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-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: thunar-volman 0.9.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-thunar-volman-0-9-3-released-tp54391.html (by André Miranda)00:57
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: tumbler 0.2.5 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-tumbler-0-2-5-released-tp54393.html (by André Miranda)01:04
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-appfinder 4.13.4 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-appfinder-4-13-4-released-tp54396.html (by André Miranda)01:23
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfdesktop 4.13.5 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfdesktop-4-13-5-released-tp54401.html (by André Miranda)02:32
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-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfwm4 4.13.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfwm4-4-13-3-released-tp54407.html (by Olivier Fourdan)15:03
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-screensaver 0.1.6 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-screensaver-0-1-6-released-tp54408.html (by Sean Davis-6)15:14
bluesabreGoing to upload the new xfce4-screensaver, then replace light-locker with it15:21
bluesabreSo, if xubuntu-team currently has 8 members, does a vote require +4 or +5 to move along?15:35
Eickmeyerbluesabre: Is there any configuration in the defaults that has to be done to enable that, or will it happen automagically?16:29
EickmeyerAsking for a friend.16:29
bluesabreEickmeyer: should just require an update to the seed. You'll likely also want https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=650fd90df8d1e3e7b15fd789907fa47e9e2f68e516:39
bluesabreooooooooooh16:41
bluesabreUnit193: can you upload the screensaver? Since it's not in the seed, I can't upload it >.<16:41
Eickmeyerbluesabre: ack, I'lll take a look and change our settings likewise. 16:42
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Replace light-locker with xfce4-screensaver, sort packages (core) @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=217489d90a1324b6ee94c90bee82e0e2e5cb3f84 (by Sean Davis)16:47
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Release xubuntu-default-settings 19.10.1 @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=330b4f01e6da3ca01f5c180e2419d8ebc955c016 (by Sean Davis)17:25
Unit193bluesabre: BTW, with xfce4-screensaver's last update, I no longer know how to have the screensaver daemon running, but only lock on request. :/17:45
bluesabreUnit193: Lock Screen tab, turn the first option on "Enable Lock Screen", and turn "Lock Screen with Screensaver" and "Lock Screen  with System Sleep" off17:47
bluesabreIf it locks with those 2 settings, it's a bug :D17:47
bluesabreoh, and Xfce Power Manager also has some locking settings that might be up to no go17:48
bluesabreod17:48
Unit193That's what I have, even went so far as turning 'Activate screensaver when computer is idle' off.17:49
bluesabrexfpm's "Lock screen when system is going to sleep" is synchronized with xs17:49
bluesabrehm17:49
Unit193I could go back to .4, but that doesn't help anyone. :317:50
bluesabrecould launch "xfce4-screensaver --debug" to collect useful output17:50
Unit193OK17:50
Unit193I'm presuming I don't need to restart the daemon to activate changes?17:51
bluesabreCorrect17:51
Unit193Considering it's when the screen goes to sleep (IIRC, blank doesn't trigger it.  Might be wrong.)17:52
bluesabreI'll also check it out18:01
Unit193Do you have a dsc for me to sponsor, or should I just grab it?18:01
Unit193Also: Do we intend to still support light-locker or no?18:02
Unit193PPS: light-locker and xfce4-screensaver will both end up installed for upgraders.18:03
bluesabrehmmm18:03
bluesabreUnit193: https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring/+sourcefiles/xfce4-screensaver/0.1.6-0ubuntu1/xfce4-screensaver_0.1.6-0ubuntu1.dsc18:05
bluesabreUnit193: what would you suggest on that? Should I make xss aware of light-locker and do something about it, or should we do some package not co-installable thing?18:06
bluesabreactually, might not be a major problem based on how xflock4 works18:09
bluesabreif multiple screensavers are installed, it tries until it finds one of: user preference, xss, others18:10
brainwashand in the other cases when xflock4 is not used?18:11
Unit193https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-release-upgrader/trunk/view/head:/data/DistUpgrade.cfg#L64 ?18:11
bluesabreUnit193: don't think I've ever seen that file, but that seems like a possibility18:13
Unit193Thought we did something like that for indicator-power?18:15
bluesabrehttps://xubuntu.org/news/14-10-release/18:17
bluesabre"Note: Upgraders from Trusty will not see the new xfce4-power-manager panel plugin by default, but instead stick to indicator-power. This can easily be resolved by uninstalling indicator-power and adding the “Power Manager Plugin” to the panel."18:17
bluesabreDIY :D18:17
Unit193Perhaps we should ask to ensure this is the right place, but yea.18:19
bluesabreAsked in -release18:26
Eickmeyerbluesabre: I just added xfce4-screensaver to our seed, but I can't add the fix to the live session (separate repo, in fact, still in bzr) as I don't have access to the complete packageset yet. The only person who does just went on a 4-week vacation and will be incommunicado.19:49
bluesabreEickmeyer: that just means your live session will be lockable (either with timeout or by asking the computer to lock)19:52
flocculantbluesabre: just fyi - I'd played about with -screensaver a while back and gave up - only way I could stop it doing anything - which is what I wanted was to have power plugin permanently on presentation mode20:21
bluesabreflocculant: good to know. I'll do some deep testing this week to make sure it works as expected20:23
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-session 4.13.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-session-4-13-3-released-tp54418.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)21:07
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: libxfce4util 4.13.4 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-libxfce4util-4-13-4-released-tp54420.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)21:17
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-settings 4.13.7 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-settings-4-13-7-released-tp54422.html (by Sean Davis-6)21:17
flocculantbluesabre: okey doke - if you're changing seed - will installing it uninstall light-locker?21:27
flocculantI assume I'll see something in updates21:27
bluesabreflocculant: currently no, working on a solution for that21:28
flocculantok - well I might chuck light-locker and install -screensaver tomorrow and see what it's like now21:28
flocculantwith a PC - I don't really want then to do anything 21:29
flocculantif I want the screen off - I turn it off lol21:29
bluesabre:D21:29
flocculantI'll check it out and let you know what I find here anyway 21:30
bluesabreI have a monitor with a broken capacitative button... turning it off means unplugging it :)21:30
* flocculant toddles off again21:30
bluesabrethanks flocculant 21:30
flocculantbluesabre: reboot at wall ... those were the days ha ha 21:30
bluesabre:)21:32
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: libxfce4ui 4.13.6 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-libxfce4ui-4-13-6-released-tp54424.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)21:36
knomeso apparently lubuntu is taking donations now21:38
Unit193Oh dear...21:40
ochosidirectly?21:40
ochosii thought that wasn't allowed or something21:40
knomehttps://lubuntu.me/donate-to-lubuntu/21:40
knomedirectly, yes21:40
Unit193Uploading xfce4-screensaver_0.1.6-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.22:03
Unit193bluesabre: "Can we get more votes from the team?"  I had a -1, but it was over IRC.22:07
bluesabreUnit193: thanks, just need even more :D22:09
Unit193:322:10
bluesabreSince more folks are around now... with a team of 8, what's a passed team vote? 4 or 5 +1's?22:10
bluesabreUnit193: mind if I upload exo 0.12.6 (and break sync)?22:11
Unit193bluesabre: I presume the break is just 'new upstream'?  If so, that's what I've been doing, sure.22:11
bluesabreyeah22:12
Unit193http://www.rulesonline.com/rror-11.htm#64 "The quorum of any other deliberative assembly with an enrolled membership is a majority of all the members." which is 5.22:16
bluesabreawesome, thanks22:18
Unit193http://www.rulesonline.com/rror-08.htm for voting.22:19
ochosiregarding the whole kb-shortcuts discussion, i'd go for pushing as much as meaningful upstream to xfce22:22
bluesabreI'm open to that... but who do I run that by in upstream?22:25
bluesabreEverybody contributing to -settings in x timeframe?22:25
ochosisure22:26
ochosiif it's just adding stuff i think that's easily acceptable22:26
ochosiit's more about changing existing stuff that may provoke reactions22:27
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-panel 4.13.6 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-panel-4-13-6-released-tp54427.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)22:28
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: garcon 0.6.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-garcon-0-6-3-released-tp54429.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)22:34
jphilipzjust curious when Ctrl+Alt+D was introduced and then replaced by Super+D for show desktop, as i dont have it in 18.04 or in the 19.10 daily i installed on the 23rd22:35
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-power-manager 1.6.3 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-power-manager-1-6-3-released-tp54432.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)22:47
bluesabreUnit193, flocculant: confirmed the behavior you described, will dig in and resolve22:56
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: Xfce 4.14pre2 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-Xfce-4-14pre2-released-tp54434.html (by Simon Steinbeiss)22:59

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