[05:09] in the morning lol [05:09] ERR:dead [05:10] Eickmeyer: don't have to answer right now... With respect to -controls, COPYING in the root directory is GPL2 but the debian/copyright file says gpl2+ [05:10] teward: always feel free to ignor us for the next day [05:11] Eickmeyer: which one is right? Or are they both? where one is just the text of gpl2 but gpl2+ is valid? [05:13] Eickmeyer: I am asking because I was going to include the files from https://github.com/jhernberg/udev-rtirq but I am noticing that it is gpl2.0 with no reference to later versions I can see [05:13] Eickmeyer: the headers in the files say gpl2 + [15:23] OvenWerks: They're both valid. GPL2+ literally means GPL2.0, GPL2.1, etc. [15:25] If you include udev-rtirq, whatever is added needs to be a separate copyright stanza in debian/copyright. [15:25] That doesn't have to be put into /COPYING. [15:25] So, let me worry about that. :) [15:26] Yes the original author needs to be credited for those files [15:28] I haven't talked to him for a while so I can't remember if it grabs the internal audio as well on boot (I think so) [15:31] Eickmeyer: also, you wanted to be able to set dummy channel quanity. Does that need to be different for playback/capture? or can they be the same? (one setting or two?) [15:32] OvenWerks: If you can make it different, that would be preferable. [15:32] If that's too hard, separate would be fine. [15:33] Eickmeyer: any particular limit? [15:34] 10 channels? 32? 128? [15:35] I guess 8 covers any surround standard [15:35] 128 should be a hard limit. Is this going to be a manual input variable or are we looking at a menu? [15:35] I'm thinking mixers, not necessarily direct output. [15:35] Roundtripping channels. [15:36] dummy outputs go to /dev/null effectively [15:36] I'm not sure what you mean. [15:36] what audio path do you envision? [15:37] with dummy my limited imagination goes pulse->jack playback and vice vesa [15:38] Yes, I understand that, but my usecase is setting stuff up before going live. For instance, I'd have dummy set-up 32 channels, then later on, plug via USB to a 32-channel mixer which gives access to all 32 in/outs. [15:39] Ah, that makes sense [15:39] I was going to use spinboxes [15:39] Most people would use dummy to pre-stage. [15:41] should Istart at 1 ch or 2? everything else in here expects 2, but I think connecting pulse right to a non-existant playback_2 would just fail and not crash because it is an external program [15:42] My one channel USB mic is ok. [15:47] I'd start at 1ch. [15:48] Interesting: both alsa and dummy can have channel count, but they both use different command line flags :) [15:49] So an alsa device can use fewer than all of it's channels. [15:50] unfortunately, I would want 1,2,3,4,9,10 :P [15:50] netone uses the same as alsa for channels. [15:59] Anyway, it looks like we can set channel numbers for everything. I notice my man page does not mention firewire backend [16:02] Cool.