 valorie is was just one person tweeting. nothing from Valve officially.
 plus SteamOS has been Debian based for a while.
[01:07] <valorie> right, nothing official
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4qLKzD3j/file_16071.jpg
 I'm still amazed by working public transportation.
[02:02] <Eickmeyer> valorie, @ahoneybun: At Valve, there's no such thing as a heirarchy, so that's about as official as it's going to get. There's no official PR person there. Everyone is an equal except for Gabe, that's the way the company runs.
 Mm I don't trust it.
[02:03] <valorie> we'll see what happens
 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/steam-announces-that-its-dropping-support-for-ubuntu
 :(
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[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:46]  * DarinMiller is waiting for Santa's completed network project pics...
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[14:52] <DarinMiller> Rik, regarding the Steam/Wine requiring 32b libraries.  I assume it would be possible to identlfy the subset of 32b libs for each wine/steam and just build those ilbraries? 
 Many things are possible
[14:53] <DarinMiller> Or is the issue more complicated where 32b ilbs are interdependent and require cascading builds...
 Fwd from acheronuk: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/i386-architecture-will-be-dropped-starting-with-eoan-ubuntu-19-10/11263/84 … ```vorlon: I’m sorry that we’ve given anyone the impression that we are “dropping support for i386 applications”. That’s simply not the case. What we are dropping is updates to the i386 libraries, which will be frozen at the 18.04 LTS versions. But there is every intention to ensure that t
[14:58] <DarinMiller> that's much better news than what's popping up in the "knee jerk reporting with no investigation" media sites.
 @IrcsomeBot, YES. I was about to post them yesterday in the night but I was so tired
 So, let's go, general map:
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/8bLfOiV0/file_16089.jpg
 Quick Spanish - English lesson: XD
 almacén - storage room
 :)
 sala (de estar) - living room
 cocina - kitchen
 attic - ático
 I like how you use a cognate for "velocities" when talking about network speed 😆
 I mean, it's technically accurate, because speed = velocity
 dormitorio (dor.) - sleeping room
 tejado - roof
 piedra - stone
 piso - floor
 bajo - "0th floor" (not sure what's the correct word in English)
 ground floor
 thank you. and indeed: velocidad - speed
 cable roto - broken cable
 todo bien - all good, or "it's all good"
 caja de registro - junction box
 toma rj-45 - rj-45 plug (wall plug)
 and I think that's it wrt translations, if you have doubts just ask
 once I realized it was side view vs top down, most everything was self explanatory
 Yep, so the thing is: internet comes from the street to the living room, which is where the router is located:
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/j2KMjvv8/file_16090.jpg
 very clean so far :)
 from there there is an ethernet cable which goes to the room marked in the "map" as "vd. está aquí" (meaning "you are here", because that's also where the board with the "map" is located):
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/hDFCCmDM/file_16091.jpg
 and as you can see there, there is a panel with 6 rj-45 plugs which works as a "patch panel" of a server room in a (serious) business building
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cVdX3hM7/file_16092.jpg
 as you can see, right now I just connected the living room with one room from the attic
 Also, as you can imagine I could put a switch and connect all the house, but I don't want to do it right now, because that would be adding a "single point of failure" for nothing. In other words, I can use a switch *only* if I want.
 So... finally there is an ethernet cable from the patch panel to the attic, which is where the "groomlake" server is located:
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/NDzVWiZX/file_16093.jpg
 Before that I had that server wireless connected, not cool. Now is much better.
 Some details about the "patch panel":
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Lnzdn4A5/file_16094.jpg
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/gfQ5q0Lb/file_16095.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/AqDZBkTX/file_16096.jpg
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Zf00IyKT/file_16097.jpg
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/j00S6uP6/file_16098.jpg
 very nice
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/7qh2jium/file_16099.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/bK2CP2tZ/file_16100.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4Ec03IwW/file_16101.jpg
 And that's it. I hope you liked it. It took so much effort but it was worth it.
 I keep debating to do something similar in my house, but all the speed dependent devices are within cable range of the router.  The TV is on the other side of the house and could use a hard line, but seems like a lot of work for something I use infequently.
[17:15] <mparillo> Is it pedantic to say that Americans say Velocity is a vector, while Speed is a scalar?
 For the few Americans who have taken a physics course, your statemnet holds true.  However, I suspect that's less than 1% of the American population has taken physica... so I would not gernailize thatas  an "American" assumption. :)
[17:43] <mparillo> So far, we are at !00%. OK, sample size of 2.
 so regarding kcalc and the new mpfr depens, does that mean libmpfr-dev/disco needs added to https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcalc/tree/debian/control?
 @DarinMiller, Its a change in KCalc master branch, so that would need to be added in our kubuntu_unstable packaging branch
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 So here... https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcalc/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_unstable
 yep
 any idea why "git clone kp:kalc" is throwing "fatal: remote error: Repository '~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kalc' not found."?
 my .gitconfig file has this for kp: [url "git+ssh://darinmiller@git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/"]    insteadof = kp:
 nm, kcalc not kalc
 https://code.launchpad.net/~darinmiller/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcalc/+merge/369214
 it's been awhile, so I suspect I may have missed something...
 @DarinMiller, You did something odd with dch, as you created a whole new changelog.dch file
 also woul be better to change the version to 19.07.70-0ubuntu1 so it does not look like a change for the current stable apps release
 my notes said to use "dch" in the commit proccess, then I was prompted to use nano and accidently killed nano....
 killing nano would do it!
 when I tried to run dch again it said a dch file existed to I just edited the .dch file manually.
 @acheronuk, How/where do I do I change the version?
 you could change it manually when doing the rest of the changelog, or you could start dch with ```dch -v 4:19.07.70-0ubuntu1```
 @DarinMiller in your new commit, you have somehow added a space at the beginning of the  of the kcalc (4:19.04.2-0ubuntu1) eoan; urgency=medium …  line
 Wowie, taking libs from 18.04 is even weirder idea
 Canonical, what are you doin? Stop that rn
 Meanwhile got my qtwebengine 5.13 built against the 5.12 Qt. Still needs some work to have a proper package, but I'm eager to test already
 ok, I'm back
 I think this one is fixed... https://code.launchpad.net/~darinmiller/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcalc/+merge/369215
 @DarinMiller, still got the broken space
 weird... checking....
 (Photo, 715x279) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/nlhbL0ip/file_16107.jpg
 oh! that's what you meant.... fixing...
 and again.... https://code.launchpad.net/~darinmiller/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kcalc/+merge/369216
 merged
 \o/
 :)
 I blindly followed your suggestion for the version naming (4:19.07.70-0ubuntu1) .  Where should I have looked to know 19.07.07 vs 19.08.00 and -0ubuntu1 vs 0ubuntu2 or 0ubuntu3?
 @DarinMiller, Its the current apps version in kde master branches … e.g. https://cgit.kde.org/kcalc.git/tree/CMakeLists.txt … set (KDE_APPLICATIONS_VERSION_MAJOR "19") … set (KDE_APPLICATIONS_VERSION_MINOR "07") … set (KDE_APPLICATIONS_VERSION_MICRO "70")
 when 19.08 beta gets done, that will bumpt to 19.07.80
 0ubuntu1 because it is the 1st ubuntu revision
 https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/17183919
 wow, that was fast
 why 0 in front of "0ubuntu1".  What would cause a rev of that number?
 that is the debian revision. 0 because they haven't released one yet
 👍
[20:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 @DarinMiller, wrt family debates, note that I got that whiteboard expressely for that XD
 that being said interesting test rebuild race going on:
 http://tritemio-groomlake.ddns.net/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html
 http://tritemio-area51.ddns.net/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html
 spoiler: groomlake is going to win
 What are the differences between the 2?
 groomlake is more modern am4 based area51 is a bit older am3 based
 also the former has better power supply and better motherboard, but some time ago they were somewhat par
 I have the impression a bios update improved the groomlake performance but I'm not completely sure
 strange.  I have never heard of BIOS update contributing to a perf improvement.  All the updates I see are crash preventions and HW compatiblity.
 or maybe it was a change in the bios config, or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to the perf the diff
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