[02:41] <amosbird> hi, is there a way to mount as a non-root user?
[02:43] <rwp> Putting the "user" flag in /etc/fstab? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/mount.8.html
[02:44] <amosbird> hmm, can I mount it manually?
[02:45] <rwp> See the example with the "user" flag.  Then you can mount it as a non-root user.
[02:45] <rwp> Look for /The non-superuser mounts/ in the man page.
[02:47] <amosbird> cool!
[02:47] <rwp> Also remember that 'sudo' is very useful for those types of tasks too.
[02:52] <mTeK> I have a port flap that is happening on on leg of my Mlag when I try to copy data from one network to the other. There is a jumbo frame mismatch between them. I know mixing frame size is a bad thing and will be fixed on Tueday. The wierd thing is that 4 nodes that are my proxmox hosts are connected to the same network, the only difference is that these hosts have OVS bonds and bridge and my other hosts have only linux bond and linux bridge. The OVS servers
[02:52] <mTeK> are not dropping their ports but the kernal linux will start to flap and will contiunue to do so till the machine is rebooted.
[02:52] <mTeK> Has anyone see this before?
[02:56] <skyark> does anyone knows if the 18.04 can work in an atom 1.8Ghz?
[02:59] <mTeK> Yes it should work fine
[03:00] <mTeK> Will need light DE
[03:30] <Mr_Cyclops> !snap
[03:30] <Mr_Cyclops> !flatpak
[03:30] <Mr_Cyclops> !flatpaks
[03:30] <Mr_Cyclops> !docker
[03:31] <Mr_Cyclops> !dockers
[03:31] <OerHeks> pm ubottu and play with it, thanks
[03:31] <Mr_Cyclops> OerHeks, that's exactly what I am doing :P
[03:32] <OerHeks> no, results are public visable
[03:32] <Mr_Cyclops> even if I directly talk to ubottu?"
[03:33] <OerHeks> nope, no such function enabled, due to educational reason. one can open a private window with ubottu, and go wild
[03:33] <Mr_Cyclops> :) I think nothing can get better than >>
 Sorry, I don't know anything about myself
[03:34] <Mr_Cyclops> anyways, wont spam this channel ... tx OerHeks
[03:34] <OerHeks> have fun!
[03:34] <Mr_Cyclops> cheers
[03:53] <iteratee> I'm encountering what I think is a bad interaction between EFI-secureboot induced lockdown and imsm mdadm fakeraid
[03:54] <iteratee> I wanted to ask around in here if this was a known issue, and any extra steps I should take before filing a bug.
[03:55] <iteratee> I'm on 18.10, and am currently updating to 19.04 I will check to see if the issue remains.
[03:59] <iteratee> mdadm --assemble --scan fails to read the imsm metadata.
[03:59] <iteratee> If I do an strace, it attempts to read from /dev/mem and is denied.
[04:00] <iteratee> There is a message in the dmesg logs about mdadm and kernel_lockdown.7
[04:00] <iteratee> but no such manpage exists.
[04:00] <iteratee> I've googled a lot. I attempted to disable lockdown via SysRq+X
[04:00] <iteratee> That fails.
[04:43] <chieta> how to know that the laptop is supported by ubuntu?
[04:44] <Sveta> test a live usb
[04:44] <Sveta> or look it up online, 'laptop model ubuntu', the ubuntu wiki may have a report
[05:31] <LearnAllTheTime> Anyone how to enable FAT format in the Disks program? It's not showing up even with dosfstools installed
[05:34] <The_Ball> Where can I find git repos for how packages are built? Debian uses salsa.debian.org, is there an equivalent for Ubuntu?
[05:37] <Rembo> does intel-microcode patch require reboot on Ubuntu server 16.04 ?
[05:50] <SoItBegins> I’m using apt-offline and I thiiiiiiink I might have screwed up the permissions of the Ubuntu package database. Are the files in /var/lib/apt/lists supposed to be only readable by root?
[05:53] <Bashing-om> SoItBegins: Affirmed, All are "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root " .
[05:53] <SoItBegins> OK, yeah, apt-offline screwed something up then.
[05:53] <SoItBegins> Because some are -rw——— 1 root root now
[05:53] <SoItBegins> brb
[06:11] <freeitt> anyone got suggestions on getting audio jack working on 18.04? Fresh install and can't seem to get any of the google searches to work
[06:14] <sazawal> Hi all. I am using Ubuntu 19.04. Since the new install, the nautilus keeps crashing until about 20-30 minutes of start up. I get a notification "Failed to launch Downloads, timeout was reached". But once it launches that is after 30 mins of start up, it works fine.
[06:14] <sazawal> For a test, I installed Thunar and it works perfect.
[06:54] <flowtron> could somebody please help me out with comparing a couple of md5 checksums of some system files?!? 16.04 xenial x86_64
[06:55] <freeitt> I'm having trouble getting audio out of my headphones and everything I've found on google isn't working.
[06:55] <blackflow> flowtron: what with specifically?
[06:56] <flowtron> blackflow: like /sbin/sysctl /bin/cat /bin/chmod and /bin/grep .. I could go on, but comparing those would help me relax or deepen my panic! ;-)
[06:57] <cfhowlett> flowtron, if  the .iso checks out there is no need to checksum the components
[06:57] <Bashing-om> flowtron: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package_name>.md5sums : list of MD5 hash values for files installed by the package.
[06:57] <blackflow> flowtron: ah you want to compare it with an existing xenial installation... yeah sorry, can't help you wiht that. however, did you try debsums?
[06:58] <flowtron> cfhowlett: not a fresh install .. and I already ran debsums Bashing-om .. thank you .. but if the system is compromised I can't trust /anything/
[06:58] <blackflow> flowtron: not even the md5sum tho
[06:58] <flowtron> I mounted the filesystem and ran md5sum from my client
[06:58] <blackflow> so I guess you'll be checking from a rescue env or another boot of some kind?
[06:59] <flowtron> remote server, I already did a rollback .. took hours, but rkhunter came up with the same warnings, can't find any listing of what the checksums should be and have no identical setup to compare with for myself
[07:18] <SuperLag> OerHeks: are you around, sir?
[07:36] <CrazyBi7> Hello, can someone give me the download link of Lubuntu 12.04 LTS? It is a Old relase, so i don't find it on the site
[07:36] <flowtron> CrazyBi7: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[07:37] <flowtron> if you open up "Downloads" there's a link "older releases" in the footer of the menu ;-)
[07:40] <darshan> Hi, I am getting error while booting to ubuntu - "TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to errata: please update a microcode to version 0x20 (or later)"
[07:43] <darshan> HI
[07:43] <flowtron> CrazyBi7: mmh. Lubuntu official site has removed the files :-/ .. here's some russians offering files .. http://linux.psu.ru/lubuntu-releases/12.04/release/
[07:44] <paul1us> hello, I am double booting ubuntu and windows. suddenly, I cannot load ubuntu. I can see the grub menu, and windows is loading, but not ubuntu. When I select ubuntu the screen continues to be purple-ish but all the text disappears. Maybe anybody has some tips?
[07:45] <EriC^^> paul1us: try editing the kernel line in grub and replacing 'quiet splash' with 'debug ignore_loglevel'
[07:46] <EriC^^> (press e in grub over the entry to edit it, then F10 to boot the new entry)
[07:48] <paul1us> EriC^^, thank you. I do not find quiet splash there.
[07:49] <paul1us> correction, I did find it.
[07:50] <paul1us> I replaced it and it loaded into the purple screen again and nothing seems to happen further. Should I restart the computer?
[07:51] <EriC^^> paul1us: did you press F10 to boot it?
[07:51] <paul1us> i did press ctrl+x as an alternative.
[07:52] <EriC^^> aha
[07:52] <paul1us> so restart and redoit with F10 ? :D
[07:52] <EriC^^> try booting an older kernel and see what happens
[07:52] <EriC^^> nah
[07:52] <paul1us> EriC^^, ok, how do I do that?
[07:52] <EriC^^> go to advanced > choose one
[07:53] <paul1us> so for now, I should still restart the computer?
[07:53] <EriC^^> yeah, try ctrl+alt+del or the sysrq trick
[07:53] <paul1us> as the purple screen I am seeing doesn't have any text/options
[07:54] <paul1us> ctrl+alt+del did not do anything. Ok, so I restarted. pressed on advanced. and how should I choose the recovery mode or not?
[07:56] <EriC^^> paul1us: no, choose Ubuntu with kernel blablabla pick any one
[07:57] <paul1us> EriC^^, it loaded, thank you. What's next? Do I have to keep doing this every time now? or.... ?
[07:58] <EriC^^> paul1us: set it as the default loading kernel for now til maybe a newer kernel has a fix for your issue, use /etc/default/grub 's GRUB_DEFAULT to set it
[07:58] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[08:02] <Exagone313> Hi, when I go to a tty it somehow locks up my graphical session (ubuntu gnome x11 on 18.04), and when I go back to x11 tty and logs in, it somehow closes my session (sometimes it works).  How do I disable that weird auto lock?  Thanks for your help.
[08:04] <ixio2> hi all, has anyone ever encountered this thing where you move your mouse to your second monitor and then the desktop on the second monitor starts scrolling into your first monitor relative to how far you move your mouse into your second monitor ?
[08:05] <ixio2> its kinda like having two desktops, on one monitor.. but with a second monitor only showing you whats happening on the second desktop and the first monitor scrolling around the desktops
[08:22] <paul1us> EriC^^, I got myself into a pickle. I loaded Ubuntu with an older kernel as adviced, and changed the GRUB_DEFAULT and ran sudo update-grub. Then I restarted the pc. Default suggested option now became the one I had loaded previously. However when I tried to load it, It said Loadinx Linux <kernelnumber> ... /n Loading initial ramdisk ... and it gets stuck here.
[08:25] <paul1us> then I restarted the computer tried to load this version again and it would get me to the same place - stuck. Then I loaded another kernel version. It loaded well. then I tried to edit the /etc/defaul/grub again and eventually it got me stuck again. Any help would be appreciated :)
[08:26] <EriC^^> paul1us: hmm
[08:26] <EriC^^> no idea tbh
[08:29] <Exagone313> I think I'll move to another DE/WM and I won't have the issue anymore
[08:30] <cfhowlett> good test Exagone313!
[08:31] <paul1us> EriC^^, I created a backup of the etc/default/grub  Is there any way to access it?
[08:32] <cfhowlett> you could sudo mv it to the existing grub target to achieve an overwrite
[08:32] <EriC^^> paul1us: advanced > one of the recovery options
[08:33] <Exagone313> cfhowlett: well I'm used to i3 but I'm at new work and I wanted to keep things simple
[08:33] <paul1us> EriC^^, I tried to use recovery options but they run into the same problem
[08:33] <EriC^^> paul1us: so right now the booting is intermittent or ..?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, completely understandable.  fortunately linux/ubuntu = choice!
[08:33] <Exagone313> but I alerady lost my session once and it has happened again few minutes ago but I didn't open anything important yet
[08:33] <EriC^^> paul1us: if you go to advanced again and manually choose an older kernel it doesnt boot?
[08:34] <paul1us> EriC^^,  now ubuntu is not booting at all. I can only get into grub and to "start" loading smth but it stops on the "Loading initial ramdisk " line
[08:34] <paul1us> EriC^^,  nope, it doesn't
[08:35] <paul1us> I have 4 options in the Advanced menu, and neither of them is loading
[08:35] <paul1us> would the live CD help?
[08:36] <paul1us> cfhowlett, from where would I be able to do this move?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> paul1us, I think the command protocol would be sudo mv oldgrub targetgrub
[08:37] <cfhowlett> assuming you backed up the entire grub file
[08:39] <paul1us> cfhowlett, yes. I did make a copy  with sudo cp /etc/default/grub /etc/default/grub.bak
[08:39] <cfhowlett> there it is!  reverse that command and you should be back to your first problem state
[08:39] <paul1us> I am very much a noob here, so if you could guide me through it it would be muuuch appreciated.
[08:40] <paul1us> cfhowlett, cool, but how do I access the terminal?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> paul1us, we are ALL noobs :)
[08:40] <cfhowlett> ah, yes.
[08:40] <paul1us> catch-22
[08:40] <cfhowlett> so either boot into recovery mode
[08:41] <cfhowlett> or boot an ubuntu USB/CD to get a live session, chroot to your installed OS and then operate from there.
[08:41] <paul1us> I believe, that recovery mode doesn't boot :D
[08:41] <cfhowlett> please verify
[08:41] <paul1us> that was a nice way of saying "I tried it before and neither for 2 recovery options work"
[08:42] <cfhowlett> OK then: boot from the USB
[08:42] <paul1us> cool, live CD it is. I will need the guidance with that too
[08:42] <cfhowlett> or live cd, yes
[08:42] <cfhowlett> cool.  boot up and come back to IRC
[08:43] <paul1us> I inserted the liveUSB, but just in case, tried a recovery option again and it worked. So  I am in the recovery menu. what's next ?
[08:44] <paul1us> do I select root ?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> yep
[08:49] <paul1us> ok, I'm in. I tried typing sudo mv etc/defaul/grub.bak /etc/default/grub. nothing seemingly happened.
[08:50] <cfhowlett> wait 1
[08:50] <ixio2> Hi all, how are we supposed to install Java on 19.04 desktop? there are so many google results each telling a different story, is there a "Proper" way using the software install GUI tool thing
[08:51] <paul1us> then I tried to navigate to /etc/default/grub and it said it's not a directory. I did cd .. and then ll I saw etc/ folder. I cd into it, saw default folder, cd into it. then I saw grub there tried to cd into it, but it said it's not a dirctory
[08:51] <paul1us> however, I did not see grub.bak
[08:53] <cfhowlett> sudo update grub to write the changes over to /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:55] <cfhowlett> no .bak because you are writing the backup to the original location and renaming, i.e. sudo mv grub.bak /etc/default/grub
[09:02] <EriC^^> paul1us: did you boot a live usb?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> as I understand it, his recovery mode unexpectedly worked
[09:03] <EriC^^> ah
[09:03] <paul1us> EriC^^, yes, the recovery unexpectedly worked.
[09:03] <paul1us> I am currently trying to make it work
[09:03] <EriC^^> paul1us: can you go to recovery > start networking
[09:03] <EriC^^> then drop to root shell and type "cat /etc/default/grub /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[09:03] <paul1us> but we need to present our project in a sec, so I will come back soon-ish
[09:04] <cfhowlett> no pressure I'm sure
[09:06] <paul1us> cfhowlett, hopefully the work is on different laptops, it's just that it would be annoying to reinstall ubuntu
[09:06] <cfhowlett> true
[09:07] <paul1us> so...... again. I am curently in the terminal, because I selected root option from the recovery. What do I do now?
[09:08] <EriC^^> well that sucks
[09:08] <paul1us> EriC^^, I can exit and try to ender into the option with networking
[09:09] <EriC^^> k
[09:09] <paul1us> silly question, how do I exit this terminal thing? just hard restarting the computer?
[09:09] <tachikomas> paul1us: what terminal thing ?
[09:10] <paul1us> tachikomas, I am in the recovery menu and selected root option.
[09:10] <tachikomas> just reboot then
[09:10] <paul1us> tachikomas, thank you :)
[09:13] <paul1us> ok, so now again the recovery options are not working. then I will boot from liveUSB
[09:14] <tachikomas> paul1us: can you tell me what happend ?
[09:14] <paul1us> tachikomas, you mean from the beginnning?
[09:14] <tachikomas> Yes please
[09:21] <paul1us> a friend apporached me with a problem, she's been double booting windows and ubuntu. For some reason her ubuntu is not booting anymore, but she can see the Grub screen. I went into advanced options, loaded with an older kernel, created a backup of grub, edited grub, saved it, updated it. then restarted the machine. the same kernel did not work. I tried to do it with another one. same story. now I have two kernels that are not loadi
[09:21] <paul1us> ng. they get stuck on "Loading initail ramdisk". Then I tried to load recovery options, they were not working. then I inserted LiveUSB and one of the recovery options started to work. I chose the root option and tried overwrite the current version with the backup. I do not know if it worked. then someone said that we should choose the recovery option with networking, then I wanted to exit the terminal but couldn't and then you sugg
[09:21] <paul1us> ested restarting and booting the liveUSB. I am now staring into the Grub of LiveUSB. Should I choose Try Ubuntu without installing?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> yes
[09:24] <cfhowlett> https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd            << paul1us
[09:36] <EriC^^> paul1us:
[09:36] <EriC^^> did you boot a live usb?
[09:36] <tachikomas> paul1us: try to recreate the initramfs
[09:42] <paul1us> EriC^^,  yup, I just had a presentation so was afk.
[09:44] <EriC^^> ok, type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link here
[09:50] <paul1us> EriC^^,  http://termbin.com/8c9w
[09:54] <EriC^^> paul1us: type 'sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p5 /mnt'
[09:55] <paul1us> done
[09:57] <paul1us> EriC^^, what's next?
[09:58] <paul1us> here's the updated pastebin,  http://termbin.com/llzx
[10:00] <paul1us> there seems to be no change
[10:00] <EriC^^> paul1us: ok, type 'cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg /mnt/etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999'
[10:02] <paul1us> http://termbin.com/g0q4
[10:03] <paul1us> I'm sorry I need to leave for a few hours. I will be back in a bit.
[10:04] <EriC^^> paul1us: /etc/default/grub doesn't look changed
[10:04] <EriC^^> well good luck then
[10:04] <paul1us> If you write the instructions, I will execute them as soon as I have time.
[10:04] <paul1us> thank you :)
[10:04] <EriC^^> instructions for what
[10:07] <EriC^^> paul1us: i have no idea why its not booting anymore, this might be some hardware issue since its intermittent, you'd need to troubleshoot stuff, check logs etc
[10:07] <b1ack0p> hi.
[10:07] <bryanroderyck> hello ubuntu what is the command to know the architecture of my laptop 64 bit or 32 bit?
[10:07] <EriC^^> anyways i wanted to see if /etc/default/grub had any wrong changes to revert them, but it looks unchanged anyways
[10:07] <b1ack0p> i made a softlink but it has lock symbol on it. i can not edit files in the softlink
[10:08] <EriC^^> bryanroderyck: sudo dmidecode | grep bit
[10:08] <b1ack0p> when i check properties of the softlink shortcut, owner appears root
[10:08] <b1ack0p> that s why i cant edit files
[10:09] <b1ack0p> i used command ln -s  ...
[10:10] <bryanroderyck> thanks EriC^^
[10:16] <tomreyn> Bryanstein: echo -n 'This system is '; grep -q ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo || echo -n 'NOT '; echo 'amd64 capable.'
[10:16] <tomreyn> this returns whether your CPU is amd64 capable.
[10:17] <b1ack0p> how can i change ownership of the soft link?
[10:18] <jeremy31> b1ack0p: Where is the original file?
[10:18] <b1ack0p> in windows partition
[10:18] <tzafrir> Hi, where can I find the Ubuntu equivalent of https://archive.debian.org/ ? All I can find is https://old-releases.ubuntu.com with ISOs, but not with package sources.
[10:18] <b1ack0p> media xxxxx
[10:19] <tzafrir> (And yes, I know this is unsupported, insecure etc.)
[10:20] <geirha> !eol | tzafrir
[10:20] <tomreyn> tzafrir: what exactly do you mean by "package sources"?
[10:21] <tzafrir> apt repositories
[10:21] <tomreyn> they're there
[10:21] <tzafrir> Where?
[10:21] <tomreyn> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:22] <tzafrir> tomreyn: OK. So I managed to miss that. Thanks
[10:22] <tomreyn> yw
[10:41] <schne1der> Hi. My bluetooth headset was working normally and just recently I see it is connected but does not list under devices for sound output
[10:41] <schne1der> I tried to remove it from bluetooth list and add it again but without any effect
[10:41] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: are you using the gnome bluetooth or blueman?
[10:42] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: blueman-manager
[10:42] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: anything showing up in your logs? feel free to share a pastebin if you like, volunteers will take a look for you
[10:44] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: where I can find those logs?
[10:44] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: dmesg, syslog or journal logs
[10:44] <lotus|H3X> !dmesg | schne1der
[10:46] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: thanks
[10:46] <schne1der> there are like ~3k lines showing with dmesg
[10:47] <schne1der> should I paste all of them or just search for some pattern?
[10:47] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: feel free to pastebin the whole output
[10:47] <schne1der> oh ok
[10:49] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: https://pastebin.com/FLiDb22n
[10:51] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: pastebin might not like its size, cant reach it here, maybe paste.ubuntu.com?
[10:52] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: or a smaller output indeed
[10:53] <Assid> heya
[10:53] <lotus|H3X> welcome to ubuntu support Assid
[10:54] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3Z8nGgY8Js/
[10:54] <Assid> so i have ubuntu running ina  vm .. with a 30GB disk with LVM..  however  the partition shows up as 4GB
[10:54] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: did you recently play with uefi settings?
[10:55] <Assid> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XxzvxT5bzp/
[10:55] <tomreyn> Assid: use lvs, lvresize
[10:55] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: Bluetooth: hci0: Secure boot is enabled
[10:55] <Assid> but why would it come up as 4gb when i set it to 30 ???
[10:55] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: no, last time I played with BIOS was a few months ago but my headseat worked recently
[10:56] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: Secure boot is enabled since I have this laptop, I enabled it before installin all OSes
[10:56] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: wich kernel are you on please?
[10:56] <tomreyn> Assid: because ubuntu only grabs as much as it needs to install, so you can create more logical volumes or resize the existing as you wish
[10:56] <schne1der> and my headseat worked well after that
[10:57] <schne1der> Linux thinkpad 4.15.0-50-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 6 18:46:08 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:57] <lotus|H3X> !uptodate | schne1der first
[10:57] <tomreyn> Assid: i.e. so you get more flexibility.
[10:58] <Assid> tomreyn:  care to show me once how do i do this
 Assid: use lvs, lvresize
[10:59] <tomreyn> Assid: there's #ubuntu-server for ubuntu server installations by the way
[10:59] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: after that I need to restart my computer?
[11:00] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: yes, new kernels came out since
[11:00] <lotus|H3X> hey MonkeyDust ; )
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> lotus|H3X: hi
[11:02] <Assid> lvresize -l +100%FREE  /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv   ?
[11:03] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: thanks, after restarting it worked
[11:03] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: welcome, try to keep your system up to date as much possible ok
[11:04] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: feel free to paste your new dmesg, as ive seen other weird errors there
[11:04] <tomreyn> Assid: if you want to allocate the full storage to this very LV, yes, but also add --resizefs
[11:04] <schne1der> well I do so, I'm using PopOS and they notify me every time on new updates
[11:04] <schne1der> and I update always before restarting my laptop
[11:04] <schne1der> but I can keep it up to 30 days without any reboot :))
[11:05] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: you should have mentioned this on your original question, we dont support derivatives
[11:05] <schne1der> lotus|H3X: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P2SZ2J3jFz/
[11:06] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: here's the PopOs! support: https://system76.com/pop/community
[11:06] <schne1der> well it's ubuntu based, is that a big deal?
[11:07] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: freenode has seperate support channels for a reason, i hope you understand we cant support all ubuntu based derivatives
[11:08] <tomreyn> we'll be happy to support you when you'll run ubuntu
[11:08] <schne1der> :D sure, thanks anyway
[11:08] <lotus|H3X> schne1der: ubuntu-desktop and their !flavours
[11:08] <TJ-> schne1der: Ubuntu is Debian-based, but they're very different in many ways :)
[12:23] <yakiza> Hello people i am trying to install mysql and log in as athe root user on an ubuntu machine i was able to install mysql and set up my root user password but  now my password smeems not to work
[12:23] <yakiza> any ideas?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:25] <gofio> I've got lots of ideas
[12:26] <yakiza> gofio:  i meant as per my problem... not sure where top check to drill this down
[12:27] <gofio> yakiza: I hear you
[12:28] <jeffguorg> yakiza, if you have no data or the data is not important or you are desperate, and you are sure it's a credential problem, you can clean the data and run mysql_install_db. and try to connect again. that's simplest solution but do not resolve your issue.
[12:29] <yakiza> jeffguorg:  yeah its a fresh install i have no data what so ever i tried doing this but i am getting some issues with the socket https://www.a2hosting.co.uk/kb/developer-corner/mysql/reset-mysql-root-password
[12:30] <yakiza> jeffguorg:  geting this ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[12:35] <jeffguorg> yakiza, check if the unix socket exists. it may not exist if you did not start the service, the service failed to start or crashed, or you modified the configuration of daemon. and you should have permission to access this unix socket file.
[13:19] <emmanuel__> hello
[13:20] <bryanroderyck> hi im having trouble to boot the ubuntu disk ..but when i used old linux mint it work?
[13:20] <wasanzt> I want to know what activities a particular user perform on a ubuntu server on a particular date
[13:20] <wasanzt> any log I can look at or a command to retrieve such info?
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> wasanzt: Unless you had an auditing tool already setup, Ubuntu and/or linux does not keep any sort of record of applications having been run
[13:23] <Pici> wasanzt: you could look at their bash history file, but thats a bit of a hit/miss.
[13:24] <bryanroderyck> can someone help me
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> wasanzt: It is possible the application may have written things to syslog, you could take a look in there. (Pici: They asked for a date range specific search, .bash_history doesn't time stamp execution calls.)
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> !patience | bryanroderyck
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> !mint | bryanroderyck, Also:
[13:25] <TJ-> wasanzt: if the user used sudo commands should be recorded in the auth.log
[13:25] <Pici> pragmaticenigma: ah, good point.
[13:25] <wasanzt> ok I will take a look
[13:26] <ren0v0> Hey, I have an encrypted SSD (ubuntu FDE) that died. I can mount the drive occasionally on my laptop but need the space to backup the drive so trying to do it from my desktop
[13:26] <ren0v0> However the failed drive has the same LVM volume names as the current OS, what can I do??
[13:27] <ren0v0> obviously the /dev/mapper/ubuntu-vg-root isn't available so I think its failing
[13:27] <loganrun> what is up with the send support crash report box that always pops up
[13:27] <loganrun> i don't understand why it always comes back
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> loganrun: You can look in /var/crash for a listing of applications that have crash logs pending to be sent as a report. If nothing is of concern to you in there, you can delete the files in that directory. If it happens again, It would be a good idea to investigate that application
[13:30] <loganrun> pragmaticenigma: oh, so once they are sent it delete the report?
[13:30] <loganrun> pragmaticenigma: so the box does not come back up? is that how it is supposed to work?
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> loganrun: Once you have acknowledge there was an application crash, it will clear. It depends on what popup you are seeing
[13:35] <usney2> tomreyn are you there?
[13:36] <usney2> I upgraded the bios and closing and reopening the lid still causes the same issue tomreyn
[13:36] <usney2> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2421589&p=13868533#post13868533
[13:36] <usney2> should I disable suspend when the laptop's lid is closed?
[13:37] <usney2> If so how do I do that?
[13:46] <yakiza> https://pastebin.com/MvzFie1X Hello guys i am getting this errror and apache is not running
[13:57] <blackflow> yakiza: please pastebin  journalctl -eu apache2.service
[14:07] <jellycode> how can i check to see what versions of g++ i can install from apt?
[14:07] <jellycode> apt-cache policy g++ only shows the one i have installed
[14:09] <miu5> Hi, during installation of 18.04,  how do i manually create a encrypted swap partition ?
[14:12] <ioria> jellycode, apt-cache search g++ | grep '^g++'
[14:13] <jellycode> Thanks ioria. it turns out that this article has the exact instructions i need, but it seems it's applicable to Ubuntu 16.04 and i'm using 14.04.  https://www.systutorials.com/241490/how-to-install-older-version-gcc-g-in-ubuntu-other-linux-distro-are-similar/
[14:14] <leftyfb> jellycode: 14.04 is EOL
[14:14] <leftyfb> !eol | jellycode
[14:14] <jellycode> understood
[14:14] <miu5> or is it better to use a swapfile ??   Or does Ubuntu 18.04 automatically use its own swapfile without me doing anything?
[14:15] <ioria> miu5, you asked how to see 'what versions of g++ i can install from apt'
[14:15] <jellycode> that was me
[14:15] <miu5> yep wrong person ioria
[14:15] <miu5> im asking something else lol
[14:15] <ioria> miu5, sorry
[14:15] <jellycode> We use 14.04 because it has a really old version of GLIBC which means the binaries we compile will work on most linux's
[14:16] <jellycode> isn't there a web UI where i can browse the list of binaries in apt?
[14:16] <jellycode> I found this, but it's broken :( https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/g++-4.4
[14:17] <ioria> jellycode, can you paste the output of my cmd
[14:17] <leftyfb> jellycode: sorry, but we cannot support you with 14.04 here. Feel free to sign up for https://ubuntu.com/esm and seek official support there.
[14:19] <jellycode> thanks leftyfb , it turns out i was able to do it after running apt update
[14:19] <miu5> is swap file activated by default on Ubuntu 18.04 or do i need to create one if i want to do manual ubuntu installation??
[14:23] <ioria> miu5, i think so
[14:24] <miu5> ioria, you think its activated by default?
[14:24] <ioria> miu5, in automatic partitioning, yes and yes you need falloate if you do the manual one
[14:24] <tomreyn> jellycode: note that if "we" run a non-commercial / personal project there, you can have up to three systems benefit from !ESM for free.
[14:29] <tomreyn> miu5: btw, the firefox flash package shoul dnow be available on the canonical-partner repository.
[14:31] <miu5> thanks tomreyn !
[14:32] <miu5> and ioria in custom installation im leaning towards it not being necessary as it says from 18.04 it uses a swap file instead and i can configure that later no?   https://askubuntu.com/questions/1075505/how-do-i-increase-swapfile-in-ubuntu-18-04#1075516
[14:33] <ioria> miu5, you can do whatever later
[14:33] <usney> tomreyn are you there?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> usney: if you need help, its better to ask it in the channel, more volunteers can read it
[14:35] <usney> okay
[14:41] <tomreyn> usney: hi. if you were planning to ask additional questions about something we worked on the other day, please do sum up the full story again for everyone and me as well. my meory is bad, and we want to enable everyone to support you.
[14:41] <usney> okay
[15:10] <plshelp000123> i need some help with steam
[15:10] <plshelp000123> everytime i open it it logs in like usual but after that it says something like could not connect, this could be due to a problem with your internet or the steam network
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> plshelp000123: You will have to contact Steam/Valve directly for support. This channel focuses on support of official software provided through Ubuntu's primary software channels.
[15:11] <plshelp000123> ok
[15:14] <subopt> How do i create a Gnome Panel Launcher that will start emacs with all my login shell env vars? ($SHELL = bash)
[15:18] <ioria> subopt, have you tried to launching a terminal and then invoke emacs ?
[15:19] <subopt> ioria: Yes. That works fine, of course.
[15:20] <sam155> hi
[15:21] <tomreyn> subopt: create a .desktop file for emacs with Terminal=true
[15:22] <subopt> tomreyn: Will that start a terminal too?
[15:22] <tomreyn> it'll start emacs in a terminal, you need to do this anyways, right?
[15:23] <ioria> subopt, other than that, you could try to set the vars in  ~/.profile
[15:24] <subopt> tomreyn : Not if i use tcsh (shudder). With csh/tcsh i can simply execute "csh -c 'emacs >& /dev/null'", and it acts like using 'disown' in bash.
[15:24] <subopt> Can't make it work with 'bash -e' though
[15:26] <tomreyn> subopt: maybe you want bash -c ?
[15:29] <tomreyn> you can also ask bash questions in #bash
[15:29] <subopt> tomreyn : Thanks. That worked (with '-l')
[15:30] <subopt> tomreyn : Yes, thought it'd be a gnome question though, and #gnome was dead so i came here. Thanks again!
[15:32] <tomreyn> you're welcome (if you also run this on ubuntu)
[15:42] <poot> Simple one - just getting a feel for what most folks do now. Workstation on 18.04 - wanting to test / develop esp. towards CI/automation in virtual environments. Outside of VMWare Workstation (and VirtualBox... ugh, don't trust oracle), do most folks just go for gnome-boxes?
[15:43] <poot> short verson - how do y'all do your virtualization? :D
[15:43] <lordcirth> poot, Gnome-boxes is shiny but it took all of 5 minutes to find a missing feature I needed. I'd use Vbox or virt-manager.
[15:43] <lordcirth> virt-manager isn't much harder to use than Vbox.
[15:43] <poot> yeah, virt-manager isn't as shiny, but it hasn't let me down
[15:45] <yeats> poot: gnome-boxes is great if your needs are straightforward (e.g., I just need a box up and running within a few minutes)
[15:45] <yeats> poot: but if you need features like network interface bridging and better graphics support, vbox is probably a better choice
[15:46] <poot> vbox = virtual box?
[15:46] <yeats> poot: yeah (saw your comment about that, but options are limited :-) )
[15:46] <poot> lol - I get it. I just... worked for a company that got acquired by oracle.
[15:47] <poot> I have abiding hate that is OT for #ubuntu :D
[15:47] <yeats> virt-manager works really well for more advanced stuff too, but spice isn't really that great in my experience so far
[15:47] <poot> yeah - I'm probably not doing anything so heavy as to require strong gfx/driver support.
[15:48] <yeats> poot: then I would start with gnome-boxes and move to virt-manager if you need to
[15:48] <poot> mostly ansible/puppet testing
[15:48] <tomreyn> then you may not want virtualization at all, but just containers?
[15:48] <poot> Cool. I like 'em both. Didn't know if there was a more "ubuntu-y" way
[15:48] <yeats> that too^^
[15:49] <poot> Yeah, vagrant and docker are on the menu, but that's down the road for what I have in mind.
[15:49] <tomreyn> lxd > docker
[15:51] <poot> I'll put that on the backburner. One technology at a time, lol. Thanks tomreyn
[16:27] <b1ack0p> hi. how can i change owner of soft link?
[16:27] <b1ack0p> it appears as root and doesnt let me edit the files inside it
[16:39] <Gallomimia> yikes. you may not register
[16:39] <Gallomimia> never had a scarier message from freenode :/
[16:40] <b1ack0p> huh
[16:40] <dfinn> It looks like I'm being effected by this ruby bug which has been fixed in Deb but has not made it into Ubuntu yet.  It's causing puppet to get stuck and consume 100% of CPU across many of my servers.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1772998
[16:40] <dfinn> I'm wondering if anyone else has run into this and/or looking for suggestions on what I might have for options
[16:41] <Gallomimia> gotta thank you for suggesting the reseating of all my hardware TJ-. I got the CPU cooler off. Looks very clean, until i got up close and personal. there's this solid layer of dust between the fan and the fins. didn't even know that comes off till now! i'll get that cleaned out, but it looks like I am missing my tube of arctic silver. So I gotta go pick some up before she will live again
[16:52] <Gallomimia> here's a photo of my "dustwall" causing the overheats: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NNawEkXMKutKXt6jMTg5ynKYUbPbH92W
[17:19] <tomreyn> dfinn: where do you see it fixed in debian?
[17:19] <tomreyn> oh it says there, sorry
[17:26] <tomreyn> dfinn: if you are certain that this issue which affects pcsd is the same which is filed against ruby2.3 on the debian bug tracker, then the bug report in ubuntu should be changed to ruby2.3 or re-reported (and linked to the previous ubuntu report) to apply to ruby2.3 as well
[17:28] <tomreyn> this also explains the different handling. buntu packages "pcs" is in the 'universe' pocket whereas 'ruby2.3' is in main (would get actual support)
[17:30] <dv_> hi guys.
[17:30] <dv_> please tell me that the decision to freeze 32 bit libraries at the 18.04 LTS state has been reverted
[17:30] <dv_> otherwise linux gaming is pretty much dead on ubuntu and I will move to a different distro
[17:31] <lordcirth> dv_, I have not heard that Canonical will be supporting i386 after all. I don't think they will.
[17:32] <dv_> I don't mean i386 releases. I mean i386 libraries etc.
[17:32] <dv_> what if for example a 32-bit windows game uses new OpenGL or vulkan APIs?
[17:33] <dv_> and how does that work with nvidia driver blobs for example, whose userland libraries have 32-bit components?
[17:34] <ioria> dv_, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/is-ubuntu-not-dropping-32-bit-app-support-after-all
[17:34] <dv_> ioria: not all libraries can be frozen
[17:34] <dv_> as said, driver related stuff _must not_ be frozen
[17:35] <dfinn> @tomreyn I can't be certain that that issue reported is 100% identical to mine but it sure seems like it.  when we see puppet get hung and use 100% cpu strace shows it in a sched_yield loop and it stays that way until there is some manual intervention.  sometimes for days and weeks.
[17:36] <ioria> dv_, they might make use of snaps (it's only a speculation)
[17:37] <dfinn> I've found multiple ruby bug reports saying this is fixed but this Ubuntu bug report (and this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1783161) both sound like the same thing I'm seeing and report that it's not been fixed in Ubuntu yet
[17:38] <dfinn> This Debian link claims they fixed the bug a couple of years ago : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=876377
[17:39] <dv_> ioria: and how is this supposed to work with steam, proton, wine?
[17:41] <ioria> dv_, no idea  (with a different confinement maybe)
[17:42] <April667> Does anyone know how to install add-apt-repository on ubuntu 18.04?  I keep getting a message saying that the command isn't supported
[17:46] <ioria> April667, software-properties-common is installed ?
[17:46] <April667> Yes it is.  I reinstalled it too
[17:47] <tomreyn> dfinn: which ubuntu version do your affected systems run?
[17:47] <ioria> April667, file /usr/bin/add-apt-repository
[17:48] <tomreyn> dfinn: also which architecture, which kernel (GA or HWE), which ruby packages are installed in which version?
[17:49] <dv_> ioria: so I'd have to create an entire container for every single windows game I wanna play with wine? for every single windows application I want to use with wine?
[17:49] <dv_> pure insanity.
[17:50] <April667> Okay if I run ~$  apt-file search add-apt-repositorysoftware-properties-common: /usr/bin/add-apt-repositorysoftware-properties-common: /usr/share/man/man1/add-apt-repository.1.gz
[17:51] <tomreyn> April667: please use a pastebin
[17:51] <tomreyn> !paste | April667
[17:51] <ioria> April667, i asked for 'file /usr/bin/add-apt-repository'
[17:53] <ioria> April667, and please, what ubuntu release ?
[17:53] <April667> Sorry https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r7qRSXxsmY/
[17:53] <April667> 18.04
[17:53] <ioria> April667, now pste the error you got
[17:53] <ioria> *paste
[17:54] <tomreyn> ...saying that "the command isn't supported"
[17:54] <April667> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8BtHwcJR2y/
[17:54] <dfinn> @tomreyn I believe we've only seen this on 16.04 but that's also probably 90% of what we run.  4.4.0-148-generic, ruby 2.4.2p198 (2017-09-14 revision 59899) [x86_64-linux]
[17:55] <ioria> April667, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:some/ppa
[17:55] <tomreyn> dfinn: which of the two is installed on these systems?  dpkg -l ruby ruby2.3
[17:56] <ioria> April667, not the url
[17:56] <dfinn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cQgYys8Kyt/
[17:57] <tomreyn> April667: i think the full string should work, too, but cosmic != bionic. you run 18.04 "bionic beaver", not 17.10 "cosmic cuttlefish"
[17:59] <tomreyn> dfinn: i'd say use    ubuntu-bug ruby2.3    on one of these systems to file a bug report against the proper package (you can continue this from your desktop computer by copying the url it prints after collecting relevant data)
[17:59] <April667> Sorry. I'm really new at this. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xCjm3qB6R9/  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xCjm3qB6R9/
[18:00] <dfinn> ok, thanks @tomreyn, working on that now
[18:00] <TJ-> Gallomimia: that layer of fluff is typical and easy to miss
[18:00] <tomreyn> dfinn: please be sure to add links to the debian bug report as well as the other ubuntu bug reports you assume may be related.
[18:00] <ioria> April667, sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
[18:00] <April667> How am I running cosmic cuttlefish?  (I'm really new at this)
[18:01] <April667> Still this same result
[18:01] <ioria> April667, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[18:02] <ioria> April667, wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
[18:03] <ioria> April667, sudo apt-key add winehq.key
[18:03] <ioria> April667, and again  sudo apt-add-repository https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
[18:04] <April667> It's still not working https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RJbYtQJM6N/
[18:05] <tomreyn> you missed a line:   sudo apt-key add winehq.key
[18:07] <tomreyn> April667: ^ run this missing line now.  also, what's the output of:   lsb_release -a
[18:07] <April667> How do I find the output of Isb_release -a?
[18:08] <tomreyn> LSB, not ISB
[18:08] <tomreyn> you run it in a terminal: lsb_release -a
[18:09] <tomreyn> do you need to teletype everything, does copy + paste not work?
[18:10] <April667> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zWvxCpFdw3/
[18:10] <April667> Still not working.
[18:11] <tomreyn> sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu bionic main'
[18:11] <April667> I apologize about being slow.  This is my first week with Linux
[18:11] <tomreyn> April667: i think this will work
[18:11] <dfinn> @tomreyn, submitted, let me know if  you think I missed anything and thanks for your help : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby2.3/+bug/1834072
[18:11] <tomreyn> April667: no need to apologize, i'm just asking to make sure we're not making you do things which are no needed.
[18:12] <April667> Thank you so much for your understanding :)  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wpBcKfYCYh/
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> dfinn: your kernel isnt up to date?
[18:13] <dfinn> on this particular system it's not but we are seeing this on systems with all the latest updates as well
[18:13] <dfinn> I can update that to reflect the latest
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> dfinn: you can reproduce this on different machines kernels correct?
[18:14] <dfinn> yes, I need to start tracking it better on our end to be sure but I believe we've seen this across various kernel versions
[18:14] <tomreyn> dfinn: nice bug report. i assume you didn't use ubuntu-bug on purpose. if you later want to add logs, you can use   apport-collect 1834072   - but it may not be needed.
[18:14] <April667> It still doesn't work thought.  I've been haven't been able to call it with outer software either
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> dfinn: you might also mention this in your bug, you tested this, the more info the developers have, the better
[18:15] <dfinn> ok, will do
[18:15] <tomreyn> April667: hmm this works on my system, let me see what i may have missed
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> dfinn: finding other users that are also affected will also help your bug, perhaps in #ubuntu-server?
[18:17] <dfinn> I could try that, I did post other links to others who have reported bugs.  And they have gone untouched for several years
[18:17] <tomreyn> April667: please run this and post the URL:    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[18:19] <tomreyn> dfinn: it can matter greatly which release pocket a package belongs to. are you aware of the different support levels of ubuntu release pockets?
[18:19] <April667> https://termbin.com/pxl7
[18:19] <dfinn> I'm not aware of that
[18:19] <dfinn> I'm trying to edit the bug to add kernel info but I don't see a way to edit it?
[18:21] <lordcirth> dv_, https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> dfinn: you can add updates on 'add comment' if you test things
[18:22] <tomreyn> April667: apt-cache policy apturl 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:24] <April667> https://termbin.com/dkcw
[18:24] <tomreyn> dfinn: There's a yellow edit icon on the same line as "Bug Description" if you'd prefer to edit your inital post. But comments work, too.
[18:25] <dfinn> great, thanks!
[18:26] <tomreyn> April667: this repository you have configured there is for linux mint, not ubuntu.
[18:26] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~trebelnik-stefina/+archive/ubuntu/cinnamon
[18:27] <April667> Freak.  How do I configure it for Ubuntu.
[18:27] <tomreyn> April667: maybe your apt-add-repository script is too?   apt-cache policy software-properties-common 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <April667> https://termbin.com/uiki
[18:29] <tomreyn> April667: i suggest you    sudo apt install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:trebelnik-stefina/cinnamon && sudo apt install cinnamon-desktop-environment
[18:29] <tomreyn> right, you have a mixed ubuntu / mint system
[18:30] <tomreyn> due to bad choice of PPAs
[18:30] <April667> Doesn't that delete the desktop environment for Cinnamon?
[18:30] <tomreyn> it will delete non ubuntu cinnamon packages off your ubuntu system
[18:31] <tomreyn> then install the cinnamon desktop that is in ubuntu
[18:33] <April667> Kk.  I guess I messed up that installation.
[18:33] <tomreyn> that's another way to put it.
[18:34] <tomreyn> here's what we have to say about PPAs:
[18:34] <tomreyn> !ppa
[18:34] <April667> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z5SCFfsJBg/  Should I remove these packages?
[18:36] <tomreyn> April667: it's safe to do so, so personally i would. it's not strictly required.
[18:37] <tomreyn> April667: you should install those 25 pending upgrades, though
[18:37] <April667> How do I do that again?
[18:39] <tomreyn> April667: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:40] <tomreyn> (you could also do it on the GUI)
[18:40] <April667> Kk.  The last line was what I was missing
[18:42] <April667> Should I try installing it now?
[18:43] <tomreyn> !who | April667
[18:43] <tomreyn> April667: install what?
[18:45] <April667> Sorry - Should I use "sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ cosmic main'"?
[18:46] <tomreyn> April667: no. let's do it the right way, so i'll have to ask some annoying questions, but you'll learn and nnot just follow instructions...
[18:47] <April667> Kk.
[18:47] <tomreyn> April667: where did you read you could / should do  "sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ cosmic main'" in the forst place?
[18:47] <tomreyn> *first
[18:49] <TJ-> tomreyn: first sentence in "man add-apt-repostory" REPOSITORY STRING section :)
[18:50] <TJ-> tomreyn: "... In the first form, REPOSITORY will just be appended to /etc/apt/sources.list "
[18:51] <usney> I created a cron job and it doesn't load when I login. I used the reboot option and put the location of the command there which is /usr/bin/blueman-manager.
[18:51] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, but that's not my point. the command can actually work as it is, it just did not work on April667's system because she had add-apt-repostory installed from Linux Mint which does not know about "cosmic"
[18:51] <usney> when I check the status of cron it says it started it.
[18:51] <usney> What am I doing wrong?
[18:52] <tomreyn> TJ-: also, April uses bionic, not cosmic,
[18:52] <April667> @tomreyn I wanted to install wine so I went to their website (https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu) and tried to follow the instructions for 18.04.  It didn't work so I tried to follow some instructions from a similar question in askUbuntu. Those solutions still didn't work so I posted a question on AskUbuntu (https://askubuntu.com/questions/1153647/how-
[18:52] <April667> do-i-fix-add-apt-repository-command-isnt-supported-error-in-ubuntu-18-04) and was told to install the cosmic version,
[18:53] <April667> So I came here
[18:55] <tomreyn> April667: okay, thanks for summing it up. generally it helps us tremendously to help you when you sum up these things (which how-tos am i'm following, with http address, what did i try so far, what did not seem to work) when you ask questions here.
[18:55] <April667> Okay.  Next time I'll do that too.
[18:56] <tomreyn> April667: so maybe that's something you could add next time you ask around here - which you're welcome to.
[18:56] <hans109h> I'm running Ubuntu 19.04 with Gnome on :0, on this machine I run a tigerVNC server on :1 and use Cinnamon for a desktop environment.  As of today (or more likely as of a reboot 2 days ago) Cinnamon does not load themes and I an unable to make any changes to settings including cinnamon settings and things like the color of text in the terminal.  I'm seeing the following error: dbus-daemon[18792]: [session uid=1000 pid=18790]
[18:56] <hans109h> Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.secrets': timed out (service_start_timeout=120000ms).  Any help in debugging would be great.
[18:57] <tomreyn> April667: wine is also available in ubuntu itself, so you don't really *have* to install winehq.org's
[18:57] <pavlos> usney: can you paste the cron job?
[18:57] <usney> okay
[18:58] <usney> pavlos does it have to be for a root cron job or can it just be a single user with crontab -e -u username?
[18:58] <pavlos> usney: either ...
[18:58] <tomreyn> April667: so you woud normally just run "sudo apt udpdate && sudo apt install wine" and be done.    winehq.org provide some newer versions, however, so you can use their software repository if you prefer to. in this case you can just follow their how-to at https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu now again and it should just work.
[18:59] <usney> okay pavlos getting the logs ready
[18:59] <pavlos> usney: if you waant to run upon reboot, root is a better option
[19:00] <usney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zj4nwsjFm3/ pavlos
[19:00] <usney> it is a gui app for managing bluetooth
[19:01] <April667> tomreyn, Thank you so much.  Also now that non ubuntu packages are removed, will I be able to install PPAs for other software?
[19:01] <xamithan> Are you sure it doesn't need any env vars to run that cron
[19:01] <pavlos> usney: could be that gui is not up (X system)
[19:02] <usney> how do I have the command run after gui is loaded x system?
[19:02] <usney> sounds like I should use a systemd unit script
[19:03] <tomreyn> April667: you should now be able to use the apt-add-repository command again fine, yes. but keep in mind that PPAs can be risky, as you've seen yourself today. they can override or replace important parts of ubuntu with other or incompatible software and even break the system (worst case).
[19:04] <pavlos> usney: do you have /etc/bluetooth/main.conf, there is an AutoEnable option make it true
[19:05] <usney> already set to true pavlos
[19:06] <tomreyn> April667: before i decide whether or not to use a PPA, i always look at a PPA's website first. PPAs hosted on launchpad.net always have a web page at a canoical (not Canonical Ltd.) URL. The PPA APT source you had was 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/trebelnik-stefina/cinnamon/ubuntu cosmic main'. From this you can construct the web page URL: https://launchpad.net/~trebelnik-stefina/+archive/ubuntu/cinnamon
[19:07] <pavlos> usney: is there anything in syslog regarding bluetooth?
[19:07] <woenx> Hi. I created a question on answers.launchpad.net, but it has not seen any activity since then. It's this one: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/681404 . How could I elevate it to a bug?
[19:07] <usney> bluetooth works fine pavlos
[19:07] <tomreyn> April667: on this web page, always read the PPA description (which here points out that it's not for Ubuntu but Linux Mint).
[19:08] <usney> I just want the manager app to run when I log in
[19:09] <tomreyn> April667: also, further down the page you can look at the "Overview of published packages", and select your Ubuntu versions' codename (can be queried with "lsb_release -c") - if available. this is useful since not all PPAs provide packages for every Ubuntu release.
[19:10] <April667> tomreyn, so only use PPAs for Ubuntu?  Also another dumb question, should I just ignore these errors (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mVvTN4brDY/)?
[19:12] <woenx> Any ideas on how to report it as a bug?
[19:12] <April667> Let me write that down
[19:13] <tomreyn> dfinn: I forgot to get back to you to explain the difference between Ubuntu release pockets and their support level. Please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories#Components and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Official_Support which explains this well.
[19:13] <pavlos> usney: maybe you can add blueman-manager in the Startup Apps instead of a cron job @reboot
[19:14] <pavlos> usney: startup apps happen after X
[19:14] <tomreyn> !bug | woenx: I don't think you can convert a wuestion to a bug (I only know of the other way around). So just file a new bug, I'd say
[19:14] <woenx> tomreyn: I wanted to file a bug in the first place, but I couldn't possibly way a find to do it, only a question
[19:15] <woenx> what if i don't know what package is causing the bug?
[19:15] <tomreyn> April667: use only PPAs which provide packages for your Ubuntu installations' codename ("lsb_release -c") - you can check on the PPA's info page which Ubuntu codename it provides packages for.
[19:16] <tomreyn> April667: while you're new, try not to use PPAs at all, i'd say, or very sparingly. always prefer software in ubuntu proper over a PPA.
[19:17] <woenx> also, the ubuntu-bug command doesn't let me add comments or develop my problem.
[19:19] <tomreyn> April667: these errors are about some of your input, you asked to install "wine-stable 3.0-1ubuntu". while this makes sense to humans, it does not (ior not in this format) to the 'apt' command. apt reads this as "install package 'wine-stable', and also package '3.0-1ubuntu'". you don't actually need to provide the version number, it will just install the latest it has available.
[19:19] <tomreyn> !latest | However, also note this, April667
[19:20] <ioria> April667, have you sorted out the issue ?
[19:22] <tomreyn> woenx: i'd probably file it against libinput-bin - it may also be "udev" or "linux", but this can be modified later.
[19:22] <April667> @tomreyn.  Another dumb question - software in ubuntu proper is the stuff from 'application store' right?  It told me "You should explicitly select one to install" when I tried to install wine, should I just ignore that?
[19:23] <woenx> aha
[19:23] <woenx> I found a link to manually report a bug. i think i'll use that one and copy the contents of the question
[19:23] <April667> Tbh I'll be happy if I can just get a stable version without messing up too bad.
[19:23] <tomreyn> woenx: it's true that the ubuntu-bug does not immediately enable you to discuss the details of your bug, but you can do so in the last stages of reporting the bug with it.
[19:24] <woenx> tomreyn: , it just creates a report with the package version, system kernel and all that, and sends it to canonical, with no option to review it, add more details or anything like that
[19:24] <tomreyn> woenx: you will be forwarded to a web page on launchpad.net where you'll be able to describe your bug.
[19:24] <woenx> tomreyn: no, it doesn't, i already tried twice. it just sends that information, but I'm no redirected to launchpad
[19:24] <iteratee> Any suggestions about where else to ask about mdadm imsm and secure boot?
[19:25] <tomreyn> woenx: that's just not true, you must be mixing up ubuntu-bug with something else, such as whoopsie
[19:25] <woenx> I just ran the command: ubuntu-bug blueman
[19:25] <woenx> then it asked me if it was a problem of external storage, display server, upgrade, etc.
[19:26] <woenx> I selected "other", it automatically created a report with my package version, and the option to send or not to send it. Once I click Send, the window closes and nothing else happens
[19:27] <tomreyn> April667: there are no dumb questions, definitely not when you're new. ;-) there are two types of software packages you can install on Ubuntu: deb packages (via the "apt" command, and the "Ubuntu Software" GUI) and snap packages (via the "snap" command, and the "Ubuntu Software" GUI).
[19:28] <tomreyn> April667: can you show the command you ran and the output it returned where you saw "You should explicitly select one to install"?
[19:28] <tomreyn> !paste | April667
[19:29] <tomreyn> woenx: can you share the full temrinal output?
[19:29] <woenx> there is no terminal output if I run the command from a terminal
[19:30] <woenx> I don't see a "verbose"option either
[19:31] <April667> @tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qMBmz6FhVT/
[19:31] <tomreyn> woenx: what'S the output of:  readlink -f /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
[19:31] <woenx> /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome
[19:32] <woenx> (if I run that, google chrome opens)
[19:32] <tomreyn> woenx: you did run this "ubuntu-bug blueman" command in a terminal window, not just on gnomes' "type to search" screen, right?
[19:32] <woenx> tomreyn: yes, of course
[19:33] <woenx> in gnome-terminal, I type: ubuntu-bug blueman and I hit enter
[19:33] <ioria> April667, sudo apt install wine-stable
[19:33] <April667> tomreyn So snap packages are proper ubuntu software?  And deb aren
[19:34] <April667> *aren't
[19:34] <woenx> then the program gathers information about my installation, and asks me whether to send it or not. After that, the prompt is given back to me in the terminal
[19:34] <ioria> April667, the contrary
[19:35] <tomreyn> woenx: what's in /etc/default/apport ?
[19:35] <tomreyn> woenx: enabled=...
[19:36] <April667> ioria Thank you so much
[19:36] <ioria> ok
[19:36] <woenx> tomreyn: this https://pastebin.com/nQTWYPYS
[19:36] <woenx> enabled=1
[19:38] <April667> tomreyn, weren't we just using an apt command to create a PPA thought?  Are PPA's part of proper Ubuntu software?
[19:38] <ioria> nope
[19:39] <woenx> I ended up submitting a bug with a similar content of the initial question I asked on launchpad.
[19:39] <woenx> Let's see if someone sees it
[19:39] <woenx> ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1834085 )
[19:40] <Gallomimia> big thanks again TJ- did you see my earlier message?
[19:41] <TJ-> Gallomimia: yes... hope it behaves nicely once you've cleaned it out
[19:41] <tomreyn> woenx: hmm, not sure why it's not spawning the web browser then. but you can do it this way: DISPLAY= ubuntu-bug blueman
[19:42] <woenx> oh, now it points me to a URL in the consols!
[19:42] <woenx> console*
[19:42] <Gallomimia> i do believe i'll need to pick up some arctic silver before i can put the cooler back on properly
[19:43] <Gallomimia> i might even shop for a new cooler while i'm there
[19:43] <woenx> tomreyn: at the end, I get this: (google-chrome-stable:4224): Gtk-WARNING **: 21:43:07.947: cannot open display:
[19:43] <Gallomimia> but yeah. that was a serious airflow problem. and nearly invisible until i got up close and personal
[19:44] <ioria> April667, let's say this: when an ubuntu version (like 16.04, or 18.04) is make available, it freezes ; it means that the software version cannot be changed (only fixed if any bug discovered); but what if you need a different/newer  version ? someone came up with PPA . But the official answer to this problem is : wait  for the next release  or install a newer release
[19:44] <tomreyn> woenx: okay, but you'll be able to continue the bug report using the url
[19:45] <woenx> tomreyn: the link actually does not work...
[19:45] <woenx> tomreyn: sorry, no, i was wrong
[19:45] <woenx> it creates a new bug, and I can attach the information it gathered.
[19:45] <ioria> April667, now we have snaps that can solve some of these problems
[19:45] <dbugger> Does anybody know how to prevent screentearing on Ubuntu18.04 with a Nvidia GTX 970?
[19:46] <tomreyn> April667: apt-add-repository is indeed an "apt command" which can be used to configure a PPA for use on your system. PPAs aren't part of proper Ubuntu, they are unsupported additions, thus need to be handled with care.
[19:47] <tomreyn> April667: to me, snap packages are on the same level as PPAs (sometimes worse, sometimes better).
[19:47] <tomreyn> !repos | April667
[19:48] <April667> Gotcha. @ioria and @tomreyn, Thank you so much.
[19:48] <ioria> April667, your original issue might be related to external packages installed that have changed the /etc/lsb-release features
[19:49] <tomreyn> April667: i didn't answer your questio about the more specific wine package apt asked you to provide, sorry. indeed, you will need to choose from one of the two options apt listed for you.
[19:49] <tomreyn> April667: i'm referring to https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qMBmz6FhVT/ - your choice is between packages "wine-stable" and "wine-development"
[19:50] <tomreyn> April667: example: sudo apt update && sudo apt install wine-stable
[19:51] <tomreyn> woenx: this bug report you did manually is not filed against any package, so it wont be handled, i assume.
[19:51] <tomreyn> woenx: that's one of the reasons i recommend using ubuntu-bug whenever possible, there are a lot of things that can go wrong when you file a bug manually
[19:52] <woenx> tomreyn: why not? At the start, it asked me whether I knew the package that was causing the bug, or if I was not sure. I checked the latter
[19:52] <woenx> I suspect it either has to do with libinput or with blueman, but I am not sure
[19:53] <woenx> I'll edit the bug
[19:53] <tomreyn> woenx: it's possible that there is someone checking those bug reports which are not filed against a specific package on a regular basis and updates them.
[19:53] <woenx> anyway, I added libinput to the bug report
[19:53] <woenx> if it helps
[19:55] <tomreyn> woenx: looks good now. i think the next step will be that a bot will update this bug report asking your to submit logs using:   sudo apport-collect 1834085     on the affected system
[19:56] <woenx> I can do that now if you think it will help
[19:57] <tomreyn> woenx: i think this can help you get a faster non boilerplate answer, which is why i'm bringing it up.
[19:58] <woenx> Thanks :)
[19:59] <tomreyn> woenx: yw. and unfortunately launchpad does not understand markdown - if you would like to undo those code sections you can click on the yellow edit icon to the right hand of "Bug description"
[19:59] <woenx> Yep, I saw that now. Thanks for noticing
[20:00] <tomreyn> personally i'd always place long log sections into a text file, makes them much more readable than on the bug report itself.
[20:00] <tomreyn> you can attach files manually on the very bottom.
[20:02] <Sven_vB> hi! I'm trying to use bionic 64bit to compile a static binary for cloudlinux. uname -a on the target says "2.6.32-954.3.5.lve1.4.59.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Dec 6 05:11:00 EST 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux". do I need special cross-compile options?
[20:02] <woenx> Aha
[20:02] <woenx> btw,  did the apport-collect command, but I don't see any changes in the bug report
[20:04] <woenx> On the console I saw a line saying something like: dpkg-query: could not find a package corresponding to libinput
[20:19] <Sven_vB> so I'm trying to compile a static nodejs using using Ubuntu bionic 64 bit (x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux) with no cross compile options (fingers crossed it will just work on cloudlinux), but make segfaults. any ideas? is this a nodejs-specific problem or might it be about my Ubuntu? http://paste.debian.net/plainh/772af378
[20:22] <lapidary> When I installed Nvidia drivers I needed to manually run startx via ssh, it seems to be starting a little early.  How does it start normally?
[20:35] <tomreyn> woenx: there's no binary package named "libinput" (there is a source package which is). binary packages start with "libinput"
[20:36] <woenx> start with "libinput"?
[20:36] <tomreyn> the package name starts with it
[20:37] <tomreyn> apt list --installed libinput*
[20:38] <tomreyn> woenx: i'm puzzled as to why    apport-collect 1834085     would report "dpkg-query: could not find a package corresponding to libinput" though, it should have been able to identify the binary packages you have installed which are based on this source page.
[20:39] <woenx> I don' t know. It seems that there are some bugs that need to be reported regarding the bug-reporting process ;)
[20:40] <tomreyn> woenx: maybe it's one of the many which have already been reported but not been fixed, yet.  you did run this very command, though, right?   apport-collect 1834085
[20:41] <woenx> tomreyn: , the "apt list --installed libinput*" command does not seem to work. it just says: listing.... done.
[20:41] <tomreyn> oh that's why, you dont have it installed :)
[20:41] <woenx> Yes, I ran it, and it asked me to authenticate to launchpad again in a browser windows
[20:41] <woenx> haha
[20:41] <woenx> If i run apt list --installed lib* I get exactly the same, are you sure I have no package installed starting by lib?
[20:42] <tomreyn> i jumped to conclusions, saw the "input: " lines on your log and assumed this must have been logged by libinput
[20:42] <woenx> If I type whereis libinput, I get: libinput: /usr/bin/libinput /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libinput /usr/share/man/man4/libinput.4.gz /usr/share/man/man1/libinput.1.gz
[20:43] <tomreyn> try this: dpkg -l libinput\*
[20:43] <woenx> Yep, it's there, version 1.10.4-1
[20:43] <tomreyn> what is "it"?
[20:44] <woenx> https://pastebin.com/BgE4ZNbr
[20:44] <woenx> here
[20:44] <woenx> that's the output
[20:45] <tomreyn> woenx: hmm, then the only explanation for "apt list --installed lib*" not outputting anything useful is  that you cleared your apt cache, would need to sudo apt update beforehand
[20:45] <woenx> let's see...
[20:46] <woenx> I just apt update'd and I get the same thing with apt list --installed
[20:46] <ses1984> is there any way to get the raw source that goes into compiling /usr/share/misc/magic.mgc ?
[20:47] <tomreyn> woenx: so you just get this one line of output?   Listing... Done
[20:47] <woenx> Yep
[20:48] <tomreyn> woenx: something must be seriously wrong with apt then, i guess. if you want to examine this:    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog
[20:48] <woenx> ehhhh, what does that do exactly?
[20:49] <tomreyn> woenx: gather some information on the health of your apt installation
[20:49] <woenx> https://termbin.com/kwhw
[20:49] <tomreyn> s/installation/configuration and package information/
[20:50] <tomreyn> plenty of PPAs, maybe you have some bad packages installed.
[20:53] <tomreyn> woenx: it's also possible that you have leftover packages or package versions installed fro which you no longer have an apt source configured. you can use this script to identify those: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[20:53] <woenx> aha
[20:53] <tomreyn> !find /usr/share/misc/magic.mgc
[20:54] <woenx> I don't know, I've never had any problem with apt. The only error i get from time to time is from when I installed Google Earth, which apparently added a repository which is no longer valid
[20:54] <tomreyn> ses1984: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&keywords=%2Fusr%2Fshare%2Fmisc%2Fmagic.mgc&searchon=contents
[20:54] <iteratee> Ok, I'll just file a bug. I was hoping someone here would at least acknowledge the issue.
[20:55] <dcarmich> I'm trying to set up preseeding, and successfully have my script putting the shell script I want to execute via late_command into the /preseed directory on my new ISO. But, even when I specify "preseed/late_command string preseed/my-script-name.sh" the installer complains "command not found."
[20:55] <dcarmich> How should I be specifying the script path in my preseed file?
[20:56] <ses1984> tomreyn: that's the package that this file comes from, but the magic.mgc file is in compiled binary format, i need the source used to compile it. it's not in that package
[20:57] <rfm> I just updated my disco system, and it's damaged somehow. When I boot, the GUI never comes up; if I swap to another virtual console, I can log in there, but bash says "no job control in background: bad file descriptor". then if I just press enter at the shell prompt, the session crashes and I'm back at the login prompt. I can boot into recovery mode shell, but what to do?
[20:58] <tomreyn> iteratee: mdadm with intels fakeraid is not a common configuration, i think the ubuntu installer doesn't support it, either (at least not in terms of creating such arrays, i would think)
[20:59] <tomreyn> (and this channel is fully volunteer run)
[20:59] <tomreyn> well, almost
[21:00] <ses1984> found it https://github.com/file/file/tree/master/magic/Magdir
[21:00] <tomreyn> ses1984: it should be in the source package, though - which you should be able to come across by following the links on these pages
[21:00] <Bray90820_> Is ubuntu 20.04 gonna be an LTS?
[21:00] <pavlos> yes
[21:01] <Bray90820_> And am I right that it will no longer supper x86 apps?
[21:01] <tomreyn> iteratee: https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/file -> Download file -> file_5.32.orig.tar.xz
[21:01] <pavlos> Bray90820_: https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[21:02] <tomreyn> ses1984: this above line i just incorrectly addressed to iteratee was for you
[21:04] <tomreyn> Bray90820_: https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts
[21:04] <ses1984> thanks
[21:08] <Bray90820_> Now i just need to figure out if my logical volume manager will work
[21:08] <Bray90820_> Is there an alpha or bets version around to test or not yet?
[21:08] <Bray90820_> *Beta
[21:10] <tomreyn> neither
[21:10] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1
[21:10] <tomreyn> but work on 20.04 has not even started
[21:11] <pavlos> Bray90820_: there are no nightly builds on 20.04 yet
[21:11] <tomreyn> what are you trying to do anyways?
[21:12] <Bray90820_> What about 19.10 so i can test my apps and see if they work without x86 support
[21:12] <Bray90820_> I wanna test my apps to see if they require x86 or not
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Bray90820_: What release interest you ? Here ubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ .
[21:14] <tomreyn> you could just install any supported ubuntu version in a VM or container and    apt purge *:i386    and dpkg --remove-architectrure i386
[21:15] <tomreyn> (and disable i386 apt sources)
[21:15] <Bray90820_> tomreyn so running that code would remove x86 support?
[21:16] <tomreyn> in apt, yes
[21:16] <tomreyn> also in dpkg
[21:17] <tomreyn> i don't think you can force an amd64 cpu not to run i386 code, but i may be wrong.
[21:17] <Bray90820_> I just want it to be the same as future ubuntu releases so i k ow weather or not everything will work
[21:19] <Bray90820_> tomreyn you understand what i want?
[21:20] <TJ-> tomreyn: technically it is possible with kernel CONFIG but rarely done
[21:20] <tomreyn> Bray90820_: i don't know what future ubuntu releases will be like, no one knows. but it will probablöy get close to what ubuntu would be if there were no i386 deb support.
[21:21] <tomreyn> TJ-: thanks
[21:21] <Bray90820_> Thankd
[21:24] <TJ-> iteratee: I must have missed your original issue report, what's the problem?
[21:30] <tomreyn> On this channels' IRC logs, 17.5h ago.
[21:33] <rfm> I found my upgrade problem, it was the kernel modules package. Booting into the older backup kernel worked.  I purged the new kernel packages and reran upgrade. The new kernel packages (5.0.0-19) have now disappeared from the ubuntu repositories!
[21:37] <TJ-> rfm: eeek, I *think* 5.0.0-20 is due to land in -proposed later today, it may have already if -19 has gone AWOL
[21:43] <iteratee> TJ: I had a working mdadm array with imsm external metadata.
[21:43] <iteratee> It's not the root install, but is shared with windows.
[21:43] <iteratee> The array will no longer assemble because of secure boot and kernel lockdown.
[21:44] <iteratee> It appears that mdadm reads /dev/mem to find the option rom data.
[21:44] <iteratee> I used strace to verify this.
[21:44] <TJ-> iteratee: really? I've used mdadm alot and never realised it does that. Are there error messages in the kernel log too?
[21:45] <iteratee> TJ-: yes, there are error messages in the log. The man page is missing, but Google answers the issue.
[21:46] <iteratee> TJ-: I think it tries to read UEFI variables first, but at least on my motherboard the driver doesn't export any.
[21:46] <TJ-> iteratee: I see it in probe_roms_init()
[21:46] <TJ-> iteratee: hold tight whilst I investigate if there's an alternative
[21:51] <TJ-> iteratee: there may be a workaround; can you show me "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -vvvnnk )"
[21:52] <iteratee> TJ-: I'm not at the computer with the issue ATM.
[21:53] <iteratee> I will be in just over an hour. I can paste it then or email it.
[21:53] <TJ-> iteratee: OK; well when you can... there's some new functionality that scans by looking for signatures in the PCI config space which may be possible to use
[21:53] <TJ-> iteratee: I say 'new' but it was added in 2011 :)
[21:54] <TJ-> iteratee: I'd love to see your strace log too, since it failing to open /dev/mem may be expected and not vital to the issue
[21:54] <TJ-> iteratee: from what I can see in the source-code scanning /dev/mem is just one of several scanning/probing techniques it uses
[21:57] <iteratee> TJ-: I'll get you the whole strace log. I think the log from --detail-platform will be most relevant.
[22:04] <TJ-> iteratee: on the UEFI side, for AHCI it's looking for the variable "RstSataV"
[22:09] <tomreyn> rfm: i'm just downloading       linux-image-5.0.0-19-generic (5.0.0-19.20~18.04.1)    (on ubuntu 18.04) if it helps.
[22:27] <TJ-> iteratee: See "man mdadm" section ENVIRONMENT and "IMSM_NO_PLATFORM=1" for a workaround; I'm guessing that'd somehow need to be forced into the initramfs environment
[22:38] <TJ-> iteratee: looks like: "echo 'IMSM_NO_PLATFORM=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/mdadm; sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" should provide the workaround you need
[23:10] <de-facto> is there any way to completely destroy gnomes ability to send any notifications?
[23:12] <de-facto> it spams me with warnings that my mouse battery is empty every few seconds
[23:12] <de-facto> its extremely annoying and disrupts my workflow
[23:14] <de-facto> I never want gnome to be able to spam me with any popup notification ever, regardless of how urgent it thinks it might be to inform me
[23:15] <kk4ewt> install the tweak-tool and turn off notificaitons
[23:16] <de-facto> yeah gnome notifications about battery dont care at all about those settings
[23:16] <wgreenberg> hi, i'm running Ubuntu 18.04 and trying to "su <some_user>" as root, but getting this error from pam_systemd: "Cannot create session: Already running in a session". am i missing something obvious about why i can't change my user id?
[23:17] <de-facto> i think i need to destroy the backend for notifications to get rid of that spam
[23:17] <wgreenberg> i can "su" other users, but not this particular one
[23:18] <wgreenberg> it happens to be one which a systemd service uses
[23:20] <de-facto> I really wish there was a setting to disable ANY popup notifications once and for all in gnome. but it seems the devs know better how their users should like their spam...
[23:22] <Krennic> thsts why i prefer xfce4 than gnome sucks
[23:25] <deltab> de-facto: maybe you can kill or suspend the notification daemon; but that won't prevent programs such as web browsers from displaying their own
[23:26] <de-facto> i only want gnome to be unable to produce any notifications
[23:26] <de-facto> the gnome shell itself i mean
[23:27] <systemd0wn> Question, Post upgrade to 19.04 I don't see the ability to share my wifi connection over my ethernet anymore. Did that checkbox get moved somewhere?
[23:31] <inascime> hey guys.... so I just installed Ubuntu 18.04 and looking through Nautilus I found my windows partitions in "Other locations". I was wondering what is the absolute path to that so I can access them from the shell?
[23:33] <inascime> I have several partitions but I'm seeing only 1 under /media
[23:33] <deltab> inascime: open a window showing the contents of a partition, to ensure that it's mounted
[23:34] <inascime> oh I see they get mounted automatically if I try to open them in Nautilus
[23:34] <inascime> cool thanks
[23:37] <deltab> you can list the mounted partitions using mount or lsblk in the terminal, or with the disk utility
[23:37] <chieta> is the live usb support to ram copying?
[23:38] <inascime> deltab how would you go about mounting them all on bootup ?
[23:39] <inascime> oh nm that question i guess i can put them on /etc/fstab
[23:40] <deltab> inascime: yes, or make systemd mount units -- or use the Disks utility which should have a checkbox for it
[23:41] <deltab> https://askubuntu.com/questions/164926/how-to-make-partitions-mount-at-startup
[23:41] <TJ-> inascime: generally, udisks via 'udisksctl' is used to mount those under /media/$USER/<LABEL-or-UUID>
[23:42] <TJ-> inascime: e.g. "udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb4"
[23:42] <inascime> coolcool thanks
[23:43] <TJ-> inascime: see "man udisksctl"
[23:47] <deltab> systemd0wn: where did it used to be?
[23:57] <Sven_vB> does anyone know a program where people can play piano (with MIDI and/or keyboard input) together via network?
[23:57] <Sven_vB> (keyboard as in typing letters into a computer)
[23:58] <systemd0wn> deltab: It was in the gnome network config settings for the lan device. Same place you can change IP, etc.