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cyphermoxhangout not cooperating here.15:01
cyphermoxit's just megaslow15:02
julianko/o/o/15:02
rbalintwe can still start the meeting here15:03
sil2100#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jun 27 15:03:54 2019 UTC.  The chair is sil2100. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
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sil2100#topic Lightning rounds15:04
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sil2100echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)15:04
sil2100juliank infinity tdaitx vorlon sil2100 mwhudson bdmurray cyphermox doko xnox rbalint waveform15:04
* juliank wins15:04
juliank * finished the apt 1.9.0 transition15:04
juliank  * released python-apt 1.9.0; broke image building :/15:04
juliank  * fixed livecd-rootfs and apt-xapian-index for new python-apt, hopefully fixing image building :)15:04
juliank  * fixed dependency solving in aptdaemon to behave more normally (and work with apt 1.9)15:04
juliank * verified dkms SRU LP: #1827697 across releases (lots of VM to install, gotta simplify that)15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1827697 in dkms (Ubuntu Eoan) "Enroll key whiptail prompt blocks kernel header package upgrades" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182769715:04
juliank * TIL (or TWL):15:04
juliank  * How to start qemu in secureboot, although a bit hackish, not proper15:04
juliank  * That cosmic does not render in qemu except with qxl vga device; and then it's still missing cursor!15:04
juliank * Things to figure out:15:04
juliank  * Backporting LP: #1744318 - https for changelogs.u.c to xenial; and what regressions we could get15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1744318 in update-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "changelogs.ubuntu.com should be using HTTPS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174431815:04
juliank(done)15:05
tdaitx* verified fixes for tomcat8, netbeans, and scilab (LP: #1825604, LP: #1828427, LP: #1825037, LP: #1827090)15:05
tdaitx* jck + openjdk-ri packaging (ie. squaring a circle)15:05
tdaitx  - going through documentation15:05
tdaitx  - trying to snap it somehow15:05
tdaitx(done)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825604 in netbeans (Ubuntu Disco) "[SRU] Netbeans 10 should depend on java11-sdk" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182560415:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1828427 in netbeans (Debian) "[SRU] Netbeans fails to create a java project with NoSuchMethodError" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182842715:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825037 in scilab (Ubuntu) "[SRU] scilab-cli and scilab-adv-cli does not start on bionic, cosmic, disco and eoan" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182503715:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1827090 in tomcat8 (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] tomcat8-instance-create fails to update control port" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182709015:05
sil2100I guess no vorlon for the meeting this week15:06
sil2100Let me go15:06
sil2100- Out-of-office Thursday-Friday last week15:06
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases15:06
sil2100- Kernel SRUs15:06
sil2100- Switching-off dry-run mode from britney's SRU ADT regression notification15:06
sil2100  * Had to tweak the e-mail logic to make it working15:06
sil2100  * Requesting a bot account for SRU purposes15:06
sil2100- Finishing jenkins jobs for new core18 promotion purposes15:06
sil2100  * Iterating on the merge a bit with a few fixes here and there15:06
sil2100  * Preparing all credentials, sending them over15:06
sil2100- Looking into the snapd issues in powerpc builds, fixed livecd-rootfs, sponsored some cherry-picks for snapd15:06
sil2100- Releasing a new core18 into stable, manually phasing the update as per snapstore request15:06
sil2100- NEW review of an ubuntustudio package15:06
sil2100- Sponsoring + random stuff15:06
sil2100(done)15:06
sil2100bdmurray: I guess it's your turn15:07
bdmurrayuploaded u-r-u fix for deb2snap transition for upgrades from 18.04 (LP: #1833753)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1833753 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade crashed with AttributeError in _replaceDebsWithSnaps(): 'UbuntuDistroInfo' object has no attribute 'version'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183375315:07
bdmurrayresolved issue with DistUpgradeQuirks and deb2snap transition for upgrades from Ubuntu 18.0415:07
bdmurraydropped u-r-u's obsolete kernel removal code in Eoan (LP: #1828100)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1828100 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "KernelRemoval section of DistUpgrade.cfg shouldn't require manual updating" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182810015:07
bdmurrayfixed an issue with the foundations team bug bot and lp users that are 41015:07
bdmurraytested a minimum / partition install (LP: #1833610)15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1833610 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "minimum disk space recommendation is too small" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183361015:07
bdmurrayreported apport bug LP: #183379515:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1833795 in apport (Ubuntu) "unable to report an 18.04 crash from a 19.04 system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183379515:07
bdmurraydropped SystemImageInfo gathering from apport's ubuntu general hook15:07
bdmurrayconverted parts of oops-repository from using pycassa to python-cassandra15:07
bdmurrayremoved SystemImageInfo code from daisy as it is no longer needed there15:07
bdmurray✔ done15:07
bdmurrayreview of rls- tagged bug reports15:07
bdmurraycyphermox:15:08
cyphermoxshort week: off Monday, off tomorrow and next monday.15:08
cyphermoxMIR review15:08
cyphermoxreviewed more rls-*-incoming bugs w/ Brian15:08
cyphermoxgrub2: merge, grub-reboot, EFI stub loading from 'linux' command15:08
cyphermoxnetplan feature spec flags partly approved now (still needs signoffs from Server / Jay)15:08
cyphermoxmore netplan specs to draft / need review15:08
cyphermoxpackageset update / figuring out exceptions for desktop-common/-core15:08
cyphermoxpartner work15:08
cyphermox(done)15:08
bdmurraydoko:15:09
doko- last Thursday bank holiday15:09
doko- Merge the riscv64 zero patches for openjdk 11, and up15:09
doko- test rebuild give backs, fixing GCC 9 issues, filing GCC upstream issues15:09
doko- test rebuild on ppc64el not yet finished ...15:09
doko- OpenJDK sync15:09
doko(done)15:09
bdmurrayxnox: is sprinting15:10
bdmurrayrbalint:15:10
rbalint* partner work15:10
rbalint* shadow:15:10
rbalint  - prepared next upstream release in Salsa15:10
rbalint  - converted to dh from cdbs15:10
rbalint  - preparation of moving login to util-linux in progress15:10
rbalint* unattended-upgrades related reviews15:11
rbalint* prepared srus for LP: #1771858 in cluding tracking down regressions and non-regressions15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1771858 in snapd (Ubuntu) "/snap/bin not in default PATH for units, snapd should ship system-environment-generators to inject /snap/bin into $PATH" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177185815:11
rbalint(done)15:11
waveform* Pi4 launch week! Posted some hardware off to cwayne (indirectly)15:11
waveform* Investigated boot state on pi4: some minor changes (new firmware), some major changes (second stage boot-loader now in EEPROM, no support for netboot and USB yet - forthcoming updates)15:11
waveform* Prepped updates to get eoan images booting on pi4; not yet tested, need updates to flash-kernel (see below)15:11
waveform* Prepped merged classic & core bootscripts for RPi (adding optional splash support)15:11
waveform* Agreed way forward with sil2100: merge updated bootscripts into flash-kernel, SRU bootscript patches (but not version upgrade) to bionic, then PR pi3-gadget to use new bootscripts15:11
waveform* Investigating pyparted & fftw3 FTBFS on armhf issues for doko; replicated fftw3 failure (NEON related) but not pyparted so far15:11
waveform* Still looking into BT on core15:11
waveform(done)15:11
sil2100\o/15:12
sil2100#topic Release incoming bugs15:12
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sil2100#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:12
bdmurraybug 183230915:12
ubottubug 1832309 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "netplan stores wifi-password world-readable" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183230915:12
bdmurraycyphermox: can you confirm that?15:12
cyphermoxyes, that's known15:13
gaughenwaveform, I tried to buy a pi4!15:13
bdmurraycyphermox: seems worth carding then right?15:13
cyphermoxI mean, it's a textfile you need to write to...15:13
cyphermoxyeah, there's a PR for part of that too15:13
bdmurrayokay, so carding15:13
bdmurraybug 183422615:14
ubottubug 1834226 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183422615:14
bdmurraywhile poorly described this seems familiar to me15:16
bdmurrayI think its really about unattended-upgrades not respecting a setting from software-properties-gtk. Does that sound familiar balint?15:17
sil2100rbalint: ^15:17
rbalintbdmurray, it is apt that calls u-u15:18
rbalintjuliank, ^15:18
rbalint:-)15:18
rbalint(via systemd timers)15:18
juliankthat's packagekit I assume15:18
rbalint:-D15:18
rbalinti propose taking the bug :-)15:19
juliankPackageKit has its own timer, and it's not configurable15:19
juliankSimple fix is to remove the never option15:19
gaughenbdmurray, my vote on that netplan card is that we put it on the list to get working on this next iteration15:19
gaughenso on the prioritized lane please15:19
rbalintjuliank, i think it is not really the direction of pleasing users :-)15:19
juliankNo hang on, I think it's actually gnome-settings-daemon issuing the Refresh call to PackageKit15:20
bdmurraygaughen: ack15:20
juliankBut in any case, we can't be sure what the cause is, we need a ps tree15:21
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sil2100We don't have to solve it now, but is this something we'd want to get fixed this cycle?15:21
rbalintsil2100, yes, imo15:22
juliankIt's certainly not urgent as its been that way all the time, but yes15:22
bdmurrayI think finding whatever bug I'm remembering would be good15:22
bdmurrayThat way we have an idea of the number of people who choose "Never"15:22
sil2100Let's maybe card it then?15:23
bdmurrayHow about we leave it on the list until the detective work is done.15:23
rbalintbdmurray, i think the process is taking it then doing the work15:24
bdmurrayWe are also make a lot of assumptions about what the person is talking about, so asking some follow up questions seems good to me too.15:24
sil2100Ok15:24
bdmurraybug 1829805 is also high15:25
ubottubug 1829805 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182980515:25
bdmurrayxnox has asked for some more information though so leaving it seems fine15:26
sil2100Yeah, let's wait for the reporter to provide more info15:26
bdmurrayLets move on to the Undecided ones next15:26
bdmurraybug 179626015:26
ubottubug 1796260 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "UEFI install onto an MBR disk, with a pre-existing os/partition, results in a non-bootable ESP on a logical partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179626015:26
gaughenisn't that one mwhudson is working on15:27
sil2100This sounds familiar15:27
bdmurrayIt looks like there is a card for this15:28
cyphermoxsil2100: because we've discussed this previously15:28
bdmurrayLet's set the importance of it. What should we do about the rls-ee-incoming tag?15:32
bdmurraybug 183375815:33
ubottubug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183375815:33
bdmurrayDoes this only happen w/ schroot?15:34
sil2100sbeattie: ^15:35
bdmurraysil2100 and I'll have a look at it to see what situations are affected.15:37
sil2100I'll try investigating this, seeing what impact it has15:37
bdmurrayOh, whoops we missed bug 183288215:38
ubottubug 1832882 in curl (Ubuntu Disco) "libcurl-gnutls segfaults spotify client" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183288215:38
bdmurraySo while the snap works it might be nice to fix this anyway15:39
bdmurrayIt seems like a pretty straightforward SRU15:39
rbalintbdmurray, isn't it a 3rd party package?15:39
juliankI don't see a patch15:40
bdmurrayrbalint: Yes15:41
rbalintjuliank, there is one in the github issue15:41
rbalintbdmurray, sry maybe it is valid still for curl15:42
juliankrbalint: might not be the same issue15:42
rbalintit is worth trying i think15:43
bdmurrayseb pointed to this https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/curl/news/20190512T204836Z.html15:44
bdmurrayDoes the debian bug have a test case?15:44
bdmurrayWell let's just take it.15:47
sil2100+115:47
rbalint+115:48
juliankmeow!15:48
bdmurrayThat is all the High and Undecided bug reports15:48
gaughenjuliank, is that the new hipper +1?15:48
juliankeither that or -115:49
sil2100Should we move on?15:49
sil2100#topic Team proposed-migration report15:49
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gaughensil2100, no too busy thinking about cats15:49
sil2100hah!15:49
sil2100#link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:49
dokoso, adam tells me that glibc and binutils issues are likely caused by a kernel regression15:50
dokoI'll address the sphinx issue with the python 3.7.4 today or tomorrow15:51
sil2100doko: does the kernel team know about the regressions?15:52
gaughendoko, wonder if the fix for the regression is coming out this week15:52
dokoaccordng to adam, yes15:52
gaughendoko, okay then these should be gone by our next mtg15:52
rbalintpartman-multipath is waiting for comments from xnox15:52
dokothat's it. I'd like to continue with https://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20190614-eoan.html15:53
dokowho is owning whoopsie?15:53
bdmurraythere is card for the ftbfs bugs15:56
dokolast issues: https://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20190614-gcc9-eoan.html15:56
dokoshould I file issues for those as well?15:57
bdmurraycards were created for all the ftbfs bugs for foundations packages15:57
dokobdmurray: not for the gcc9 issues yet. would you like to care about these?15:59
bdmurrayI mean that all the ftbfs bugs that were previously filed and tagged rls-ee-incoming were targetted to Eoan and cards were created for them.16:00
rbalintdoko, i think it is a bit early since Debian's fixes will start flowing in two weeks16:00
dokorbalint: yes, but that doesn't mean that GCC 9 is the default in Debian at this time16:04
sil2100Ok, guess let me change the topic16:06
sil2100#topic AOB16:06
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sil2100Anything else besides that?16:07
bdmurrayNext Thursday is a US holiday16:07
sil2100Ok, thanks guys! Next chair will be...16:07
sil2100waveform: can you chair next time?16:07
sil2100#endmeeting16:07
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jun 27 16:07:56 2019 UTC.16:07
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-06-27-15.03.moin.txt16:07
sil2100bdmurray: noted16:08
rbalinto/16:08
waveformsil2100, sure16:08

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