[00:47] <tsimonq2> Congratulations to guiverc for becoming an official member of the Lubuntu project!
 oh lookit, the @wxl23 is on Telegram now!
 Django is awesome :)
 @wxl23 welcome welcome welcome
[20:08] <wxl> hey Eickmeyer you know anyone good with graphics that might be interested in being a regular lubuntu contributor?
 you mean other than yourself... oh wait that's right, you're not a graphics guy :)
 *shot*
 maybe we could create an algorithm to create a randomized wallpaper following some kind of random walk....
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> wxl: Not off the top of my head, unles eylul would want to help with something.
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> Of course, that depends on the scope.
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> She's in a bit of non-commital right now.
[20:27] <wxl> well, we just really have no one really contributing artwork right now. and we suck at it, so. :)
[20:28] <wxl> here's the last wallpaper we made https://childrendrawingcenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Nightmares-among-Children.jpg
 wxl: you didn't like me random walk idea?
[20:29] <wxl> believe it or not @HMollerCl it's not very artistic. i've tried before
 XD
 ooh ooh ooh I know.  ***FRACTAL ART BACKGROUNDS!***  *shot repeatedly*   (I am just joking but still xD)
[20:30] <wxl> simon insane? he went from noob to dd in like what an hour?
 in public yes
 behind closed doors
 ... well...
[20:30] <wxl> DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE 3D FRACTAL ART!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 randow walk fractals!!!!!
[20:30]  * wxl passes the Dutchie to the left hand side
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> Uh... wow.
 I believe the wxl has failed
 again
[20:37] <wxl> see what i mean?
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> And here I thought I was nuts. Where have you people been my whole life?
 *drags wxl out back and ties them to a post*
[20:37] <wxl> i can't even figure out what channel to type in and you expect me to provide art??!?!!??!@?@@@Y!$&*^^&^^&!^&!&&&7™
[20:39] <Eickmeyer> I'm willing to bet eylul is sleeping at the moment (she lives in Istanbul, or therebouts), but you can ask her in #ubuntustudio-offtopic. Ping her Telegram handle (@azbulutlu)
[20:40] <Eickmeyer> She might be willing to help with something. She's got a great imagination.
[20:40] <kc2bez> Perhaps some sort of contest? Though I have no idea what we could offer in reward? 
[20:49] <TJ-> did someone mention art?
 the Walter did
[20:49] <wxl> yes!
[20:50] <wxl> you do art, too, oh kernel master?
[21:02] <TJ-> wxl: it has been known :)
[21:15] <wxl> TJ-: well we could use some wallpapers and a new lenny (our mascot) and our release graph needs to be updated and... and...
[21:18] <TJ-> wxl: what's wrong with the 19.04 wallpaper? I liked that and then when I was testing the 19.10 due to the boot failure issue I was shocked to see the jagged triangles; very jarring 
[21:18] <TJ-> oh I have a lenny in my uniemoji >> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[21:19] <wxl> TJ-: nothing's wrong with 19.04 but would like to do something different with every release
[21:19] <wxl> but afaik that hasn't changed so if you're seeing those darn triangles i'm going to throw hands really quick
[21:19] <TJ-> wxl: why not be subtle... change the colour slightly or something
[21:19] <kc2bez> We need an ermine Lenny
[21:19] <wxl> ^^^ that
[21:19] <TJ-> which that?
[21:20] <wxl> i don't know that we have the originals anymore
[21:20] <wxl> ermine lenny
[21:20] <kc2bez> We missed a dingo Lenny :(
[21:20] <wxl> i know
[21:20] <wxl> it makes me sad and upset
[21:20] <wxl> which is why we really need an art person!!!
[21:21] <TJ-> lenny is the penguin thing small in the corner on the phabriactor page?
[21:21] <wxl> yep
[21:21] <TJ-> it's SVG?
[21:21] <TJ-> is it packaged?
[21:21] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Lenny
[21:21] <wxl> there's various svg's that you can use
[21:22] <wxl> we should make a lenny package :)
[21:22] <kc2bez> Lennify your Lubuntu
[21:22] <TJ-> yes, there should be. Who are these mythical art and marketing teams?
[21:23] <TJ-> I have to say, most of those poses look like lenny is either constipated or confused 
[21:24] <TJ-> the eyes should be more vertically oval, and the pupils in matching positions
[21:25] <wxl> it was made by rafael/redwolf who stepped down :(
[21:26] <wxl> @tsimonq2: were there some special license considerations on raf's artwork?
[21:26] <TJ-> the art itself is very good, and a nice set of alternatives
[21:27] <wxl> we have another artwork person that really helped us get there with 18.10 but they've been busy
[21:27] <wxl> so it's kind of.. no one
[21:28] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T75
[21:28] <TJ-> is the copyright licence clearly recorded; that's always the major issue if not handled from the start
[21:28] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T76
[21:29] <wxl> i'll have tsimonq2 get back to us on that; i'm just going by memory :/
[21:30] <wxl> also the release cycle image at the bottom here needs fixed https://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[21:33] <kc2bez> wxl: is lugito not working?
[21:33] <wxl> apparently not
[21:34] <wxl> wait
[21:34] <wxl> yeah lugito
[21:34] <wxl> telegram is ok
[21:35] <kc2bez> Yeah not lubot lugito our phab tie in. 
[21:36] <kc2bez> Geez, punctuation might have added clarity to that^
[21:36] <wxl> oh hm i should probably do this in screen huh
[21:37] <kc2bez> It helps if you get dumped :P
[21:37] <wxl> ok i think we're set now
[21:37] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T76
[21:37]  * wxl sighs
[21:38]  * kc2bez is sorry
[21:39] <kc2bez> No worries wxl I just thought I'd mention that I noticed it. 
[21:40] <wxl> ugh i'm installing tmux i can't deal with this screen crap
[21:40] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T76
[21:40] <wxl> well invalid password for lugito, so that's a thing
[21:41] <wxl> but also ssl.SSLError: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED] certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:847)
[21:41] <wxl> @tsimonq2: fix lugito love you bye
 loljk ok
[21:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: probably just a simple amtter of getting a new cert from phab
[21:43] <wxl> ..but if that's going to be a thing we might have to automate processes
 That's @teward001's fun
[22:22] <wxl> @teward001 how can i easily grow root on an lxd container? zfs if it matters
 @tsimonq2 does Lugito inherit from the system ca-certificates store or does it roll its own
[22:32]  * wxl shrugs
 wxl: good question
 thatd be a question for #lxcontainers
 I dont have the answer
[22:33] <wxl> kk
 are we out of space or smth?
 and as for the certs
 if Lugito inherits from ca-certificates
 I just have to add the internal CA to Lugito's server
 and Simon has to restart the bot
 and it should then verify
 without issue
[22:34] <wxl> i can do the restart
 ok give me 30 minutes I am dead tired from work today
 it was a stressful day so I need a short rest
[22:35] <wxl> all good. i'm here for another 2 hours
[22:36] <wxl> and meanwhile i'm faffing around with this enormous zip file and how to deal with it *sigh*
[22:36] <wxl> and refreshing the status page of work's payment processor which had a power outage at 9am and has been down ALL DAY ugh
 @teward001 [@tsimonq2 does Lugito inherit from the system ca-certificates store or does it r …], No clue
 OK we will need to test that
 Waaait...
 Lugito is the one still on my personal server
[22:38] <wxl> no
 I still need to move that over
 Yes?
 Yes
[22:38] <wxl> there's a container for it
 hail hydra.
 It's not there
[22:38] <wxl> it's there
 It's running
 wxl: doesnt mean it's actually there yet?
 @wxl [<wxl> it's there], The config is old
[22:38] <wxl> well go fix it then!
 I'm 110% sure, wxl
 I will
[22:40] <wxl> is that not a matter of a git pull?
[22:42]  * wxl pokes tsimonq2 
[22:45]  * wxl gathers the heavy artillery
 well if Simon's lugito is not working right that's a different issue heh
 Phab from outside the infra will hit the valid Let's Encrypt normally AIUI
 if not then Simon needs to add this root cert we have for internal to Lugito
 or move it to LXD already
 ears perk up
 Someone say infra running on LXD?
[23:48] <wxl> all of ours does except for lugito apparently :/
[23:51] <wxl> Dear Mutsuko,
[23:51] <wxl> ugh