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cyphermox#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jun 20 15:02:11 2019 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:02
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:02
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cyphermox#topic Lightning rounds15:02
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cyphermoxecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:02
* vorlon waves15:02
cyphermoxvorlon doko sil2100 mwhudson bdmurray infinity xnox cyphermox tdaitx juliank rbalint waveform15:02
vorlonoh noes15:02
rbalintvorlon noes15:03
cyphermoxdoko nopes?15:03
vorloncyphermox: come back to me15:03
cyphermoxyup15:03
cyphermoxdoko:15:03
julianko/15:04
cyphermoxguess he might have noped15:04
bdmurraysil2100 is on a holiday15:04
cyphermoxwho'se there?15:04
bdmurrayI'm here15:04
cyphermoxbdmurray: your turn then15:04
bdmurrayoh yess!15:04
vorloncyphermox: I can go whenever15:04
bdmurrayworked with webops to resolve issues w/ cassandra and units connecting15:05
bdmurrayreviewed sil2100's MP regarding additional sru removal suggestions15:05
bdmurrayreviewed, merged, uploaded deb2snap DistUpgradeQuirk improvement (LP: #1831933)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1831933 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Disco) "do-release-upgrade tries to install snaps even if it knows it can't reach the snapstore" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183193315:05
bdmurrayreviewed, merged, uploaded release version translation fix (LP: #1727472)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1727472 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "[RFE] Automatically update the Ubuntu version string in ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172747215:05
bdmurraydiscussed with mvo c-n-f-extractor mlocate / locate change15:05
bdmurraytested dropping of u-r-u's obsolete kernel removal code (LP: #1828100)15:05
bdmurrayinvestigation into having u-r-u understand architectures in meta-release15:05
bdmurrayuploaded eoan fixes for LP: #1829968, LP: #182400515:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1828100 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "KernelRemoval section of DistUpgrade.cfg shouldn't require manual updating" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182810015:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Bionic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182996815:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824005 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "installing / refreshing snap impossible to translate" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182400515:05
bdmurray✔ done15:05
bdmurrayvorlon: how about now?15:05
vorlon * announced the dropping of i386; fielding feedback15:05
vorlon * meeting to confirm plans around OVS support in netplan15:05
vorlon * discussions around difficult fwupd SRU to bionic15:05
vorlon * netplan schema introspection: spec review/agreement15:05
vorlon * planning for UC20 sprint next week15:05
vorlon * upcoming:15:05
vorlon  * off tomorrow15:05
vorlon  * in London next week15:06
vorlon(done)15:06
cyphermoxxnox:15:06
xnox* secureboot signed s390-tools migrated15:06
xnox* fix s390-tools ftbfs (submitted upstream too)15:06
xnox* working on staruprd for uc2015:06
xnox* working on core20 snap being able to build in lp/eoan15:06
xnox* working on multipath -part* vs s390x and encrypted systems15:06
xnox* more subiquity/casper fun for s390x15:06
xnox* UC20 sprint next week15:06
xnox(done)15:06
cyphermoxcyphermox:15:06
cyphermoxMIR review: finishing probert review15:07
cyphermoxinvestigating edk2/ovmf black screen with secboot.fd firmware15:07
xnoxStartUpRD15:07
cyphermoxnetplan specs15:07
cyphermoxfinishing grub2 merge15:07
cyphermox(done)15:07
cyphermoxtdaitx:15:07
cyphermoxrbalint:15:08
rbalint(short week)15:08
rbalint* updated kerneloops with new upstream snapshot and few fixes in Debian15:08
rbalint* filed and provided patch for https://bugs.debian.org/93065415:08
ubottuDebian bug 930654 in base-files "base-files: mesg: ttyname failed: No such device" [Normal,Open]15:08
rbalint* partner work15:08
rbalint* meetings and discussions15:08
rbalint(done)15:08
cyphermoxwaveform:15:08
waveform* off on Monday15:09
waveform* working on PR for pi3-gadget to use flash-kernel's new RPi bootscript; may require SRU of flash-kernel (it's currently using bionic as a package source)15:09
waveform* dissected core's u-boot environment (several versions) to determine what is specific to it, and whether it's feasible to have a single bootscript for core+classic (it is, but we need some extra bits to support their kernel params and splash screen)15:09
waveform* checked Core on CM3+; it doesn't work - firmware out of date, commit in the works15:09
waveform* replicated bluetooth issues on 3B+, haven't found time to dig into why yet15:09
waveform* responded to comments on pi image building instructions15:09
waveform(done)15:09
cyphermoxthanks!15:10
cyphermox#topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)15:10
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cyphermox#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:10
bdmurraySo I see a bunch of ftbfs bugs in there but I thought we'd said they go straight to cards15:11
bdmurrayvorlon: ^^15:12
vorlonack, I'll card 'em now15:12
bdmurrayWell it'd be nice if that step got done with the bug filing15:12
bdmurraybug 183265115:12
ubottubug 1832651 in systemd (Ubuntu) "jackdbus fails to start: cannot allocate memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183265115:12
rbalintbdmurray, i think we just card the ftbfs and pick them, but not at the meeting15:13
bdmurrayrbalint: my point was when the ftbfs bug is filed a card should also be created15:14
bdmurrayxnox: that's a systemd bug and I think there's an upstream fix15:14
xnoxok15:15
xnoxbdmurray:  target15:16
bdmurrayso all the undecided ones are ftbfs15:17
cyphermoxgrub2 is irrelevant, it's not going to be ftbfs when I'm done with it.15:17
vorlonindeed15:17
cyphermoxactually, it is right now for me (I had exactly those issues), but that's what I'm fixing atm15:18
cyphermox(claiming)15:18
vorlonI'll fix up the rest15:19
bdmurraycyphermox: I forget what did we say about bug 1706859?15:19
ubottubug 1706859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "Auto-selected keyboard layout no longer matches chosen region on "Where are you" page" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/170685915:19
cyphermoxI think I said I was going to test it, figure out if it's indeed what I think, picking language in ubiquity screens vs. in gfxboot15:20
cyphermox(so, preseeding)15:20
bdmurraythat sounds familiar15:20
bdmurrayso we leave that pending testing15:20
bdmurraybug 1783597 has a question about revising minimum installation space for preinstalled snaps15:21
ubottubug 1783597 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "The disk-space-needed estimate doesn't account for the snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178359715:21
cyphermoxyeah15:21
cyphermoxthat one was because there's an open question whether we should also revisit minimum space hints in installers15:21
bdmurrayvorlon: Do you think we should just bump the space needed or maybe check to see if we should?15:21
bdmurraye.g. do a minimum install and see what happens15:21
vorlonprobably the latter15:22
bdmurrayokay, I'll test that15:22
bdmurrayI think that's good for rls-ee bugs15:23
cyphermox#topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)15:23
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cyphermox#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:23
cyphermoxone bug in that list15:23
rbalinthow can we tell the needed space for snaps in advance when there are debs pulling in snaps in postinst?15:23
vorlonthat's not how our images should be configured; snaps should be getting directly seeded15:24
juliankshould we add an extra fields to debs?15:25
rbalintjuliank, that could work15:25
rbalintlike extra space needed for the package15:26
juliankXB-Extra-Install-Size: <kb>15:26
rbalintthis could also be useful for other dynamic data15:26
juliankIt might also be a useful estimate for packages that might create huge files15:26
juliankor flash installer or stuff15:26
rbalint:-D15:26
rbalintjuliank, seems we agree :-)15:27
juliankack15:28
* juliank speaks with his crazy APT maintainer hat15:28
cyphermoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/150971715:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1509717 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "Wily LVM-RAID1 – md: personality for level 1 is not loaded" [High,In progress]15:34
bdmurraySo old15:34
cyphermox^ bb incoming bug15:34
gaughenI see it's assigned to apw15:36
gaughenis this something foundations should look to address?  do we agree that now we have comment #7 should we do it?15:37
cyphermoxso; tracking or not?15:37
gaughenso xnox it's an sru of lvm2?15:37
cyphermoxxnox: are you volunteering for it?15:37
xnoxcyphermox:  no, enotime15:38
xnoxi can do it in august15:38
cyphermoxack15:38
vorlonbut it's a small change15:38
vorlonit's just a little wafer15:38
bdmurrayso let's track and card that then15:38
vorlonok I'll do15:38
bdmurrayand unassign Andy15:39
cyphermoxok; moving on then15:39
cyphermox#topic Team proposed-migration report15:39
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xnoxvorlon:  btw, should i sru openssl postinst fix for people who purged debconf database?15:39
cyphermox#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:39
xnoxvorlon:  or just push openssl to security, and let everyone explode?!15:40
vorlonxnox: you mean fix the .templates?15:40
vorlonthere is no postinst change required15:40
gaughenxnox, vorlon let's chat more about this one when we get to AOB15:40
vorlonand yes it should be fixed15:40
gaughenapt is blocked on apt15:40
gaughenjuliank is on it15:41
juliankupstream apt maintainer me will be doing a new release soon15:41
juliankalso python-apt update is needed, see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/apt.html15:42
juliankalso could someone remove debian-xcontrol, aptsh, and goplay from eoan? thanks!15:42
juliank(I filed bugs they are listed in #u-release somewhere)15:43
cyphermoxok; that's it then?15:44
cyphermox#topic Chair selection for next meeting15:44
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cyphermoxwho's the victim?15:44
bdmurrayIs AOB after chair?15:44
cyphermoxyes15:44
rbalintcyphermox, shuf? :-)15:45
cyphermoxI nominate sil2100 because he's not here to defend himself?15:45
cyphermox(that's what I did, shuf)15:45
juliank+115:45
bdmurray+115:45
xnoxseconded15:45
rbalint+seconded15:45
cyphermoxshuf is going to be fair but not fun though; if you happen to be unlucky15:45
cyphermoxok, sil2100 is next chair, or we'll figure out something15:46
cyphermox#topic AOB15:46
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juliankhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ15:46
cyphermoxthat's a good song!15:46
bdmurraycyphermox: You are out on Monday right?15:47
cyphermoxyes, I'm out for the next two Mondays15:48
juliankJFTR: I'm not here - I'm out today and tomorrow15:48
juliankAll I did today was wash my bicycle15:48
cyphermoxbdmurray: but, hey, Mondays are the worst15:48
cyphermoxand now I want lasagna15:48
cyphermoxany other other business?15:49
juliankend of aob15:49
vorlonnothing else here15:49
cyphermoxwinnitude!15:50
cyphermox#endmeeting15:50
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jun 20 15:50:02 2019 UTC.15:50
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-06-20-15.02.moin.txt15:50
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cyphermoxthanks everyone!15:50
vorlonthanks!15:51
gaughenthank you cyphermox!16:01
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