[05:42] HOLA [14:26] motd [14:49] hi === LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze === ubuntu is now known as Guest8367 [19:12] ok so i'm creating a shared folder with permissive permissions in / [19:13] Im just confused about who i should make the owner of that folder [19:13] Does it matter? [19:13] I was thinkingof root (like all the others in /) but I dont like the idea of setting a precedent where other users can get into root's stuff.. [19:17] Also (other question) I would like to know why Snap installs don't work (they get installed, but apps don't launch) [19:19] @teward: do acl's care about ownership? [19:19] re: snaps, they work fine. might be a specific snap. [19:20] hi :) [19:20] (again) [19:20] are you the official coordinator of this channel? [19:20] no [19:21] well [19:21] maybe [19:22] hello [19:23] can you kick people out? === help is now known as Guest95822 [19:24] (i guess that's the power of the coordinator) [19:24] hi [19:25] never had to do it [19:26] uhh [19:26] do you think it matters who is the owner of the folder? [19:26] also what was that /tmp method you talked about yesterday [19:27] no idea [19:27] which question? [19:27] can you uhhhh help? [19:27] Guest95822: just shoot your question [19:28] aight [19:28] I'm downloading lubuntu and I'm stuck at partitions [19:28] the partitions are correct but I'm not allowed to hit next [19:28] help [19:30] Guest95822: are you downloading or installing? [19:30] I have lubuntu on a flash drive and I'm installing it onto my computers drive [19:30] install [19:31] That's strange... I never had problems with the installation... I would quit that installation and restart a new one... [19:32] alright [19:32] brb I guess [19:32] Also check that your install media is 100% good [19:37] do you have a swap partition in the drive you want to install? [19:37] wxl: you said something like the easiest way (for quick transfers of files between local users) might have been with /tmp [19:39] sbabozz: /tmp is a "temporary" storage open to all [19:40] emphasis on temporary [19:40] it goes away on reboot [19:40] so say if guest puts something there, then guest logs out, then another user logs in, he will find that file in /tmp? [19:41] (without rebooting machine) [19:42] back [19:43] next is still greyed out [19:43] sbabozz: https://serverfault.com/questions/455219/how-long-do-uploaded-files-stay-in-the-tmp-folder-in-linux-ubuntu [19:43] ahhhhh: did you check the hashes of the iso and the disk for defects at boot? [19:44] how do I do that? [19:44] you follow the manual :) [19:44] manual.lubuntu.me [19:45] jeeeez [19:45] wxl: maybe is the thing with swap partitions [19:45] wxl: in what context [19:45] sorry i was in a meeting [19:45] wxl: ACLs are more 'extended permissions' and can *override* standard chmod effectiveness [19:46] sbabozz: ^ i.e. the owner of your shared folder won't matter [19:46] so if I have a default owner of root, but an ACL for u::rwx the *effective* ACL for any user is read/write/execute-traverse [19:46] but it can get janky sometimes with LOTS of rules [19:46] can the owner be a non-existing user? [19:47] i mean is this possible? [19:47] no [19:47] owner has to exist [19:47] even if owner is root [19:47] which is fine [19:48] owner could be nobody? [19:48] ahhhhh: when you start install media there is an option like "Check for defects" [19:48] ^ that's part 2/2 [19:50] wxl: that too [19:50] teward: so is this wrong thinking-> I dont like the idea of setting a precedent where other users can get into root's stuff [19:50] sbabozz: so set it to nobody:nogroup [19:50] then provide per group / per user ACLs independently [19:50] but note that ACLs can be *very* tricky sometimes and can break things if you aren't careful [19:53] what i do is just create a folder in / (using pcmanfm-root) then set the owner to "nobody" and allow all permissions to access, read and modify... CORRECT? [19:55] (I do sudo pcmanfm) [19:59] If i remember correctly the guest user has a very limited disk space. How to change it? (the default disk space given to guest) [20:01] helo [20:01] how do [20:01] I got past the partition part [20:01] but there is another error [20:02] did you check the hashes of your iso? [20:02] I checked the disc is the hashes thing in the manual as well? [20:02] yep [20:02] brbrbr [20:02] which chapter [20:03] md5sum [20:03] in the terminal you write md5sum [name of file] [20:04] then that string has to match perfectly the official md5sum [20:05] in the terminal you first need to go to the folder where the iso file is [20:05] and then you write md5sum [name of file] and then press enter [20:05] this will give you the md5sum string of the downloaded file [20:06] if it matches the official, then you're good [20:07] wxl: am i giving good support? :) [20:08] sbabozz: looks good to me. [20:08] ahhhhhhhh: are you still here? [20:08] yes [20:08] did you understand? [20:08] I didn't even know you were talkin to me [20:08] so do mdmsum [20:08] md5sum [20:08] how do I find the official? [20:09] sounds complicated, but it's actually very easy [20:09] I used linuxpendrive to make my usb bootable so I don't really have the iso anymore [20:10] https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/MD5Sum/Hash [20:10] is there a way I can do the mdmdm6msum [20:10] on windows? [20:10] I have the iso on there [20:10] sbabozz: you might want to provide the standard ubuntu.com links rather than the language specific ones [20:10] ahhhhhhhh: there are programs to do it but i can't recommend a particular one [20:13] File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 340, in run return unpackop.run() File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 224, in run error_msg = self.unpack_image(entry, imgmountdir) File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 270, in unpack_image return file_copy(imgmountdir, entry.destination, progress_cb) File "/usr/ [20:13] those are the errors [20:14] there should be a log in home somewhere. could you pastebin that? [20:14] waht [20:16] pastebinit $HOME/.cache/Calamares/session.log [20:16] give me the result [20:17] pastebinit $HOME/.cache/Calamares/session.log [20:17] oops [20:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfjZMKfKMS/ [20:19] wow that is a mess of partitions [20:20] yeah It worked maybe I guess but not [20:22] what are you trying to accomplish here? [20:24] Uh I really don't know [20:24] sorry for the language, but the italian page is better (you can see all the md5sums in one page) [20:24] you appear to have two drives? [20:24] uhhhh [20:24] no [20:25] I see waht I did and I'm tryna fix it bro [20:25] 2019-06-18 - 19:50:53 [6]: "/dev/mmcblk0" 31264289280 "MMC BJNB4R" "MMC BJNB4R – 29.12 GiB (/dev/mmcblk0)" [20:25] 2019-06-18 - 19:50:53 [6]: "/dev/sda" 15998169600 "Lexar USB Flash Drive" "Lexar USB Flash Drive – 14.90 GiB (/dev/sda)" [20:25] flash drive [20:25] yup [20:25] you're trying to install to the ~30g hard drive? [20:25] yes [20:26] Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Goodbye forever, i386 … Packages will no longer be built for i386 in Ubuntu. See our Discourse post for more information: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/goodbye-forever-i386/108 … The original announcement about dropping i386 this past December, as nobody stepped up to help test: https://lubuntu.me [20:26] /sunsetting-i386/ … https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1141079122275426306 [20:26] he installer failed to resize partition /dev/mmcblk0p2 on disk 'MMC BJNB4R'. ========================================================================================== Shrink partition ‘/dev/mmcblk0p2’ from 24.61 GiB to 24.51 GiB ========================================================================================== ========================================================================================== Job: Resize file [20:26] different erroror [20:26] teward: do you confirm this -> what i do is just create a folder in / (using pcmanfm-root) then set the owner to "nobody" and allow all permissions to access, read and modify... CORRECT? [20:27] Just want to be sure that I will not break my system right... :) [20:27] yep [20:27] because it's mounted [20:27] 2019-06-18 - 15:50:55 [6]: .. contains mounted "/dev/mmcblk0p2" [20:28] it might be working [20:28] you should make sure everything's unmounted [20:28] the partitions were very messed up because I don't know how to do that [20:29] why don't you just erase the entire disk? [20:30] bbl [20:30] sbabozz: in theory, yes. [20:30] in practice i'd use ACLs to also control defaults on created files [20:30] in theory? [20:30] but start with your part first [20:30] and stop pinging me i'm busy at work :p [20:30] you mean i could break my system? [20:31] sbabozz: no [20:31] break your system, no [20:31] make it so if i create a file someone else can't edit it, yes. [20:31] sorry [20:31] create a file in that directory space* [20:31] hey wxl should I use swap since I only have 4gb of ram? [20:32] sbabozz: not your fault, i'm just very busy right now i think i broke email at work xD [20:32] so i have to fix it [20:33] ok, thanks [20:34] good luck [20:35] wxl: how do i change the default disk space given to guest user? [20:36] I don't understand why they made it so little... [20:38] With almost 300 GB free, guest doesn't even have 500MB [20:38] We gotta be nice to our guests... :) [20:38] and i did break mail [20:38] * teward fixed it [20:39] fixed it? [20:39] sbabozz: the 'guest account' is ephemeral. It doesn't 'store' data outside a tmpfs typically [20:39] so if you give it space it won't matter every time its logged off it'll blast the data away === lubuntu is now known as Guest59966 [20:39] Yes but say the guest user wants to download a movie and watch it, he can't do it with so little space... [20:40] guest user should be streaming the movie not downloading then watching [20:40] you need good connection to stream [20:40] need good connection to download too :p [20:40] which means if the connection is bad it's a 'moot point' [20:40] yes but that won't be a problem when you watch it [20:40] and yes i fixed workplace email [20:40] it was my fault [20:41] good, so you can help me :) [20:42] not when it comes to the guest account [20:42] I mean when the connection is bad, downloading will be slow, but after you'll be able to watch the movie alright... [20:42] streaming won't work [20:42] well [20:42] well I can't help you with the guest account part anyways [20:42] not becuase i don't agree [20:42] but because I don't know enough about that aspect [20:42] since it's pretty hardly jailed [20:42] @tsimonq2 might be able to help [20:42] :p [20:43] you know more than me, so i grant you permission to help me anyways :) [20:44] I won't hold you responsible... [20:44] unless you break my system of course... :) [20:45] It's crazy with 300 GB free, to not even give guest 500MB, don't you think? [20:46] Whoever made that decision, owes a serious explanation... [20:47] Which version of Lubuntu? [20:48] Guest support is absolutely 100% on my radar, fwiw. [20:48] 18.04 [20:48] fwiw? [20:49] For What It's Worth? [20:49] it's worth for me... [20:50] I want to change disk space for guest to 3GB [20:50] at least 1% of free disk space... [20:52] lubot: you don't look like a bot [20:53] tsimonq2: are you here? [20:55] I found this [20:55] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1006781/how-to-increase-allowed-disk-space-for-guest-account [20:56] but no solution... [20:59] I gotta close soon... But will check the channel logs later if anybody wants to answer... [21:00] Thanks to all [21:00] :)