| didrocks | good morning | 05:22 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 06:05 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 06:07 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers! | 06:17 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 06:18 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 06:18 |
| oSoMoN | hey didrocks, duflu | 06:23 |
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| seb128 | goooood morning desktopers | 07:18 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:18 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you today? | 07:18 |
| duflu | seb128, going well now. I just figured out how to fix https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/575 so that's done sooner than expected. You? | 07:19 |
| gitbot | GNOME issue (Merge request) 575 in mutter "Honour `CLUTTER_ACTOR_NO_LAYOUT` more efficiently" [5. Performance, Opened] | 07:20 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thx :) | 07:20 |
| duflu | (not counting the failing CI but that doesn't seem to be my fault) | 07:20 |
| oSoMoN | goooood morning seb128 ! | 07:20 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:21 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, didrocks, en forme ? | 07:22 |
| lis | good morning everyone :) | 07:22 |
| seb128 | guten tag lis! | 07:22 |
| oSoMoN | good morning lis | 07:22 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, plutôt, oui | 07:22 |
| seb128 | cool :) | 07:23 |
| duflu | Morning lis | 07:23 |
| lis | seb128, oSoMoN, duflu: hi :) | 07:23 |
| seb128 | duflu, I think Owen did comment/follow up recently on some regression/problems created by things that got merged, what was the outcome of that? (I noticed because George thanked him for commenting on #gnome-hackers) | 07:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: chaudement, mais ça va | 07:24 |
| seb128 | no revert at the end? | 07:24 |
| didrocks | hey lis | 07:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, good luck, temperature dropped here, I even found a bit too cold this morning but I'm not going to complain about that :p | 07:25 |
| duflu | seb128, I'm not aware of anything like that. Should I be? | 07:25 |
| seb128 | duflu, don't worry about it, if you didn't hear anything then it's probably fine :) | 07:27 |
| seb128 | duflu, just for the record that was what Owen wrote | 07:28 |
| seb128 | <owen>feaneron: I don't think we need to rush to revert anything - that doesn't seem like a constructive step - but if the changes in 520 are helping, they are helping for a different reason than the commit message and MR discussion indicate - and probably indicate that something else is going wrong with the master clock cycle | 07:28 |
| seb128 | duflu, so I'm assuming that George found a problem due to !520 and was pondering reverting | 07:28 |
| duflu | I think they're probably wrong. I was working on that change for a year or so. But it doesn't matter if it wasn't reverted | 07:28 |
| seb128 | right | 07:29 |
| duflu | And it is documented in immense detail | 07:29 |
| seb128 | ah, indeed Owen commented on !520 | 07:29 |
| seb128 | 'OK, I see you changed that from !281 (merged) - so that might explain why this was subsequently necessary.' | 07:29 |
| duflu | Oh I don't track closed things | 07:29 |
| seb128 | so all good | 07:29 |
| marcustomlinson | good morning didrocks duflu oSoMoN seb128 lis | 07:35 |
| seb128 | hey marcustomlinson, how are you today? | 07:35 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:35 |
| oSoMoN | hey marcustomlinson | 07:36 |
| duflu | hi marcustomlinson | 07:36 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: good thanks :) yourself? Overheating today again? | 07:36 |
| seb128 | marcustomlinson, no, that went away in the night, today is 23°C :) | 07:36 |
| duflu | seb128, yes actually multiple MRs depend on 520 so good it wasn't reverted | 07:36 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: we've got some outrageous heat coming our way to Scotland this week. A high of 23 even! | 07:37 |
| seb128 | haha | 07:37 |
| seb128 | duflu, right | 07:37 |
| seb128 | duflu, sorry to have distracted you with the question | 07:38 |
| duflu | seb128, also I mentioned #334 in the description which would have avoided confusion if anyone followed that link and found !281 | 07:38 |
| duflu | Though it's complicated and I understand there will be some confusion | 07:39 |
| duflu | It took me most of a year to design a solution I was happy with and to get it approved | 07:39 |
| duflu | All previous attempts ended up being huge and rewriting many things | 07:39 |
| Laney | hi ho | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:02 |
| duflu | Hi Laney and willcooke | 08:03 |
| willcooke | afternoon duflu, morning others | 08:03 |
| duflu | To be fair there's at least a billion people experiencing afternoon in this time zone | 08:04 |
| willcooke | :DD | 08:04 |
| willcooke | They don't greet me though, so sod em | 08:04 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:05 |
| duflu | Maybe they should. AFAIK we have more offices in the time zone than any other | 08:05 |
| willcooke | hehe | 08:05 |
| willcooke | hi didrocks! | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney | 08:10 |
| Laney | hi didrocks duflu seb128 willcooke, how's it going? | 08:14 |
| seb128 | Laney, good! you? | 08:15 |
| willcooke | hi seb128 Laney. Not too bad. Sat in front of Heidi Allen on the train home | 08:15 |
| Laney | yeah not bad | 08:15 |
| Laney | oh yeah | 08:15 |
| Laney | is she changing the UK? | 08:15 |
| willcooke | She was sending an email, so... perhaps | 08:15 |
| Laney | out of date joke, IIRC she has since left that group /o\ | 08:15 |
| willcooke | It was probably about changing the UK | 08:15 |
| willcooke | ha | 08:15 |
| didrocks | Laney: warm warm warm | 08:16 |
| Laney | man | 08:16 |
| Laney | it's cold horrible raining and grey here | 08:16 |
| willcooke | didrocks, is it going to me a bad one again? It's cooled down here | 08:16 |
| Laney | dunno what you people are talking about | 08:16 |
| willcooke | 15 degrees here :( | 08:16 |
| * Laney sends a bit of it over | 08:16 | |
| willcooke | :) | 08:16 |
| didrocks | willcooke: yeah, until Monday, it doesn't go under 24°c at night and up to 39°C | 08:16 |
| willcooke | ouch | 08:17 |
| willcooke | tired grumpy kids | 08:17 |
| didrocks | and no wind… | 08:17 |
| didrocks | yeah, experienced that yeserday evening :/ | 08:17 |
| didrocks | weather is now forecasting: 38 (today), 38 (tomorrow), 37, 37, 37, 33 (Monday) | 08:18 |
| willcooke | woah | 08:20 |
| Trevinho | morning! | 08:21 |
| didrocks | hey Trevinho | 08:21 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: hi Didier | 08:22 |
| Laney | buongiorno Marco | 08:22 |
| marcustomlinson | morning Laney willcooke Trevinho | 08:23 |
| willcooke | hi marcustomlinson, how goes? | 08:23 |
| willcooke | morning Trevinho | 08:23 |
| marcustomlinson | willcooke: well thanks, yourself? | 08:23 |
| willcooke | nay bad | 08:23 |
| marcustomlinson | aye | 08:23 |
| duflu | Hi Trevinho | 08:26 |
| * Laney gives marcustomlinson the nod | 08:26 | |
| Laney | in centuries to come academics will study the greeting patterns used in #ubuntu-desktop and come to some startling conclusions | 08:27 |
| willcooke | XD | 08:28 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 08:32 |
| oSoMoN | :) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | bonjourno Trevinho | 08:33 |
| seb128 | our board look more geeky today | 08:34 |
| seb128 | thanks Laney :) | 08:34 |
| Laney | oh I forgot that changes it for everyone sry | 08:34 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:34 |
| Laney | didn't like that colour we were using | 08:34 |
| Laney | put it back if you want tho | 08:34 |
| seb128 | no, it's fine like that | 08:34 |
| marcustomlinson | I thought it looked cool | 08:34 |
| * marcustomlinson tries to figure out how to change ours... | 08:35 | |
| Laney | I searched for 'linux' in the images search | 08:35 |
| Laney | menu -> second option | 08:35 |
| marcustomlinson | ah I got to the first option and got tired | 08:35 |
| willcooke | :) | 08:36 |
| Trevinho | willcooke, Laney, marcustomlinson, seb128: hey hey, hey, hey! | 08:36 |
| marcustomlinson | But seriously though, I don't think I have permissions to do that | 08:36 |
| Trevinho | += duflu | 08:36 |
| marcustomlinson | oh! that sneaky little backward arrow top left | 08:38 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey, are you looking at fixing the n-m autopkgtest flakyness issue? | 08:40 |
| Laney | weird, I just started writing that | 08:40 |
| Laney | (was closing tabs from yesterday and some of them were NM logs) | 08:40 |
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| GunnarHj | Hey Laney, Yesterday I accidentally got involved in sane-backends (bug #1728012) and would have expected that package to be included in the ubuntu-desktop set. But it isn't, if I understand it correctly - only desktop-core. Is that as it should be? | 09:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1728012 in sane-backends (Ubuntu Bionic) "Many 3rd party scanner drivers are broken by a sane change" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1728012 | 09:38 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: Packages shared with Kubuntu end up there. So if that's the case, then yes. | 09:43 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: I see. When seeing the structure, I can think it would be a good idea to add ubuntu-desktop as an uploader of desktop-core (ubuntu-desktop is an uploader of desktop-extra). | 09:47 |
| Laney | It is on purpose historically. If you wanted to, you could discuss the situation with the DMB - I'm sure parts of it are less relevant now. | 09:48 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Not sure I'm in a position to hold that discussion, since I'm one of the few ones who are affected in practice. But of course I could ask a question. | 09:50 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: They might want to work out a way of allowing people to upload to desktop-core specifically. There's currently no procedure for that; everyone's just gone for core-dev instead. | 10:06 |
| Laney | Or maybe the concept is obsolete and ubuntu-desktop can have those packages now | 10:07 |
| * Laney isn't sure | 10:07 | |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Laney, I am looking now into this n-m autopkg problem. | 10:26 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Laney: What I have observed when debugging the script where only API discrepancies, no timing/timeout issues. I have fixed all these API problems and after that all tests passed for me and after isolated testing I have also run the complete autopkgtest and it also passed, making me putting up the branch with the fix. | 10:28 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, Laney, now I could only see the logs of a failure here: | 10:28 |
| tkamppeter | https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-eoan/eoan/i386/n/network-manager/20190625_150000_e4d7f@/log.gz | 10:28 |
| tkamppeter | It is a timeout in one of the tests. | 10:29 |
| tkamppeter | Should we perhaps make all the timeouts longer to reduce probability of failures? | 10:29 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: this is the kind of failure I was seeing https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DWwWvhrty7/ | 10:36 |
| Laney | that might be missing synchronisation somewhere perhaps? | 10:42 |
| Laney | and the i386 one --- is there any indication that the virtual AP will eventually appear? | 10:42 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Sent a mail to DMB (and included you). | 10:52 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, for me it looks like that due to the fact that it works at least a part of the times(you can make it pass by triggering a repetition), that if it fails it not always fails at the same points, and that the emulated network (AP, router) is always the same it is most probably a timing issue and not a still missing API adaptation or so. So I would try at first by extending timeouts and/or adding delay/repetition loops. | 11:05 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: Thanks | 11:07 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: OK then. It's better if you can positively wait for the condition that you need (AP appearing, for example) rather than simply retrying, if that's possible. (Not sure if it is) | 11:08 |
| Laney | also don't forget to look at that pastebin I gave | 11:09 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, my feeling for that one is that the router/AP got initiated and after that the presence of IPs checked, but too early. My suggestion here is to repeat the check of the presence of the IPs for up to ~10 times with a short delay. | 11:15 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: Up to you. I'm just saying that if there's a signal 'the AP just appeared' then using that to schedule the next part of the test would be more robust than doing it with timers | 11:23 |
| Laney | But I don't know this code as well as you do at this point, so ... :) | 11:23 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, there is something like 'the AP just appeared', but it seems not to be reliable as sometimes the next steps observes the presence of two IPs, sometimes not. | 11:27 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, does it often happen that the autopkgtest fails at the point which you have pasted or does it fail on different random points? | 11:44 |
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| Laney | tkamppeter: Think I only saw that one | 11:57 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: More on the packageset topic: I noticed that your request yesterday to add g-c-c to ubuntu-desktop had been handled, so I happily uploaded g-c-c to disco, but it was rejected. I had missed that the adjustment had not been made to the ubuntu-desktop set for disco. | 12:05 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Can you help? | 12:05 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: No, you need someone on the DMB to do that | 12:05 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok. Will do. | 12:05 |
| Trevinho | Laney: when you've some time could you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter/+merge/369334 ? | 12:08 |
| Laney | OK, this afternoon probably | 12:14 |
| Trevinho | Laney: cool thanks, I've to prepare the branches for eoan too, you can then backport those to disco I expect, right? | 12:16 |
| Trevinho | well eoan + debian.. Now that I'm done with fixing the regression crashes hoepefully | 12:19 |
| Laney | Trevinho: we need .2 for disco too no? is that somewhere already? i forgot | 12:21 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yes | 12:21 |
| Trevinho | we were blocked by regressions, so... | 12:22 |
| Laney | ok, this can be done at the same time probably | 12:23 |
| Trevinho | probably better .2+git stuff, but not sure if I'm fancy enough to do a snapshot instead of cherry-picking :P | 12:23 |
| Trevinho | although now with meson is better | 12:24 |
| Laney | patches is fine, put them in a Gbp-Pq: topic upstream or something to indicate | 12:25 |
| lis | Laney: fwiw, i rebuilt our tests container with the glib from disco-proposed and it seems to fix the issues we were seeing | 12:46 |
| lis | there are new issues now, of course 🤣 | 12:47 |
| lis | but not (obviously) glib-related | 12:47 |
| doko | Trevinho: would it be possible to have the fix for 1793496 in bionic as well? | 13:07 |
| seb128 | doko, don't ask bionic targets like that please, either rls-bb-incoming tag or find an assignee | 13:15 |
| Laney | lis: neat (hopefully) | 13:37 |
| seb128 | is there a way to dump the content of a dconf db file? | 13:37 |
| lis | seb128: yes! | 13:37 |
| lis | seb128: basically, create a dconf profile that specifies the path to that file, and 'dconf dump' it | 13:38 |
| lis | $ echo file-db:/path/to/file > my-profile | 13:40 |
| lis | $ DCONF_PROFILE=`pwd/my-profile dconf dump / | 13:40 |
| lis | erm. `pwd` obviously. sorry. | 13:40 |
| seb128 | lis, good tip, thx! | 13:42 |
| Trevinho | doko: I can try although the patch while is provided by eoan and disco isn't upstream yet... so I might try to make you a ppa and maybe you can test if that branch fixes it as I expect | 14:05 |
| doko | Trevinho: yes, I can do that. and added the task and the tag | 14:06 |
| Trevinho | the problem is that the patch isn't *that* small, so... well some prudence firs :) | 14:07 |
| Trevinho | first* | 14:07 |
| Trevinho | doko: please try mutter at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3750/+packages once built | 14:44 |
| Trevinho | doko: wouldn't be bad if you could also bisect the added patches :), i.e. which one of the latest monitor-manager-* patches added is the one helping you | 14:44 |
| Trevinho | you sould be able to check it with ver few steps | 14:44 |
| Trevinho | any French here could improve the test case for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1832875 please? | 15:25 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1832875 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "On-screen keyboard lacks several French layouts" [High,In progress] | 15:25 |
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| Laney | peace out homies 👋 | 17:03 |
| marcustomlinson | ✌️ | 17:08 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:38 |
| Trevinho | tjaalton, Laney: how is that debian experimental's libgles2-mesa-dev doesn't include glesv2.pc anymore? :o | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | I suppose is for https://salsa.debian.org/xorg-team/lib/mesa/commit/d2d7e8c257024dadbdd2990683fe53aa19026ac6 | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | so... how to detect this now? | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | as mutter needs it | 17:53 |
| Trevinho | doesn't seem to be a problem in eoan (yet?) | 17:53 |
| tjaalton | Trevinho: libglvnd upstream will provide it soon | 18:32 |
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