-side certificates, the clients are authenticating with the server to access resources
[16:36] <SmashShock> I have TLS issues by LetsEncrypt :)
[16:38] <SmashShock> issued*
[16:39] <netcrash> tomreyn: the dns servers are correct but it doesn't solve the address
[16:40] <blackflow> SmashShock: in that case you don't install CAs on your clients machines, you only give them the certs they have to configure their applications (like Firefox) specifically for this purpose.
[16:40] <netcrash> tomreyn: issueing a dig it solved the hostname
[16:40] <netcrash> tomreyn: dig I mean directly to the dns server
[16:40] <blackflow> netcrash: is it a .local name?
[16:41] <netcrash> blackflow: no
[16:42] <blackflow> netcrash: so what exactly is the problem?
[16:43] <ChadTaljaardt> Hello, I have a script which provisions a server for use, and today i found that the script wasnt working and upon further inspection this is the issue i am getting: https://i.imgur.com/qdtlviV.png
[16:43] <ChadTaljaardt> this is the command causing the issue sudo apt-get install -yq python3-pip
[16:43] <blackflow> SmeshSheck: you got that last part from me?
[16:43] <ChadTaljaardt> i have these set as well export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[16:43] <ChadTaljaardt> export DEBCONF_NONINTERACTIVE_SEEN=true
[16:44] <ChadTaljaardt> is there a way to avoid getting this prompt
[16:44] <ikanobori> Google's thing is weird.
[16:44] <ikanobori> Mistell :)
[16:44] <netcrash> blackflow: locally the dns hostname is not solved , if I poing to the dns server i should be using , it works. My resolv.conf is written by network-manager
[16:44] <blackflow> ChadTaljaardt: DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive should've prevented it. you sure you exported it correctly? the export is valid only for that shell
[16:45] <ChadTaljaardt> it is all within the same script file
[16:45] <ChadTaljaardt> so i assume that it should work
[16:46] <blackflow> ChadTaljaardt: are you perchance calling sudo from that script?
[16:46] <ChadTaljaardt> blackflow yes
[16:47] <blackflow> ChadTaljaardt: so then each sudo call is a subprocess/subshell that won't see your export
[16:47] <SmeshSheck> blackflow, unfortunately not, sorry!
[16:47] <blackflow> ChadTaljaardt: reall run the script itself via sudo
[16:47] <blackflow> SmeshSheck: in that case you don't install CAs on your clients machines, you only give them the certs they have to configure their applications (like Firefox) specifically for this purpose.
[16:47] <ChadTaljaardt> okay
[16:48] <ChadTaljaardt> blackflow so if i remove sudo inside the script and then call the script itself with sudo it should work?
[16:48] <blackflow> SmeshSheck: check Preferences in Firefox, tab Security, then at the bottom click View Certificates. Click the "your Certificates" tab, and there's an Import button. that's what your clients will have to do with the cert you give them
[16:48] <blackflow> ChadTaljaardt: yes
[16:50] <jonfen> I am using a desktop and a laptop by unplugging the usb-c input from this dock: https://us.targus.com/products/usb-c-universal-quad-hd-docking-station-dock520usz
[16:50] <SmeshSheck> Fantastic! Just wanted to make sure there wasn't a linux tool or storage path for client keys and certs
[16:50] <SmeshSheck> Thanks blackflow
[16:51] <jonfen> how do i force gnome to use a specific display for the initial login?
[16:51] <blackflow> SmeshSheck: no, it's application specific,  unlike CAs stored under /etc/ssl/, but that's openssl's path and apps are using openssl to verify certs. this is the other way around, so app specific.
[16:51] <jonfen> right now it is not defaulting to the usb dock monitors, it is defaulting to the motherboard outputs
[16:52] <SmeshSheck> Gotcha! Sweet, thanks :)
[16:52] <jonfen> so i can't see the login, but when i plug into the motherboard output, i can log in and then everything else works
[17:10] <tomreyn> t3rminal: it should not be needed. after running a command with nohup, control should be returned to the shell and you should be able to continue working.
[17:13] <tomreyn> netcrash: if you run "systemd-resolve FQDN", replacing 'FQDN' by the fully qualified domain name you're trying to resolve, what's the output?
[17:13] <tomreyn> netcrash: are you actually trying to resolve a FQDN or just a hostname, expecting a search domain to be appended?
[17:20] <SuperLag> So as of 18.04, the tested version of python is 3.6 - and that's what you get out of the box, but 3.7 is also in the repos. If you want to use 3.7, is the proper way to do it by installing the 3.7* package and using update-alternatives to point to that version?
[17:23] <tomreyn> SuperLag: i'm not sure whether /etc/alternatives switching is enabled automatically, but you could do it manually for python3, i guess.
[17:23] <tomreyn> other than that python3.7 will be in PATH
[17:24] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install python3.7 , and the command to set 3.7 automatic https://jcutrer.com/linux/upgrade-python37-ubuntu1810
[17:25] <OerHeks> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python3 python3 /usr/bin/python3.7 2 ## sudo update-alternatives --config python3 ## and select 3.7
[17:26] <SuperLag> thank you, gentlemen
[17:27] <OerHeks> have fun!
[17:44] <engammalsko> i'm launching an ec2 instance with some userdata running apt-get install, however when I SSH into the instance, there's something holding the lock file, so I tried running the commands manually directly through ssh instead, and i don't get that issue anymore
[17:44] <engammalsko> however, i get this when i do apt-get install ruby: https://puu.sh/DFZcI/63d2ecfe4f.png
[17:46] <tomreyn> engammalsko: so, what's the issue you're trying to solve, if any?
[17:46] <engammalsko> i'd like to bypass this prompt or somehow select yes/no through the commandline
[17:47] <engammalsko> tomreyn:
[17:48] <engammalsko> these are the command: https://pastebin.com/r0DCiVLG
[17:49] <sarnold> hahahaha
[17:49] <sarnold> I went to another desktop to look up how to address that, and sure enough, a terminal on that desktop was sitting on that exact screen :)
[17:50] <sarnold> engammalsko: try DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive before all those apt-get commands
[17:50] <tomreyn> you can dpkg-preconfigure or use DEBIAN_FRONTEND=readline or DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[17:50] <pinPoint> what is the best way of disabling all intel mitigation updates in ubuntu 18.04?
[17:51] <sarnold> pinPoint: kernel command line, https://make-linux-fast-again.com/
[17:51] <sarnold> (there may be an easier method, but I'm not sure if it's shipped yet)
[17:57] <pinPoint> sarnold: thank you, I'll check that out in a moment.
[17:58] <pinPoint> sarnold: question. Where do I input those? In a kernel config somewhere?
[17:58] <sarnold> pinPoint: /etc/default/grub
[18:01] <nitzicuile> Hi ppl. I was here yesterday. I was having problems with do-release-upgrade (18.11 -> 19.04). I was using Dspace with Tomcat8. I already installed Tomcat9 and Dspace is working. The problem is SOLR, it seems that something is not right. The connection with postgresql is ok, but Dspace can't show data due to SOLR fail. ¿Any idea?
[18:02] <nitzicuile> s/18.11/18.10
[18:02] <tomreyn> no one will be able to help you debug "something is not right"
[18:03] <tomreyn> provide error logs on a pastebin
[18:03] <tomreyn> note there is also #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <nitzicuile> https://pastebin.com/pjTk9W4P
[18:08] <kazdax> i cant fucking run jupyter notebook
[18:08] <kazdax> and i had it installed
[18:09] <kazdax> people are like install and then put in jupyter notebook and wallah magically its working on their systems
[18:09] <kazdax> not mine
[18:09] <BluesKaj_> !language | kazdax
[18:09] <lordcirth> kazdax, how are you installing it?
[18:10] <kazdax> i used the py file that came with the installer that was 650 mb
[18:10] <kazdax> i installed it the way it was in the instal instructions
[18:10] <kazdax> using bash ~ directory anaconda6.py
[18:11] <kazdax> is python a good language for data sciences ?
[18:11] <lordcirth> kazdax, as that's not part of Ubuntu, you should probably check the jupyter docs or help channels
[18:11] <lordcirth> !alis | kazdax
[18:11] <OerHeks> jupyter notebook is not in our repos, sure you find answers https://jupyter.org/documentation
[18:13] <kazdax> its funny because i do the exact thing they say .. well maybe i should just use the IDE
[18:13] <kazdax> pyCharm in this case
[18:14] <kazdax> ill try installing it again ..
[18:38] <NTQ> How can I install firmware updates for my SATA controller when I only get a Windows executable? Do I really need to install Windows to do this shit? :-D
[18:40] <OerHeks> NTQ, check the vendors website, maybe a freedos iso will do
[18:40] <longus_catus> No, you can probably use a windows pe image
[18:40] <OerHeks> or the bios update routine, could read that exe..
[18:41] <NTQ> OerHeks: The vendor itself seems not to offer any updates. It's this one: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9230 PCIe SATA 6Gb/s Controller (rev 11)
[18:42] <NTQ> I only found this driver which is newer than mine: https://station-drivers.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=352&func=fileinfo&id=3146&lang=en
[18:42] <NTQ> The version on my controller ist 2.3.0.1053
[18:43] <NTQ> longus_catus: Windows PE sounds good. I try to find that.
[18:43] <OerHeks> we do have a wiki, but that does not include controllers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[18:44] <NTQ> OerHeks: I know but unfortunality this is a controller.
[18:47] <NTQ> It seems that I need Windows to create a Windows PE boot stick. WTF. I do not own any Windows
[18:48] <NTQ> Now looking for some ready-to-run images
[18:59] <Boyette> hi
[18:59] <lordcirth> Boyette, hi
[18:59] <Boyette> hi
[19:04] <Boyette> skypeforlinux does that not exist anymore?
[19:06] <leftyfb> Boyette: sudo snap install skype
[19:06] <Boyette> yes i did that once
[19:07] <Boyette> but i cant update it anymore
[19:07] <Boyette> seems
[19:07] <leftyfb> Boyette: why do you need to update it?
[19:08] <Boyette> because there is a problem
[19:08] <Boyette> and i hope an update will solve it
[19:09] <Boyette> if i receive a pic for example.. and i click on SAVE AS
[19:09] <Boyette> the app will crash
[19:12] <OerHeks> install the latest? https://snapcraft.io/skype > sudo snap install skype --channel=insider/stable --classic
[19:18] <coconut> OerHeks are more and more apps transferred from repo to snap store these days? (seeing i cannot find skype with apt-cache search)
[19:21] <OerHeks> prop software is, indeed
[19:22] <OerHeks> i want a plugin for synaptic , to filter on deb/snap/flatpack/appimage..
[19:23] <Gallomimia> hello. looking to disable and also shred my swap file. i seem to forget how to do that. permanenly. ubuntu vanilla 19
[19:23] <coconut> OerHeks: prop?
[19:23] <OerHeks> property software
[19:23] <OerHeks> closed source/funny license
[19:25] <OerHeks> Gallomimia, swapoff > sudo swapoff /swapfile       snd put a # in fstab , then you can sudo rm -f /swapfile
[19:25] <OerHeks> assuming this is 18.04 standard with swapfile, not partition
[19:25] <Gallomimia> thanks
[19:25] <Gallomimia> no it's 19
[19:25] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: "ubuntu 19" is not a version of Ubuntu
[19:25] <OerHeks> 18.04 and up*
[19:25] <Gallomimia> got interrupted typing it. trust me it's not 19.10
[19:27] <Gallomimia> is there a built in file shredder i can use?
[19:27] <Gallomimia> the reason to stop using it is for security. keys of crypto and all.
[19:27] <hggdh> Gallomimia: shred
[19:27] <Gallomimia> that's a pretty good name.
[19:28] <hggdh> Gallomimia: note that if you have it in SSD, YMMV, since SSDs usually move data around
[19:28] <Gallomimia> it is not an ssd
[19:28] <Gallomimia> much thanks for the warning tho
[19:29] <Gallomimia> my ssd's are encrypted and will be housing the swap and cache, soon as i get that configured
[19:30] <OerHeks> oh, then removing the swapfile is enough
[19:30] <Gallomimia> shred complete
[19:30] <OerHeks> oh, not on *that* ssd..
[19:30] <Gallomimia> 2gb swap file on 16gb of ram. yeah... that was useful
[19:31] <Gallomimia> operations complete. thanks again all
[19:31] <OerHeks> have fun!
[19:32] <Boyette> snap "skype" is already installed, see 'snap help refresh'
[19:45] <coconut> Boyette what did sudo snap refresh give you? If it tells you no update available, try sudo snap refresh --candidate #then.
[19:46] <Boyette> All snaps up to date.
[19:46] <ioria>  Boyette, if snap ver it's not working (for your specific needs, is indeed a classic conf ), i'd suggest the .deb file from the skype website
[19:46] <Boyette> but skype gives a message
[19:46] <coconut> Boyette try to candidate skype into your system then
[19:46] <Boyette> A new update is available install the latest version in your package manager
[19:47] <ivoadf> Hi there, I am having a weird issue with my external mouse. I am using ubuntu 18.10 with the i3 window manager. I am running the Tibia game (you can find it on tibia.com) and when I drag an item around the screen when using my touchpad all is well but when I try to do the exact same action but with my external mouse the fps drop like crazy and I even get disconnected from the game if I keep dragging the item for too long.
[19:47] <ivoadf> I am inclined to believe this is some misconfiguration of some sort of the external mouse because I can not replicate it using the touchpad. I haven't tested it with another mouse. I know the game uses the Qt framework. Do any of you have an idea of what might be going on or what step I can take to get more information about the issue? Appreciate the help. Thanks.
[19:49] <joetakagi_> Hello
[19:51] <Jonta> joetakagi_: Hi
[19:51] <joetakagi_> Wifi on ubuntu 18.04.2 lts, on a certain network, in dmesg I see "deautenticating from MAC ADDRESS by local choice (Reason: 3=deauth_leaving)
[19:52] <joetakagi_> So I'm unable to access internet on a laptop via wifi.
[19:52] <joetakagi_> Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't; maybe if I leave it alone, in a few hours from now, it will start working.
[19:59] <Gallomimia> ivoadf, how is this mouse connected??
[20:00] <ivoadf> usb directly into my laptop
[20:01] <Gallomimia> that;s a very odd thing. does the game have an option to turn off/on hardware mouse?
[20:02] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: which chipset is it?
[20:02] <spratle> hello channel, need advice. Usb wifi stick/dongle for use in *ubuntu or linux based OS. Already have a D-link DWA-182 H/w Ver. D1 F/W. 4.00. Have tried the "googles" but no luck. Ubuntu 18.04
[20:02] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: and what's the other end (AP)?
[20:03] <ivoadf> @Gallomimia, as far as I know the only option is related to mouse pointer. To use the game pointer or the native pointer I tried both option and the behaviour is the same.
[20:03] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: intel 7260
[20:03] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: I'm not sure how to tell what the AP is, perhaps you can offer some guidance.
[20:03] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: if it's only an issue on this very network but not others then most likely the AP will be to blame.
[20:04] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: unfortunately I haven't physical access to it.
[20:04] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: you could walk there and check the label, or tell us the first three bytes of its mac address
[20:04] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: and yes, that's true. Otherwise this laptop works without issue.
[20:05] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: mac address = 78:8a:20
[20:05] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: it could also be a weak signal, how far are you from it?
[20:05] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: I'm less than 10m from the ap.
[20:06] <tomreyn> that's an ubiquity MAC for the AP
[20:06] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: signal level reading is -64dBm
[20:06] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: Yes, it has a U on it.
[20:07] <tomreyn> those are usually good and compatible https://www.ui.com/products/
[20:08] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: do you have bluetooth enabled?
[20:08] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: on the laptop, no.
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> spratle: most chipsets work good on ubuntu, maybe avoid realtek
[20:08] <glick> hey does anyone know how to fix a crackling and popping sound when i connect my bluetooth headphones?
[20:10] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: please post the url returned by    dmesg | grep iwl | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:11] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: occi
[20:12] <spratle> lotuspsychje, I know, but can not get it to work. lsusb detects it, but no luck. Hmm. Maybe it is faulty hardware. I'll try a few more times, then return it, if I can't get it to work. Thx.
[20:12] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: also this    nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[20:14] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: unexpected token near (
[20:15] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: you'll have an extra space somewhere. can you not copy and paste it?
[20:15] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: wait... got it. 8hs0
[20:17] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: and    modinfo -F firmware iwlwifi | grep 7260    returns iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode ?
[20:17] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: yes
[20:18] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: hmm ok so it's using the right firmware, i'm not sure what else to try if the deauthenticating... message is the only one you have.
[20:18] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: since this is specific to this AP only, i suggest you check (or have its admin check) the ubiquity's logs.
[20:19] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: is there a chance I could access the logs from the laptop?
[20:20] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: depends on the exact product, and how it provides access to logs, and whether you have credentials to access them. but that's no longer ubuntu support...
[20:21] <tomreyn> there is most likely some wireless networking or even ubiquity channel on freenode
[20:21] <tomreyn> !alis
[20:23] <glick> hi, whats the best way to restart the pulseaudio daemon?
[20:24] <joetakagi_> tomreyn: thanks.
[20:25] <OerHeks>  there is only one way i guess, man pulseaudio
[20:26] <longus_catus> pkill -9 pulseaudio
[20:26] <tomreyn> joetakagi_: you'Re welcome, good luck.
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> spratle: you could debug with dmesg or journal logs, see what happens there
[20:30] <Forty-3> OerHeks: he left immediately lol
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> Forty-3: not everyone has joins& parts enabled
[20:31] <Forty-3> fwiw the best way is something like systemctl --user restart pulseaudio
[20:31] <Forty-3> lotuspsychje: they should...
[20:31] <Milencho> hi guys, anyone who is playing/using steam for dota 2
[20:31] <Forty-3> yes
[20:31] <Milencho> i have some problems with VAC
[20:32] <spratle> lotuspsychje, I think I found the flaw. Me.
[20:35] <Milencho> anyone ?
[20:37] <kinghat> how do you get the applications/activities via super key to find open apps on different monitors?
[20:37] <Jonopoly> i have a big sad news :(
[20:37] <OerHeks> there is a ##dota2 and #ubuntu-steam channel here on #freenode too
[20:37] <Jonopoly> i cant install ubuntu without acpi=off
[20:37] <Jonopoly> i dont know what acpi is... but i want it !
[20:37] <Milencho> OerHeks lots of thanks
[20:38] <vincenthalexande> ACPI has to do with power management.
[20:39] <kinghat> or if i have a workspace span my displays how do i get access to the other displays windows/applications
[20:40] <acresearch> people, i am trying to install ubuntu,, but i am getting an error: the attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI1 (0,0,0,), partition #1 (sda) at /boot/efi failed.     what can i do? the installer crashed
[20:41] <vincenthalexande> You probably won't be able to suspend your computer and it will use more power when ACPI is off. I don't specifically know the solution to your problem, but I found this Ask Ubuntu post which may help lead you to a solution: "https://askubuntu.com/questions/240293/my-laptop-only-boots-with-the-acpi-off-parameter-how-can-i-fix-this".
[20:42] <mallu> can someone please take a look at this iptables and let me know why network time sync doesn't work and stuck in a loop? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FmhzRXCFzb/
[20:42] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | Jonopoly: see if it boots fine without acpi=off but with these options: https://make-linux-fast-again.com/ here's how to set them
[20:42] <jeremy31> acresearch: Post URL from terminal for> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:42] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[20:43] <acresearch> jeremy31: i can't
[20:43] <acresearch> it is the installer
[20:43] <jeremy31> acresearch: Can't you open a terminal windows from the installer?
[20:44] <vincenthalexande> acresearch, press CTRL + ALT + T.
[20:44] <acresearch> jeremy31: let me try   1 moment
[20:45] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: actually try without acpi=off but with   dis_ucode_ldr
[20:46] <acresearch> jeremy31: how can i paste terminal output from the installer?
[20:46] <mallu> Ubuntu 18.04 when I add  iptables -P INPUT DROP and reboot, the server try connecting to network time sync and stuck in a loop. At that point the only way to get in is to restore from vmware snapshot
[20:46] <mallu> Any help would be appreciated
[20:47] <jeremy31> acresearch: does sudo parted -l show sda1 as fat32 EFI System Partition with flags boot, esp?
[20:47] <QByte> hello all
[20:47] <acresearch> jeremy31: wait,   i can't open the terminal
[20:48] <acresearch> control alt t   does nothing at the momen
[20:48] <heywoodlh> mallu why are you doing `iptables -P INPUT DROP`?
[20:48] <jeremy31> acresearch: Was this manually partitioned?
[20:48] <heywoodlh> Like what's your end goal?
[20:48] <mallu> heywoodlh: security requirement
[20:48] <acresearch> jsimmons: no
[20:48] <acresearch> i chose erase and install
[20:49] <acresearch> i have windows on a macbook pro
[20:49] <mallu> heywoodlh: here are my rules https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FmhzRXCFzb/
[20:49] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: What's that? do i add it in the same place??
[20:51] <jeremy31> acresearch: Try a reboot, try Ubuntu without installing and see what the result is for sudo parted -l
[20:51] <acresearch> jeremy31: ok 1 moment
[20:51] <acresearch> oh yeh    i have to hard reset because reboot does not work
[20:52] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: yes, you add it in the same place. dis_ucode_ldr skips cpu microcode updates during early boot. (only) a few systems have had issues with the latest intel microcodes, maybe yours is one of them.
[20:53] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: I'm running on a laptop - it isn't damaging is it? Also how do i find out my 'acpi' specs? maybe i can post somewhere
[20:53] <Jonopoly> in hope of a future development patch
[20:53] <heywoodlh> mallu yeah, I'm not sure why that isn't working
[20:53]  * Jonopoly fingers crossed
[20:54] <acresearch> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/5cg1
[20:54] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: i have a feeling we discussed this before, but i don't rememberany details of your configuration or hardware. you can share them again if you like.
[20:54] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: this tells us your ubuntu version:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[20:55] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: also explain what happens when you try to boot without acpi=off
[20:55] <jeremy31> acresearch: The file system is wrong for the EFI sytem partition, it needs to be fat 32
[20:55] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: I'm on windows atm i'll get my specs, I litterally just got ubuntu (latest) https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?country=GB&version=18.04.2&architecture=amd64
[20:56] <acresearch> jeremy31: the HDD or the USB?
[20:56] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: If i don't have acpi=off it never boots it freezes on 'splashscreen?'
[20:56] <jeremy31> acresearch: The 750GB HDD
[20:56] <acresearch> jeremy31: how do i erase it?
[20:57] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: ok, so the installer freezes? then just install with acpi=off and then see if you can boot the installed system without it
[20:57] <jeremy31> acresearch: You might be able to use Gparted now to change it from ntfs to fat32
[20:57] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: feels very risky - trying to boot from usb :( to make sure works fine
[20:57] <acresearch> jeremy31: hmmm
[20:58] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: what's risky there?
[20:58] <raininja> booting from usb is "risky?""
[20:58] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: no, i don't want to install incase it doesn't work then i'll need to format laptop to remove grub
[20:59]  * raininja holds his tongue, er. fingers
[20:59] <Jonopoly> i just don't think my laptop might be compatiable (ElementaryOS) works.. >_>
[20:59] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: that's also a linux distro. then ubuntu should work, too, if the kernel version is similar
[21:00] <Jonopoly> Ah, i've only tried once.. so it might be a "sometimes works, sometimes doesn't"
[21:00] <jeremy31> Jonopoly: I don't know how Ubuntu could not be compatible when Elementary is based on Ubuntu
[21:00] <Jonopoly> What information do i need to get in hope ubuntu-dev could add my 'kernal?'
[21:01] <tomreyn> i don't understand this question
[21:01] <acresearch> jeremy31: now i have a different error:  cannot copy to HDD
[21:01] <acresearch> inputouput error
[21:02] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: i've seen comments online about it being kernal-releated or gpu related...
[21:02] <jeremy31> acresearch: in Gparted, click on the hamburger menu, top right of the window and look at SMART tests
[21:03] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: that's too unspecific for me to comment on, i'm afraid.
[21:03] <acresearch> jeremy31: sorry, i don't know where is gparted, i just erased the HDD using disks from the live usb
[21:03] <acresearch> jeremy31: where is gparted?
[21:03] <jeremy31> acresearch: search Dash for Gparted on Live USB, it should be there
[21:03] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: okay, i'll try your thing instead of acpi=off
[21:04] <Jonopoly> gonna retry ubuntu and elementary and xubuntu see what happens...
[21:04] <Jonopoly> logging out.
[21:04] <vincenthalexande> Just get a Thinkpad. ;)
[21:04] <acresearch> jeremy31: ok found it
[21:04] <acresearch> sda1 and sda2
[21:05] <jeremy31> acresearch: ctrl + s might be the shortcut to SMART data in gpartes
[21:05] <acresearch> ctl-s did nothing
[21:06] <acresearch> jeremy31: i looked at all the menu options
[21:06] <acresearch> no smart test
[21:06] <jeremy31> acresearch: Sorry, try Disks program for SMART test
[21:06] <acresearch> jeremy31: ok
[21:07] <acresearch> jeremy31: ok testing short test
[21:09] <acresearch> jeremy31: everything seems to be fine, i don't see any errors
[21:11] <jeremy31> acresearch: try installing again in automatic settings, erase disk.  I haven't seen Ubuntu try using an EFI system partion with ntfs file system before, even Windows 10 doesn't do that
[21:11] <acresearch> jeremy31: but i think this is what i have been doing, using erase on automatic install
[21:12] <vincenthalexande> The EFI system partition needs to be FAT.
[21:13] <acresearch> vincenthalexande: how can i accomplish that?
[21:13] <jeremy31> acresearch: I haven't ever seen Ubuntu or Linux Mint try installing that way, if it happens again, I would file a bug report
[21:14] <acresearch> jeremy31: now i am having a new error,   eventhough i haven't changed anything,    ubi-partmsn crashed,   what is going on?
[21:15] <jeremy31> acresearch: You might want to use gparted and delete the existing partitions before trying to install again
[21:15] <acresearch> jeremy31: ok let me try
[21:16] <acresearch> jeremy31: gparted won't let me delete the etx4 patritio
[21:16] <acresearch> n
[21:16] <jeremy31> acresearch: Reboot and delete them as the installer may have mounted the partitions
[21:16] <acresearch> /dev/sda2
[21:17] <acresearch> ok
[21:19] <acresearch> jeremy31: select partition table?  msdos?
[21:20] <jeremy31> acresearch: Just delete the partitions and then use the installer, you likely want GPT partitioning with EFI
[21:21] <acresearch> ok
[21:25] <acresearch> jeremy31: still same error, input/output error   cannot write to HDD
[21:25] <acresearch> i think i messed up my computer
[21:26] <acresearch> it says to clean my CD/DVD  but i am using a USB
[21:27] <jeremy31> acresearch: Did you verify the ISO?
[21:27] <acresearch> jeremy31: yes
[21:27] <acresearch> same iso i used to install ubuntu on the same computer 2 weeks ago
[21:28] <jeremy31> acresearch: So why the need to reinstall?
[21:28] <acresearch> jeremy31: i wanted a fresh ubuntu
[21:28] <acresearch> :-(
[21:28] <acresearch> now i have a broken laptop
[21:29] <jeremy31> acresearch: search google for the exact error and see if there is a fix
[21:30] <acresearch> oh
[21:35] <acresearch> jeremy31: what command should i use for fsck -c /dev/sda1?
[21:35] <acresearch> the ubuntu forum just says to use fsck -c /dev/sda1
[21:35] <jeremy31> maybe just that to begin with
[21:36] <acresearch> jeremy31: but that tell me to use a command
[21:36] <acresearch> command (m for help):
[21:36] <sarnold> acresearch: have you pasted your dmesg anywhere?
[21:36] <acresearch> sarnold: no,   how?
[21:37] <sarnold> acresearch: sounds like you may hve run fdisk instead of fsck
[21:37] <acresearch> sarnold: all i have is an error 5 input/output error
[21:37] <Bashing-om> acresearch: sda1 maybe be NON ext4 ,, make sure of the target. fsck defaults to checking ext file systems.
[21:37] <sarnold> acresearch: dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:38] <jeremy31> Bashing-om: /dev/sda1 at one time was esp with ntfs instead of fat32
[21:39] <Bashing-om> jeremy31: :) .. Then we do not want to fsck sda1, right ?
[21:39] <acresearch> sarnold: https//termbin.com/y8v6
[21:39] <jeremy31> Bashing-om: It is already messed up, has input/output errors
[21:42] <Jonopoly> didn't work :(
[21:42] <sarnold> acresearch: hmmm.. have you tried memtest86 on this system yet?
[21:42] <acresearch> sarnold: command not found
[21:42] <sarnold> acresearch: it should be a boot option from the install disc
[21:42] <Jonopoly> With acpi not working properly - how do i fix it?
[21:43] <EriC^^> acresearch: it has to be a non uefi boot, it'll be in your grub too if its a legacy install
[21:43] <acresearch> sarnold: let me try
[21:44] <acresearch> sarnold: there is no memtest86 in the installer
[21:44] <jeremy31> Bashing-om: Original problem was people, i am trying to install ubuntu,, but i am getting an error: the attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI1 (0,0,0,), partition #1 (sda) at /boot/efi failed.     what can i do? the installer crashed
[21:44] <EriC^^> acresearch: you have to boot it in legacy mode not uefi
[21:44] <acresearch> anyway   i have to go to sleep,      is my computer ruined or can i put windows back on it?
[21:44] <sarnold> acresearch: it'd be best to get memtest86 running before you go to bed, it takes HOURS to run
[21:44] <jeremy31> EriC^^: Is that possible on Apple equipment
[21:45] <Bashing-om> Jonopoly: ACPI ; laptop ? might try updating the DSDT - http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html .
[21:45] <gogeta> you can install memtester
[21:45] <sarnold> acresearch: the boot menu with 'live image' and two or three other choices probably has another menu to open in order to see memtest86
[21:46] <Jonopoly> Bashing-om: yeah laptop ASUS FX505GM - will give that link a look
[21:46] <EriC^^> jeremy31: no idea, i guess
[21:46] <gogeta> 18.04 should have memtest86 installed
[21:46] <acresearch> sarnold: is there a button or shortcut i have to click?   its not in the menu
[21:46] <gogeta> should be a grub option
[21:47] <sarnold> acresearch: dang. it's been ages since I've seen the installer..
[21:47] <EriC^^> acresearch: i've told you twice already, memtest + uefi isnt there, it has to be booted in legacy mode
[21:47] <sarnold> EriC^^: really? I thought I'd run it myself in uefi
[21:47] <acresearch> EriC^^: how?
[21:47] <sarnold> I doubt you can boot mac in legacy
[21:47] <acresearch> how to boot in legacy?   before the menu there are no options
[21:47] <acresearch> to choose from
[21:47] <EriC^^> acresearch: then you can manually download a uefi compatible memtest and run it
[21:48] <Jonopoly> Bashing-om: I think that link is about adding acpi=off or acpi=windows.. which i didn't really wanna do..?
[21:48] <EriC^^> acresearch: https://www.memtest86.com/download.htm
[21:48] <gogeta> https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-test-the-ram-on-linux
[21:49] <gogeta> wile not is powerfull as memtest86 that works on a installed system
[21:49] <acresearch> EriC^^: this is too complex for me,     anyway thanks guys  but i have to go to sleep
[21:49] <gogeta> see link
[21:49] <sarnold> EriC^^: wow :( thanks for the correction
[21:49] <EriC^^> acresearch: https://twocanoes.com/boot-camp-boot-process/
[21:50] <EriC^^> that's how to boot legacy mode on the mac ^
[21:50] <gogeta> https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-test-the-ram-on-linux
[21:50] <EriC^^> sarnold: yeah it's kinda odd, some politics issue or something
[21:53] <Bashing-om> Jonopoly: Jonopoly Well - the Differentiated Services Description Table (DSDT). This actually contains executable code in a special ACPI 'language' which the OS has to execute. Any change made can be reverted. The link gives a good ecplanation of what and why.
[21:53] <Bashing-om> explanation*
[22:10] <Yatekii> hi!
[22:10] <Yatekii> what am I doing wrong if I get errors like this: https://gist.github.com/Yatekii/d4a219d78895903c7c861cbb5652daae
[22:11] <gogeta> @Yatekii, that sounds like a dependsy is not in the repo
[22:11] <gogeta> well looks like
[22:12] <Yatekii> hmmm
[22:12] <Yatekii> I have no clue :/
[22:12] <Yatekii> that different repos and releases is so broken honestly
[22:14] <sarnold> Yatekii: gvfs 1.38.* is in cosmic. 1.40.* is in disco and eoan.. what distro do you think you're running? :)
[22:14] <gogeta> @Yatekii, what are you trying to install
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Yatekii: PPA ? what shows ' apt policy gvfs ' ?
[22:15] <Yatekii> sarnold: I'm running cosmic
[22:15] <Yatekii> and I added the repo for cosmic
[22:15] <Yatekii> gogeta: postgis & postgres
[22:16] <Yatekii> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/Yatekii/47a36dc579d08000ad102e200a93b1c5
[22:16] <Yatekii> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/UsersWikiPostGIS24UbuntuPGSQL10Apt following this
[22:16] <Yatekii> swapped xenial for cosmic ofc
[22:17] <nyex> hallo everyone :) i wonder if anyone here could give me a hint to solve my "problem". I have WAY too many fonts in my user's .font folder... i would like to try and clean up a little, but i can't seem to find an easier way other than opening one by one to check and then decide if I want to keep it or not.
[22:18] <nyex> i also have font manager installed. but it treats these fonts as "system fonts" and doesn't let me delete anything from there
[22:18] <Bashing-om> !info gvfs disco
[22:19] <sarnold> Yatekii: double check all your sources files in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -- you may have a very confused system :)
[22:25] <Yatekii> sarnold: everything in /etc/apt/sources.list is xenial
[22:25] <Yatekii> but I have cosmic
[22:26] <Yatekii> this is all so fucked up
[22:26] <sarnold> Yatekii: you have a very confused system :)
[22:26] <Yatekii> since I upgraded to cosmic everything is broken
[22:26] <Yatekii> does not sleep on lid closed and if I manually put it to sleep it will wake on lid close
[22:26] <Yatekii> etc
[22:27] <Yatekii> just everything got worse
[22:27] <Yatekii> and I hoped to get better battery life lol
[22:27] <Yatekii> what adumb hope
[22:27] <nyex> Yatekii, you can use Y PPA Manager to easily fix if the thing is PPAs (sorry, arriving late at the conversation)
[22:28] <sarnold> Yatekii: could you pastebin your apt policy output?
[22:29] <h1m3r4> i were have the same problem, before.
[22:29] <OerHeks> Yatekii, sounds like you just edited all entries to xenial, because you would have to go to bionic 18.04 first
[22:29] <OerHeks> time for a proper reinstall
[22:30] <sarnold> I suspect this is probably fixably with one or two sed -i commands, apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade, apt-get install -f, dpkg --configure -a
[22:30] <Yatekii> OerHeks: I did not edit anything. that's always the "easy explanation" assuming the user was dumb, not thinking that the system oneself wrote could be at fault.
[22:31] <Yatekii> sarnold: https://gist.github.com/Yatekii/e0c9ae3ffd76a65f08ab8fc3d5fb04f9 here :)
[22:32] <sarnold> Yatekii: not a single 'xenial' in there
[22:32] <sarnold> Yatekii: could you double-check that you ran that on the machine you thought you did, and double-check that the apt sources.list you inspected earlier was on the system in question too? :)
[22:33] <Yatekii> sarnold: nvm I am dumb I had alook at the commented lines in the sources.list  -.-
[22:33] <sarnold> aha, cool
[22:34] <sarnold> Yatekii: I think this should do the job: sudo sed -i 's/cosmic/disco/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[22:34] <Yatekii> apologies :/
[22:35] <Yatekii> but why is everything cosmic when I have disco? :/
[22:35] <Yatekii> uhm, other way round :/
[22:35] <Yatekii> have cosmic but everything is disco
[22:36] <sarnold> it sure feelsl like you've got disco :)
[22:37] <Yatekii> https://gist.github.com/Yatekii/06ec9265c5a1e134da7f6146a655cbd5 I aint no lying fuck ;P
[22:37] <Yatekii> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[22:37] <Yatekii>  ohwell :/ brb cleanin space
[22:38] <sarnold> Yatekii: okay.. you could spin that sed command around to change all the discos to cosmic..
[22:38] <sarnold> Yatekii: sudo sed -i 's/disco/cosmic/g' && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[22:39] <Yatekii> I di dalready :9
[22:39] <sarnold> :D
[22:39] <Yatekii> cleaned up now, upgrading stuff now :)
[22:40] <Yatekii> let's see that fixes it
[22:40] <Yatekii> that's all really od
[22:40] <Yatekii> *odd
[22:40] <Yatekii> also since the upgrad boot times are abysmal :/ at least 1minute :/
[22:41] <sarnold> *ouch*
[22:41] <Yatekii> sometimes gnome just freezes and then I have to power cycle :/ real weird
[22:41] <Yatekii> and this is a 2018 dell xps which has "official support" kek
[22:42] <Yatekii> thanks for all the help =)
[22:44] <wondows> why is my Ubuntu machine connected to the 2.4GHz wifi and the 5GHz?
[22:44] <wondows> *and not
[22:48] <jeremy31> wondows: Might be a better signal on 2.4
[22:49] <sarnold> does NM even try to find the 'best'? I've never looked into it, I've just always assumed to reconnects to whatever it was connected to most recently
[22:49] <wondows> jeremy31: I want to force 5G
[22:49] <wondows> it looks like it's one more thing that's impossible or too hard to do..
[22:50] <jeremy31> wondows: can you change the SSID on 2.4 GHz only and have auto connect in Network Manager for the 5GHz SSID?
[22:50] <Yatekii> sarnold: that was my feeling too
[22:51] <sarnold> if I'm right, it's as easy as disconnecting from 2.4, reconnecting to 5ghz, and hopefully it'll just work from then on
[22:52] <wondows> a previous router I had would provide two separate wifi networks for 2.4G and 5G but this one doesn't
[22:52] <wondows> it's just one
[22:53] <wondows> not sure if it can be configured to be like that
[22:53] <wondows> it's an Ubiquiti Unifi access point
[22:54] <jeremy31> wondows: any chance the 2.4 and 5GHz have different MAC addresses from the AP?
[22:58] <sarnold> oh *interesting*. I hadn't realized unifi .. well .. unified those
[22:59] <wondows> yeah looks like I can create an extra SSID and enable one radio only on it
[23:01] <jeremy31> wondows: That might be the easy solution
[23:07] <Yatekii> sarnold: worked like a charm to install postgres now, thanks a ton =)
[23:07] <wondows> nowthere's another problem.. the 5GHz wifi does not show up on Ubuntu...
[23:07] <sarnold> Yatekii: yay :)
[23:08] <sarnold> Yatekii: to track down the slow boots, look at the systemd-bootchart package
[23:08] <wondows> iwlist channel shows 'Channel 42 : 5.21 GHz' among others
[23:09] <jeremy31> wondows: do not post results here but compare available 5GHz channels on the AP with results from terminal for> iwlist chan
[23:12] <gofio> does shotwell have any room or dedicated site?
[23:13] <Yatekii> sarnold: thx!
[23:15] <sarnold> gofio: https://netsplit.de/channels/?net=GIMPnet
[23:15] <sarnold> gofio: I see a #shotwell there, but it's pretty tiny, seven people from the netsplit.de report. maybe that's a very good sign, or maybe it's a bad sign. :) but there ya go, hehe
[23:15] <gofio> sarnold: thanks. Checking
[23:16] <gofio> sarnold: better seven than twenty thousand jockers
[23:17] <sarnold> gofio: yes! especially if they actually use the program..
[23:19] <gofio> sarnold: and ubuntu. That's a less likely combination
[23:23] <gofio> what's in usr/bin/python3?
[23:25] <gofio> and what's the advantage of this room over google?
[23:25] <leftyfb> gofio: what can we help you with?
[23:26] <gofio> leftyfb: I have an issue with smuxi, but that's not ubuntu
[23:26] <leftyfb> gofio: ok, good luck
[23:26] <gofio> I'm trying to find the equivalent for /ignore
[23:27] <leftyfb> gofio: /ignore is an aspect of the IRC protocol. All IRC clients should support it.
[23:28] <sarnold> /ignore is implemented in the client; it's up to clients to implement it or nmot
[23:28] <gofio> yes that's the theory that's why I'm assuming i can find it because it must be somewhere. Just have to find where
[23:30] <gofio> My first test failed. There's a filter function but still haven't figure it out, not a priority. Don't need myself the /ignore to actually ignore. Other's seem they don't know how. Safety first
[23:32] <gofio>  01:23 <gofio> what's in usr/bin/python3? #!/usr/bin/python3 is a shebang line. A shebang line defines where the interpreter is located. Google wins
[23:33] <gofio> A shebang line defines where the interpreter is located.
[23:34] <aquanaut> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jrw6rp&s=8#.XQQtdYgzZPY.  Hi,how can I solve this when install ubuntu in DEL-PC?
[23:35] <aquanaut> Do I need to disable the boot secturity?
[23:35] <leftyfb> aquanaut: maybe try disabling secureboot
[23:37] <pl44c> Hey, I have a quick inquiry into how well supported booting from zfs on / is on this distro and if there is a good solution to having to have /boot and the kernel image/initramfs unencrypted.
[23:38] <pl44c> I have coreboot on this machine so I can put the bootloader on my flash chip but I'd still like the linux image to be encrypted on the disk and to have zfs take over my two disks with no partition table
[23:38] <sarnold> pl44c: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS
[23:39] <pl44c> sarnold: ah sorry I should have specified
[23:39] <pl44c> I'm using the recently released native encryption and not luks
[23:39] <pl44c> well I desire to use it
[23:41] <pl44c> It was really recent so I'm fully expecting there to be no good bootloader solution unless I'm not looking in the right places for information on it
[23:41] <longus_catus> If you don't want encrypted boot support (doesn't seem like a good idea though) then...there's not much special to do since you can load your kernel/initrd already
[23:42] <sarnold> pl44c: aha, I don't think ubuntu's pulled in the 0.8 with native encryption yet
[23:42] <longus_catus> I guess the initrd files need support
[23:42] <sarnold> I'm really looking forward to that one. I did that guide ^^ with LUKS, but that's not perfect fit for my needs
[23:42] <pl44c> yeah I'm still using mdadm - luks - lvm - ext4
[23:43] <pl44c> been waiting for zfs on linux to be fully supported in some form
[23:44] <pl44c> longus_catus: yeah from what I can tell the best I can do is have grub load the linux image/initd from an unencrypted zfs volume
[23:45] <longus_catus> I see.  Well, your options are limited to that and (signing your own trusted kernel/making your keys) if grub doesn't support it
[23:45] <longus_catus> Which you already knew.  I didn't
[23:47] <pl44c> I wasn't sure if there was work on porting illumos/freebsd's bootloader and if that supported it
[23:47] <sjelly> I've just built a new desktop machine and loaded Ubuntu 19.04. The login sequence is extremely slow - entering my password - but once in, the performance of the OS flies along like a rocket. What have I done wrong? BIOS setting?
[23:47] <pl44c> but I see that there is a zfsonlinux channel so I'll ask there
[23:52] <sarnold> sjelly: try installing systemd-bootchart and seeing if that helps nail down what's slow
[23:53] <sjelly> OK, thanks for the tip.
[23:54] <sarnold> sjelly: (to be clear, it won't make things better :)
[23:54] <sjelly> Understand.
[23:54] <sarnold> pl44c: sadly zfs is probably going to be pretty poorly supported so long as it's not GPL. :(
[23:54] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg
[23:55] <sarnold> OerHeks: dude. I've literally spent ten minutes before trying to figure out how to drive this stupid thing.
[23:55] <OerHeks> journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot, journalctl -b -1 from the previous boot
[23:56] <sarnold> OerHeks: and in one line you give what the manpages don't. :) thanks
[23:56] <pl44c> sarnold: in grub perhaps but there's always illumos's or freebsd's bootloader if they implement it there, but yeah I expect to hold back my kernel a few times
[23:56] <OerHeks> yw
[23:56] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze blame or systemctl --state=failed are another views