| jose__ | HOLA | 05:42 |
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| Riot_Mint | motd | 14:26 |
| maxi_ | hi | 14:49 |
| === LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze | ||
| === ubuntu is now known as Guest8367 | ||
| sbabozz | ok so i'm creating a shared folder with permissive permissions in / | 19:12 |
| sbabozz | Im just confused about who i should make the owner of that folder | 19:13 |
| sbabozz | Does it matter? | 19:13 |
| sbabozz | I was thinkingof root (like all the others in /) but I dont like the idea of setting a precedent where other users can get into root's stuff.. | 19:13 |
| sbabozz | Also (other question) I would like to know why Snap installs don't work (they get installed, but apps don't launch) | 19:17 |
| wxl | @teward: do acl's care about ownership? | 19:19 |
| wxl | re: snaps, they work fine. might be a specific snap. | 19:19 |
| sbabozz | hi :) | 19:20 |
| sbabozz | (again) | 19:20 |
| sbabozz | are you the official coordinator of this channel? | 19:20 |
| wxl | no | 19:20 |
| wxl | well | 19:21 |
| wxl | maybe | 19:21 |
| Bruh | hello | 19:22 |
| sbabozz | can you kick people out? | 19:23 |
| === help is now known as Guest95822 | ||
| sbabozz | (i guess that's the power of the coordinator) | 19:24 |
| Guest95822 | hi | 19:24 |
| wxl | never had to do it | 19:25 |
| Guest95822 | uhh | 19:26 |
| sbabozz | do you think it matters who is the owner of the folder? | 19:26 |
| sbabozz | also what was that /tmp method you talked about yesterday | 19:26 |
| wxl | no idea | 19:27 |
| sbabozz | which question? | 19:27 |
| Guest95822 | can you uhhhh help? | 19:27 |
| sbabozz | Guest95822: just shoot your question | 19:27 |
| Guest95822 | aight | 19:28 |
| Guest95822 | I'm downloading lubuntu and I'm stuck at partitions | 19:28 |
| Guest95822 | the partitions are correct but I'm not allowed to hit next | 19:28 |
| Guest95822 | help | 19:28 |
| sbabozz | Guest95822: are you downloading or installing? | 19:30 |
| Guest95822 | I have lubuntu on a flash drive and I'm installing it onto my computers drive | 19:30 |
| Guest95822 | install | 19:30 |
| sbabozz | That's strange... I never had problems with the installation... I would quit that installation and restart a new one... | 19:31 |
| Guest95822 | alright | 19:32 |
| Guest95822 | brb I guess | 19:32 |
| sbabozz | Also check that your install media is 100% good | 19:32 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> do you have a swap partition in the drive you want to install? | 19:37 |
| sbabozz | wxl: you said something like the easiest way (for quick transfers of files between local users) might have been with /tmp | 19:37 |
| wxl | sbabozz: /tmp is a "temporary" storage open to all | 19:39 |
| wxl | emphasis on temporary | 19:40 |
| lubot | <lynorian> it goes away on reboot | 19:40 |
| sbabozz | so say if guest puts something there, then guest logs out, then another user logs in, he will find that file in /tmp? | 19:40 |
| sbabozz | (without rebooting machine) | 19:41 |
| ahhhhh | back | 19:42 |
| ahhhhh | next is still greyed out | 19:43 |
| wxl | sbabozz: https://serverfault.com/questions/455219/how-long-do-uploaded-files-stay-in-the-tmp-folder-in-linux-ubuntu | 19:43 |
| wxl | ahhhhh: did you check the hashes of the iso and the disk for defects at boot? | 19:43 |
| ahhhhh | how do I do that? | 19:44 |
| wxl | you follow the manual :) | 19:44 |
| wxl | manual.lubuntu.me | 19:44 |
| ahhhhh | jeeeez | 19:45 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> wxl: maybe is the thing with swap partitions | 19:45 |
| teward | wxl: in what context | 19:45 |
| teward | sorry i was in a meeting | 19:45 |
| teward | wxl: ACLs are more 'extended permissions' and can *override* standard chmod effectiveness | 19:45 |
| wxl | sbabozz: ^ i.e. the owner of your shared folder won't matter | 19:46 |
| teward | so if I have a default owner of root, but an ACL for u::rwx the *effective* ACL for any user is read/write/execute-traverse | 19:46 |
| teward | but it can get janky sometimes with LOTS of rules | 19:46 |
| sbabozz | can the owner be a non-existing user? | 19:46 |
| sbabozz | i mean is this possible? | 19:47 |
| teward | no | 19:47 |
| teward | owner has to exist | 19:47 |
| teward | even if owner is root | 19:47 |
| teward | which is fine | 19:47 |
| wxl | owner could be nobody? | 19:48 |
| sbabozz | ahhhhh: when you start install media there is an option like "Check for defects" | 19:48 |
| wxl | ^ that's part 2/2 | 19:48 |
| teward | wxl: that too | 19:50 |
| sbabozz | teward: so is this wrong thinking-> I dont like the idea of setting a precedent where other users can get into root's stuff | 19:50 |
| teward | sbabozz: so set it to nobody:nogroup | 19:50 |
| teward | then provide per group / per user ACLs independently | 19:50 |
| teward | but note that ACLs can be *very* tricky sometimes and can break things if you aren't careful | 19:50 |
| sbabozz | what i do is just create a folder in / (using pcmanfm-root) then set the owner to "nobody" and allow all permissions to access, read and modify... CORRECT? | 19:53 |
| sbabozz | (I do sudo pcmanfm) | 19:55 |
| sbabozz | If i remember correctly the guest user has a very limited disk space. How to change it? (the default disk space given to guest) | 19:59 |
| ahhhhhhhh | helo | 20:01 |
| ahhhhhhhh | how do | 20:01 |
| ahhhhhhhh | I got past the partition part | 20:01 |
| ahhhhhhhh | but there is another error | 20:01 |
| wxl | did you check the hashes of your iso? | 20:02 |
| ahhhhhhhh | I checked the disc is the hashes thing in the manual as well? | 20:02 |
| wxl | yep | 20:02 |
| ahhhhhhhh | brbrbr | 20:02 |
| ahhhhhhhh | which chapter | 20:02 |
| sbabozz | md5sum | 20:03 |
| sbabozz | in the terminal you write md5sum [name of file] | 20:03 |
| sbabozz | then that string has to match perfectly the official md5sum | 20:04 |
| sbabozz | in the terminal you first need to go to the folder where the iso file is | 20:05 |
| sbabozz | and then you write md5sum [name of file] and then press enter | 20:05 |
| sbabozz | this will give you the md5sum string of the downloaded file | 20:05 |
| sbabozz | if it matches the official, then you're good | 20:06 |
| sbabozz | wxl: am i giving good support? :) | 20:07 |
| wxl | sbabozz: looks good to me. | 20:08 |
| sbabozz | ahhhhhhhh: are you still here? | 20:08 |
| ahhhhhhhh | yes | 20:08 |
| sbabozz | did you understand? | 20:08 |
| ahhhhhhhh | I didn't even know you were talkin to me | 20:08 |
| ahhhhhhhh | so do mdmsum | 20:08 |
| sbabozz | md5sum | 20:08 |
| ahhhhhhhh | how do I find the official? | 20:08 |
| sbabozz | sounds complicated, but it's actually very easy | 20:09 |
| ahhhhhhhh | I used linuxpendrive to make my usb bootable so I don't really have the iso anymore | 20:09 |
| sbabozz | https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/MD5Sum/Hash | 20:10 |
| ahhhhhhhh | is there a way I can do the mdmdm6msum | 20:10 |
| ahhhhhhhh | on windows? | 20:10 |
| ahhhhhhhh | I have the iso on there | 20:10 |
| wxl | sbabozz: you might want to provide the standard ubuntu.com links rather than the language specific ones | 20:10 |
| wxl | ahhhhhhhh: there are programs to do it but i can't recommend a particular one | 20:10 |
| ahhhhhhhh | File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 340, in run return unpackop.run() File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 224, in run error_msg = self.unpack_image(entry, imgmountdir) File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 270, in unpack_image return file_copy(imgmountdir, entry.destination, progress_cb) File "/usr/ | 20:13 |
| ahhhhhhhh | those are the errors | 20:13 |
| wxl | there should be a log in home somewhere. could you pastebin that? | 20:14 |
| ahhhhhhhh | waht | 20:14 |
| wxl | pastebinit $HOME/.cache/Calamares/session.log | 20:16 |
| wxl | give me the result | 20:16 |
| ahhhhhhhh | pastebinit $HOME/.cache/Calamares/session.log | 20:17 |
| ahhhhhhhh | oops | 20:17 |
| ahhhhhhhh | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfjZMKfKMS/ | 20:18 |
| wxl | wow that is a mess of partitions | 20:19 |
| ahhhhhhhh | yeah It worked maybe I guess but not | 20:20 |
| wxl | what are you trying to accomplish here? | 20:22 |
| ahhhhhhhh | Uh I really don't know | 20:24 |
| sbabozz | sorry for the language, but the italian page is better (you can see all the md5sums in one page) | 20:24 |
| wxl | you appear to have two drives? | 20:24 |
| ahhhhhhhh | uhhhh | 20:24 |
| ahhhhhhhh | no | 20:24 |
| ahhhhhhhh | I see waht I did and I'm tryna fix it bro | 20:25 |
| wxl | 2019-06-18 - 19:50:53 [6]: "/dev/mmcblk0" 31264289280 "MMC BJNB4R" "MMC BJNB4R – 29.12 GiB (/dev/mmcblk0)" | 20:25 |
| wxl | 2019-06-18 - 19:50:53 [6]: "/dev/sda" 15998169600 "Lexar USB Flash Drive" "Lexar USB Flash Drive – 14.90 GiB (/dev/sda)" | 20:25 |
| ahhhhhhhh | flash drive | 20:25 |
| ahhhhhhhh | yup | 20:25 |
| wxl | you're trying to install to the ~30g hard drive? | 20:25 |
| ahhhhhhhh | yes | 20:25 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Goodbye forever, i386 … Packages will no longer be built for i386 in Ubuntu. See our Discourse post for more information: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/goodbye-forever-i386/108 … The original announcement about dropping i386 this past December, as nobody stepped up to help test: https://lubuntu.me | 20:26 |
| lubot | /sunsetting-i386/ … https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1141079122275426306 | 20:26 |
| ahhhhhhhh | he installer failed to resize partition /dev/mmcblk0p2 on disk 'MMC BJNB4R'. ========================================================================================== Shrink partition ‘/dev/mmcblk0p2’ from 24.61 GiB to 24.51 GiB ========================================================================================== ========================================================================================== Job: Resize file | 20:26 |
| ahhhhhhhh | different erroror | 20:26 |
| sbabozz | teward: do you confirm this -> what i do is just create a folder in / (using pcmanfm-root) then set the owner to "nobody" and allow all permissions to access, read and modify... CORRECT? | 20:26 |
| sbabozz | Just want to be sure that I will not break my system right... :) | 20:27 |
| wxl | yep | 20:27 |
| wxl | because it's mounted | 20:27 |
| wxl | 2019-06-18 - 15:50:55 [6]: .. contains mounted "/dev/mmcblk0p2" | 20:27 |
| ahhhhhhhh | it might be working | 20:28 |
| wxl | you should make sure everything's unmounted | 20:28 |
| ahhhhhhhh | the partitions were very messed up because I don't know how to do that | 20:28 |
| wxl | why don't you just erase the entire disk? | 20:29 |
| wxl | bbl | 20:30 |
| teward | sbabozz: in theory, yes. | 20:30 |
| teward | in practice i'd use ACLs to also control defaults on created files | 20:30 |
| sbabozz | in theory? | 20:30 |
| teward | but start with your part first | 20:30 |
| teward | and stop pinging me i'm busy at work :p | 20:30 |
| sbabozz | you mean i could break my system? | 20:30 |
| teward | sbabozz: no | 20:31 |
| teward | break your system, no | 20:31 |
| teward | make it so if i create a file someone else can't edit it, yes. | 20:31 |
| sbabozz | sorry | 20:31 |
| teward | create a file in that directory space* | 20:31 |
| ahhhhhhhh | hey wxl should I use swap since I only have 4gb of ram? | 20:31 |
| teward | sbabozz: not your fault, i'm just very busy right now i think i broke email at work xD | 20:32 |
| teward | so i have to fix it | 20:32 |
| sbabozz | ok, thanks | 20:33 |
| sbabozz | good luck | 20:34 |
| sbabozz | wxl: how do i change the default disk space given to guest user? | 20:35 |
| sbabozz | I don't understand why they made it so little... | 20:36 |
| sbabozz | With almost 300 GB free, guest doesn't even have 500MB | 20:38 |
| sbabozz | We gotta be nice to our guests... :) | 20:38 |
| teward | and i did break mail | 20:38 |
| * teward fixed it | 20:38 | |
| sbabozz | fixed it? | 20:39 |
| teward | sbabozz: the 'guest account' is ephemeral. It doesn't 'store' data outside a tmpfs typically | 20:39 |
| teward | so if you give it space it won't matter every time its logged off it'll blast the data away | 20:39 |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest59966 | ||
| sbabozz | Yes but say the guest user wants to download a movie and watch it, he can't do it with so little space... | 20:39 |
| teward | guest user should be streaming the movie not downloading then watching | 20:40 |
| sbabozz | you need good connection to stream | 20:40 |
| teward | need good connection to download too :p | 20:40 |
| teward | which means if the connection is bad it's a 'moot point' | 20:40 |
| sbabozz | yes but that won't be a problem when you watch it | 20:40 |
| teward | and yes i fixed workplace email | 20:40 |
| teward | it was my fault | 20:40 |
| sbabozz | good, so you can help me :) | 20:41 |
| teward | not when it comes to the guest account | 20:42 |
| sbabozz | I mean when the connection is bad, downloading will be slow, but after you'll be able to watch the movie alright... | 20:42 |
| sbabozz | streaming won't work | 20:42 |
| sbabozz | well | 20:42 |
| teward | well I can't help you with the guest account part anyways | 20:42 |
| teward | not becuase i don't agree | 20:42 |
| teward | but because I don't know enough about that aspect | 20:42 |
| teward | since it's pretty hardly jailed | 20:42 |
| teward | @tsimonq2 might be able to help | 20:42 |
| teward | :p | 20:42 |
| sbabozz | you know more than me, so i grant you permission to help me anyways :) | 20:43 |
| sbabozz | I won't hold you responsible... | 20:44 |
| sbabozz | unless you break my system of course... :) | 20:44 |
| sbabozz | It's crazy with 300 GB free, to not even give guest 500MB, don't you think? | 20:45 |
| sbabozz | Whoever made that decision, owes a serious explanation... | 20:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Which version of Lubuntu? | 20:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Guest support is absolutely 100% on my radar, fwiw. | 20:48 |
| sbabozz | 18.04 | 20:48 |
| sbabozz | fwiw? | 20:48 |
| sbabozz | For What It's Worth? | 20:49 |
| sbabozz | it's worth for me... | 20:49 |
| sbabozz | I want to change disk space for guest to 3GB | 20:50 |
| sbabozz | at least 1% of free disk space... | 20:50 |
| sbabozz | lubot: you don't look like a bot | 20:52 |
| sbabozz | tsimonq2: are you here? | 20:53 |
| sbabozz | I found this | 20:55 |
| sbabozz | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1006781/how-to-increase-allowed-disk-space-for-guest-account | 20:55 |
| sbabozz | but no solution... | 20:56 |
| sbabozz | I gotta close soon... But will check the channel logs later if anybody wants to answer... | 20:59 |
| sbabozz | Thanks to all | 21:00 |
| sbabozz | :) | 21:00 |
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