[12:17] <lubot> <N0um3n0> in the Spanish Channel, someone asks if there will be version for Raspberry 4 of lubuntu, thanks!
[14:39] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @N0um3n0 [in the Spanish Channel, someone is asking if there will be version for Raspberry …], Yes, eventually
[14:41] <lubot> <N0um3n0> @tsimonq2 [Yes, eventually], Ok Thanks!
[20:38] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> a reminder that here's some low hanging fruit i'm sure almost anyone here …], Want me to look into it? Or is it done?
[20:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [Want me to look into it? Or is it done?], Please do
[21:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Please do], On it.
[21:05] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker ask if you have questions, but i think things are pretty darn clear. openbox should define no shortcut that can't be defined in lxqt-globalkeys
[21:07] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker ask if you have questions, but i think things are pretty …], Yeah. Understood that. I was about to ask which is the xml file for openbox shortcut configs?
[21:13] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml
[21:16] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/b …], Noted.
[22:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl the openbox file has Super+d for Show/Hide desktop and the Global Actions Manager (menu>Lxqt settings> Shortcut Keys) has Ctrl+Alt+d for the same. … Now as far as I understand, you want the Super+d from openbox config to be moved to the 2nd one, right? Now when I go to Global actions manager and try to modify the Show/Hide
[22:03] <lubot>  desktop shortcut, I can't seem to set it as Super+d. I press Super and d but it doesn't seem to consider it. How do I set it?
[22:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [wxl the openbox file has Super+d for Show/Hide desktop and the Global Actions Ma …], ^ wxl:
[22:05] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker let me review
[22:07] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker is it giving you a complaint about a conflict?
[22:11] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i don't think it gives a warning, actually. weird. but just run `openbox --reconfigure` after any changes you make to the xml file and the conflict should go away
[22:15] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker is it giving you a complaint about a conflict?], No it doesn't give a warning or conflict, it just ignores the combination of super+d
[22:15] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i don't think it gives a warning, actually. weird. but ju …], k.
[22:19] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i don't think it gives a warning, actually. weird. but ju …], Nope. still the same. can't set super+d in place of ctrl+alt+d
[22:20] <wxl> OH
[22:20] <wxl> i probably created some confusion
[22:21] <wxl> there is a global file that we change in our repos. this global file remains in the installed system. it also gets copied to $HOME/.config/openbox for every user. for testing purposes, that's the one you need to mess with. local always overrides global
[22:32] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> there is a global file that we change in our repos. this global file remai …], Yeah even tried commenting out shortcut of Super+d from that and run openbox —reconfigure and then tried to set super+d from shortcut settings, still shame story. :(
[22:33] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i literally just did that on 19.10 and it worked fine
[22:34] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i literally just did that on 19.10 and it worked fine], Oops! just did that again and worked this time.
[22:34] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> might have missed something earlier time. 😅
[22:35] <wxl> ok good
[22:35] <wxl> i was just going to set up a screenshot to prove it XD
[22:52] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Are these required? No. I guess.. … https://phab.lubuntu.me/P7
[22:52] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Are these required? No. I guess.. … https://phab.lubuntu.me/P7], wxl:
[22:53] <wxl> 1s
[22:54] <wxl> it seems in the description i suggest:
[22:55] <wxl> You can activate different "tasks" with Meta + # with /panel/taskbar/task_# although that's not really the same.
[22:55] <wxl> On the other hand, ⇧ + Alt + ⇥ is likely sufficient.
[22:55] <wxl> so tl;dr change W-S to A-S
[22:56] <wxl> although i think the /panel/taskbar/task_ shortcuts would be nice to lxqt-globalkeys
[23:01] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> so tl;dr change W-S to A-S], So now alt+shift+(direction) moves the active window to the next workspace in provided direction. Okay?
[23:04] <wxl> you mean next window?
[23:05] <wxl> i'm suggesting keeping what's there in openbox but changing W-S to A-S.
[23:05] <wxl> as an additional item, you can set lxqt-globalkeys to do Meta-{1-10} to do /panel/taskbar/task_# but it's not a 1:1 match for that so i think keep both
[23:09] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i'm suggesting keeping what's there in openbox but changing W-S to A-S.], Yeah. Didn't comment out. Changed W-S to A-S.
[23:09] <wxl> ok just that when you say "workspace" i think "desktop" rather than "window"
[23:10] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> you mean next window?], No. Here is an example: The Alt + Shift + left moves the active window of sublime text to the desktop which is next to my current desktop.
[23:11] <wxl> yeah so that's what i was concerned about
[23:11] <wxl> the original shortcut didn't do that
[23:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> ok just that when you say "workspace" i think "desktop" rather than "windo …], Yeah. Workspace = desktop.
[23:11] <wxl> it was to move windows within a desktop
[23:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> the original shortcut didn't do that], Yeah. That's why I was asking.
[23:12] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> it was to move windows within a desktop], So what do we do now?
[23:12] <wxl> we used to have W-F{1-4} that i said to delete because we have Ctrl-Fkey in lxqt-globalkeys doing /panel/desktopswitch/desktop_#
[23:13] <wxl> there must be something i'm missing here
[23:13] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> as an additional item, you can set lxqt-globalkeys to do Meta-{1-10} to do …], That is already present. I guess. I can see it in the shortcuts windows.
[23:14] <wxl> in other news: how did you get your grub theme to show up? stick in /boot/grub/themes, add GRUB_THEME=/boot/grub/themes/lubuntu-grub-theme/theme.txt, and sudo update-grub
[23:15] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> we used to have W-F{1-4} that i said to delete because we have Ctrl-Fkey i …], Yup! We had W-F1 to go to desktop 1 and so on but I commented it out as you asked.
[23:15] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> in other news: how did you get your grub theme to show up? stick in /boot/ …], Yup! That's the exact way.
[23:15] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> During sudo update-grub, it should say something like "found theme at.."
[23:16] <wxl> yeah i saw that
[23:19] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> it was to move windows within a desktop], I guess moving windows within one desktop is not required mostly. Even if it is, one can always use mouse. I guess this shortcut of moving windows within a desktop is not required, instead the one which moves windows from one desktop to other might be more useful.  … These 
[23:19] <lubot> are just my views.
[23:20] <wxl> 1s, let me play with this a sec
[23:20] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> 1s, let me play with this a sec], Sure.
[23:23] <wxl> oic
[23:23] <wxl> we have those doing SendToDesktop at the beginning of the settings
[23:24] <wxl> i left a note "i wonder if i can get upstream to support these"
[23:25] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah. those are already there it seems.
[23:26] <wxl> wait oh jeez i'm getting confused by versions XD
[23:27] <wxl> DirectionalCycleWindows should be W-S-direction -> A-S-direction
[23:27] <wxl> SendToDesktop should be A-S-direction -> C-A-S-direction
[23:29] <wxl> remind me in your differential revision to bug upstream to support that 
[23:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Got it!
[23:30] <wxl> in fact
[23:30] <wxl> bug me to get them to support ANYTHING that's left in openbox X'D
[23:31] <wxl> i mean there's bound to be some things that will only be possible with openbox but oh well
[23:31] <wxl> i have an idea all of a sudden
[23:31] <wxl> one that might be worth taking some time to look at before we get in too deep
[23:31] <wxl> i wonder if there's a specification for shortcuts. probably not, but maybe
[23:32] <wxl> might be good to look into and try to design around that
[23:32] <wxl> i gotta jet but if you want to give that a search that'd be rad. maybe freedesktop has something?
[23:32] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! I will check.
[23:35] <wxl> everyone here's @The_LoudSpeaker's hard work https://share.riseup.net/#hfdddfwQKYkVq6tXeCeWzg go test his GRUB theme and report at https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30
[23:36] <wxl> i'd like to see a wide range of testing on this!!!!!!!
[23:36] <wxl> lots of different hardware
[23:36] <wxl> more graphics systems the better
[23:40] <wxl> guiverc: testing this would be nice https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1206
[23:44] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> My system has only UEFI and no legacy support mode so couldn't test on that. I tested in legacy mode in vm. but due to small resolution at boot in vm, it's kinda not looking that good. So someone please test this in an old system  which doesn't has uefi.
[23:45] <kc2bez> I've got a potato I can test it on a little later.
[23:56] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl> SendToDesktop should be A-S-direction - [<wxl> SendToDesktop should be A-S-direction -> C-A-S-direction], So as of now, … C-A-direction switches between desktops … C-S-A-direction sends current active window to next desktop (in that direction) … But these are in openbox conf. Should I add them to lxqt conf?
[23:56] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I've got a potato I can test it on a little later.], Please share a screenshot when you test.