[00:14] <Wild_Man> Hi Bashing-om is this the same as the other security issue found by Netflix? https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-outs-important-linux-kernel-security-update-for-all-ubuntu-releases-526440.shtml ?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: looking.
[00:15] <Wild_Man> I have to take my wife to the Doctor tomorrow afternoon so I may be late arriving to publish
[00:15] <Wild_Man> Just asking, not wanting you to change anything
[00:17] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Same same :) For tomorrow - I do not know that there is set deadline to do the media publishing :P
[00:18] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, just letting you know so you do not panic if no one is here early
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Ho-kay :) Will not sweat it :P
[00:19] <Wild_Man> Okay, I just like keeping people informed
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I take it that you have looked over UWN584 and all looks good ?
[00:20] <Wild_Man> Yes, it looks good
[00:20] <Wild_Man> Great Job!:)
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: One down 2 to go for acceptance :)
[01:18] <guiverc2> i'm just reading 584 on wiki,  we possibly should have posted https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-June/000245.html to fridge?  probably too late now..
[01:20] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, have a look please, seems to be contradicting info https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/is-ubuntu-not-dropping-32-bit-app-support-after-all
[01:20] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: looking.
[01:21] <Wild_Man> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/i386-architecture-will-be-dropped-starting-with-eoan-ubuntu-19-10/11263/84?u=d0od
[01:22] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: "Updated 9 hours ago" ^^ for consideration to next week's edition. For now I suggest we go with what is.
[01:23] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I understand that it is a time issue but we have people of the forum and other places already jumping ship, I think it would be bad press to report what we know is not the true intentions of Canonical and to cause more users to stop using Ubuntu
[01:24] <Wild_Man> stop/start
[01:24] <Wild_Man> May just had the correction below the one there already?
[01:24] <Wild_Man> had/add
[01:28] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Well .. Yeah - we can do that .. and agree here that publishing the amendment is a good thing. And too will be good to make it early :)
[01:32] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I know we like to keep the news in the week that it belongs but I think doing that over mitigating the the damage that can be done by not correcting the report is far worse, we have a duty to report the facts as we know them
[01:33] <Wild_Man> This is just a fluke that does not happen often
[01:33] <Wild_Man> Steam had already decided to drop support for Ubuntu, so it was snowing balling quickly
[01:39] <guiverc2> I finished read-thru #584, looks great.
[01:45] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: guiverc2 :: Joey Sneddon on a clarification of intent by Canonical’s Steve Langasek. Steve relates that rather than dropping 32 bit support in the 19.10 release, 32 bit libraries are to be frozen at the 18.04 LTS versions. Meaning that 32 bit libraries will continue to work on Ubuntu 19.10. Further information of how i386 applications "can be run on versions of Ubuntu later than
[01:45] <Bashing-om> 19.10” is pending.
[01:47] <guiverc2> i haven't read that latest; but looking back I'd agree with Wild_Man in that being accurate (to fact) outweighs being week perfect (as to time.. this time now; pre-actual-release allows us to correct/update minor things before final publish..)
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: guiverc2 :: Doing so ... Any comments on what I propose to add ^^ ?
[01:49] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, looks good
[01:50] <guiverc2> I'd add (still reading it though)
[01:51] <guiverc2> do you want me to write summary (in gdoc or wherever?)
[01:53] <Wild_Man> guiverc2, Bashing-om is adding it to the wiki so I see no reason to add it to gdoc unless you just want to
[01:54] <guiverc2> no need at all; it was I thought an easier place to write a summary if wanted..
[01:54] <guiverc2> (thinking of the wiki timer; and remembering prior summaries I've tried to write in under wiki.timer..)
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: guiverc2 See UWN584 now. Have added the clarification ( editied); see if yall like it.
[02:04] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, looking
[02:04] <guiverc2> Excellent !   .. (though not a fan of having Rumour in the heading, but it's in the heading and consistent with uwn practices)
[02:06] <Bashing-om> guiverc2: Not to shabby for something done in haste :P - If I do say so myself. Wild_Man ?
[02:07] <guiverc2> :)
[02:07] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, it does look good, I am think you may want to include the two links that I have here as well https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2395520&page=3
[02:08] <Wild_Man> Sorry for the extra work this late in the game
[02:08] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Hey - not done until it is done !
[02:09] <Wild_Man> Very unusual situation
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: "https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/i386-architecture-will-be-dropped-starting-with-eoan-ubuntu-19-10/11263/82" is  not the article reference "A link to the Discourse " good enough ?
[02:15] <Wild_Man> That link says page not found
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Which link ? All I have tried here do complete.
[02:20] <Wild_Man> This link lets people stay up to date and participate in the discussion https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-June/000245.html and this one is the direct conversation form the person that was was misinterpreted https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/i386-architecture-will-be-dropped-starting-with-eoan-ubuntu-19-10/11263/84?u=d0od he goes by vorlon
[02:21] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ^^^
[02:22] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Considering :)
[02:22] <Wild_Man> For whatever reason I am not able to get that link to work correctly, but I will leave it up to you, I think at least the link that lets people participate in the discussion
[02:23] <Wild_Man> should be included, it makes people feel good
[02:23] <Wild_Man> to have a voice
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: "with eoan (Ubuntu 19.10)" is our lead article. Looking next at the announcemnt.
[02:25] <Wild_Man> Okay Bashing-om
[02:30] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I do recoomend we leave the Article as is. We wnat to pronmpt the reader to open a article and read it, thus I feel "A link to the Discourse..." will serve better that purpose.
[02:30] <Bashing-om> we want to prompt*
[02:31] <Wild_Man> Ok Bashing-om it works for me
[02:32] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :D .. not set in concrete until I push that Big Red Button at 20:00 hours GMT tomnorrow.
[02:33] <Wild_Man> :)
[02:35] <Bashing-om> (and even then it has been known to have to go back and fix an Ooopps )
[02:35] <Bashing-om> If we are all set now - I am logging out of UWN.
[02:49] <Wild_Man> good night Bashing-om
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: NN :)
[03:43] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Valve Says Steam for Linux Won't Support Ubuntu 19.10 and Future Releases @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/valve-says-steam-for-linux-won-t-support-ubuntu-19-10-and-future-releases-526495.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
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[14:39] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: The Raspberry Pi 4 is Here — And It Sounds Like a BEAST! @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=145358 (by Joey Sneddon)
[15:05] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Canonical Assures Users 32-bit Apps Will Run on Ubuntu 19.10 and Future Releases @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-assures-users-32-bit-apps-will-run-on-ubuntu-19-10-and-future-releases-526508.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[16:33] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Weekly News #136 @ https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-136/
[17:33] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Canonical Design Team: Statement on 32-bit i386 packages for Ubuntu 19.10 and 20.04 LTS @ https://insights.ubuntu.com/2019/06/24/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts/
[18:07] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu Reverses Decision, Says It Will Continue To Support 32-bit Apps @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=145443 (by Joey Sneddon)
[19:24] <Bashing-om> Pulling "WIP" target time to pish 20:00 GMT.
[20:03] <Bashing-om> M/L is away - doing the forum post next.
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Forum post -finally- done .. doing the re-directs next.
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Hey ! https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts .. Gonna again do a quick edit!
[20:48] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Canonical Releases Linux Kernel Security Patch for 64-Bit PowerPC Ubuntu Systems @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-releases-linux-kernel-security-patch-for-64-bit-powerpc-ubuntu-systems-526512.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[20:57] <Bashing-om> edited the WIKI and the forum post . See if what I have done is acceptable.
[21:05] <Bashing-om> Re-directs done. See the edits I made to the WIKI before we do more .
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Editing the WIKI again: http://ubuntustudio.org/2019/06/regarding-ubuntus-statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages/ .
[22:01] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Riccardo Padovani: Using AWS Textract in an automatic fashion with AWS Lambda @ https://rpadovani.com/aws-textract
[22:01] <Bashing-om> And edit yet again: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Partial-32-Bit-19.10
[22:17] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om, whilst I'd rather return to bed (only ~5oC outside even with sun)  shall I publish #584 to fridge
[22:22] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I know of no reason presently not to go ahead with publishing. Do you agree with how I handled the addtional developments on the 32 bit scene ?
[22:24] <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/06/24/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-584/   and I included the word Issue in title :)
[22:25] <guiverc> no issues at all Bashing-om  - because it's so sensitive in Ubuntu-world (i686/386/x86) I feel perfectly appropriate!
[22:26] <guiverc> (note: I haven't read all the latest posts yet)
[22:27] <Bashing-om> guiverc: guiverc I did not summerize any of the latest .. All I did was bullet them uner the "Rumour: Ubuntu NOT Dropping 32-bit App Support After All?" heading.
[22:27] <Bashing-om> under*
[22:28] <guiverc> I saw that, but have NO issues with it at all.  Given the time line of them posting (out-of-week) I have no issues with that at all.
[22:29] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :) .. and considering there are other things in life beside UWN :P - We did well :)
[22:30] <guiverc> You do outstanding Bashing-om , I'm not doing much... (will start social media now though .. posted my mewe stuff)
[22:30] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :D
[22:31] <guiverc> tweeted
[22:32] <Bashing-om> Fridge checks - checks good :)
[22:38] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I just go in, still need to fix dinner, is all publishing done already?
[22:39] <guiverc> :)    though my getting the word "Issue" in heading pleases me..  it doesn't look as good when it's shorter (I don't like editing later as people like me that click links from liferea will get 404s etc)
[22:39] <guiverc> yeah Wild_Man, logged into fb now
[22:39] <guiverc> (not yet posted.. working my way around the..)
[22:39] <Wild_Man> okay guiverc, Thanks
[22:40] <Wild_Man> I am going to fix dinner real quick and if any publishing needs done when I am through I will get on it
[22:40] <guiverc> fb done now also.
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: See the edits made IRT 32 bit - 2 more links added .
[22:41] <Wild_Man> Looking
[22:43] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 584 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/06/24/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-584/
[22:44] <Wild_Man> Looks good Bashing-om great work everyone
[22:45] <Wild_Man> biab
[22:46] <Bashing-om> Clear now to wipe Gdoc ?
[22:48] <guiverc> can't see why not... we'll get new stuff soon; I'd possibly not delete the latest i386/686 stuff as we may need/want in 585 (esp. items that occur in 585 maybe; but color/mark so clear they've already been in & thus can be deleted during week..)  my 2c
[22:48] <guiverc> occur in #585's week maybe
[22:50] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Good thoght :) cleaning out Gdoc :)
[22:53] <pleia2> nice work guys, quite the job with all the i386 news bouncing around
[22:54] <guiverc> :)
[23:17] <Bashing-om> pleia2: We arise to the ocassion :)
[23:17] <Bashing-om> We now do UWN585 :D
[23:47] <Wild_Man> The late breaking conflicting information keep everyone on there toes last night