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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7dfb739dbd2d: make capitilization match screen] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7dfb739dbd2d04:34
lubot<SamuelBanya> Are there any Python tasks that don't involve qt and gtk? Just asking because I'm still hit a wall with the porting attempt for redshift and kind of would rather just package something easy to at least get one package in.04:52
wxl@tsimonq2 your flight over yet?16:53
lubot<teward001> his flight wil never be over.  *laughs evilly*16:53
wxl@tsimonq2: when i can get more than two seconds of your undivided time, please ping me :/16:59
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: when i can get more than two seconds of your undivided time, pl …], I have about 15 mins free right now, and then anytime after 7:30 Central tonight17:05
lubot<tsimonq2> Busy busy times17:05
lubot<tsimonq2> So hi17:05
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 [Busy busy times], that's what she said.17:06
lubot<teward001> *shot*17:06
wxl@tsimonq2: do you have any time before then at any point?17:10
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: do you have any time before then at any point?], What's up?17:10
lubot<tsimonq2> /command !ask17:10
lubot!ask17:10
lubot<tsimonq2> XD17:10
wxli did.17:10
lubot<tsimonq2> What can I help you with?17:11
wxloh, that. i already asked that, too.17:11
lubot<tsimonq2> Wat?17:19
lubot<tsimonq2> Let me put this more bluntly... Whatchu want? 😆17:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2b54dea59185: clarify where to mute] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2b54dea5918517:26
wxl@tsimonq2: first, there's the question of lubuntu-default-settings not building. first time i build it, i have no problem. then i have it if and only if i build it a second time. issue relates to some po file in xsessions not existing, which is a wtf. hoping for clues/suggestions.17:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Check debian/rules or try and find how we build translations18:00
wxlbut why does it not happen the first time?18:00
wxland why has this never happened before?18:00
wxlrules is about as barebones as it can be18:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Again, something with translations. I would try a build on Disco in a PPA. If that works, it's an underlying tooling change. If it doesn't work, then we're missing something.18:01
wxlbut again, i can reproduce the problem.. but only if i build it twice18:02
wxl@tsimonq2: next: "Breaks: lubuntu-default-session (<< 1.0)," emits "package-relation-with-self." is that really what we want?18:05
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: next: "Breaks: lubuntu-default-session (<< 1.0)," emits "packag …], yes18:08
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> but again, i can reproduce the problem.. but only if i build it twice], O_o18:08
wxl@tsimonq2: and a new one: calamares emits "unknown-field-in-dsc" for "Debian-Vcs-{Git,Browser}" which we don't have in our control though we do have "XS-Debian-Vcs-"18:10
wxl@tsimonq2: and if we do want these, why aren't we overriding them? we're only bothering to override fatal tags and not warnings?18:12
lubot<tsimonq2> unknown-field-in-dsc is an upstream Lintian bug18:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Yes, warnings are "shoulds" (RFC 2119)18:14
wxlfrom the guy that considers pedantic a default, i'm shocked18:16
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> pedantic is a default18:16
wxli would think overrides for the purposes of documentation might make sense18:16
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> Lintian is scary though18:16
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> It threatened to cut me ._.18:17
wxl@tsimonq2: would you be against an override, at least on the self-reference, for the purposes of documenting the strangeness?18:38
wxl@tsimonq2: next: why is spice-vdagent a dependency of lubuntu-desktop?18:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL99f36c2efe95: Add name and options in print dialog] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL99f36c2efe9518:42
lubot<lynorian> is featherpad supposed to not highlight text with the print dialog open18:45
wxlweird18:45
wxlthat doesn't sound like a feature18:45
lubot<lynorian> it comes back when closed18:45
wxlsounds like you got a bug to file18:46
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> from the guy that considers pedantic a default, i'm shocked], Some pedantic errors are more urgent than warnings sometimes18:46
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> i would think overrides for the purposes of documentation might make sense], It's a good idea18:46
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: would you be against an override, at least on the self-referenc …], Not at all18:47
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: next: why is spice-vdagent a dependency of lubuntu-desktop?], I have no clue, that's from the gilir days I think18:47
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> sounds like you got a bug to file], ^18:47
wxl@tsimonq2: it's not in our seed. how do we get rid of it?18:47
lubot<tsimonq2> See how it's getting pulled in18:47
lubot<teward001> rdepends, wxl.18:47
lubot<teward001> rdepends.18:47
lubot<teward001> check em.18:47
lubot<teward001> :P18:47
wxlit's a direct dependency18:48
wxlit's not in xenial18:48
wxlor bionic18:48
wxlit shows up in cosmic18:48
lubot<teward001> just going to include this because i think it seems it's part of EVERY image...18:53
lubot<teward001> ```spice-vdagent … Reverse Depends: …   ubuntu-desktop …   xubuntu-desktop …   xubuntu-core …   vanilla-gnome-desktop …   ubuntustudio-desktop-core …   ubuntustudio-desktop …   ubuntukylin-desktop …   ubuntu-mate-desktop …   ubuntu-mate-core …   ubuntu-budgie-desktop …   lubuntu-desktop …   kubuntu-desktop …   ubuntu-desktop-minimal18:53
lubot```18:53
lubot<teward001> (from `apt-cache rdepends spice-vdagent` in Eoan)18:53
wxlwtf whyyyyy18:53
lubot<teward001> i believe you should ask the release team :318:53
wxlwhy isn't server in there?18:54
lubot<teward001> maybe it's just something desktop needed?18:54
lubot<teward001> EICKMEYER I KNOW YOU ARE ALIVE18:55
lubot<teward001> ^ explain this ffor Studio and Xubuntu.18:55
lubot<teward001> @Eickmeyer18:55
apt-ghettoman 1 spice-vdagent => spice-vdagent  gets automatically started in desktop environments which honor /etc/xdg/autostart18:59
lubot<Eickmeyer> I’ll have to look into this.18:59
lubot<lynorian> Is this so that it works in virt manager and stuff18:59
wxland in other news we have a geoclue demo agent autostarting because of network-manager-gnome but also because lxqt depends on gdm319:00
wxlapt-ghetto: i gather that, but the issue is not about the autostart, so much as why it's there at all19:01
lubot<lynorian> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/429062518/print_no_highlighting.png19:01
lynorianhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/featherpad/+bug/183311819:01
ubot93Ubottu bug 1833118 in featherpad (Ubuntu) "featherpad does not syntax highlight with printer dialog open" [Undecided, New]19:01
wxli guess we can blacklist them in the seeds19:06
wxl@tsimonq2: won't that work if there's some global addition?19:06
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: won't that work if there's some global addition?], It will, yeah19:09
lubot<tsimonq2> I'd say email ubuntu-devel though19:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALec160936c238: Add more printer options to featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALec160936c23819:10
* Eickmeyer throws a hot, hard coffee mug at teward19:19
EickmeyerI'm having trouble seeing what the problem is with spice-vdagent.19:19
wxldon't want it there19:19
teward*shielded* ERR: DMB Meeting19:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf6cc9e04838d: Add specific pages to print in featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf6cc9e04838d19:25
wxltsimonq2: (k3b, quassel, trojita) -> qtwebkit -> qtpositioning -> (recommends) geoclue. now how to get rid of it?19:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Actually, geoclue would be a good thing to have.19:47
lubot<tsimonq2> I was at SELF and someone recommended we use it for the system panel clock19:48
lubot<kc2bez> If we add redshift we will need it for that too.19:48
wxlit seems to run a "demo geoclue agent"19:48
wxllet me get this straight..... it autostarts a demo???????????19:49
* Eickmeyer throws packages and an IV drip of coffee at teward for his SUCCESSFUL CORE-DEV APPLICAITON!!!!19:55
tewardhah, thanks Eickmeyer19:55
tewardI'll just take the coffee for now19:55
tewardE:ACLNotUpdated19:55
Eickmeyerhehe19:55
wxlcongrats19:55
tewardthanks wxl :)19:56
lubot<kc2bez> That is awesome teward!19:56
lubot<teward001> ^.^ I know!  :D20:00
lubot<kc2bez> Congrats to you!20:01
lubot<teward001> thank you.20:02
lubot<HMollerCl> congrats @teward001 !!!20:07
lubot<teward001> thanks @HMollerCl :)20:08
lubot<tsimonq2> You're indirectly a Lubuntu Developer now ;)20:51
lubot<acheronuk> @teward001 Congratulations :)20:57
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 heh good point xD21:24
lubot<teward001> @acheronuk thanks!21:24
guiverc2Congratulations teward on Ubuntu Core dev accreditation.22:25
Eickmeyerwxl, @HMollerCl: I sense a troll.22:41
wxli think they have consistently shown themselves to be legitimately interested, Eickmeyer but i might be wrong22:42

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