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[05:10] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: don't have to answer right now... With respect to -controls, COPYING in the root directory is GPL2 but the debian/copyright file says gpl2+
[05:10] <OvenWerks> teward: always feel free to ignor us for the next day
[05:11] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: which one is right? Or are they both? where one is just the text of gpl2 but gpl2+ is valid?
[05:13] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I am asking because I was going to include the files from https://github.com/jhernberg/udev-rtirq but I am noticing that it is gpl2.0 with no reference to later versions I can see
[05:13] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: the headers in the files say gpl2 +
[15:23] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: They're both valid. GPL2+ literally means GPL2.0, GPL2.1, etc.
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> If you include udev-rtirq, whatever is added needs to be a separate copyright stanza in debian/copyright.
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> That doesn't have to be put into /COPYING.
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> So, let me worry about that. :)
[15:26] <OvenWerks> Yes the original author needs to be credited for those files
[15:28] <OvenWerks> I haven't talked to him for a while so I can't remember if it grabs the internal audio as well on boot (I think so)
[15:31] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: also, you wanted to be able to set dummy channel quanity. Does that need to be different for playback/capture? or can they be the same? (one setting or two?)
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: If you can make it different, that would be preferable.
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> If that's too hard, separate would be fine.
[15:33] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: any particular limit?
[15:34] <OvenWerks> 10 channels? 32? 128?
[15:35] <OvenWerks> I guess 8 covers any surround standard
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> 128 should be a hard limit. Is this going to be a manual input variable or are we looking at a menu?
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> I'm thinking mixers, not necessarily direct output.
[15:35] <Eickmeyer> Roundtripping channels.
[15:36] <OvenWerks> dummy outputs go to /dev/null effectively
[15:36] <OvenWerks> I'm not sure what you mean.
[15:36] <OvenWerks> what audio path do you envision?
[15:37] <OvenWerks> with dummy my limited imagination goes pulse->jack playback and vice vesa
[15:38] <Eickmeyer> Yes, I understand that, but my usecase is setting stuff up before going live. For instance, I'd have dummy set-up 32 channels, then later on, plug via USB to a 32-channel mixer which gives access to all 32 in/outs.
[15:39] <OvenWerks> Ah, that makes sense
[15:39] <OvenWerks> I was going to use spinboxes
[15:39] <Eickmeyer> Most people would use dummy to pre-stage.
[15:41] <OvenWerks> should Istart at 1 ch or 2? everything else in here expects 2, but I think connecting pulse right to a non-existant playback_2 would just fail and not crash because it is an external program
[15:42] <OvenWerks> My one channel USB mic is ok.
[15:47] <Eickmeyer> I'd start at 1ch.
[15:48] <OvenWerks> Interesting: both alsa and dummy can have channel count, but they both use different command line flags :)
[15:49] <OvenWerks> So an alsa device can use fewer than all of it's channels.
[15:50] <OvenWerks> unfortunately, I would want 1,2,3,4,9,10 :P
[15:50] <OvenWerks> netone uses the same as alsa for channels.
[15:59] <OvenWerks> Anyway, it looks like we can set channel numbers for everything. I notice my man page does not mention firewire backend
[16:02] <Eickmeyer> Cool.