[00:11] c [00:11] ec [00:15] what's the difference between connecting a BT device as a headset versus a handsfree? [00:20] what. i removed the discord snap and installed the discord-bartixxx snap. now i have two discords. [00:20] they both open separately [00:25] how do i know which is which [00:25] or just remove it twice/ [00:27] in light of how goofy snaps are... i think we need to allow swearing in this channel :( [00:45] hi, all of a sudden i am getting error in firefox while activating flash on sites: "this plugin is vulnerable and should be updated" Packages on Ubuntu 18.04 are all up to date. When i check the plugin, the version of shockwave player is 32.0.0.192 and the newer version is 32.0.0.207. Can anyone help explain this sudden red error outdated version since April 30 ? [01:11] seems to me that 192 is lower than 207 and you should update [01:11] it's not a package in ubuntu. it's a plugin inside firefox [01:13] hey, was dos2unix removed in 19.04? [01:15] shpx: no, it's still in the universe repository, same as usual [01:15] but I thought it used to be preinstalled [01:15] that's what I meant [01:16] nope [01:16] it was never preinstalled? [01:16] huh [01:16] thanks [01:17] Gallomimia, how would i update it inside firefox? ive never had to update shockwave player inside firefox. [01:19] i'm not sure. i avoid flash like the plague. cause it is. [01:20] but, in the top right of your ffx window, there's 3 lines. pick Addons from that menu [01:26] Gallomimia, are you saying i dont need it though? [01:27] miu5: no, we are saying that flash is a known source of problems. It is continuously abused for malware [01:28] what's a good laptop that supports kernel virtualization? [01:28] yes i am well aware about that hggdh but what im asking is, DO i need shockwave player, or not? is everything run with html5 nowadays can i remove shockwave player? [01:29] some sites still use flash. You can remove it, but YMMV. I do not use it, and accept that sometimes I will not be able to have the full "experience" [01:35] would this have something to do with the current message? https://helpx.adobe.com/shockwave/shockwave-end-of-life-faq.html [01:35] or current version error i am getting [01:38] miu5 [01:40] ? [01:43] miu5: as I understand it that's a different technology with a confusingly similar name [01:45] deltab, On the other hand i have no idea why i have shockwave player in firefox on ubuntu. Is there something else i can replace it with to use for flash sites? [01:47] After doing sudo apt install adobe-flashplugin in ubuntu, i have confirmed that shockwave flashplayer appears in firefox. So doing this on a test VM it shows the same old version, but no complaint about the version being outdated. Which is weird why its doing it all of a sudden on my browser. === zbenjamin is now known as Guest83976 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:49] miu5: does it actually say "shockwave player"? because I think that's a different thing [01:50] sorry it says Shockwave Flash. And thats the version thats showing outdated. [01:52] ok this is the issue i am having exactly ! https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=192510#p997914 [01:53] local repo of ubuntu says i have latest, but firefox says i have outdated. all of a sudden today [01:54] what version does it say is latest? [01:54] miu5: Up2date ? As I got FF updates this day. [01:54] https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/about/ latest is 32.0.0.207 [01:55] is that the version you have installed? [01:55] Bashing-om, yes up to date.. unless i must change to different update server? [01:55] no, on mine it says 32.0.0.192 [01:55] so it's not up to date [01:56] and even on a test VM, i did from scratch [01:56] it is.. according to the distro [01:56] then the distro has an outdated version [01:57] Yes, so basically.. this is the package being outdated on Ubuntu 18.04 ?? should i report this? [01:57] it's not uncommon for a distro to lag behind the upstream version [01:58] what version of adobe-flashplugin do you have installed? [01:58] adobe-flashplugin: [01:58] Installed: 1:20190514.1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 === kuanyui_ is now known as sarashina [02:01] nickware: ^ that is the latest I show " Candidate: 1:20190514.1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 " . [02:03] yes and so does it say here: https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ if you check linux 64bit. and download and open with software center, it is that version as well! However i get flash complaining on sites that version is outdated. which it is clearly. but linux distro is behind on the package updates. [02:04] i wonder when 32.0.0.207 came out [02:05] lol. remember when version 1 came out, and we played with the flash author tools, and then version 4 came out and we were all "such bloatware..." [02:09] miu5: looks like it was the 11th: https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb19-30.html [02:09] who really cares? they patch it like every damn day and tell us... "okay... NOW it's secure" [02:10] I would recommend turning it off completely, but you said "while activating flash on sites", so presumably you're still using it? [02:11] deltab, ok which means its recent, but not on the repo. Do you contact adobe for this issue? I can deactivate it for now. but i do need it for some sites at some point. [02:11] adobe can't do anything about the repo [02:12] unless the package is from their own repo [02:12] it's from canonicals' partner repo [02:12] that's the repository adobe points ubuntu users to as well [02:12] so where exactly do you post this bug/issue ? [02:13] hmm, not sure, let's see if we can find out [02:14] it's a repo? [02:14] i thought you download some file and insert it into the browser's plugins [02:14] well. shows what i know. i guess i've never actually used flash on linux [02:15] nope.. only after you install package adobe-flashplugin, will shockwave flash appear in firefox. [02:15] and yes its a repo. [02:16] but very hard to find this package. [02:16] vlc flickers webpage behind it through (randomly || every few seconds) : disco w. current updates [02:16] i'm too lazy to report it anywhere and no one is going to care anyhow so : i told someone :) [02:17] s/anywhere/anywhere else [02:18] i been having a few odd flickers too yes [02:18] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=adobe-flashplugin [02:18] Sorry, your search gave no results [02:18] lol [02:18] 11 days ago is very odd to find packages not maintained for that long [02:18] yeah exactly my point [02:19] and why is it not found under https://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?? [02:19] i think someone said it's not an official repo. it's a partner repo [02:19] ok [02:22] i have to go right now, but il be back later. deltab hope you be on later. [02:23] isn't it flashplugin-* or pepperflash* now? [02:24] guess it doesn't matter if he's gone anyhow, i'd assume he'd have already tried that [02:28] Gallomimia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Enabling_Canonical_Partner_Repositories [02:31] Update: it's not only webpage that flash through vlc [02:31] prob a known bug since vlc undoubtedly just uses xv or something [02:43] there is package "pepperflashplugin-nonfree" (from the Ubuntu multiverse repository) for the "PPAPI" web browser plugin interface chrome / chromium provide, and there is package adobe-flashplugin (from the canonical-partner repository) for the "NPAPI" web browser plugin interface firefox provides. [02:45] the caonoical-partner repository does currently provides flash player version 32.0.0.207 in the CODENAME-proposed pocket only. [02:48] * ZeZu yawns [02:48] I thought flash died years ago [02:49] it's been deprecated and getting removed bit by bit from the ecosystem for years. the final EOL is the end of 2020 [02:49] It's persist like herpes for another decade prob tho [02:50] dunno. i haven't had it installed for a decade and don't ever notice it being a problem [02:50] I haven't noticed it for ages either, even on windows i think chrome has it set to ask to even run it these days [02:51] yup. the last third-party stuff that needed flash at work migrated away from it when chrome did that [02:51] and starting next month, chrome's disabling it completely by default and requiring a settings change to run it, soooo [02:51] good [03:13] Howdy folks. Anyone else having trouble getting .NET3.5 + monodevelop working on 18.04? [03:13] I've gone through a deep dark hole, feel like I may have broken everything now :| [03:18] quixotic42: you'll have to contact support for that [03:18] Microsoft support [03:19] Haha. They're kind of the reason I went to linux in the first place :) Thanks. [03:20] quixotic42: right, but Ubuntu does not develop or manage the packages for .net3.5 [03:20] I think I need to read like a primer on the apt / package system, or synaptic/software updater. It all goes smoothly until I need an old version of something [03:21] No no, you're right about that. This is entirely a user problem when it comes to package management. [03:22] o.O [03:22] there are literally prob hundreds of primers on using apt [03:22] !latest | we usually tell this those who ask for very new version, but it also provides context possibly useful in your situation, quixotic42 [03:22] we usually tell this those who ask for very new version, but it also provides context possibly useful in your situation, quixotic42: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [03:23] I'm assuming you didn't have an issue installing monodevelop [03:23] but you have issues with a certain .net 'assembly' ? [03:24] quixotic42: actually this wasn't as useful as i was thinking, sorry. [03:25] The newer versions of monodevelop don't support 3.5, so I'm attempting to backport to 3.12. But the repo doesn't really go back that far for 18.04 === [b0b] is now known as b0b [03:25] are we talking actual .net runtime or mono ? [03:25] Mono. [03:25] well then it's not something to ask MS anyhow [03:26] nothing to do with them other than they came up with the api [03:26] So.... I edited sources.list.d to go back to a 3.12 snapshot, but I'm worried at a certain point I'm just copy-pasting crap off the internet. [03:26] be like trying to call them about wine support [03:26] Should I be using a different tool, or digging into how apt works better? [03:27] I have no clue how you edited the sources list , so idk, nor do i have a clue about monodevelop tbh [03:27] Either something is in the repo, or in a ppa and versioned so you can get what you want : or it's not [03:27] and then you make sure to purge it all , and download a binary package or the source [03:28] s/package/installer || flatpak || whatever else in binary form [03:28] I'm more curious to why an updated monodevelop would backpedal ? [03:28] and not handle 3.5? [03:29] doesn't seem like anything to do w. monodevelop itself [03:29] ( which is an IDE iirc ? ) [03:31] quixotic42: ^ [03:39] Meh. This has soaked up hours of my life. Installing an older working version of Mono absolutely isn't worth it :) Thanks/Sorry. [03:41] lol don't be, if you want to get into development cross platform I'd suggest something else [03:41] Qt is my preference, but c++ isn't to everyones liking [03:42] either way, you have to expect issues in things like this [03:42] linux is certainly not without it's pitfalls [03:42] much less trying to run .net , albeit through mono [03:43] s/run/develop for [on linux] [03:46] Yeah, I do a language similiar to Java in IntelliJ for work. Love it. There was something I saw broken in a C#/.NET thing, but it's annoying me less than the steps to a solution now. [03:49] :P [03:50] Oy. The newfound approachability of linux distros allows for people like me to stay ignorant. [04:45] hi guys, i just installed a custom kernel with acso using the following script (https://gist.github.com/mdPlusPlus/031ec2dac2295c9aaf1fc0b0e808e21a). Everything went well, but when i boot nvidia drivers are not loading. I tried to reinstall, but dkms fails to install the 418.56 driver on kernel 5.1.14. How can i get this working? Is the problem the kernel version? [04:46] jessequinn: we dont really support the use of own compiled kernels, use !mainline instead [04:47] well i need the acso patch. [04:48] jessequinn: if something isnt working on ubuntu, with an official kernel, consider filing a new !bug [04:48] it isnt about it not working. the acso patch allows me to group my immo properly so that i can do a gpu passthrough. [04:49] i understand jessequinn but once you edit kernels, we cant official support you anymore [04:49] i see. === alazy_ is now known as alazy [05:15] It would be nice if Ubuntu supported (insert my favorite backup program here (restic)) in the GUI [05:17] if only for the notifications [05:17] jmnoz: there's a restic snap if you like [05:18] I mean it would be cool if the default backup program could be replaced with restic so I would get notifications on my log in screen if backups are okay [05:19] jmnoz: make a !bug wishlist if you like [05:19] lotuspsychje: good idea thanks [05:20] jmnoz: paste the bug # here after, so we can change it to a wish [05:22] what would be the cause of my chrome browser not displaying colorful unicode symbols? [05:22] How do I check if Steam is installed through snap? [05:22] leonardus: df -h [05:23] `df -h | grep steam` isn't showing anything [05:23] leonardus: df -h [05:25] lotuspsychje: should I file it on ubuntu unity? [05:25] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/unity/+filebug ? [05:25] !bug [05:25] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [05:26] jmnoz: when you file a bug, please use ubuntu-bug packagename from terminal [05:26] jmnoz: this way it can add relevant info into your bug [05:26] leonardus: what shows ' snap list ' ? [05:28] not steam [05:28] I used ubuntu-bug unity and I believe it sent a bug report but I didn't get to add anything afaict [05:29] I’m trying to install this package: [05:29] https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/python3-venv [05:29] My Ubuntu box has no internet connection, so I’ll download the files and ship them in on a USB drive. [05:30] My question is, how do I find out what architecture I’m using so I can download the right version? When I do uname -m I get “x86_64”. [05:31] SoItBegins: x86_64 == 64 bit . [05:31] jmnoz: do you want your backup program only on 16.04? [05:31] Bashing-om: Yep. So am I amd64, arm64, or one of the other ones listed (armhf, ppc64el, s390x)? About the only thing I’m sure of is that I’m not i386. [05:32] jmnoz: 16.04? no I use 19.04, 18.04 and later [05:32] SoItBegins: 'demidecode' relates lots of info. [05:33] jmnoz: thats not what i asked [05:34] I want my backup program on as many versions as possible, sorry I don't understand [05:34] jmnoz: if your wish is to add it on all versions, better ubuntu-bug linux-image then [05:38] Bashing-om: Well, I’m running an intel processor (Intel . And I learned more about what it can do than I ever thought I could know. [05:38] Bashing-om: *(Intel Core i5-3470) [05:40] SoItBegins: So your Architecture target is AMD64 - (AMD cause they hold the patent on 64 bit). [05:40] Bashing-om: Got it! Thank you. [05:51] I’m trying to install the python-3.7-venv package. But it depends on itself! What gives?! [05:53] EDIT: I was trying to install python-3-venv, which depends on python-3.7-venv. Reading comprehension! [05:53] !info python-3.7-venv disco | SoItBegins [05:53] SoItBegins: Package python-3.7-venv does not exist in disco [05:54] SoItBegins: apt-cache search package, to find packages you want to install [05:54] lotuspsychje: Little problem: The ubuntu target machine has no internet connection. I need to get everything (incl. dependencies) ready and bring it across on a USB. [05:54] I’m really just trying to install pip, is all. [05:54] So that I can install some python modules. [05:55] SoItBegins: add your install media to software&sources [05:55] lotuspsychje: What install media? [05:55] SoItBegins: your usb/dvd you used to install ubuntu [05:55] I erased the USB drive that had the Ubuntu 19.04 image so I could use it to transfer files normally [05:56] (Yeah, I know.) [05:56] I have the ISO on my other computer, so I can always re-write it later if need be [05:57] Ironically, the whole point of all this python runaround is so that I can install the third-party ‘apt-offline’ tool and install packages freely thereafter [06:25] hey how to enable screen reader in firefox/chrome? [06:25] do i have to enable it for the entire os? === jje_ is now known as jje [07:30] do ubuntu repos provide flatpak? [07:32] <_KaszpiR_> no [07:32] <_KaszpiR_> you need to install it on your own [07:33] !info flatpak [07:33] flatpak (source: flatpak): Application deployment framework for desktop apps. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 762 kB, installed size 3697 kB [07:35] HEX0: ^^ [07:37] I'm not on ubuntu, but I figured it let you know considering your multilib future, that you can install steam and playonlinux via flatpak on pure 64 bit system and both of them work [07:49] How to fix "error attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'" error? I can't boot. [07:54] rebab: you asked that question yesterday, TJ- helped you and the situation was that your disk has died and you need full disk replacement. [07:54] so why are you here now asking the original question as if none of that happened [07:57] rebab: if you want a 2nd opinion, boot a live usb and le tme know when you're in the try ubuntu dekstop [08:00] EriC^^: I am already in the try ubuntu desktop. [08:12] EriC^^: Hello? [08:14] does ubuntu give birthday presents? [08:14] yes, twice a year. [08:15] I'm looking documentation about RES and ubuntu [08:15] blackflow: you sure those are presents? [08:17] https://askubuntu.com/questions/176001/what-do-virt-res-and-shr-mean-in-the-top-command [08:19] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/top.1.html [08:19] !ask | gofio: please stop with that. if you have a specific ubuntu related support question, then [08:19] gofio: please stop with that. if you have a specific ubuntu related support question, then: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [08:20] thanks for answering my question (must have been telepathy cuz I did not typed it) [08:21] I was wondering, how is this going down hill this fast :? [08:22] and there you go [08:23] and yeap will keep my log for myself, at #gofio, thanks [08:23] my birthday present [08:30] quite impressive watching gnome-shell on top of % memory and cpu usage in htop even with spotify and firefox running, both heavy users. Looks like a 2007 intel core duo is not best for it [08:30] gofio: this is not the rant channel, please only ubuntu support questions [08:31] be aware that such behavior also leads to people testing out the /ignore nick command which renders you completely invisible. [08:33] don't you worry lotuspsychje already given up on that. As matter of fact wished could have figured out already or have the time to how the ignore function works in smuxi, a double one it seems, or else I would not be writing this right now. For antisocial: press 2 [08:33] no need here. Comes as default [08:46] hey, what kind of username password safe are you using? i need one where the source file is located in google drive, and can be reached easy. thx [08:51] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/steam-announces-that-its-dropping-support-for-ubuntu ... [08:52] !discuss | Ultron [08:52] Ultron: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [09:20] Hey, I’m using apt-offline to install packages, but I see a very large and obvious pitfall coming my way. [09:21] The internet-connected machine I have is a Mac. So, BSD, basically. [09:21] "The first step in avoiding a trap, is knowing of its existence!" -- Thufir Hawat, mentat. [09:22] Is this going to be a problem? [09:22] Thanks, blackflow. [09:23] i wouldnt jump to conclusions [09:23] SoItBegins: dont you have a cable to run updates? [09:23] mental traps included? [09:23] shouldn't be. I used the off-line tools on a windows machine at my library and it worked great. [09:24] lotuspsychje: No. The machine is about 30 foot away from the router, I don’t have that much Ethernet cable and it’d be a trip hazard, and I have no USB wireless adapter to attach. [09:24] gofio: ##linux is open, dont you need to go tell your life there? [09:24] The machine also doesn’t have a bluetooth card, so internet sharing over bluetooth is out. [09:24] lotuspsychje: nag now got #bots to tell them [09:25] SoItBegins: what packages do you want to install? if they arent too many you can just download the deb files and their dependencies [09:25] and use dpkg -i /path/to/debfile to install [09:25] Well, to start with, apt-offline-gui XD [09:25] But after that, I figured I’d install the dolphin emulator: [09:26] whats the package name and whats your distro [09:26] https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Installing_Dolphin#Ubuntu [09:26] !Info dolphin-emu [09:26] “dolphin-emu”, has a specific repository. [09:26] ah [09:26] It emulates the Nintendo GameCube. [09:27] SoItBegins: i think if you make some internet connection possibly bia wifi that'd be pretty cool [09:27] EriC^^: I’d love to, but the machine doesn’t have a wifi card. [09:28] SoItBegins: or maybe you could buy one of those ethernet via electricity wire/power outlet, i want to get me one [09:28] Hahahahaha XD Good one. [09:28] no wires around the house etc and very fast [09:28] um its not a joke :D though it sounds like it i guess [09:28] I know PoE is real, but I’m not gonna remodel my house for this! [09:29] it doesnt take remodeling of house! [09:29] do you not have a power outlet near the router and power outlet near the offline pc already? :/ [09:30] EriC^^: you know any RES (RES stands for the resident size) on ubuntu documentation could point me to? wondering who's responsible for it as I've tested both in firefox and chromium and same thing happens in both. tia [09:31] EriC^^: Look, I’m not going to do ethernet over power. I don’t have the gear for it. I could also buy 30-60’ of ethernet cable and run it along the baseboards - I already did that for another comp in the house! But it’d be more trouble than I care to deal with. [09:31] no idea gofio [09:31] EriC^^: thanks [09:32] SoItBegins: ok fine, it was just a suggestion [09:32] [thumbs up] Thanks~ [09:35] SoItBegins: if you have another pc that has ubuntu you can connect online you can possibly use aptoncd to transfer stuff [09:35] EriC^^: I’m planning to use apt-offline to transfer stuff using my Mac [09:36] SoItBegins: does it work with mac? or you'd need a live usb i guess? [09:36] EriC^^: I don’t know. That’s what I asked a few minutes ago. I guess I’ll find out. [09:36] It’s written in python, at least, so there’s a good chance. [09:37] i think it does, the info page mentions it even works with windows [09:39] SoItBegins: i think you'd have to manually update the package list of the offline pc though [09:39] EriC^^: apt-offline does that, too. [09:39] i mean to do manually what apt-get update would do after you add the ppa [09:39] I actually have to run it twice, actually: [09:39] Once to update the system’s package lists (‘cause they’re empty right now, it’s a fresh Ubuntu install) [09:39] aha pretty cool [09:40] and once to actually get the whatever I want to install. [09:51] deltab, did you by any chance find out anything about where to report issues for adobe-flashplugin ? [09:51] apt-offline appears to work without install (I think) on macOS. [09:56] Hey, can a Ubuntu system hibernate like a windows PC? [09:58] SoItBegins: sure [09:58] SoItBegins: it just depends on the ACPI setup and user configuration, of course [09:58] Hooooo. I just got a screenload of what MAY have been ACPI errors. Gonna test this. [09:59] SoItBegins: generally a good rule of thumb is google the exact system type + ubuntu + hibernate [09:59] and if any tweaks are needed, you'll find them [10:00] Nnnnnope. I’m running on a Dell Optiplex and it looks like Hibernate doesn’t work in this circumstance. [10:01] I’ll just shut it down when I’m not using it. [10:02] (The machine blinks its power light when it’s asleep. It’s quite obnoxious.) [10:06] SoItBegins: tape over the light :) [10:07] miu5: whats happening? [10:09] lotuspsychje, all of a sudden i am getting error in firefox while activating flash on sites: "this plugin is vulnerable and should be updated" Packages on Ubuntu 18.04 are all up to date. When i check the plugin, the version of shockwave Flash is 32.0.0.192 and the newer version on Adobe is 32.0.0.207. Adobe Flash updated its latest version 11 days ago but not canonical's repo [10:10] !latest | miu5 [10:10] miu5: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [10:11] lotuspsychje, i know that. But there is something wrong with this. This has nothing to do with stability. as i am getting those errors on sites. [10:11] miu5: uname -a && lsb_release -a please? [10:12] miu5, i've got 32.0.0.207 over here on 16.04 [10:13] lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS [10:13] EriC^^: you know any alternative to this line "sudo sync && sudo sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3 [10:13] vm.drop_caches = 3" to try to reduce (whatever the term) ram memory used ? tia [10:13] miu5: kernel version? [10:13] miu5, apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer [10:13] Linux SNIPER 4.15.0-52-generic [10:13] !info linux-image-generic bionic [10:13] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.52.54 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB [10:14] kostkon, thats weird [10:14] adobe-flashplugin: [10:14] Installed: 1:20190514.1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 [10:14] miu5: mine is also 207 on 18.04 [10:14] !uptodate | miu5 doublecheck please? [10:14] miu5 doublecheck please?: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. [10:14] lotuspsychje, do you have some sort of ppa? because i have updated my packages [10:15] miu5: no ppa's here [10:15] lotuspsychje, i have done dist-upgrade and all. [10:15] lotuspsychje, wait. is this the package you checked adobe-flashplugin: ?? [10:15] miu5: read the command above? you didnt forget full-upgrade or so? [10:16] i tried full-upgrade.. theres nothing to upgrade [10:16] miu5: flashplugin-installer [10:17] no.. lotuspsychje apparently since the beginning.. adobe-flashplugin was supposed to be for 64bit Linux and flashplugin-installer for 32bit or was supposed to fall away. i have always had adobe-flashplugin [10:18] !info adobe-flashplugin bionic [10:18] Package adobe-flashplugin does not exist in bionic [10:18] its only now that im having this issue. has something changed. and what is the actual difference now. [10:19] because its part of canonical repo [10:20] miu5: just install flashplugin-installer, if you need flash [10:21] Then what happened to adobe-flashplugin ? [10:37] Hi guys, Are there some keyboard shortcuts hard-coded? I am trying to disable F1 (Ubuntu Desktop Guide) or Shift>e (don't see it anywhere) [10:38] I am on Ubuntu 19.04 [10:52] <_raven_> hi [10:54] <_raven_> ubunu 18.04 with gnome3 and 4.15.0-51-generic on an intel atom z36xxx platform and egalax tablet touchscreen: how to install drivers for backlight settings? xbacklight does not show anything, fn keys no effect, xorg intel settings tried without success so far === jstein_ is now known as jstein [12:23] I'm trying to install ubuntu on my HTPC. After the installation is done and I restart my HTPC, after post it just shows a black screen with blinking cursor [12:23] Any idea what can I do to fix it? [12:31] andes: try to edit the kernel line in grub removing quiet splash and put "debug ignore_loglevel" [12:36] Hey folks [12:39] EriC^^: I think this might have something to do with raid.. I have 2x 128gb SSDs in raid0 [12:39] trying to install ubuntu there [12:40] SSDs in RAID0. That's gonna end up well :) [12:40] tbh I've had them in raid0 since 2009 [12:40] i guess i should do some lottery [12:41] andes: sure, and store the only copy of the ticket on that raid, let murphy's law, irony and fate do the rest :) [12:43] blackflow: nah, just OS for my HTPC is there, nothing else [12:47] andes: hey, your data, your time ;) you seem to understand so you'll hear from me no more. [12:51] Mornin' Fellow Linux Users [12:51] andes: perhaps take the # off from the line WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm/custom.conf - aka disable wayland [12:54] whitehatjelly, hey guy [13:01] blackflow: ;) [13:01] nixonix: thanks ill try [13:49] Anyone have an example for referencing an svg icon in a .desktop file? Simple referencing seems not to work. [13:59] m15k: are you using an absolute path in the Icon= statement? [14:00] TJ-: Yes. [14:01] I wonder if it's supported to use just an svg file... [14:01] m15k: Yes [14:06] I normally comment out in /lib/udev/rules.d/97-hid2hci.rules a line that reads.... ATTR{idVendor}=="0a12|0458|05ac", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", RUN+="hid2hci --method=csr --devpath=%p" [14:06] Can I somehow override this with my own rule... which somehow states *not* to follow that rule - with a new file in /lib or /etc ? [14:07] as the original file is managed by ubuntu packaging === rartoo_ is now known as rartoo [14:10] Lantizia: see "man udev" and the RULES FILES paragraph on priority [14:11] right i know that those files override each other and in what order [14:11] but i just want that one rule [14:11] or rather... line [14:12] e.g. if match idVendor 05ac then don't run anything [14:12] despite the rule file still being there [14:12] but all the other lines in that rule still apply [14:14] usb problems? [14:14] no just whoever wrote the udev rules in debian/ubuntu is very presumptuous :) [14:15] this device can operate in two modes and I don't it to flip mode [14:16] what was the presumption? [14:16] it'll sound silly :) [14:17] awww i'm recently working with udev rules so my interest is piqued [14:18] well a DBT-120 is a very old D-Link bluetooth dongle. It's mainly sought after now as it act as a HIDProxy [14:18] in other words a machine things it's a mouse/keyboard and not a bluetooth device - but you can swap it into being a bluetooth device, re-arrange what is paired - and swap back if you like [14:18] it has a memory [14:19] but since it's bluetooth 1.1 - it's not like i'm interested in it showing up as a bluetooth device at all - i have way better bluetooth on the machine [14:20] that line above swaps it into being a bluetooth device - something you can run manually if you really want it [14:24] what line? [14:24] i think i walked in late [14:25] I normally comment out in /lib/udev/rules.d/97-hid2hci.rules a line that reads.... ATTR{idVendor}=="0a12|0458|05ac", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", RUN+="hid2hci --method=csr --devpath=%p" === fling_ is now known as fling [14:30] I kind of want a .... ATTR{idVendor}=="0a12", ATTR{idProduct}=="1000", DO NOTHING [14:30] and for that line to be a higher priority to adhere to more than that single line in that larger rule [14:32] Lantizia: you cannot override single matches within a rules file, so you'd need to make your own copy with amendments placed in /etc/udev/rules.d/ [14:32] TJ-, that's what I'd feared was the situation [14:32] that's pretty crummy [14:34] Lantizia: there used to be a LAST_ACTION but that was dropped many years ago because it caused more problems and confusion than not having it [14:35] TJ-, do you know if udev finds a match ... if it keeps on reading? e.g. if that file is 97- and i made a 99- which matches it and did something stupid like ran nologin or something that did nothing - would it continue on to 97- ? [14:35] oh i think you just answered me :D [14:36] Lantizia: as far as a I recall (I used to be heavily into udev) all rules that match will be processed across all files. The only way to deal with it inside a single rules file is with labels and GOTO to step over the unwanted rule [14:36] i've installed ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS and install open ssh 7.6p1 but when i try to ssh from my client it stuck in debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_ECDH_REPLY and no connected. i search a lot and change mtu but no success [14:36] which means overriding the whole rule file anyway [14:37] any solution ? [14:37] i just can connect with vnc to server not ssh [14:37]