[00:05] <wxl> vm/bios/unencrypted w/ manual partition is a go
 I can check some metal installs in a bit
[00:06] <wxl> danke
[00:17] <wxl> vm/bios/unencrypted with a manual gpt partition (i know, getting weird) worked fine
[00:17] <wxl> i'm fairly confident we should be good
[00:17] <wxl> at least from a vm perspective
 So, pick the daily ISO and install it basically?
 If you link me to the ISO I'll install it on my potato
[00:19] <wxl> pick the iso, download the diff of the fix, patch it, install it
 Gonna take a hot minute to download
[00:20] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1829805/comments/17
[00:21] <wxl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/eoan-desktop-amd64.iso
 Alright. The Potato is a Corebooted laptop. So EFI only, but should get you some of the way there.
[00:22] <kc2bez> That is good. My potato is only BIOS.
[00:33] <kc2bez> Unencrypted BIOS on my laptop is good.
[00:33] <wxl> that's a good start
 May I offer unsolicited feedback on this boot experience?
[01:01] <kc2bez> I don't think constructive feedback is ever turned away.
 The panel objects seem a little... dark
[01:01] <kc2bez> LUKS BIOS is a go wxl.
 I'm going to act like I didn't spend half a minute finding the network indicator 😅
[01:02] <kc2bez> I think there is a fix in the works.
 "Oh maybe they don't have it up yet, I can find it in the launcher I bet"
 Wait, "Filling up filesystems"?
 It's not really going to write 320GB, is it
[01:03] <kc2bez> no
 Okay, that's good
 That is a feature in some installers
[01:03] <wxl[m]> Like writing zeroes?
 Yes, or random data
[01:04] <wxl[m]> Makes sense
[01:04] <wxl[m]> I'll modify the config to check for your ip and if it matches do that
[01:05] <kc2bez> I'm at 4.6G installed
 It doesn't make much sense on SSDs though lol
 reboot now
 And booted
 Good work, hackers
[01:11] <kc2bez> @UniversalSuperBox your EFI install, was it encrypted or no?
 Yes, encrypted
[01:11] <kc2bez> cool
 For some reason the screensaver appeared in like 10 seconds in the live session
 And then once dismissed didn't come back
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[01:20] <kc2bez> weird
[02:15] <wxl> @UniversalSuperBox ghost in the potato
[02:15] <wxl> btw thx for the help
[02:22] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know what repo has the *current* usb-creator in it? everything i can find is 0.3.5
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know what repo has the *current* usb-creator in it? ever …], Noooo clue
[02:24] <wxl> sigh
[02:25] <wxl> @tsimonq2: in other news it seems that TJ-'s fixed worked, so i guess i'll add a changelog, add it, and upload it, unless you have any reason to be cautious
 Nope, go for it
 Spin off an image after it migrates
[02:43] <kc2bez> wxl: Is this what you are looking for? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan/+package/usb-creator-kde
[02:43] <wxl> kc2bez: i'm looking for the repo, though, not the package
 Is it a native package?
[02:44] <wxl> yeah
[02:44] <wxl> i can find repos but not the one that contains the latest version
[02:49] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you don't have the capacity to approve that upload do you?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you don't have the capacity to approve that upload do you?], Not at the moment
 Plus, you need practice
 :P
[02:50] <wxl> practice begging people? XD
 XD
[02:51] <wxl> cuz afaik i can't approve it XD
 wait wat?
 Approve what now?
[02:51] <wxl> it's in proposed of course....
 Which?
[02:52] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/1:19.10.2
 So what's this business about approving? :p
[02:52] <wxl> well
[02:53] <wxl> you wanted me to spin a new iso, which i assume you mean you want that package in release.......
 I can't manually approve that
[02:54] <wxl> it's entirely automated eh?
 It's Britney, bitch
 XDDDDDDD
[02:55] <wxl> !language
[02:55] <kc2bez> wxl: it looks like usb-creator 0.3.6 is in proposed too
 That's what Britney is named after
 Britney Spears
[02:55] <wxl> kc2bez: right. so it should be in SOME repo XD
[02:55] <kc2bez> right
[02:55] <wxl> @tsimonq2: that's… amazing
[02:58] <wxl> @tsimonq2: did i remember correctly you have britney runnning at home?
 Not at home, but it runs on our servers via Jenkins
 That's why we have two stable and two unstable PPAs
 One is a proposed pocket
[02:59] <wxl> ah
 The other is the release pocket
[03:00] <wxl> hm excuses just re-ran and i don't see it in there
[03:00] <wxl> there's no way it slipped through that quick is there??
 Was the source actually published in proposed when Britney started?
 Britney takes a good five or ten mins
[03:01] <wxl> that's what i mean.. it just re-ran
 Hmmmm
[03:02] <wxl> UTC is Thu Jun 20 03:02:19 UTC 2019
 !patience
 XD
[03:02] <wxl> Generated: 2019.06.20 02:50:15 +0000
[03:02] <wxl> it published 18 minutes ago
[03:33] <wxl> ok the fix is in release
[03:33] <wxl> let me get a new iso going
 And published?
 You're sure it's published?
[03:34] <wxl> Published 31 seconds ago
 Ok
[03:48] <guiverc2> the ISO you're talking about is the daily? (with TJ's work?) iso.qa says re-building still
[03:50] <wxl> yep yep yep
[04:04] <guiverc2> thanks wxl, i paused me daily testing & will do with new...
[04:05] <wxl> guiverc2: np. thanks for the help!
 Good work!
[04:36] <wxl> Status 	When complete 	Architecture 	Archive
[04:36] <wxl> [BUILDING] Currently building 	10 minutes ago (estimated) buildlog (141.5 KiB) 	amd64 	Primary Archive for Ubuntu
[04:36] <wxl> when complete: 10 minutes ago X''''''D
[04:41] <wxl> ok it's built and is being uploaded
[04:48] <wxl> there it is guiverc2 
[04:49] <guiverc2> :)
[05:02] <wxl> and success!
[06:53] <TJ-> Where can I find info on what tools are used to generate the ISO images, specifically the casper/initrd image. I'm finding that unmkinitramfs is failing to extract files from that file "cpio: premature end of archive"  - this is the 19.10 desktop ISO I'm working on
[07:12] <TJ-> ahhh, never mind, it's xnox messing with initramfs-tools! Bug #1832108
 After updating the error.   the system suggests me to execute the following command: sudo apt --fix-broken install after doing  … dpkg-deb: error: insert subprocess was killed by signal (Channel break) … There were errors while processing the following packages: … /var/cache/apt/archives/libpython3.7-stdlib_3.7.3-2~18.04.1_amd64.deb … E: 
[08:48] <kc2bez> @Aza that is probably a better question for the support channel. This is the development channel. 
[08:48] <kc2bez> !support
 sorry, thanks
[08:50] <kc2bez> No problem
 @acheronuk there are problems again with falkon
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vchQ67Mj8j/
 @HMollerCl [@acheronuk there are problems again with falkon], They reverted the ABI changes in ICU, so qtwebengine will need another rebuild, like before
 standup today?
[21:11] <wxl> oh yeah i forgot about that
 I worked on that kernel panic bug
 That's it for me
[21:11] <wxl> let's do it
[21:11] <wxl> !standup
[21:12] <wxl> we'll otherwise ignore tsimonq2 :)
 Hi
[21:12] <lynorian> \o
[21:13] <wxl> anyone else?
[21:14] <wxl> ok let's get going then. you're up @HMollerCl
 ok
 fake .desktop for nm-applet already landed (default-settings)
 it's in xdg-lubuntu
 seed gave me an error whe using upgrade script in meta, I was adding network-manager-gnome
[21:15] <wxl> did you not see my explanation of how to fix that?
 removing disco I suppose
[21:15] <wxl> well replacing it with eoan
 yeah,
[21:15] <wxl> there's two instances in the update.cfg file
[21:16] <wxl> feel free to commit those all in one revision and i'll land it for you
 ow, will looka at that either, I need to be in a non blocked ssh computer yo see that.
[21:16] <wxl> i hear you
 i will see if I can see it tonight
[21:17] <wxl> meanwhile, you can publicly chastise tsimonq2 for not doing his job right on that one. no ssh needed XD
 jejeje
 when that's ready I can modify nm-tray to use nm-connection-edit instead of nmtui
[21:18] <wxl> i can get that landed for you quick and easy
 I could make contact with ubuconlan, but they haven't told me if my presentation is aproved
 UbuConLa*
[21:19] <wxl> they probably won't until the call for papers ends
 yea, I think so.
[21:19] <lynorian> and then take a while after looking at them
[21:19] <wxl> ^^ that, too
[21:19] <wxl> anything else?
 yes, I suppose, but I', in cotact with thme now
 and I haven't had time to look at moving nm-tray that's in debian sid to ubuntu.
[21:20] <wxl> oh the merge right
 AAAA and I need to bother simon on making lubuntu-upgrade-notification added to repo
[21:20] <wxl> if you get some free time, perhaps we can try to put our heads together on that one
[21:20] <wxl> meaning we need to get a repo in phab?
 thanks!
[21:21] <wxl> i'm not experienced in merges but i think i can work my way through it and i could use the experience
 I was also hoping that nm-tray publish a new release with the dark icons fixed, so we don't have to patch it.
[21:21] <wxl> did you issue an upstream pull request?
 no, how did I do that?
 agaida is building for debian.
[21:23] <wxl> we'll talk about that after the meeting
 ok, thanks
 that will be on my side then
 EOF
[21:23] <wxl> great work, thanks!
[21:23] <wxl> lyn you're up
[21:23] <lynorian> I have done lots of work on the manual
[21:23] <lynorian> Added modifier tab in qpdfview with screenshot
[21:23] <lynorian> open in file manager from qtransmission
[21:23] <lynorian> More screenshots for each desktop prefrences 
[21:23] <lynorian> Added more screenshots to users-groups
[21:23] <lynorian> More styling on software sources
[21:23] <lynorian> remove more hardcoded 18.10 stuff
[21:23] <lynorian> Rewording blurbs on status columns.
[21:23] <lynorian> Work on color picker, spacer, and sensors
[21:24] <lynorian> filed bug  1833118 on featherpad
[21:24] <lynorian> detailed print from featherpad
[21:24] <lynorian> new way to get new tabs
[21:24]  * lynorian added /me to quassel
[21:24] <lynorian> screenshots in pcmanfm-qt 
[21:24] <lynorian> Rework of qlipper
[21:24] <lynorian> add notes on volume output to pavucontrol-qt
[21:24] <lynorian> Work on manually changing time 
[21:24]  * wxl :)
[21:25] <wxl> *ironic tone* is that all?
[21:25] <lynorian> I condensed multiple commits and used a note in noblenote to make it more consise
 that featherpad bug, should be made on github?
[21:25] <lynorian> many small changes
[21:26] <lynorian> I think it might 
 I mean, do they look launchpad?
[21:26] <lynorian> not sure
[21:26] <wxl> @HMollerCl yes i plan on triaging but haven't got to it yet
[21:26] <lynorian> I mean the initramfs way more important
[21:26] <wxl> in general i would assume that no upstream ever looks at launchpad. the only exception is agaida and even then he rarely supplies anything constructive XD
[21:27] <lynorian> ^
[21:27] <wxl> thanks for the paste, lyn. that'll help grease the wheels on these meetings. anything else to add?
[21:28] <lynorian> nope
[21:28] <wxl> thanks again for all the great work. i can't say enough how much i appreciate what you're doing
[21:31] <wxl> 1s
[21:34] <kc2bez> Oh Snoopy it is Thursday
[21:34]  * kc2bez sighs
[21:34] <wxl[m]> Flexing sponsorship muscles
[21:34] <kc2bez> sorry I am late
[21:34] <wxl[m]> * COMMITS * Accepted network-manager-gnome to seed https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEEDaf3d2c7f3ea1c1375b29ec81e806fb3bf6596170 * Sponsored change to make nm-applet not autostart which took some faffing around with missing translations https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/19.10.2 * Sponsored new upstream release of calamares https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.7-0ubuntu1 * Sponsored TJ's fix for the kernel
[21:34] <wxl[m]> panic https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/1:19.10.2
[21:35] <wxl[m]> * OTHER UPSTREAM * Submitted pull request to fix screengrab instructions https://github.com/lxqt/screengrab/pull/162 * Since KDE pushed back, submitted bug re: DND between ark and pcmanfm-qt https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/977 * Filed an issue about several issues with the snap to border function in screengrab https://github.com/lxqt/screengrab/issues/163 * MISCELLANEOUS * Retooted about updated Lubuntu emoji
[21:35] <wxl[m]> https://git.tyil.nl/tyil/emoji-os/commit/656657a054b9abdee5f7352adeddb32c5d3c0dbb
[21:35] <wxl[m]> That's it for me
[21:35] <wxl[m]> Bbl
 Still looking for an easier Python or JS task. Waiting on that Ubuntu dev for the iso tester answer.
[21:42]  * lynorian needs to get groceries
 wxl: so, how should I du that upstream pull request for new release?
[22:50] <wxl[m]> @HMollerCl upstream is on GitHub. Have you ever done pull requests there, meaning you start off forking the project?
 I've forked but never done anything with the code
 more like, doing my personal copy to test
 https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray
 but I know that agaida has done the building in debian
 last release was 12oct2018, and prior that 9jul and 5 jul.
[22:56] <wxl[m]> So yeah fork it and make your changes and push it to your copy. Let me know when that is done and we'll take the next step
[23:11] <TJ-> Anything less taxing I can tackle? :p
[23:21] <wxl> TJ-: we've got all sorts of little things https://phab.lubuntu.me/T41
[23:31] <wxl> @tsimonq2: ok, here's a question for you. so in eoan we went from libfm-qt 0.14.1-0ubuntu2 to -8ubuntu1. that last change included a change we want to SRU into disco, which is at -0ubuntu2. my guess is i probably don't want to pull in all of the changes between those two. in fact, the change happened in -6. so what version number do i give my change? -6ubuntu0???
[23:34] <TJ-> wxl: would the additional changes from -6 to -8 make a lot of difference? I wonder if it'd make sense to have the same version in both to simplify support/maintenance?
[23:36] <wxl> TJ-: in light of it being an SRU (though thankfully not an LTS) i'm a little concerned about the size of the diff https://launchpadlibrarian.net/425152824/libfm-qt_0.14.1-0ubuntu2_0.14.1-8ubuntu1.diff.gz
[23:38] <TJ-> wxl: the diff from -6 to -8 looks to be mainly packaging
[23:39] <TJ-> wxl: I've not seen it but the sound of the Glib recursion error sounds like something I'd want
[23:39] <wxl> ok well i guess i'll give it a go and see if i get yelled at XD
[23:40] <teward> wow TJ-
[23:40] <teward> tackling Lubuntu tasks now lol?
[23:40] <teward> xD
[23:40] <TJ-> you could git-diff the -6 to -8 
[23:40] <TJ-> teward: not quite, jsut some light relief from difficult stuff :)
[23:40] <wxl> we've got someone from server and now someone from kernel.. we're moving on up XD
[23:40] <teward> heh indeed
[23:40] <teward> wxl: and Ubuntu Studio gained a 'helper' in the process xD
[23:40] <wxl> right
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> So yeah fork it and make your changes and push it to your copy. Let me …], but then we will package my copy?
[23:42] <wxl> @HMollerCl we'll make a pull request. if palinek (or some other maintainer) accepts it, it will inevitably get packaged. we don't necessarily have to go through agaida
 but palinek already fixed the icon issue. I don't need to touch the code.
[23:43] <wxl> oh
 The thing is that he hasn't made a released
[23:44] <wxl> we could always grab the patch
 so,that fix isn't in debian
[23:44] <wxl> but i guess we've already fixed it
[23:44] <wxl> it will come down eventually
 no, we have not.
[23:44] <wxl> we didn't? isn't that what i sponsored for you?
[23:45] <wxl> if not, let's grab the patch!
 nope, that is for using nm-connectior-editor instead of nmtui
 but, for the patch, we need to move to nm-tray 0.4.2 which is in sid but not in ubuntu
[23:46] <teward> that'd probably require coordination with the rest of the variant teams no?
[23:46] <wxl> are you sure it doesn't work with the version we have?
[23:46] <teward> AIUI nm-tray is part of a few things
[23:46] <wxl> other nm stuff, yes. nm-tray no
 @wxl [<wxl> are you sure it doesn't work with the version we have?], no, I'm not sure, but isn't it better to solve that first?
[23:47] <wxl> it depends on when the release is going to come. if it doesn't come before our release, that obviously doesn't work well for us
 https://merges.ubuntu.com/n/nm-tray/REPORT
[23:48] <wxl> oh i bet those are easily resolved
 I think it's better to move to 0.4.2 first, it appears to be easy to resolve but I haven't had time to look it well
 This is what @tsimonq2 told me, but I haven't spend much time on it:
 Current version in Ubuntu is 1.2.3-1ubuntu1. Grab both that and 1.2.3-1 from Debian, and do debdiff 1.2.3-1.dsc 1.2.3-1ubuntu1.dsc … Grab the latest Debian version, let's say 1.2.3-2. Apply the diff you created in the previous step to the Debian packaging. Create a changelog entry, do a source build, and check the diff again. Does t
[23:55] <wxl> i know. he loves entirely vague instructions
[23:55] <wxl> you might want to grab https://merges.ubuntu.com/n/nm-tray/nm-tray_0.4.2-1ubuntu1.src.tar.gz
[23:56] <wxl> in that, for example, look at CMakeLists.txt. you'll see immediately a line with <<<<<<<
[23:57] <wxl> that's saying the next line is related to that one (it's .1-0ubuntu1)
[23:57] <wxl> then there's a [23:58] <wxl> then after the next line there's a >>>>>>> which is the end of the differences
[23:58] <wxl> so that line after the [23:58] <wxl> so in this case it's related to the NM_TRAY_VERSION
[23:59] <wxl> obviously that's not going to merge well because they're not the same. we basically need to pick one
[23:59] <wxl> these are the "diff3 conflict markers" which the report mentions