[15:00] <rbalint> o/
[15:02] <cyphermox> o/
[15:02] <waveform> \o
[15:02] <cyphermox> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 20 15:02:11 2019 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:02] <cyphermox> #topic Lightning rounds
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[15:02] <cyphermox> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[15:02]  * vorlon waves
[15:02] <cyphermox> vorlon doko sil2100 mwhudson bdmurray infinity xnox cyphermox tdaitx juliank rbalint waveform
[15:02] <vorlon> oh noes
[15:03] <rbalint> vorlon noes
[15:03] <cyphermox> doko nopes?
[15:03] <vorlon> cyphermox: come back to me
[15:03] <cyphermox> yup
[15:03] <cyphermox> doko:
[15:04] <juliank> o/
[15:04] <cyphermox> guess he might have noped
[15:04] <bdmurray> sil2100 is on a holiday
[15:04] <cyphermox> who'se there?
[15:04] <bdmurray> I'm here
[15:04] <cyphermox> bdmurray: your turn then
[15:04] <bdmurray> oh yess!
[15:04] <vorlon> cyphermox: I can go whenever
[15:05] <bdmurray> worked with webops to resolve issues w/ cassandra and units connecting
[15:05] <bdmurray> reviewed sil2100's MP regarding additional sru removal suggestions
[15:05] <bdmurray> reviewed, merged, uploaded deb2snap DistUpgradeQuirk improvement (LP: #1831933)
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1831933 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Disco) "do-release-upgrade tries to install snaps even if it knows it can't reach the snapstore" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831933
[15:05] <bdmurray> reviewed, merged, uploaded release version translation fix (LP: #1727472)
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1727472 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "[RFE] Automatically update the Ubuntu version string in ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727472
[15:05] <bdmurray> discussed with mvo c-n-f-extractor mlocate / locate change
[15:05] <bdmurray> tested dropping of u-r-u's obsolete kernel removal code (LP: #1828100)
[15:05] <bdmurray> investigation into having u-r-u understand architectures in meta-release
[15:05] <bdmurray> uploaded eoan fixes for LP: #1829968, LP: #1824005
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1828100 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "KernelRemoval section of DistUpgrade.cfg shouldn't require manual updating" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828100
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Bionic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829968
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1824005 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "installing / refreshing snap impossible to translate" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824005
[15:05] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:05] <bdmurray> vorlon: how about now?
[15:05] <vorlon>  * announced the dropping of i386; fielding feedback
[15:05] <vorlon>  * meeting to confirm plans around OVS support in netplan
[15:05] <vorlon>  * discussions around difficult fwupd SRU to bionic
[15:05] <vorlon>  * netplan schema introspection: spec review/agreement
[15:05] <vorlon>  * planning for UC20 sprint next week
[15:05] <vorlon>  * upcoming:
[15:05] <vorlon>   * off tomorrow
[15:06] <vorlon>   * in London next week
[15:06] <vorlon> (done)
[15:06] <cyphermox> xnox:
[15:06] <xnox> * secureboot signed s390-tools migrated
[15:06] <xnox> * fix s390-tools ftbfs (submitted upstream too)
[15:06] <xnox> * working on staruprd for uc20
[15:06] <xnox> * working on core20 snap being able to build in lp/eoan
[15:06] <xnox> * working on multipath -part* vs s390x and encrypted systems
[15:06] <xnox> * more subiquity/casper fun for s390x
[15:06] <xnox> * UC20 sprint next week
[15:06] <xnox> (done)
[15:06] <cyphermox> cyphermox:
[15:07] <cyphermox> MIR review: finishing probert review
[15:07] <cyphermox> investigating edk2/ovmf black screen with secboot.fd firmware
[15:07] <xnox> StartUpRD
[15:07] <cyphermox> netplan specs
[15:07] <cyphermox> finishing grub2 merge
[15:07] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:07] <cyphermox> tdaitx:
[15:08] <cyphermox> rbalint:
[15:08] <rbalint> (short week)
[15:08] <rbalint> * updated kerneloops with new upstream snapshot and few fixes in Debian
[15:08] <rbalint> * filed and provided patch for https://bugs.debian.org/930654
[15:08] <ubottu> Debian bug 930654 in base-files "base-files: mesg: ttyname failed: No such device" [Normal,Open]
[15:08] <rbalint> * partner work
[15:08] <rbalint> * meetings and discussions
[15:08] <rbalint> (done)
[15:08] <cyphermox> waveform:
[15:09] <waveform> * off on Monday
[15:09] <waveform> * working on PR for pi3-gadget to use flash-kernel's new RPi bootscript; may require SRU of flash-kernel (it's currently using bionic as a package source)
[15:09] <waveform> * dissected core's u-boot environment (several versions) to determine what is specific to it, and whether it's feasible to have a single bootscript for core+classic (it is, but we need some extra bits to support their kernel params and splash screen)
[15:09] <waveform> * checked Core on CM3+; it doesn't work - firmware out of date, commit in the works
[15:09] <waveform> * replicated bluetooth issues on 3B+, haven't found time to dig into why yet
[15:09] <waveform> * responded to comments on pi image building instructions
[15:09] <waveform> (done)
[15:10] <cyphermox> thanks!
[15:10] <cyphermox> #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)
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[15:10] <cyphermox> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:11] <bdmurray> So I see a bunch of ftbfs bugs in there but I thought we'd said they go straight to cards
[15:12] <bdmurray> vorlon: ^^
[15:12] <vorlon> ack, I'll card 'em now
[15:12] <bdmurray> Well it'd be nice if that step got done with the bug filing
[15:12] <bdmurray> bug 1832651
[15:12] <ubottu> bug 1832651 in systemd (Ubuntu) "jackdbus fails to start: cannot allocate memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832651
[15:13] <rbalint> bdmurray, i think we just card the ftbfs and pick them, but not at the meeting
[15:14] <bdmurray> rbalint: my point was when the ftbfs bug is filed a card should also be created
[15:14] <bdmurray> xnox: that's a systemd bug and I think there's an upstream fix
[15:15] <xnox> ok
[15:16] <xnox> bdmurray:  target
[15:17] <bdmurray> so all the undecided ones are ftbfs
[15:17] <cyphermox> grub2 is irrelevant, it's not going to be ftbfs when I'm done with it.
[15:17] <vorlon> indeed
[15:18] <cyphermox> actually, it is right now for me (I had exactly those issues), but that's what I'm fixing atm
[15:18] <cyphermox> (claiming)
[15:19] <vorlon> I'll fix up the rest
[15:19] <bdmurray> cyphermox: I forget what did we say about bug 1706859?
[15:19] <ubottu> bug 1706859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "Auto-selected keyboard layout no longer matches chosen region on "Where are you" page" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706859
[15:20] <cyphermox> I think I said I was going to test it, figure out if it's indeed what I think, picking language in ubiquity screens vs. in gfxboot
[15:20] <cyphermox> (so, preseeding)
[15:20] <bdmurray> that sounds familiar
[15:20] <bdmurray> so we leave that pending testing
[15:21] <bdmurray> bug 1783597 has a question about revising minimum installation space for preinstalled snaps
[15:21] <ubottu> bug 1783597 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "The disk-space-needed estimate doesn't account for the snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783597
[15:21] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:21] <cyphermox> that one was because there's an open question whether we should also revisit minimum space hints in installers
[15:21] <bdmurray> vorlon: Do you think we should just bump the space needed or maybe check to see if we should?
[15:21] <bdmurray> e.g. do a minimum install and see what happens
[15:22] <vorlon> probably the latter
[15:22] <bdmurray> okay, I'll test that
[15:23] <bdmurray> I think that's good for rls-ee bugs
[15:23] <cyphermox> #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)
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[15:23] <cyphermox> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:23] <cyphermox> one bug in that list
[15:23] <rbalint> how can we tell the needed space for snaps in advance when there are debs pulling in snaps in postinst?
[15:24] <vorlon> that's not how our images should be configured; snaps should be getting directly seeded
[15:25] <juliank> should we add an extra fields to debs?
[15:25] <rbalint> juliank, that could work
[15:26] <rbalint> like extra space needed for the package
[15:26] <juliank> XB-Extra-Install-Size: <kb>
[15:26] <rbalint> this could also be useful for other dynamic data
[15:26] <juliank> It might also be a useful estimate for packages that might create huge files
[15:26] <juliank> or flash installer or stuff
[15:26] <rbalint> :-D
[15:27] <rbalint> juliank, seems we agree :-)
[15:28] <juliank> ack
[15:28]  * juliank speaks with his crazy APT maintainer hat
[15:34] <cyphermox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1509717
[15:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1509717 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "Wily LVM-RAID1 – md: personality for level 1 is not loaded" [High,In progress]
[15:34] <bdmurray> So old
[15:34] <cyphermox> ^ bb incoming bug
[15:36] <gaughen> I see it's assigned to apw
[15:37] <gaughen> is this something foundations should look to address?  do we agree that now we have comment #7 should we do it?
[15:37] <cyphermox> so; tracking or not?
[15:37] <gaughen> so xnox it's an sru of lvm2?
[15:37] <cyphermox> xnox: are you volunteering for it?
[15:38] <xnox> cyphermox:  no, enotime
[15:38] <xnox> i can do it in august
[15:38] <cyphermox> ack
[15:38] <vorlon> but it's a small change
[15:38] <vorlon> it's just a little wafer
[15:38] <bdmurray> so let's track and card that then
[15:38] <vorlon> ok I'll do
[15:39] <bdmurray> and unassign Andy
[15:39] <cyphermox> ok; moving on then
[15:39] <cyphermox> #topic Team proposed-migration report
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[15:39] <xnox> vorlon:  btw, should i sru openssl postinst fix for people who purged debconf database?
[15:39] <cyphermox> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:40] <xnox> vorlon:  or just push openssl to security, and let everyone explode?!
[15:40] <vorlon> xnox: you mean fix the .templates?
[15:40] <vorlon> there is no postinst change required
[15:40] <gaughen> xnox, vorlon let's chat more about this one when we get to AOB
[15:40] <vorlon> and yes it should be fixed
[15:40] <gaughen> apt is blocked on apt
[15:41] <gaughen> juliank is on it
[15:41] <juliank> upstream apt maintainer me will be doing a new release soon
[15:42] <juliank> also python-apt update is needed, see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/apt.html
[15:42] <juliank> also could someone remove debian-xcontrol, aptsh, and goplay from eoan? thanks!
[15:43] <juliank> (I filed bugs they are listed in #u-release somewhere)
[15:44] <cyphermox> ok; that's it then?
[15:44] <cyphermox> #topic Chair selection for next meeting
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[15:44] <cyphermox> who's the victim?
[15:44] <bdmurray> Is AOB after chair?
[15:44] <cyphermox> yes
[15:45] <rbalint> cyphermox, shuf? :-)
[15:45] <cyphermox> I nominate sil2100 because he's not here to defend himself?
[15:45] <cyphermox> (that's what I did, shuf)
[15:45] <juliank> +1
[15:45] <bdmurray> +1
[15:45] <xnox> seconded
[15:45] <rbalint> +seconded
[15:45] <cyphermox> shuf is going to be fair but not fun though; if you happen to be unlucky
[15:46] <cyphermox> ok, sil2100 is next chair, or we'll figure out something
[15:46] <cyphermox> #topic AOB
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[15:46] <juliank> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[15:46] <cyphermox> that's a good song!
[15:47] <bdmurray> cyphermox: You are out on Monday right?
[15:48] <cyphermox> yes, I'm out for the next two Mondays
[15:48] <juliank> JFTR: I'm not here - I'm out today and tomorrow
[15:48] <juliank> All I did today was wash my bicycle
[15:48] <cyphermox> bdmurray: but, hey, Mondays are the worst
[15:48] <cyphermox> and now I want lasagna
[15:49] <cyphermox> any other other business?
[15:49] <juliank> end of aob
[15:49] <vorlon> nothing else here
[15:50] <cyphermox> winnitude!
[15:50] <cyphermox> #endmeeting
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[15:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 20 15:50:02 2019 UTC.
[15:50] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-06-20-15.02.moin.txt
[15:50] <rbalint> o/
[15:50] <cyphermox> thanks everyone!
[15:51] <vorlon> thanks!
[16:01] <gaughen> thank you cyphermox!
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