[06:44] <Jonopoly> Laptop seems warmer on idle than windows
 @Jonopoly [<Jonopoly> Laptop seems warmer on idle than windows], Which lubuntu version? Also, laptop specs?
[06:51] <Jonopoly> I'm running lubuntu 19.04 (Jan 2020 Support)
[06:54] <Jonopoly> Laptop is:         Product Name: TUF Gaming FX505GM_FX505GM
[06:56] <Jonopoly> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8750H CPU @ 2.20GHzIntel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile)
[06:56] <Jonopoly>  NVIDIA Corporation GP106M [GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile]
[06:56] <Jonopoly> 8
[06:56] <Jonopoly> 8ram, sorry multi lines
[07:07] <tehmemzguy> ^^
 Fans speed might be low? heating is kinda wierd. Lubuntu is very lightweight. wait around, others might be able to help.
[07:10] <tehmemzguy> Lubuntu is so lightweight my VM was given 1 GB out of 4 GB of RAM, and it's so awesomely smooth.
[07:10] <tehmemzguy> It's giving me multiple orgasms, just as ricing.
[07:11] <Jonopoly>  :)
 @tehmemzguy [<tehmemzguy> It's giving me multiple orgasms, just as ricing.], I am running a vm with 2 gigs of ram out of 6 since last 2 hours, only on battery and my laptop is so compact that it doesn't have any fan but still no heating. The host is also lubuntu. It's on my lap only. NO HEATING EVEN WITHOUT FAN. HAHAHA!!
[07:23] <Jonopoly> feel like i should just go with lubuntu VM >_>
[07:24] <Jonopoly> Infact, i'll see if i can solve this heating issue
[07:24] <Jonopoly> if not i'll just go back to windows with ubuntu vm
[07:29] <Jonopoly> @The_LoudSpeaker: Are you running VM software on windows? with linux installed (on vm) if so what software you using?
 @Jonopoly [<Jonopoly> @The_LoudSpeaker: Are you running VM software on windows? with linux …], I am running a lubuntu vm under a lubuntu host system. the software used is qemu.
 @Jonopoly [<Jonopoly> if not i'll just go back to windows with ubuntu vm], Wait a bit, someone here might be able to help.
 wx: @tsimonq2 @kc2bez
 wxl:
[09:39] <chieta> if i want to recommend my friend to use full lxqt desktop environment which version should i proposed?
 Lubuntu 19.04
[09:40] <chieta> do you use the same version also aptghetto?
 I use Lubuntu only in virtual machines. Currently I am writing from the development version 19.10
[09:42] <chieta> im using windows 10 for daily use without development look good
[09:42] <chieta> 4gig ram is not enough for windows 10
[09:42] <chieta> im using wsl on it
[09:45] <chieta> how to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10 aptghetto?
 Either wait some months and do a release upgrade with `sudo do-release-upgrade` or replace 'disco'  with 'eoan' in /etc/apt/sources.list which might break your installation, because it is not tested
 You can also download the daily iso and install 19.10
 But 19.10 is still in development, so I recommend it only to advanced/experienced users
[09:49] <chieta> note, if i also install 19.04 ... will it be seamless migrate to 20.04?
[09:51] <chieta> i used to use the LTS version due to stability but the guy on this channel not recommend me to use 18.04 because i want to use lxqt one
 If you have 19.04, then you have to upgrade to 19.10 and then to 20.04. If you don't add PPAs, it will very likely succeed
[09:51] <chieta> noted
[09:52] <chieta> preparing to install see you soon from the 19.04 aptghetto
[09:52] <chieta> cheers
[10:00] <chieta> windows 10 https://snag.gy/aVbhHm.jpg using chrome only
[10:00] <chieta> #benchmark
[10:20] <hauk23> Hi, I am trying to upgrade 18.04 to the hwe stack via "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04" but it wants to remove lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-gtk-core and lubuntu-gtk-desktop. What is the right way to proceed? Paste: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zjZc9XyrwR/
 @Maria Andrea [Will itu enCrypt all disk?], If it's a clean install without other os then it will encrypt whole disk.
[10:44] <hauk23> Well, I should be able to keep these meta packages. The package dependencies are updated in bionic-updates but apparently it takes the meta package from bionic.
 @Maria Andrea [I have other...  So itu will be applied on sda5 only?], Ummm. I haven't played along with encryption much. But afaik, full disk is only encrypted when you install only lubuntu on whole disk. If you want to install alongside other OS, it won't encrypt. Infact, when you select 'Install lubuntu alongside..' it
 @Maria Andrea [With this feature...  Should i insert the password to deCrypt the disk after boo …], If you encrypt the disk, it will ask you the password at every boot.
 Wait for sometime. Since I haven't used encryption, I won't say anything.
 @aptghetto @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl anyone here? ^
 @Maria Andrea [Have you tried the New installer...  Here there are replace a partition menu], Idk. Is it in 19.04? I have two 19.04 vms Installed. I didn't notice. I have always done a full disk Install. Even on hardware, I had clean wiped an earlier lubuntu install.
[11:21] <hauk23> For the record: just letting Lubuntu remove the packages and reinstalling them worked fine.
 @hauk23 [<hauk23> For the record: just letting Lubuntu remove the packages and reinstalli …], Great!
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@aptghetto @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl anyone here? ^], Haven't used encryption either, maybe @kc2bez can help
[13:26] <sappheiros> lubot's use here -- does it imply HMollerCl is using a cellphone to chat on IRC?
[13:27] <apt-ghetto> Telegram is bridged to this channel and vice versa
[13:30] <sappheiros> isn't that a cellphone app? is it also a desktop one?
[13:31] <guiverc> sappheiros, telegram can be used on desktops too
[13:31] <apt-ghetto> You must have a phone number to use Telegram, but there is also a desktop app
[13:31] <apt-ghetto> And you can add bots, such like lubot
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Fans speed might be low? heating is kinda wierd. Lubuntu is very lightweight. wa …], I haven't seen a heating issue on any of the hardware installs I have done. You could take a peek at htop or qps to see if something is hogging resources. There is also a sensors widget you can add to the panel to keep an eye on t
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Ummm. I haven't played along with encryption much. But afaik, full disk is only …], The way the installer works you would need to go this way unless you manually set up your partitioning scheme. I am not sure if I know of a guide to walk you through that process.
 @kc2bez [The way the installer works you would need to go this way unless you manually se …], How about writing one? I could help. Our manual should have it.
 I have to run through it a bit first but even a forum thread could be a thing.
 Yup! Meanwhile I will create a couple vms with different configs like one with windows and lubuntu dual boot, one with encryption, one with both dual boot and encryption, etc. And note how the installer works in each case. It would also be useful for future testing  but might take some time tho.
[19:04] <Jonopoly> Anyone know how i cana find out why my laptop is running hotter idle
[19:04] <Jonopoly> with lubuntu 19.04 than windows 10
[19:04] <wxl> how are you sure it's running hotter?
[19:05] <Jonopoly> Because i can feel warmth on laptop Around enter Key
[19:05] <wxl> but you actually haven't measured the temperature of the cpu. knowing the difference would be helpful
[19:06] <Jonopoly> if i run sensors i'm getting 61c on idle
[19:06] <Jonopoly> well, just with firefox running
[19:06] <Jonopoly> pch_cannonlake-virtual-0Adapter: Virtual devicetemp1:        +61.0°C
[19:08] <wxl> virtual device? you running a vm?
[19:11] <Jonopoly> Dual booting atm
[19:12] <wxl> why is it a virtual adapter? that's strange
[19:12] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, you could run: sudo powertop and use tab key to go to he device stats and see which one has 100%.
[19:13] <Jonopoly> diogenes_: Okay will do
[19:15] <Jonopoly> there are quite a few.. 100%s
[19:17] <diogenes_> look for something unusual like usb camera or some device that you are not using but it still uses 100%
[19:17] <Jonopoly> https://pastebin.com/pp71Tdzz
[19:20] <diogenes_> oh there is a lot of them.
[19:21] <Jonopoly> yeah.. feels quite strange
[19:21] <diogenes_> pastebin the output of: inxi -F
[19:22] <Jonopoly> just installing
[19:23] <Jonopoly> diogenes_ https://pastebin.com/3MUThgEU
[19:26] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, and the output of: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[19:26] <diogenes_> paste here in the chat because it's one line.
[19:27] <Jonopoly> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 1060/PCIe/SSE2
[19:28] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, that's the problem.
[19:28] <Jonopoly> ??
[19:29] <diogenes_> you've got an optimus machine which is designed to run intel gpu (which is power efficient) for basic stuff and only use nvidia with heavy 3d demanding stuff.
[19:29] <diogenes_> but you switch to nvidia full time and it's heating the motherboard.
[19:30] <Jonopoly> Ah okay that's kinda cool
[19:30] <Jonopoly> so its basically only using nvidia gpu when needed? so like games etc..
[19:31] <diogenes_> because on windows when you install nvidia drivers, your nvidia gou is sleeping and autoswitching when needed.
[19:31] <diogenes_> on linux it's a different story.
[19:31] <diogenes_> you need to switch it manually when needed.
[19:31] <diogenes_> but with PRIME you can switch it full time and that's no good.
[19:32] <Jonopoly> diogenes_: Thanks, is it possible to fix?
[19:33] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, for testing purpose open your nvidia settings, go to prime, switch to intel integrated, reboot and check the temp.
[19:33] <diogenes_> see if you get a lower at idle.
[19:34] <Jonopoly> diogenes_: Okay gotta logout and relogin to check - one moment
[19:35] <Jonopoly> 54 atm.. which is lower than usual
[19:42] <Jonopoly> It's 52c atm
[19:42] <Jonopoly> which is nice
[19:42] <Jonopoly> woah now it's 50.0c
[19:43] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, yeah that was the issue.
[19:43] <Jonopoly> diogenes_: Thank you, I guess i can just keep it in powersave mode as i won't be gaming on this
[19:44] <diogenes_> Jonopoly, you've got 3 choices:
[19:44] <diogenes_> 1) leave it like that and switch to nvidia when you really have to (gaming, encoding< video editing etc.)
[19:45] <diogenes_> 2) use bumblbee and switch to nvidia card with optirun <application name> command
[19:45] <diogenes_> 3) uninstall nvidia and try with the native nouveau driver.
[19:46] <Jonopoly> hmm I think 1 is safest to do
[19:46] <Jonopoly> I only use my Linux OS for dev
[19:47] <Jonopoly> Java, Mobile and Python so don't really need to be running performance mode
[19:47] <diogenes_> then you're good to leave it as is.
[19:48] <Jonopoly> it is safe to leave it right?
[19:49] <diogenes_> yes
[22:51] <jr> boa noite.
[23:09] <chieta> hello from 19.04
[23:09] <chieta> is there any lxqt alt for xbacklight command
[23:10] <chieta> i want to set the specific brightness after booting
[23:11] <sappheiros> apparently falkon is kde ... is firefox the recommended browser for lubuntu 18.10?
[23:11] <sappheiros> is kde a competitor of lxqt?
[23:15] <chieta> is there any kde agenda here?
[23:28] <sappheiros> what do you mean?
 afaik not only kde supported chieta
 @sappheiros [<sappheiros> apparently falkon is kde ... is firefox the recommended browser for …], i wish the FF will be the first candidate always
[23:39] <sappheiros> lubot: shiboncip why? falkon seems faster than firefox for lubuntu 18.10, although it seems now to be crashing more ...
[23:52] <sappheiros> ugh, 31 minutes to upgrade 19 packages due to a 1 Mbps Internet :(