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[15:00] <cyphermox> o/
[15:00] <tdaitx> o/
[15:00] <waveform> o/
[15:01] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <cyphermox> hangout not cooperating here.
[15:02] <cyphermox> it's just megaslow
[15:02] <juliank> o/o/o/
[15:03] <rbalint> we can still start the meeting here
[15:03] <sil2100> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:04] <sil2100> #topic Lightning rounds
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[15:04] <sil2100> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
[15:04] <sil2100> juliank infinity tdaitx vorlon sil2100 mwhudson bdmurray cyphermox doko xnox rbalint waveform
[15:04]  * juliank wins
[15:04] <juliank>  * finished the apt 1.9.0 transition
[15:04] <juliank>   * released python-apt 1.9.0; broke image building :/
[15:04] <juliank>   * fixed livecd-rootfs and apt-xapian-index for new python-apt, hopefully fixing image building :)
[15:04] <juliank>   * fixed dependency solving in aptdaemon to behave more normally (and work with apt 1.9)
[15:04] <juliank>  * verified dkms SRU LP: #1827697 across releases (lots of VM to install, gotta simplify that)
[15:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1827697 in dkms (Ubuntu Eoan) "Enroll key whiptail prompt blocks kernel header package upgrades" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827697
[15:04] <juliank>  * TIL (or TWL):
[15:04] <juliank>   * How to start qemu in secureboot, although a bit hackish, not proper
[15:04] <juliank>   * That cosmic does not render in qemu except with qxl vga device; and then it's still missing cursor!
[15:04] <juliank>  * Things to figure out:
[15:04] <juliank>   * Backporting LP: #1744318 - https for changelogs.u.c to xenial; and what regressions we could get
[15:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1744318 in update-manager (Ubuntu Xenial) "changelogs.ubuntu.com should be using HTTPS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1744318
[15:05] <juliank> (done)
[15:05] <tdaitx> * verified fixes for tomcat8, netbeans, and scilab (LP: #1825604, LP: #1828427, LP: #1825037, LP: #1827090)
[15:05] <tdaitx> * jck + openjdk-ri packaging (ie. squaring a circle)
[15:05] <tdaitx>   - going through documentation
[15:05] <tdaitx>   - trying to snap it somehow
[15:05] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1825604 in netbeans (Ubuntu Disco) "[SRU] Netbeans 10 should depend on java11-sdk" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825604
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1828427 in netbeans (Debian) "[SRU] Netbeans fails to create a java project with NoSuchMethodError" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828427
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1825037 in scilab (Ubuntu) "[SRU] scilab-cli and scilab-adv-cli does not start on bionic, cosmic, disco and eoan" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825037
[15:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1827090 in tomcat8 (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] tomcat8-instance-create fails to update control port" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827090
[15:06] <sil2100> I guess no vorlon for the meeting this week
[15:06] <sil2100> Let me go
[15:06] <sil2100> - Out-of-office Thursday-Friday last week
[15:06] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
[15:06] <sil2100> - Kernel SRUs
[15:06] <sil2100> - Switching-off dry-run mode from britney's SRU ADT regression notification
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Had to tweak the e-mail logic to make it working
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Requesting a bot account for SRU purposes
[15:06] <sil2100> - Finishing jenkins jobs for new core18 promotion purposes
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Iterating on the merge a bit with a few fixes here and there
[15:06] <sil2100>   * Preparing all credentials, sending them over
[15:06] <sil2100> - Looking into the snapd issues in powerpc builds, fixed livecd-rootfs, sponsored some cherry-picks for snapd
[15:06] <sil2100> - Releasing a new core18 into stable, manually phasing the update as per snapstore request
[15:06] <sil2100> - NEW review of an ubuntustudio package
[15:06] <sil2100> - Sponsoring + random stuff
[15:06] <sil2100> (done)
[15:07] <sil2100> bdmurray: I guess it's your turn
[15:07] <bdmurray> uploaded u-r-u fix for deb2snap transition for upgrades from 18.04 (LP: #1833753)
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1833753 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade crashed with AttributeError in _replaceDebsWithSnaps(): 'UbuntuDistroInfo' object has no attribute 'version'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833753
[15:07] <bdmurray> resolved issue with DistUpgradeQuirks and deb2snap transition for upgrades from Ubuntu 18.04
[15:07] <bdmurray> dropped u-r-u's obsolete kernel removal code in Eoan (LP: #1828100)
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1828100 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "KernelRemoval section of DistUpgrade.cfg shouldn't require manual updating" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828100
[15:07] <bdmurray> fixed an issue with the foundations team bug bot and lp users that are 410
[15:07] <bdmurray> tested a minimum / partition install (LP: #1833610)
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1833610 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "minimum disk space recommendation is too small" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833610
[15:07] <bdmurray> reported apport bug LP: #1833795
[15:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1833795 in apport (Ubuntu) "unable to report an 18.04 crash from a 19.04 system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833795
[15:07] <bdmurray> dropped SystemImageInfo gathering from apport's ubuntu general hook
[15:07] <bdmurray> converted parts of oops-repository from using pycassa to python-cassandra
[15:07] <bdmurray> removed SystemImageInfo code from daisy as it is no longer needed there
[15:07] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:07] <bdmurray> review of rls- tagged bug reports
[15:08] <bdmurray> cyphermox:
[15:08] <cyphermox> short week: off Monday, off tomorrow and next monday.
[15:08] <cyphermox> MIR review
[15:08] <cyphermox> reviewed more rls-*-incoming bugs w/ Brian
[15:08] <cyphermox> grub2: merge, grub-reboot, EFI stub loading from 'linux' command
[15:08] <cyphermox> netplan feature spec flags partly approved now (still needs signoffs from Server / Jay)
[15:08] <cyphermox> more netplan specs to draft / need review
[15:08] <cyphermox> packageset update / figuring out exceptions for desktop-common/-core
[15:08] <cyphermox> partner work
[15:08] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:09] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:09] <doko> - last Thursday bank holiday
[15:09] <doko> - Merge the riscv64 zero patches for openjdk 11, and up
[15:09] <doko> - test rebuild give backs, fixing GCC 9 issues, filing GCC upstream issues
[15:09] <doko> - test rebuild on ppc64el not yet finished ...
[15:09] <doko> - OpenJDK sync
[15:09] <doko> (done)
[15:10] <bdmurray> xnox: is sprinting
[15:10] <bdmurray> rbalint:
[15:10] <rbalint> * partner work
[15:10] <rbalint> * shadow:
[15:10] <rbalint>   - prepared next upstream release in Salsa
[15:10] <rbalint>   - converted to dh from cdbs
[15:10] <rbalint>   - preparation of moving login to util-linux in progress
[15:11] <rbalint> * unattended-upgrades related reviews
[15:11] <rbalint> * prepared srus for LP: #1771858 in cluding tracking down regressions and non-regressions
[15:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1771858 in snapd (Ubuntu) "/snap/bin not in default PATH for units, snapd should ship system-environment-generators to inject /snap/bin into $PATH" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771858
[15:11] <rbalint> (done)
[15:11] <waveform> * Pi4 launch week! Posted some hardware off to cwayne (indirectly)
[15:11] <waveform> * Investigated boot state on pi4: some minor changes (new firmware), some major changes (second stage boot-loader now in EEPROM, no support for netboot and USB yet - forthcoming updates)
[15:11] <waveform> * Prepped updates to get eoan images booting on pi4; not yet tested, need updates to flash-kernel (see below)
[15:11] <waveform> * Prepped merged classic & core bootscripts for RPi (adding optional splash support)
[15:11] <waveform> * Agreed way forward with sil2100: merge updated bootscripts into flash-kernel, SRU bootscript patches (but not version upgrade) to bionic, then PR pi3-gadget to use new bootscripts
[15:11] <waveform> * Investigating pyparted & fftw3 FTBFS on armhf issues for doko; replicated fftw3 failure (NEON related) but not pyparted so far
[15:11] <waveform> * Still looking into BT on core
[15:11] <waveform> (done)
[15:12] <sil2100> \o/
[15:12] <sil2100> #topic Release incoming bugs
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[15:12] <sil2100> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> bug 1832309
[15:12] <ubottu> bug 1832309 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "netplan stores wifi-password world-readable" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832309
[15:12] <bdmurray> cyphermox: can you confirm that?
[15:13] <cyphermox> yes, that's known
[15:13] <gaughen> waveform, I tried to buy a pi4!
[15:13] <bdmurray> cyphermox: seems worth carding then right?
[15:13] <cyphermox> I mean, it's a textfile you need to write to...
[15:13] <cyphermox> yeah, there's a PR for part of that too
[15:13] <bdmurray> okay, so carding
[15:14] <bdmurray> bug 1834226
[15:14] <ubottu> bug 1834226 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "update-notifier doesn't respect "automatically check for updates: Never"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834226
[15:16] <bdmurray> while poorly described this seems familiar to me
[15:17] <bdmurray> I think its really about unattended-upgrades not respecting a setting from software-properties-gtk. Does that sound familiar balint?
[15:17] <sil2100> rbalint: ^
[15:18] <rbalint> bdmurray, it is apt that calls u-u
[15:18] <rbalint> juliank, ^
[15:18] <rbalint> :-)
[15:18] <rbalint> (via systemd timers)
[15:18] <juliank> that's packagekit I assume
[15:18] <rbalint> :-D
[15:19] <rbalint> i propose taking the bug :-)
[15:19] <juliank> PackageKit has its own timer, and it's not configurable
[15:19] <juliank> Simple fix is to remove the never option
[15:19] <gaughen> bdmurray, my vote on that netplan card is that we put it on the list to get working on this next iteration
[15:19] <gaughen> so on the prioritized lane please
[15:19] <rbalint> juliank, i think it is not really the direction of pleasing users :-)
[15:20] <juliank> No hang on, I think it's actually gnome-settings-daemon issuing the Refresh call to PackageKit
[15:20] <bdmurray> gaughen: ack
[15:21] <juliank> But in any case, we can't be sure what the cause is, we need a ps tree
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[15:21] <sil2100> We don't have to solve it now, but is this something we'd want to get fixed this cycle?
[15:22] <rbalint> sil2100, yes, imo
[15:22] <juliank> It's certainly not urgent as its been that way all the time, but yes
[15:22] <bdmurray> I think finding whatever bug I'm remembering would be good
[15:22] <bdmurray> That way we have an idea of the number of people who choose "Never"
[15:23] <sil2100> Let's maybe card it then?
[15:23] <bdmurray> How about we leave it on the list until the detective work is done.
[15:24] <rbalint> bdmurray, i think the process is taking it then doing the work
[15:24] <bdmurray> We are also make a lot of assumptions about what the person is talking about, so asking some follow up questions seems good to me too.
[15:24] <sil2100> Ok
[15:25] <bdmurray> bug 1829805 is also high
[15:25] <ubottu> bug 1829805 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Eoan Daily Image fails to boot after install on KVM" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829805
[15:26] <bdmurray> xnox has asked for some more information though so leaving it seems fine
[15:26] <sil2100> Yeah, let's wait for the reporter to provide more info
[15:26] <bdmurray> Lets move on to the Undecided ones next
[15:26] <bdmurray> bug 1796260
[15:26] <ubottu> bug 1796260 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "UEFI install onto an MBR disk, with a pre-existing os/partition, results in a non-bootable ESP on a logical partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1796260
[15:27] <gaughen> isn't that one mwhudson is working on
[15:27] <sil2100> This sounds familiar
[15:28] <bdmurray> It looks like there is a card for this
[15:28] <cyphermox> sil2100: because we've discussed this previously
[15:32] <bdmurray> Let's set the importance of it. What should we do about the rls-ee-incoming tag?
[15:33] <bdmurray> bug 1833758
[15:33] <ubottu> bug 1833758 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "lvm2: vgcfgbackup in postinst takes several minutes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1833758
[15:34] <bdmurray> Does this only happen w/ schroot?
[15:35] <sil2100> sbeattie: ^
[15:37] <bdmurray> sil2100 and I'll have a look at it to see what situations are affected.
[15:37] <sil2100> I'll try investigating this, seeing what impact it has
[15:38] <bdmurray> Oh, whoops we missed bug 1832882
[15:38] <ubottu> bug 1832882 in curl (Ubuntu Disco) "libcurl-gnutls segfaults spotify client" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832882
[15:39] <bdmurray> So while the snap works it might be nice to fix this anyway
[15:39] <bdmurray> It seems like a pretty straightforward SRU
[15:39] <rbalint> bdmurray, isn't it a 3rd party package?
[15:40] <juliank> I don't see a patch
[15:41] <bdmurray> rbalint: Yes
[15:41] <rbalint> juliank, there is one in the github issue
[15:42] <rbalint> bdmurray, sry maybe it is valid still for curl
[15:42] <juliank> rbalint: might not be the same issue
[15:43] <rbalint> it is worth trying i think
[15:44] <bdmurray> seb pointed to this https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/curl/news/20190512T204836Z.html
[15:44] <bdmurray> Does the debian bug have a test case?
[15:47] <bdmurray> Well let's just take it.
[15:47] <sil2100> +1
[15:48] <rbalint> +1
[15:48] <juliank> meow!
[15:48] <bdmurray> That is all the High and Undecided bug reports
[15:48] <gaughen> juliank, is that the new hipper +1?
[15:49] <juliank> either that or -1
[15:49] <sil2100> Should we move on?
[15:49] <sil2100> #topic Team proposed-migration report
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[15:49] <gaughen> sil2100, no too busy thinking about cats
[15:49] <sil2100> hah!
[15:49] <sil2100> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:50] <doko> so, adam tells me that glibc and binutils issues are likely caused by a kernel regression
[15:51] <doko> I'll address the sphinx issue with the python 3.7.4 today or tomorrow
[15:52] <sil2100> doko: does the kernel team know about the regressions?
[15:52] <gaughen> doko, wonder if the fix for the regression is coming out this week
[15:52] <doko> accordng to adam, yes
[15:52] <gaughen> doko, okay then these should be gone by our next mtg
[15:52] <rbalint> partman-multipath is waiting for comments from xnox
[15:53] <doko> that's it. I'd like to continue with https://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20190614-eoan.html
[15:53] <doko> who is owning whoopsie?
[15:56] <bdmurray> there is card for the ftbfs bugs
[15:56] <doko> last issues: https://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20190614-gcc9-eoan.html
[15:57] <doko> should I file issues for those as well?
[15:57] <bdmurray> cards were created for all the ftbfs bugs for foundations packages
[15:59] <doko> bdmurray: not for the gcc9 issues yet. would you like to care about these?
[16:00] <bdmurray> I mean that all the ftbfs bugs that were previously filed and tagged rls-ee-incoming were targetted to Eoan and cards were created for them.
[16:00] <rbalint> doko, i think it is a bit early since Debian's fixes will start flowing in two weeks
[16:04] <doko> rbalint: yes, but that doesn't mean that GCC 9 is the default in Debian at this time
[16:06] <sil2100> Ok, guess let me change the topic
[16:06] <sil2100> #topic AOB
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[16:07] <sil2100> Anything else besides that?
[16:07] <bdmurray> Next Thursday is a US holiday
[16:07] <sil2100> Ok, thanks guys! Next chair will be...
[16:07] <sil2100> waveform: can you chair next time?
[16:07] <sil2100> #endmeeting
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[16:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 27 16:07:56 2019 UTC.
[16:07] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-06-27-15.03.moin.txt
[16:08] <sil2100> bdmurray: noted
[16:08] <rbalint> o/
[16:08] <waveform> sil2100, sure