=== WinterNight1 is now known as WinterNight [00:23] My computer’s HD was replaced, cloning the old drive to a new one. (It had a dual-boot setup - Ubuntu 19.04 and Windows 10.) I’m pretty sure GRUB was messed up, so I booted from the LiveCD to try and repair it but... [00:24] “sudo grub-install /dev/sda” < that’s the drive [00:24] gives me: [00:24] “grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of ‘/cow’.” [00:24] What does that mean? [00:25] how do create a non lvm partition in the free space on /dev/md1? [00:25] parted/gdisk/fdisk don't see any partitions on /dev/md1 [00:25] https://i.imgur.com/9TgHebr.png [00:27] Got an error on removing apparmor here https://pastebin.com/XUay4v90 fail on snapd. [00:28] akem: please file a bug for that, ubuntu-bug snapd [00:29] Ok, i did the other one for evince. [00:29] removing apparmor .. not really a supported trick to do [00:30] yeah [00:30] but purging snapd ought not die like that [00:30] akem: "234 not upgraded." . What about ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f insatll ' ? [00:32] this might be related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1798091 [00:32] Launchpad bug 1798091 in evince (Ubuntu Disco) "thumbnailer cannot create tempfiles (with apparmor denials)" [High,Fix released] [00:33] see comment #17 #18 and how to add yourself to the bugreport [00:33] Bashing-om, i fear something would break, i have a script to backup / in a tarball, i want to do that first. [00:33] evince-thumbnailer [00:34] I had some annoying issue with wifi drivers etc. [00:34] OerHeks, ok. [00:35] probably best to file a new bug and give that bug number in the description as a possibly related bug [00:35] well, not about that action to remove apparmor.. [00:35] not sure how one could fix that, besides a full backup [00:36] right, removing apparmor you're just kind of on your own. removing snapd ought to work, and that rm just looks busted, so a bug report there would be nice [00:43] OerHeks, but the bug report is for Nautilus, and the problem only occurs with Nemo. Anyway it's also related to some apparmor profile. [00:43] What are the risks removing apparmor? [00:45] no, it is against evince-thumbnailer [00:45] nautilius uses the same routine [00:45] Ah ok, yes. [00:46] SoItBegins: I can tell you that cow means copy-on-write: it's how a liveCD can be 'writable' without actually writing. So, /cow is something to do with the live CD. Run mount to check whether sda is the right drive; it may be that the names have swapped around [00:46] oke, this is disco, but comments say it is fixed, others say it did not.. [00:49] akem: apparmor confines services; we've got profiles on thumbnailers because they are easy to exploit [00:50] akem: we've confined a handful of services and applications with apprmor to try to mitigate the risks of those programs being exploited [00:50] akem: removing apparmor means those things are no longer confined. that might be fine if you never browse directories of pdfs or images downloaded off the internet, etc [00:51] akem: apparmor is also what confines programs in the snap packaging world; since that's an app-store style security model, it's what keeps the apps confined to just the plugs and interfaces that they need [00:53] sarnold, i see, thanks for the clarification. Yes of course i browse files downloaded from the internet and everything. Well i could still reinstall apparmor later and it should get back as before. [00:54] yeah [00:57] that rm -rf /var/cache/snapd/* in snapd.postrm shouldn't fail that way; what else has been done to that system? immutable? [01:03] TJ-, On my system? i didn't change much, no immutable anything afaik. [01:03] deltab: I figured it out. First, the EFI partition had only the windows boot information, so I added it back. That got GRUB working. Then, well… turns out the cloner didn’t respect partition order! So I booted into emergency mode and had to modify /etc/fstab with the new location of the EFI partition. [01:05] ah [01:05] BTW, there is one little issue left... [01:05] GRUB thinks my Windows partition is still at /dev/sda2, when the cloner moved it to /dev/sda4. How do I fix this? [01:05] edit the groub config? [01:06] Yeah, that. How do I do that? [01:06] I tried opening grub.cfg in the text editor, but there was a big warning at the top that said not to edit it manually. [01:06] SoItBegins: /boot/grub/grub.cfg is created by running "sudo update-grub" [01:06] Got it. [01:07] Did that. Seems to have worked, I think… I’ll reboot to double check. [01:07] SoItBegins: update-grub runs script from /etc/grub.d/* and reads /etc/default/grub for variable settings [01:07] SoItBegins: one of those scripts will call the tool "os-prober" that will discover the Windows OS and create the entry [01:08] It says the windows boot manager is on /dev/sda3 (the EFI partition) now. Testing it. [01:08] Windows 10 boots successfully as well. [01:08] SoItBegins: that is correct, on UEFI :) [01:09] Thanks for all your help! Now I can get to doing the stuff I wanted to do. [01:29] For those running on BTRFS, do you need to leave unallocated space for the snapshots to work or is that not needed? [01:29] Well, this is awkward. I’m trying to install the driver for a Wi-Fi dongle. [01:29] The thing is, the driver code is good through Kernel version 4.4. [01:29] I’m on Kernel version 5 and I’m getting a compile error. [01:42] gbit86: do you mean making snapshots, or reading from them? either way I'd make sure there's free space, because btrfs can't do much when it runs out of space [01:43] SoItBegins: what's the error message? === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:44] deltab: It was that they changed the timer interface in kernel 4.15, so function “init_timer” was gone and an “__init_timer” was present. [01:44] I found a better driver for the dongle elsewhere. [01:44] Well I haven't ever really dealt with snapshots of any linux based fs before, so my only experience with such things is System Restore and VSS on Windows, which manages to create some sort of snapshot without requiring unallocated space. [01:45] I am guessing things are simply different in Linux, where knowing the actual details of what you have available up front is important. [01:45] ( old driver = https://www.tp-link.com/ca/support/download/tl-wn725n/ - new driver = https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu ) [01:46] And now maybe my connection won’t drop after the first 15 seconds. [01:46] From the research I have been doing I am partial towards just using lvm thin with ext4, after learning that I can't snapshot my regular LVM2 volume because I consumed the entire disk during setup -.-. [01:47] And sorry I didn't @deltab [01:47] there'd need to be some space to store the snapshot metadata, surely? [01:48] though it might not be very much [01:48] Right, so as long as I leave unallocated space it'll handle the creation of all the sub volumes I presume when I initiate a snapshot. === g is now known as glguy [01:49] I use VMs and docker a lot, so if I go the btrfs route I imagine I will need to disable the COW feature everyone keeps referencing as causing huge performance issues @deltab [01:50] a pity, because that's the kind of thing it's useful for [01:50] I guess it depends on how much RAM you have === [b0b] is now known as b0b [01:53] This guy says BTRFS does not require that I reserve space that the system is unaware of... https://superuser.com/questions/705304/reasoning-behind-hosting-virtual-disk-images-on-btrfs-filesystem [01:53] @deltab [01:53] 3rd comment down Thorsten Schöning [01:55] If that's the case.. and I can disable CoW on docker , VB and VMware directories then I will go ahead and try it, even with a performance penalty compared to other options. [02:13] gbit86: oh, you mean space outside of that allocated to btrfs? [02:15] If I install libasio-dev will that also pull in the rest of Boost? [02:17] leonardus: heh, it might; on my system, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5N2c7b3Fhd/ [02:17] :( [02:20] I updated the amdgpu-pro drivers on Ubuntu Budgie, and now I can't get past the login screen. The login screen is in a much lower resolution than normal, and when I log in, the screen goes black for a second before returning to login [02:22] I've had a similar issue before, and it seemed to be some sort of issue from the upgrade process, but I don't remember how I fixed it last time. I thought I just completely uninstalled the driver and reinstalled it, but that didn't fix it. And it uninstalled xorg in the process, so I had to reinstall that, though I think that's happened before, too === [b0b] is now known as b0b [03:55] Why is it that umask command has no effect inside a directory with chmod g+s set (setgid)? [03:56] umask 027 gives me file permissions of 640 on new files, but when I change into a directory with setgid, then new files I create/touch have permissions of 664. Why is that? [03:58] Can anyone hear me? [03:58] imsurit: Can you see my messages to the channel? [03:58] webdoll: yes, we can see your messages. [03:59] SwedeMike: Thanks! Just wanted to make sure. This is my first time using this web client. [03:59] Ubuntu 18.04 I believe apparmor is blocking rsyslog. In journalctl | grep denied I am getting "file '/var/log/syslog': open error: Permission denied [v8.32.0 try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2433 ]" [04:00] in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.rsyslogd I added /var/log/** rw [04:00] -rwxrwxrwx 1 syslog adm 0 Jun 17 06:27 /var/log/syslog [04:01] can someone please tell me how I can enable apparmor to allow rsyslog writing to files in /var/log? [04:01] webdoll: i hear you [04:07] anyone? [04:12] hello, in ubuntu 18, what's the use of the second tray icon next after settings? https://pasteboard.co/IliziNZ.png [04:18] afidegnum: I think it is screen rotation [04:22] here i am.. on ubuntu reluctantly.. [04:25] potus: do you have an actual question? [04:30] I find myself running a docker script very often (https://stackoverflow.com/a/42419060) - but I'm always copy/pasting from this answer. Where should I install this little script so I can call something like docker-ls to call it? just install it in /usr/sbin ? [04:30] whois sam155 [04:39] I'm looking for the pypy twisted package for 18.04 LTS. [04:40] - haven't used Ubuntu w/ pypy yet, was kinda surprised not to find a pypy-twisted. [04:40] Hello. How to install exa? [04:41] I.e. https://github.com/ogham/exa ? [04:45] Also, how to install rust? Which package? [04:53] ryuo: do you? [04:54] potus: this is the ubuntu support channel, please focus on actual problems only [04:54] psprint: for git help, best to contact the git maintainer for help/support/install [04:56] ubuntu should switch to xfce for default windowmaker [04:56] potus: stop that please [04:57] also the ulgy off black color, why was that choosen? is there some significance? [04:57] xieta: apt-cache search twisted [04:57] lotussychje: sounds like your an efnet troll buddy.. rejoin #l*** with the rest of your mason friends.. stop trolling because once i make a move you'll get madd [04:58] now, i installed the os and im giving my comments to this channel which is suppose to have the developers [04:58] lotuspsychje, and then what? There are python-twisted-* packages but not pypy-twisted-* packages. [04:58] soo jump on another profile and say something dim witted. geez [05:01] xieta: we advice to install packages from the official repos as much as possible, if your needed package isnt there, we cant do much? [05:08] That's what I'm trying to understand - just curious why the official repos have pypy but not pypy-twisted. I'm also lurking in #pypy so when I learn what the recommended method for installation is - I'll share it here too. [05:08] Thanks for your support :) [05:21] I’m trying to install Vulkan on my computer. Does anyone have any recommendations on the most up-to-date way to do it? [05:30] SoItBegins, Have you tried Lutris first to see about it all working? [05:33] xieta: No. I don’t know what Lutris is. [06:16] I reinstalled apparmor, i'll try to just disable the evince profile for my thumbnails to shows up, it should be a bit better, less radical. [06:18] stuck here - I installed nvidia drivers for the 750m on this lenovo y510p via: ubuntu-drivers autoinstall - now I can't auto hide the dock for reasons I can't even explain, and even worse - apt is scaring me - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CKtgQKfF5M/ === morphis16 is now known as morphis === cupcake90 is now known as cupcake === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [07:28] hi [07:29] anyone know how to remove bar border in conky ? been looking for that and did not find anything [07:38] brian1343: dont know about that one, but I use conky with lua rings like explained in https://www.unixmen.com/install-conky-lua-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-04-debian-fedora-linux-mint-opensuse/ [07:39] brian1343: you get quite nice stuff out from the conky with it. [07:40] pavlos: that's what i thought but my screen is not rotating. it's an hp Envy touch screen with screen rotation feature [07:41] ping goudberk.open.net [07:41] afidegnum: you have ubuntu on an Envy? How's it working ? Sorry missed the earlier conversation [07:41] sorry for that :) === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [08:38] I’m trying to upgrade my Ubuntu graphics drivers to enable OpenGL 4.0 features. I have an AMD Radeon HD 6450 (Caicos). [08:49] Mava42: i asked a question earlier, " in ubuntu 18, what's the use of the second tray icon next after settings? https://pasteboard.co/IliziNZ.png" [08:50] afidegnum: press on it? see what it does? [08:58] hey, I'm looking at getting dropbear-intramfs setup to unlock full disk luks encryption remotely during boot, currently following this article: https://hamy.io/post/0009/how-to-install-luks-encrypted-ubuntu-18.04.x-server-and-enable-remote-unlocking/. I want to bond my ethernet and wifi so that there is a fallback if either fails, does anyone know if dropbear is able to work with this bonded interface? [09:00] afidegnum: how much ram memory you have? total. Just curious [09:37] j0h: it's not so much a matter of whether dropbox can do it, it's more a matter of whether the initramfs can. And I don't think it can (I could be wrong). [09:37] ahh gotcha tomreyn [09:37] I've searching for dropbear solutions but I should be looking for intramfs in my search I guess [09:37] you want to bond ethernet and wifi - how do you plan to do this? [09:38] well, I was hoping that it would be possible because it is possible on the full ubuntu os: https://lemmster.de/network-bonding-wlan-eth-on-linux-ubuntu.html [09:39] the idea is that, if the machine is plugged in remotely, it'll try and connect to either interface [09:39] just in case one isn't available [09:39] that was I can remote in and unlock luks [09:39] gofio: 16Gb [09:40] lotuspsychje: i did, i even rotated the screen, no success [09:41] gofio: no 12Gb [09:42] j0h: i see, i assume such a bond will require support on the other end of the connections. i just don't see this diuscussed. [09:43] hum, what do you mean by the other end? It would just be a simple active-backup which would switch if ethernet is not active? [09:45] j0h: you're right, it's not actual link aggregation, just a failover scenario, so i guess it doesn't need support on both ends [09:45] yea [09:45] j0h: i'm still not convinced that initrd will support it, though. [09:52] ahh ok [10:01] Can one also ask server/admin topics here or is this more for desktop users? [10:03] teasd: there's #ubuntu-server if you wanna be 100% sure [10:03] teasd: you could yeah, there's an #ubuntu-server channel as well if nobody here knows [10:03] That's probably a better fit, thank you! [10:10] Maybe gonna put it here as well, couldn't hurt: I have a server connected to our active directory via realmd/sssd. Problem is that everytime an AD-User connects, or when an AD-User runs the `groups` command, it says `groups: cannot find name for group ID 1234567`. This takes a long time everytime someone logs in via ssh. Does somebody know what the [10:10] problem could be? [10:10] yeah don't crosspost, though. [10:10] Didn't know, sorry :/ [10:20] Is the download server chooser a joke. It recommends for me to choose a server from USA even though I am in Finland. [10:28] On the other hand, http://mirrors.nic.funet.fi/ubuntu does not have e.g. usb-creator-gtk. What is wrong with it? [10:29] afidegnum: thanks. Not bad! [10:30] enial-security/main amd64 to be more specific [10:43] jarnos: it is recommended to get security updates directly from security.ubuntu.com for exactly this reason - so that you get security updates immediately [10:52] thsnr, then software-properties-gtk should setup security updates to download from there and not change them to be downloaded from other mirrors. [11:14] Howdy folks [11:32] Morning [12:31] hi, how can you know all the servers running on the system ? [12:34] Cooler, "know all the servers" ? Do you mean services or something else? [12:36] Cooler: virtual machines? [12:36] Cooler, if you do mean services, you might be able to use service --status-all [12:36] services like apache dns [12:36] ect.. [12:36] i mean :) [12:36] Cooler: ha :) [12:37] Cooler, if using systemd.... systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled and a little netstat -tunelp wouldn't hurt either [12:38] ok lets try that ! [12:39] Cooler: you need net-tools on latest systems or use ss [12:41] i have 2 monitors connected via DP that are capable of 1440p and 144hz... however it i'm unable to set them to 1080p. 1920x1080 is not recognized by the system. i'm trying to add the resolution in xrandr with no success, any help? [12:42] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPBs4HptcY/ [12:52] inascime: https://superuser.com/questions/119755/hdmi-with-resolution-2560-x-1440-possible perhaps? [12:54] i'm able to use 1440p . the problem is i want to use 1080p resolution but it isn't recognized by the system === waveform_ is now known as waveform [13:00] I've got a problem with a Mellanox Bonded port dropping out, I've changed the DAC cables, upgraded the firmware on the cards. I'm about to install a 5.1 kernal on 18.04 to see if the kernal driver is better. I'm really at a loss. I have the same card versions on other servers with the network set the same way and I've not had any issues. But I have 4 servers that randomly start dropping their ethernet links. Ideas Ping me please. [13:02] If I reboot the server it takes a few days before it will start flapping again. It's causing problems in my ceph cluster [13:05] mTeK, what firmware do you have installed? [13:06] firmware-version: 2.42.5000 [13:06] It was on 2.40.XX and I flashed the new firmware to try to stop this. [13:08] The cards are connectx 3 [13:08] Does dmesg give any useful info? I can't imagine it'll be a hardware issue if it's happening across various hosts [13:10] Not that I can see. https://pastebin.com/mfMqMVcJ [13:11] I thought it was the DAC's so I changed those out. I originally had quanta switches and then moved to arisia, I know the DAC's are different so I changed them [13:11] These servers are mlaged btw [13:12] I have 7 other servers, 3 with 18.04 with the same network config and 4 with debian and ovs not having the issue. [13:14] Same Nics connectx3 might have a pro in there someware. The only difference is the 4 that are having trouble are supermicro servers and the others are dells. [13:19] I'm wrong these 4 have the 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Mellanox Technologies MT27520 Family [ConnectX-3 Pro] [13:27] cupcake ? [13:27] are you there ? [13:27] I have a script that when executed as "php myscript.php", will run much faster than if I run it in the background with "nohup php myscript.php >/dev/null 2>&1 &". All this script does is execute a task, sleep for 10 seconds, then run again and it should be running all day long. However, the difference between the 2 methods is probably about 35 seco [13:27] nds between executions. For some reason the background process sleeps far longer than is defined in the script. [13:27] "net-tools on latest systems " i installed that net-tools but i dont know how to use it [13:28] im googlingit :) [13:30] Cooler: like cupcake90 said, netstat -tunelp. this will show you all programs that are listening on TCP or UDP sockets [13:31] sudo netstat -tunelp, to see the names of all programs [13:36] just upgraded to 19.04 and I'm having an issue in intel gfx where my display hangs or blacks out briefly when fullscreening a video from a browser or a video player [13:41] hey, is this an appropriate channel for ubuntu core distrib help? [13:44] ooohhh ok === sparty_ is now known as sparty [13:50] amdgpu-pro-18.20-606296 doesn't work with 4.15.0-52-generic, so i tried updating to amdgpu-pro-19.20-812932 , but with that the system doesn't recognize my RX580 at all [13:51] sesors can't see it [13:51] but if i uninstall the driver then sensors can see it [13:53] .. i will try to install 18.20 again just to double-check that it's not possible [13:56] I had this issue with my Radeon Vega Frontier Edition. Ended up just using the built in default. [13:56] It wouldn't sense anything plus it made the video even more choppy. [13:57] Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.15.0-52-generic (x86_64) [14:07] port 53 and port 631 are on listening mode. is it normal ? [14:09] Cooler: port 631 is for CUPS, which is what allows other devices to send print jobs to the printer. Normally both of these ports are bound to the loopback interface so the local machine can use them [14:09] oh ok thanks pragmaticenigma [14:11] Cooler: As long as those ports aren't exposed or accessible to the Internet you will be fine. If you have configured your modem/router to forward those ports or set that computer to the DMZ, you are at risk and should disable those options. [14:12] i understand that now :) pragmaticenigma [14:14] ty [14:14] the DMZ is for testing isnt ? [14:16] or redirecting all the packets to one machine [14:17] DMZ is for avoiding the firewall, Cooler [14:17] ohh [14:19] ok i understand now [14:19] bad name, demilitarized zone... when it's basically the opposite, it's the war zone [14:20] if an intruder get his hand on your router and set it to DMZ some local ip he can attack any machine ? [14:20] " the war zone " [14:20] Cooler, if intruder gets their hand(s) on your router, you have already lost the attack [14:21] Cooler: No, DMZ means that any traffic sent to your router is passed directly to the computer defined in the DMZ. Meaning that if that computer does not have a firewall of its own, it is completely vulnerable to attack from the Internet [14:21] But, yes, basically... if they have control over your router, they can attack any system the router talks to... but, that system still has to have vulnerable services /etc [14:23] I see... [14:23] would you use a machine with iptable and then configure other systems to connect trought that machine with DMZ ? [14:26] that s why you have to patch your router with the latest firmware ? [14:27] im noob :) [14:28] JimBuntu, if you loose the attack. What can you do shutdown the router ? [14:28] Cooler: pull the plug? [14:29] only real option if you've lost control. [14:29] I'm using openbox and lightdm on xenial. openbox says it has no power management by default. xscreensaver is set to mode: off. what else could have just switched off my screen? [14:30] Sven_vB: X has a timeout where it'll blank the screen after a period of inactivity. see xset. [14:30] ryuo, thanks! [14:30] dpms [14:31] that s right ryuo [14:31] xset q says Screen Saver: prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes timeout: 600 cycle: 0 [14:31] DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 600 Suspend: 0 Off: 900 DPMS is Disabled [14:31] so it's probably the screen saver timeout? [14:32] Sven_vB: both i guess. i never looked at it that closely. [14:32] Sven_vB: just know it has ways to configure it when not using a full DE. [14:33] ok [14:33] afaik this is primary a feature of X and not the DE. [14:33] primarily [14:33] DE just configures and hooks into it. [14:36] I've just added sh -c 'xset -dpms; xset s off' to my autostart and will see if that helps. [14:37] also ran it right away and now my screensaver timeout shows 0 so probably that was it. [14:48] Hi! I have dualboot Win7/Kubuntu laptop with partitions /dev/sda1 – 5 + an unallocated/unknown partition. /dev/sda4 it the extended partition that holds /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 + the unallocated one. (/dev/sda1-3 are windows 7). Now I need to delete the /dev/sda5 (old ubuntu studio install) and use the space from it + the unallocated one in /dev/sda6, the active Kubunu. It’s not possible for med to delete /dev/sda5. Can someone help [14:48] me with that? ..Grub must also be cleaned up.. [14:49] I Asked in #Kubuntu and was told to boot live USB - do what I want to do - and then chroot and update grub. Was not quite comfortable with that reply since I am new to linux... [14:51] Thr0r: Please don't cross post, and if you're not comfortable with the procedure, then ask the helper in the previous channel to step you through the process. [14:53] OK - Thank you so much [14:55] should I use this netplan to setup my networking continue to use interfaces? [14:55] ubuntu server 18.04 [14:58] j0h: come join to #ubuntu-server please [14:58] thanks lotuspsychje [15:02] if I install zsh, will it automatically move my all of the stuff in my bashrc to zshrc? If not, how do I sync my settings then? [15:05] pragmaticenigma: Could you at least confirm somehow that the advice I got was somewhere near what I should do? [15:05] I find myself running a docker script very often (https://stackoverflow.com/a/42419060) - but I'm always copy/pasting from this answer. Where should I install this little script so I can call something like docker-ls to call it? just install it in /usr/sbin ? [15:08] jayjo: ~/.local/bin (and make sure that's in PATH) or /usr/local/bin (if you need it system-wide). you could also set shell aliases for it. [15:09] should I use `install` or just move it manual? [15:10] Thr0r: If you're not comfortable with the advice given, then don't do it. Simple as that. If you're that concerned then you should have Disk image backups to make sure you can recover from any mistakes. [15:11] Thr0r: The volunteers here are very knowledgeable, but can make mistakes. It is ultimately up to you to decide who and what you trust, and for you to do the research necessary to verify what you are being told. [15:13] having backups helps when things go wrong [15:14] pragmaticenigma: OK - I was sure this was the support channel where one could trust advice and not get into problems, I am new and is not in a position where I can trust everyone just like that. Backups I have but time I don't.. [15:16] Thr0r: If you don't have the time to devote to these projects, then you should reconsider what you are doing. [15:19] pragmaticenigma: I just wanted to give Linux a chance.. but seems I will go back to Windows pretty soon.. [15:19] !dualboot | Thr0r start here [15:19] Thr0r start here: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot === rikmills is now known as RikMills [15:22] Thr0r: We're all here to help, but it is up to you to decide what you're comfortable with. I know I have talked to you before and suggested that to try out linux, consider using a virtual machine instead to test your ideas out in. We are all volunteers here, and we all have limited time to be able to help. To request that someone do all the validation and verification that you are capable of doing on your own isn't fair to the [15:22] rest of members of any channel seeking help. It monopolizes the time and attention that others also need. [15:24] pragmaticenigma: I just wanted help to remove a partition - thats all. But thanks for all help. [15:40] i'm trying to share my wifi connnection to a device via ethernet, i went to the connection editor and set the ethernet connection's ipv4 settings to "shared to other computers" and it seems to be working, but i can't figure out what ip address the device has via connection sharing, anyone have an idea how to do that (or test if it's working)? [15:41] mmazing, you could run "ip addr" and look for an IP on the ethernet [15:42] i see one, but when i go to it it's just my computer and not the device [15:42] inet 10.42.0.1/24 brd 10.42.0.255 scope global enp4s0 [15:42] i nmapped 10.42.0.0/24 and can't find it that way either [15:43] although when i nmap that range the ethernet activity lights up on the device [15:47] mmazing, try netstat -tap [15:49] BluesKaj, only thing i see there related to that network is 10.42.0.1:domain - dnsmasq [15:49] seems like it's not getting an ip address [15:51] does this exist somewhere - ported/forked version of 18.04 for powerpc (g4,g5) - not looking for quick answer just would like to know if a ubuntu ports exist like it does for debian? [15:52] not 18.04 for higher than g5....it's nice to see power8 but I don't have that hardware [15:52] going back to lurk mode [15:53] !mac | donofrio [15:53] donofrio: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [15:53] donofrio, and... https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/index.html [15:56] again, thank you for the quick links but I'm looking for current revision 18.04 or 19.04 in a "Ports" version like I have with Debian 10 (granted while not supported it does work) so I'll go back to lurk and I thank you for considering this request/question [15:57] for PowerPC G4 and G5's do not have anything newer than that in PowerPc Arch [15:58] mmazing, try arp -a [16:01] BluesKaj, no dice, just other stuff on wifi network, should i be using a crossover cable? [16:01] hey do you remember what was your favorite retro gaming game ? [16:01] donofrio, is this not the installer you need? http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/bionic/main/installer-ppc64el/current/images/ [16:01] sorry wrong channel [16:02] mmazing: the NetworkManager dnsmasq/dhcp server running on the shared connection will issues leases in the 10.0.42.0/24 range [16:03] mmazing: you should be able to find the leases files under /run/NetworkManager/ or possibly /var/lib/NetworkManager/ [16:03] donofrio: If it isn't listed on the ISO download screen, it's not supported, and therefore no one here would have any knowledge or links to send you to find it [16:10] donofrio: it was finally dropped in 2016, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2016-December/001199.html [16:11] mmazing, I thought you were using a cable [16:13] say, for instance, you had a server 400 miles away and no console access, and screwed up the ~/.ssh/config file for a user, is there any way to remotely ignore that syntax error and log in anyawy? i almost certainly know the answer is no, but tt's worth checking before spending money [16:15] Cheez, I don't have an answer for that, however if no one answers here you could try the #linux channel as well [16:16] what's the best way to sync up a google drive with ubuntu 1804 LTS. I am trying to sync my KeePassXC database across a few hosts - seems to be the quickest way [16:16] BluesKaj, i am using a cable, but it's a normal ethernet cable not a crossover cable [16:18] coz_: i'm pretty much resigned to paying the remote hands fee at this point. :) [16:18] Cheez: The answer is no; unless your service provider offers another remote management option, or you have effectively locked that user out of the system. If another user account has access, and has sudo privileges, that user could restore the damaged file. [16:18] i'm almost certain there's no way to bypass it [16:18] odd thatir doesn't show up, unless it's part of your ethernet name and circuit [16:18] no other user has ssh rights :) [16:18] mmazing,^ [16:18] Cheez: then you are out-of-luck i'm affriad [16:19] my own stupid fault really, i did some work on it, i saved and left the session open, and my connection dropped :D [16:19] didn't create a backup user just in case [16:21] the server has an ILOM card, but the card uses https only, is signed with an MD5 cert and requires java 6, which essentially means i'll have tp create a windows XP VM and use IE to even load the damn thing [16:21] no current browser will let you even touch it [16:22] (in normal use the network port the ilom card is plugged into is disabled, ironically i can enable that remotely fine!) [16:27] mmazing: gig-e ports will do the crossover - no need for special cable any more. [16:27] Cheez: unless you run other services which intentionally or unintentionally allow for remote administration of this system there's nothing (except for the ILOM) and a (just) potentially configured and physically existing serial console you can use / do. [16:27] !server | Cheez [16:27] Cheez: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server [16:28] Cheez: actually, ~/.ssh/config is the ssh client configuration, it is not involved in ssh server operation. [16:29] i.e. whether this file is broken, exists or not, should not matter for whether you can authenticate to this systems' running ssh server. [16:29] top/htop shows some processes using about 80% of all 4 cores. (good) -- I need to email this to someone, but screen shots and cut/paste console output is icky. is there something that will format that info in a cut/paste/email friendly format ? [16:30] CarlFK: That isn't entirely true. The ability of the port to do cross over depends on the board manufacturer, not the network speed capabilities. Most newer cards auto negotiate the cross over, the only way to know for sure is to consult the network cards documentation === subopt is now known as _subopt_in_repos [16:30] Cheez: this file, on the remote server, that is. if you broke it on your local computer and thus lost information on how to connect to and authenticate against the remote server, this could be an issue. [16:30] pragmaticenigma: it is in the spec. if it doesn't, then technically it isn't gig-e. [16:31] which is kinda circular, but meh. Ill bet the number of cards that dont' do it are small enough to ignore. [16:32] CarlFK: "man top" tells you that argument -b will generate output that can be redirected to a file or other destination. Used with "-n 1" will report one cycle of data [16:32] doh. my answer was right under my noise. [16:35] CarlFK: If you can provide a link to the documentation that state Gig-E always supports "auto-mdix" I would be interested in reviewing it. All the documentation I have found says it can be enabled, but nothing about it being required. [16:35] Cheez: you mentioned the ILOM card uses old cert MD% etc; in that case I use an old 32-bit build of Netscape Navigator [16:40] pragmaticenigma: i'm parroting bwh, a DD who's full time job was linux nic drivers for a company that sold 10g nics. [16:41] okay, i'll keep searching for something to add to my library. thanks for the heads up CarlFK [16:47] pragmaticenigma: on my top thing - how do I show multiple cpus (what I get hitting 1) in the -b mode? [16:47] 1 :Single/Separate-Cpu-States toggle [16:51] pragmaticenigma: IEEE 802.3ab (1000BASE-T) makes auto-MDI/MDI-C an optional feature not a requirement [16:51] grrr MDI-X ... silly fingers [16:53] That's what I thought TJ- ... so CarlFK's information isn't fully correct. Gig-E can optionally support auto crossover, its not a reguirement? [16:53] pragmaticenigma: it's more complicated than that :) [16:54] okay, I'll leave it at that then. Thank you both for the information [16:54] pragmaticenigma: for 1000BASE-T in most case auto-MDI-X is not required [16:55] pragmaticenigma: usually the phyical layer (PMA) detects which way cables are wired even when the pairs are wired "wrong" [17:00] Hi all, i am trying to get openvpn server going on ubuntu 18.04 lts; what has happened to easy-rsa in the packages? [17:02] roy2098: what do you mean by "what has happened to easy-rsa in the packages"? [17:02] !info easy-rsa bionic [17:02] easy-rsa (source: easy-rsa): Simple shell based CA utility. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.2-2 (bionic), package size 16 kB, installed size 93 kB [17:03] tomreyn: Package easy-rsa is not available, but is referred to by another package. [17:03] !universe | roy2098 [17:03] roy2098: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [17:03] ok will do thanks! [17:05] my, that's an old how-to i pointed you to [17:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu are better [17:06] ...than the "RecommendedSources" page [17:06] tomreyn: here's what is in my sources.list - deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic main [17:06] i've updated and upgraded [17:06] still no easy-rsa [17:07] roy2098: as indicated by ubottu, easy-rsa is in "universe" [17:07] you only have "main" so far [17:09] ah, thanks again! [17:10] roy2098: note the different support policies for these repositories as outlined on the wiki i pointed you to [17:10] CarlFK: i can't find anything in top to get the cpu utilization [17:10] CarlFK: I thought maybe nmon might have something, but that also is a dead end [17:11] htop doesn't appear to have a mode for an external output [17:12] pragmaticenigma: k - thanks for trying - "we" (or they?) are trying to figure out how much cpu is needed to run a set of processes - "we need i7!!!" um.. I use i5s and I dug up an i3 that seems to be working (but one process shows 97%.. [17:13] ps auxf > file.txt [17:13] i3-2120 from 2009 - anyone know what gen that is? [17:14] probably the first [17:14] CarlFK: gen 2... the first digit indicates the generation [17:14] ioria: I need to show the total [17:15] sandy bridge [17:15] CarlFK, awk and sum it up ? [17:15] sandy bridge sounds familiar. [17:15] man top [17:15] ioria: too hard. TJ: that doesn't prove anything ;) [17:16] ok [17:22] CarlFK: huh? [17:23] TJ-: They are looking for a capturable output of CPU utilization. top doesn't appear to provide that in an exportable [17:23] way [17:24] top -b -n1 > /tmp/top.log [17:24] I have the box here and can see the results: looks OK. trying to document that [17:24] tomreyn: it doesn't break out the cpus like top ... press 1. [17:25] pragmaticenigma: "sar" [17:26] !info sysstat [17:26] sysstat (source: sysstat): system performance tools for Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 11.6.1-1 (bionic), package size 297 kB, installed size 1224 kB [17:28] proper monitoring would work, too ;) [17:29] TJ- like you, I am only willing to put so much effort into helping someone else ;) [17:31] when my script mounts an ext3 partition read-only into a mount point that is used only by my script (e.g. in its temp directory) and later umounts it, will this interfere in some way with other users mounting the same partition, possibly even rw, as long as my script and the interactive users don't read/write the same files? [17:31]