[05:16] good morning [05:54] salut didrocks ! [05:54] salut pieq ! [06:10] didrocks, is it boiling hot in France now? [06:13] pieq: yeah, it is… It's only the start, I couldn't get the accomodation to go below 25.2°C this morning. It was only 26.2°C inside yesterday (35+ outside. Gonna be ~40°C for multiple days) [06:14] last warm wave, we went to 30°C inside (and 28 in the morning). Hoping we can avoid it this time… [06:16] ouch [06:16] and you don't have AC or anything? [06:18] nope… Just a big fan this year :) [06:19] which will be an improvement, but I try to not use it to early to get used to the warm weather first as much as possible and enjoy the fan more afterwards [06:23] haha [06:23] good morning desktoppers! [06:23] that's probably a clever technique! [06:23] salut oSoMoN [06:23] salut pieq [06:24] salut oSoMoN ! [06:24] salut didrocks [06:38] Morning o/ [06:41] hey Wimpress [06:43] hi all [06:44] didrocks, what's the procedure to sru ubuntu-report? Is there a git branch to update? [06:44] hey Wimpress, salut jibel [06:47] jibel: salut ! No, there is no branch, not enough updates to justify it, I usually apt source + backport with the tests [06:47] Morning didrocks, pieq, oSoMoN, jibel [06:48] good afternon duflu [06:53] hey duflu [07:03] Morning tjaalton... Do you know the status of Quadro P1000 support? I suspect its usability has changed and I don't know how to update bug 1822026, or now bug 1834047 [07:03] bug 1822026 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "[Nvidia Quadro P1000] Live USB freezes or cannot complete install when nouveau driver is loaded (crashing in gp100/gf100 code)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822026 [07:03] bug 1834047 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-418 (Ubuntu) "External monitor not recognised [Quadro P1000 Mobile]" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834047 [07:11] duflu: needs a more gentle hammer to disable nouveau only on those that are known broken, but the second bug is about hybrid support and I think it should be run in dgpu mode [07:13] though xserver master has support for glx vendor selection and it's proposed for 1.20 too, so once nvidia driver supports it I hope it's possible to mix intel and nvidia [07:16] hey there, good morning desktopers! === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [07:20] Morning seb128 [07:22] salut seb128 [07:22] tjaalton, I am confused but glad you understand them. I'm confused because machines with P1000 have gone from unbootable to half working while no bugs were closed [07:22] hey duflu didrocks, how are you? [07:22] seb128, going OK. How is your Tuesday? [07:22] * duflu checks it's really Tuesday [07:23] good, thx, yourself? [07:23] right, it is, but it's only starting! [07:23] I'm fine, didn't sleep so well because of the heat though [07:23] duflu: oh, right.. they're both hybrid. yeah beats me :P [07:23] maybe the firmware got fixed [07:23] That's a good point [07:24] upstream said it was broken for those [07:25] ups [07:29] salut seb128 [07:30] morning! [07:30] Hi Trevinho [07:31] lut oSoMoN, bon w.e ? [07:32] Trevinho, hey, woot, on proper european time? ;) [07:33] Not gone to bed yet? :) [07:35] ahah no, no... doing the good guy ;-) [07:42] seb128, très bon, et toi? [07:42] good morning Trevinho [07:43] oSoMoN, nickel, on était en France, y a fait beau et on a bien mangé :-) [07:44] :) [07:47] jamesh, hey, weekly reminder ... :) [07:54] didrocks, bug #1834095 might be for you, it claims to be a regression from your recent grub upload [07:54] bug 1834095 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "update-grub fails on zfs with root and boot datasets" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834095 [07:54] it lacks details though :-/ [07:55] seb128: ah, yeah, can potentially be a regression. Let me ask for more details [07:55] I did put a short "please add log" comment [07:56] but you probably know better what specifics to ask for [07:56] thx [07:57] oSoMoN: hi! [07:58] seb128: done, let's see how esoteric is his system. (and add a testcase for it) [07:58] didrocks, thx! [07:58] brb, going back to my desk now [08:01] morning [08:03] boop [08:06] hey marcustomlinson, Laney [08:12] Morning marcustomlinson and Laney [08:13] good morning marcustomlinson, Laney [08:15] hey didrocks duflu oSoMoN [08:21] morning from humid wet London [08:21] Morning willcooke [08:22] hey willcooke [08:38] hi willcooke seb128 [08:38] willcooke: office nice and busy? [08:39] Laney: It really is. [08:39] * Laney 's hermit instinct kicks in [08:40] hey willcooke Laney Wimpress [08:49] Morning seb128 [08:58] Laney, yeah, very busy today. There's a big sprint (hi mvo) and a big recruitment event going on. 'fousands of people [08:59] nice [09:21] That might be the first time IRC has ever sounded cockney, AFAIK [09:58] * GunnarHj is humbled. Three +1s. Thanks for showing trust in me! [09:58] 👏👏👏👏👏 [09:58] well done GunnarHj! [10:00] now go forth and sponsor your own SRU ;-) [10:02] Laney: Yeah, that was the primary purpose of applying. :) But is the packageset side of it fixed yet? [10:03] gnome-settings-daemon is in there [10:05] Laney: Yes, but my name isn't listed at the packageset document yet. Or is that of no significance? [10:06] that's generated by a script on a timer [10:06] Laney: So in other words I can already upload g-s-d? [10:06] do $ bzr branch lp:ubuntu-archive-tools and then run `edit-acl -S eoan -p gunnarhj query' [10:07] for the live view [10:13] Laney: Which package provides the edit-acl command? [10:14] GunnarHj: None, it's in that bzr repository I referred to [10:21] Laney: Missed the './' part. Yep, confirmed that ubuntu-desktop is included in the response, also for bionic. So I'll fix that g-s-d MP later. I also saw your message about adding g-c-c and gnome-shell. Thanks for the guidance! [10:28] GunnarHj: Ah. No problem. [10:29] Don't forget that now you need to create and push the (signed) tag for the git repository when uploading. [10:29] * Laney uses `gbp buildpackage --git-tag-only` to do that [10:30] thanks GunnarHj, nice work [10:35] Thanks willcooke! [10:42] Laney: That was new to me. So far when testing in PPAs i simply used debuild(). There will be some stuff to read up on apparently. [11:08] oSoMoN: hey, looks like https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-beta.disco/revision/1289 might be similar to the same issue with attributes we had in mozjs (see https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gjs/issues/217)... [11:08] GNOME issue 217 in gjs "Implement the "taking out the garbage" scheme and remove the Big Hammer" [5. Performance, Doing, Opened] [11:09] I hacked a patch for those in gcc during the weekend, it might cover both cases [11:14] Trevinho, not sure, that workaround in skcms addresses an ICE (https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=90756), that doesn't seem to be the case in gjs, is it? [11:14] gcc.gnu.org bug 90756 in rtl-optimization "g++ ICE in convert_move, at expr.c:218 on i686 and s390x" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [11:14] oSoMoN: I mean, isn't the same issue, but it's the same gcc bug [11:14] ah, well not sure then [11:14] looking at the details... mhmh [11:39] GunnarHj, congrats and welcome onboard the desktop uploaders set :-) [12:33] Something broke goa google accounts in eoan a few weeks or so ago [12:33] All I get is Jun 25 14:32:42 jak-t480s gnome-calendar[13684]: source_credentials_required_cb: Failed to authenticate 'julian.klode@gmail.com': Failed to obtain an access token for “julian.klode@gmail.com”: Timeout was reached [12:34] so, backups with dejadup fail, emails fail, calendar fails, and so on [12:39] juliank, can you report it upstream on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-online-accounts/issues ? they might have some more clue about how to debug. [12:41] juliank, I don't think it's goa being broken in eoan, but maybe your token expired or something and goa doesn't handle that might. It might work again if you disable/enable it back (but please don't do that unless you really need it or we might not be able to get debug info anymore) [12:41] seb128: Right, I have 2 broken accounts, so I can play with one and keep one broken I'd guess [12:41] right [12:42] juliank, https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeOnlineAccounts/Debugging might be useful to get debug details [12:44] ugh [12:44] seb128: So I restarted the goa daemon in the terminal to debug it and now it works [12:45] :( [12:45] juliank, try to see if on next boot you get the issue agan [12:45] again [12:45] maybe it starts before internet is working and doesn't like that or something [12:46] if you can reproduce on boot maybe hack the env to have the debug info in the journal [12:46] Previous daemon has been running for 22 days apparently, probably longer than the user sessions and got messed up [12:46] urg :/ [12:46] oh well, if it happens again let us know :) [12:48] I'll reboot and see what it says after that [12:48] let us know [12:48] * seb128 goes offline for 10min or so [12:48] it's over 30°C here can't work, I'm going to relocate to a place with A/C [13:06] k, that's better! [13:30] ok, it's meeting time! [13:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 [13:31] Meeting started Tue Jun 25 13:31:02 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: [13:31] o/ [13:31] Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [13:31] hey Trevinho, good to see you around for this one :) [13:31] \o [13:31] always I am, just lost in code [13:32] or in tz :) [13:32] hey [13:32] o/ [13:32] o/ [13:32] k, let's get started [13:32] #topic rls-bb-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: rls-bb-bugs [13:32] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:33] desktop free [13:33] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:33] the usual japanese era one [13:34] and bug #1833555 [13:34] bug 1833555 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu Bionic) "Add OEM->Family " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833555 [13:34] didrocks, jibel, can one of your take the bionic line? [13:34] jibel is preparing the backport AFAIK [13:34] so, should be done by next week [13:34] (at least, in UNAPPROVED) [13:34] jibel, you should know better than bypassing the process and nominated without assignee! [13:34] I'll review & sponsor, as the first patch [13:35] didrocks, k, thx [13:35] that was it for bionic [13:35] #topic rls-cc-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: rls-cc-bugs [13:35] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:35] desktop free [13:35] japenese era one [13:36] #topic rls-dd-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: rls-dd-bugs [13:36] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:36] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:36] same story [13:36] #topic rls-ee-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: rls-ee-bugs [13:37] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:37] 2 ftbfs bugs that got assigned but I forgot to untag [13:37] I think they make sense to nominate so just going to do the untagging [13:37] tkamppeter, please have a look to bug #1833231 [13:38] bug 1833231 in cups (Ubuntu) "cups ftbfs in eoan (amd64 only)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833231 [13:38] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:38] nothing unassigned [13:38] OK, will do. [13:38] thanks [13:38] k so it was a pretty easy bugs round [13:38] #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [13:38] Laney, your turn :) [13:39] thx [13:39] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages [13:39] so the appstream one is waiting for the security team [13:40] webkit/sphinx needs someone to be assigned, I made a card for that https://trello.com/c/IscBSNnl/181-webkit2gtk-2242-1-to-2242-2 [13:40] maybe one of the not usual people could take this [13:40] that's it [13:40] thx for handling that kopano thing oSoMoN [13:40] np [13:41] changing approach to those assignement [13:41] if anyone want to volunteer please add yourself to the card with a comment [13:41] if it's still unassigned by tomorrow we pick someone in the manager's meeting [13:42] managers' [13:42] thx Laney [13:42] np [13:43] (also n-m autopkgtest test got a fix from Till which was uploaded, hopefully that works, built on armhf just finished so we should know in a bit) [13:43] k, next [13:43] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-25 | Current topic: AOB [13:43] so first, sorry but we didn't get to talk abour rls bugs summary [13:44] and Will is away *again* for that meeting [13:44] and he didn't even send the email this week :-/ [13:44] I'm going to follow up via email about that [13:44] [13:44] second one from me [13:44] tkamppeter, can you give us a status update on the bionic/n-m SRU? that seem to have got stalled again? [13:45] seb128, yes, I have prioritized this autopkg test. [13:45] k, makes sense [13:45] which means now you are back to the SRU? [13:46] Now I can swittch over to this one. It looks like that somehow 1.10.14 does not respect the prioritizing of DNS servers depending on domain. [13:46] But as current (Eoan) version works (at least on Eoan) there should be somewhere a fix upstream. [13:47] k, that's a good start [13:47] let us know when you figure out more [13:47] k [13:47] OK. [13:47] thx [13:47] that was it for my topic [13:47] anyone else? [13:48] pls push n-m to the git repository [13:48] I did? [13:48] I even pushed the tag! [13:48] or did that fail [13:48] where? [13:49] https://git.launchpad.net/network-manager/tag/?h=eoan&id=ubuntu/1.18.0-1ubuntu5 [13:49] it's not there that's for sure https://code.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager/+git/ubuntu/+ref/eoan [13:49] $ git push [13:49] Everything up-to-date [13:49] git log has the commit [13:49] wtf git [13:50] what is the commit id? [13:50] 63a83117aca5a9a97806d0648c2c23a5da6f6280 [13:50] you can end the meeting while we discuss this [13:50] I guess this debugging can be outside the meeting :) [13:50] bah [13:50] it pushed to disco [13:50] shrug [13:50] sorry, I somewhat screwed [13:51] I'm going to fix it after the meeting [13:51] me and git are still not best buddies :p [13:51] ok [13:51] the tag has a weird name too [13:51] other topics? ;) [13:51] I just wanted to look at the fix but this is enough [13:51] https://git.launchpad.net/network-manager/log/ [13:52] has the right commit/history on the wrong branc [13:52] anyway [13:52] other topics? [13:53] seems not [13:53] let's wrap then thanks! [13:53] thx [13:53] thx! [13:53] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle [13:53] Meeting ended Tue Jun 25 13:53:34 2019 UTC. [13:53] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-06-25-13.31.moin.txt [13:53] thanks [13:53] probably https://code.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager/+git/ubuntu/+edit needs the branch to be updated to fix that website [13:53] dunno why we do this weird branch naming there [13:57] Laney, Debian is the same from what I can tell, https://salsa.debian.org/utopia-team/network-manager/tree/master [13:58] also the upstream branch is not a by-commit one like for GNOME [13:58] https://salsa.debian.org/utopia-team/network-manager/commits/upstream [13:58] same as what? [13:58] it's one commit by import [13:58] that's not what I mean [13:58] we have a branch called 'eoan' [13:58] you mean not having a master? [13:58] yes [13:58] and then that link I gave has to be updated every time the development name changes [13:58] easy to fix, Iet push disco to master [13:58] and call it fixed [13:59] I will do that [13:59] k, if you consider yourself a maintainer of network-manager then you have the authority to make that kind of change [13:59] I don't, so that's why I didn't go ahead and do it [13:59] we are not having one [13:59] thought it was Till [14:00] so I'm going to pretend it's me :p [14:00] he's still onboarding [14:00] disco will need fixing too [14:00] so meanwhile I'm acting lead maintainer :) [14:00] push the corresponding tag to that branch [14:00] yeah, I'm uncommiting there [14:00] and delete the eoan one [14:00] right [14:00] and fix the branch reference in that link I gave [14:00] thx for input [14:00] np [14:02] (if Vcs-* refers to eoan that'll need fixing too) [14:12] Laney, oh, and what did you mean by "the tag has a weird name too" [14:12] ubuntu/ is standard no? [14:14] laney@disco (eoan|✔)> git tag --contains 63a83117aca5a9a97806d0648c2c23a5da6f6280 ~/dev/canonical/packaging/desktop/network-manager [14:14] ubuntu/1.18.0-1ubuntu5_1561470373 [14:15] but "git tag" lists ubuntu/1.18.0-1ubuntu5 [14:15] do you understand what's the problem/what was done wrong? [14:16] $ git tag --contains 63a83117aca5a9a97806d0648c2c23a5da6f6280 [14:16] ubuntu/1.18.0-1ubuntu5 [14:16] hum [14:16] git mystery? [14:17] laney@disco (eoan|✚1)> git fetch origin --prune --tags ~/dev/canonical/packaging/desktop/network-manager [14:17] From git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/network-manager [14:17] * [new tag] ubuntu/1.18.0-1ubuntu5 -> ubuntu/1.18.0-1ubuntu5 [14:17] seems good now [14:19] that's good :) [14:54] Laney, I did a bit of preliminary investigation on https://trello.com/c/IscBSNnl/181-webkit2gtk-2242-1-to-2242-2 [14:54] the regression was triggered by the python 3.7.3 -> 3.7.4RC1 update [14:55] an option would be to update sphinx to 2.0 (tests pass there), but not sure what the consequences of that are [14:57] oSoMoN: ♥ [14:57] mitya57 is a sphinxer who might have some advice [15:04] sphinter? [15:12] 😓 [15:12] oSoMoN: could you file a LP issue when you know what's causing that? [15:12] I'd like to point upstream to it [15:14] doko, against python3.7 / sphinx ? [15:15] I thought python3.7 ... [16:02] oSoMoN: I couldn't resist bisecting --- 02fea029bfc5bfd64e43de9e810aef2dd3c8cb2c [16:02] so I bet if you try codecs.open() on that broken file it's different with the new py3.7 and the old one [16:03] https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx/commit/02fea029bfc5bfd64e43de9e810aef2dd3c8cb2c === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk [16:25] n-m amd64 autopkgtest is back to green, well done cyphermox and tkamppeter :-) [16:26] hum, i386 failed though :/ [16:26] OK, good to know. [16:26] unsure if it's transient or not, would be good to have a look [16:27] seb128, are we not dropping support for i386? Or does Steam, Wine, ... use NM? [16:52] tkamppeter: It's a sign that the test is flaky, since it used to pass before ... I just ran it 4 times on amd64 and it failed 3 of those (not the same failure as in the i386 log though). [17:18] * oSoMoN praises Laney's bisect-fu [17:18] applying that commit on top of the version of sphinx in the archive makes the tests pass [17:20] Laney, shall I upload a new sphinx with that patch? [17:29] Laney: so; typically anything that turns out to be shared between ubuntu-desktop and some other flavour land in desktop-core (such that you need to be core-dev to upload); I can apply exceptions as directed by the Desktop team [17:29] (I will apply the exceptions for gnome-control-center and gnome-shell) [17:46] cyphermox: right, that's what I thought, thanks [17:46] oSoMoN: if the autopkgtests work with it (I didn't check that) [17:46] but it might be a codecs.open bug with python3.7 that doko wants to hear about too [17:47] yeah, I'll file a bug against python3.7 too [17:47] sphinx handily comes with a broken file [17:47] I'll probably do all of that later tonight though, time for dinner break [17:48] and it seems like exceptions aren't as straightforward as I thought, because just adding to the file doesn't work :P [17:50] yeah you have to regenerate the sets [17:51] well, no, that's what I mean [17:51] just that isn't sufficient, I think the script might be looking at exceptions too early or something [17:52] ah, nevermind [17:52] I got confused looking at the files, all is well [17:52] * cyphermox applies the changes [18:21] doko, Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.7/+bug/1834236 [18:21] Ubuntu bug 1834236 in python3.7 (Ubuntu) "sphinx autopkgtest failures with Python 3.7.4 RC1" [Undecided,New] [18:24] meh, the package doesn't build because of errors when running the tests at build time [18:35] * Laney added a minimal example (python only) to the bug [18:38] Looks like python2's open() doesn't support the encoding= kwarg [21:02] Laney, oSoMoN, indeed, the patch cannot be applied to our sphinx as-is, as we still have to support Python 2 (upstream moved to Python 3 only in sphinx 2.x). [21:03] mitya57, ack, do you reckon the test failure is a regression in python 3.7.4 ? [21:03] So the best way is to fix this in Python, but if for some reason it's unfixable there, I can try something else (maybe io.open will work?) [21:04] Yes, it's probably a regression, let me look at Python changes [21:11] tkamppeter, do you plan to look at that n-m autopkgtest flakyness? [21:19] time to get some rest, good night everyone [21:25] https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/894263ba80af4b7733c2df95b527e96953922656 may fix that bug [21:30] * mitya57 commented on the bug and also goes to bed