[00:11] <CrazyLikeAFox> Oh blah, I broke that install, that's rather strange though
[00:12] <CrazyLikeAFox> I removed a drive that would be mounted as /storage, and had no info of any consequence on it, and replaced it with another drive
[00:12] <CrazyLikeAFox> Grub still works fine as expected, but the system will ony boot into a recovery shell now
[00:13] <CrazyLikeAFox> I seem to recall older versions would just give me the option to skip mounting non-extant, but not needed for the os, drives/partitions instead of refusing to proceed
[00:14] <rigel_> I'm having some trouble printing to my HP DeskJet 2130 with the command `lpr -P DeskJet_2130 -o page-set=all <filename>` which exits with non-error code 0, but /var/log/cups_error_log has this line
[00:15] <rigel_> E: [Job id] Unable to send raster data to the driver
[00:17] <CrazyLikeAFox> Is there an easy method to force it to ignore the missing drive?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> rigel_: Update the driver ? Is the printer on this list: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/06/hplip-3-19-6-more-hp-printers-scanners-support/ ?
[00:19] <rigel_> Bashing-om: no, it's not
[00:19] <rigel_> HPLIP shows  HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.17.10)  and  HP Device Manager ver. 15.0
[00:20] <Bashing-om> rigel_: Well, was a thought .. as then to the error. I am not qualified to give an opinion :(
[00:20] <rigel_> sucks. thanks for trying, Bashing-om :/
[00:20] <Bashing-om> rigel_: Await those here who do have that experience :)
[00:34] <rigel_> i'd like it noted that the printer works perfectly in conjunction with a windows 10 laptop
[00:36] <fleabeard> will using dd to copy one hdd to another require me to partition/format that 2nd hard drive? Or will using dd to copy the image over wipe the drive for me?
[00:37] <rigel_> the second thing, fleabeard
[00:37] <fleabeard> thanks, rigel_
[00:38] <rigel_> dd writes directly over the raw stream of the disk, including it's partition tables and whatever there is
[00:38] <rigel_> but i think it also changes depending on whether you write to something like /dev/sdb (a device) or /dev/sdb1 (a partition)
[00:43] <fleabeard> good to know!
[00:58] <fleabeard> so, how would I expand this dd image to fit the 2nd; larger hard drive once I dd it over?
[01:04] <fleabeard> that's a bit word salad of me..
[01:31] <StupidLikeAFox> How do I go about removing the drive mounted as /storage from my fstab so the sytem doesn't flip when I unplug it again?
[01:38] <Bashing-om> StupidLikeAFox: Works for me ' sudo umount /mnt/storage/ ' where the mount point is in the "/mnt" directory .
[01:39] <StupidLikeAFox> Bashing-om: it's just as '/storage', but my problem is the sytem is looking for it at boot and not finding it
[01:40] <StupidLikeAFox> For some reason, I never received an option to skip the missing partition and it was refusing to do anything besides a recovery shell
[01:41] <Bashing-om> StupidLikeAFox: "at boot" suggests mounting is done in /etc/fstab . Paste the file and we have a look at how to manually UN-mount :)
[01:42] <StupidLikeAFox> Bashing-om: yeah, I setup the drive's mount point when installing xubuntu
[01:42] <StupidLikeAFox> I just find it really odd it won't let me procede anyways- one of machines had that error for a long time after I purged windows from it
[01:45] <Bashing-om> StupidLikeAFox: Depends on what the kernel is looking for when the partition (file system) is non-existent.
[01:47] <StupidLikeAFox> unmounted it, used gparted to figure out what /dev/ it was, got the uuid eee79c45-e59f-432c-9b07-38c2019f59ee
[01:48] <fleabeard> so I just cloned my 500gb hdd to my 1tb hdd. Any ideas how I can expand the remaining fs on that 1tb drive so it's usable space?
[01:48] <StupidLikeAFox> now to find that in my fstab..
[01:48] <DUKENUKEM> has anyone ever used one of those AOC usb monitors?
[01:48] <DUKENUKEM> so frustrating, it works with xfce, but on awesomewm i cant figure out why it doesnt work. it shows up in xrandr and all that jazz
[01:49] <DUKENUKEM> would anyone have any ideas off the top of their head to check regarding xfce doing everything for you vs awesome you do everything yourself that i may be forgetting?
[01:50] <DUKENUKEM> the monitor comes on and mirrors fine, but setting it to a side of my actual screen shows a blank screen. can move my mouse to it, but the image is stuck as blank. i know this question is highly specific, just wondering if anyone had any ideas
[01:52] <Bashing-om> StupidLikeAFox: " cloned my 500gb " You are aware that a UUID is meant to be a Unique identifier, If both drives are mounted then the UUIDs are no longer unique, and the kernel is going to have serious issues :P
[01:53] <StupidLikeAFox> Bashing-om: I'm removing a drive from my system, and not trying to mount a different one where it was
[01:54] <StupidLikeAFox> one last thing to clean up, the /storage folder being used as it's mount point is now ...pointless
[01:55] <fleabeard> Bashing-om, I think that was meant for me? :) Here was my fdisk -l prior to using dd > https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YBg9s28pWz/
[01:56] <Bashing-om> fleabeard: Yeah . looking :)
[01:57] <fleabeard> Bashing-om, I used sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1 -and- sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb2 respectively
[01:57] <StupidLikeAFox> Ohh, disregard
[01:57] <StupidLikeAFox> I'm using two computers and some beer at once <.<
[01:59] <fleabeard> I've been partaking in the devil's lettuce myself, StupidLikeAFox ;)
[02:02] <Bashing-om> fleabeard: As of now the system partition on the 2nd hard drive is taking up all the available space "/dev/sdb2  1050624 1953523711 1952473088  931G". Waayyy too much space just for the OS. What is it that you have in mind ?
[02:03] <fleabeard> Bashing-om, the sda 500gb is my plex media server
[02:03] <fleabeard> so it's nearly full of media
[02:04] <fleabeard> this new 1tb drive (sdb) used to have another distro on it but I didn't care to lose it since I wanted the bigger drive for my media server
[02:05] <fleabeard> I was told to clone the 500gb with dd, then resize the image to fit the bigger drive, then re-install grub
[02:15] <Bashing-om> fleabeard: Presently then, I do not see an issue with sdb, Is it mountable as is ( with sda NOT connected ) ?
[02:20] <mplsjoker> I think I may have 'rm -rf' the wrong thing on accident cause now applications like steam wont connect to the internet. When I did sudo apt reinstall steam it returned this 'dpkg: error: unable to create new file '/var/lib/dpkg/info/format-new': No such file or directoryE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:23] <Bashing-om> mplsjoker: ' ls -al /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ' has a positive output ?
[02:51] <fleabeard> change of plans, I used gparted to wipe my 1tb drive and it's showing up in ubuntu as /dev/sdb1 and is formatted as ext4. Do I have to like, mount it or something in order to start transferring files to it?
[02:51] <SwedeMike> fleabeard: yes.
[02:52] <fleabeard> SwedeMike, thanks, I'll look into how to do that now :)
[02:54] <SwedeMike> fleabeard: ubuntu might automount it under /media though
[02:55] <fleabeard> it didn't, I managed to mount it though :)
[02:59] <rigel_> how do i fix `E: [Job id] Unable to send raster data to the driver` in /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[03:04] <deltab> rigel_: that's a somewhat vague message; you probably need more detail than that to fix it
[03:04] <deltab> anything else in the log about it?
[03:05] <deltab> if not, is there a config setting to increase the verbosity?
[03:06] <deltab> if that doesn't help, my tendency would be to attach strace and look for error codes
[03:09] <rigel_> hang on, deltab
[03:12] <rigel_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rtn7BSdqx6/
[03:13] <rigel_> i connect with the backend through lp, and lp exits successfully, adding it to the print queue
[03:14] <deltab> notice the line before
[03:14] <deltab> "prnt/backend/hp.c 824: ERROR: open device failed stat=12" etc.
[03:14] <rigel_> but scanning from the same device works
[03:22] <deltab> try a search for that message
[03:49] <rigel_> deltab: i found a bug report on launchpad from 2011 that's still unassigned and marked in progress
[05:37] <Kartha> hi
[05:37] <Kartha> i am on windows currently
[05:40] <Kartha> if i install .iso file, how do I run it?
[05:40] <Kartha> i don't have any storage devices
[05:43] <Spookan> Do you want to keep Windows?
[05:44] <ryuo> Kartha: you don't actually install this ISO... it's intended to be booted. it needs to be burnt to optical media or written to an external USB drive.
[05:45] <ryuo> Kartha: if none of those are options...
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Kartha: Make up a DVD/USB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto - http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-window .
[05:47] <Kartha> Spookan It's genuine windows I can't afford to lose it
[05:48] <Kartha> my laptop does not have dvd drive
[05:48] <Kartha> i do not have spare usb stick
[05:48] <Kartha> any application to boot iso on windows? not sure where to ask.
[05:48] <ryuo> Kartha: then you're pretty much out of options. that's the standard options for reinstalling windows as well.
[05:49] <ryuo> anything else requires specialty devices like my iodd2531...
[05:49] <Spookan> Kartha: Use a VM then..
[05:51] <Kartha> Spookan is ubuntu on vmware less featureful than if i do actual install?
[06:02] <august_9000> vm = virtual machine (a software computer). an operating system would operate as expected
[06:02] <elias_a> Kartha: No it is not. Only the possible limitations of virtualization platform (eg vmware) may set limitations.
[06:03] <blackflow> Kartha: and by that they mean you probably won't get equal gaming experience due to virtualized GPU hardware, but otherwise it's the same.
[06:08] <Kartha> blackflow no games on ubuntu better than pc, but how much space i need give?
[06:08] <Kartha> ram 1gb and storage 1 gb enough?
[06:11] <elias_a> No, definately not. Is this a joke?
[06:12] <elias_a> Depends on what you do and whether you use dynamical virtual disk partition or not.
[06:19] <blackflow> Kartha: I wouldn't go below 20GB storage and 4GB RAM, but it depends on what you're gonna use it for.
[06:21] <Kartha> blackflow I just want php, is 4gb ram enough?
[06:25] <blackflow> Kartha: sure, and probably more than enough. But it being RAM, you can always adjust it later. For server edition and "just PHP", I'd start with 2GB and reconfigure for more later should it become needed.
[06:26] <blackflow> Kartha: and this assumes you're installing the server edition. For desktop edition, no matter what you use, I'd still recommend at least 4G. Default GNOME installation tends to be memory hungry, especially if you start using desktop applications in it.
[06:28] <Kartha> blackflow has anyone ever tried to strip ubuntu to its basic functions.
[06:28] <Kartha> like i imagine take all the gui out of windows, the remaining would be ms-dos bare bones
[06:28] <OerHeks> Kartha, there is a minimal option in the installer
[06:28] <Kartha> OerHeks how big is that?
[06:29] <OerHeks> *desktop installer
[06:29] <Kartha> is there any version in the 100mb range?
[06:31] <OerHeks> you want the smallest server, i just read back .. no, kernel 2.6 was larger than that, 437 mb
[06:31] <blackflow> Kartha: sure, I install Ubuntu only like that -- from debootstrap -- which is most minimal as it can get, the build up on it.
[06:32] <Kartha> blackflow thank you for your understanding, I will try loading that into oracle vm virtualbox
[06:33] <blackflow> Kartha: debootstrap? No, you'll need a running debian based distro ideally, to do that. debootstrap is a package you use for chroot based installations.
[06:33] <blackflow> just use the regular installer. use server edition if you don't need the desktop.
[06:33] <Kartha> which is the lightest distro?
[06:34] <blackflow> Kartha: lightest in what way? Also note that lightest = fewest functions by default, which almost always translates to expert systems you need skills to set up and us.
[06:34] <blackflow> *use
[06:35] <Kartha> lol, obviously least storage space and memory requirements
[06:35] <Kartha> i would love to be expert
[06:35] <Kartha> lol
[06:38] <blackflow> frankly I don't know how small you can get with storage space for default installations these days, with disks in two-digit terabyte ranges these days I'm not paying attention. For Ubuntu you'll need at least 2GB for non-desktop edition, but I'd never go below 5G, if anything then due to default inode-to-size ratio for the default ext4 filesystem. That's storage. For RAM, start with 512MB for server
[06:38] <blackflow> edition and see if you'll need to up that number later. You can adjust RAM, but not storage space easily.
[06:42] <cupcake90> How can I install it in 2GB minimal install also asking atleast 8GB even vagrant boxes are 6GB or more
[06:44] <blackflow> cupcake90: what is asking at least 8G
[06:44] <cupcake90> kvm
[06:44] <blackflow> you'll have to be more precise than that. kvm is a kernel module
[06:44] <cupcake90> No its default settings I think
[06:45] <cupcake90> Yeah I mean ubuntu minimal install on kvm asking for 8G on my system as default
[06:45] <blackflow> cupcake90: desktop edition?
[06:47] <cupcake90> blackflow: No its minimal no gui
[06:48] <blackflow> cupcake90: So the installer for the server edition is refusing to install on less than 8GB of disk space?
[06:50] <cupcake90> blackflow: No it is asking for the space, I mean never tried lower than that to be honest
[06:51] <blackflow> Basic debootstrap'd installations I do on the servers end up at ~1.6GB, so 2GB is like the hard lowest limit, but I wouldn't go below 5G anyway due to inode count.
[06:51] <cupcake90> blackflow: well thanks I will try 5G :)
[06:53] <blackflow> cupcake90: with qemu virtualization you can create dynamic disks and give it 10, 20GB if you want. the actual filesize will be only what's actually used by the guest.
[06:54] <blackflow> I'm pretty sure Virtualbox and VMWare can do the same, I just don't have that much experience with those.
[06:57] <cupcake90> blackflow: Yeah i use dynamic disks most of the time but sometimes need actual space allocation
[06:58] <blackflow> cupcake90: not sure what you mean. the guest has no idea the underlying disk image is dynamic. it sees only the storage space "promise" made creating the dynamic disk image.
[06:59] <cupcake90> ok
[07:16] <elias_a> blackflow: Virtualbox can handle dynamic disks.
[07:49] <export> okay i'm officially back, no more reboots to do.
[07:52] <export> the pi has successfully updated, doing quite well
[08:35] <ace_me> creating a large zip file fail on server but works locally... any hint please ?
[08:44] <Tuor> Free space left, filesystem (example fat has max 4GB file size)
[09:33] <baako> hi guys anyone know of any browser whicb VPN for ubuntu desktop?
[09:42] <spinningCat> i supoosed there is off topic channel ubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <Orbstheorem> Hello ! I wonder why pdftk was never ported to bionic but is present in xenial and cosmic...
[09:57] <baako> User::all(['first_name']); this returns has a json format e.g. {"first_name":"Mark"} i am just expecting Mark
[09:57] <geirha> Orbstheorem: It was probably no longer maintained. I see the cosmic package is a java port, where the one in xenial was written in C
[09:59] <Orbstheorem> Oh
[09:59] <Orbstheorem> very well
[10:00] <Orbstheorem> So I'd be okay if I backport the java package to bionic ?
[10:00] <geirha> Orbstheorem: Hm, not quite. I see the latest sources, from 2013, is a mix of c++ and java. I'm guessing someone decided to port it to pure java, and maintain it too
[10:01] <Orbstheorem> So I should get in contact with the cosmic maintainer ?
[10:02] <Orbstheorem> It's the same person ^^
[10:02] <geirha> Orbstheorem: They have a ppa for older releases: https://gitlab.com/pdftk-java/pdftk
[10:10] <acebrianjuan> Hi folks
[10:11] <acebrianjuan> Where are the libraries installed in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <acebrianjuan> Like where are the libraries header files stored?
[10:12] <acebrianjuan> Thank you
[10:15] <acebrianjuan> I found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/17545/where-does-ubuntu-store-its-library-files
[10:19] <ryouba> hi!
[10:19] <ryouba> is there a way to have ubuntu offer a DHCP server on the ethernet port? i don't need connection sharing, just that another computer connected to the ethernet port can get an IP and i can see somewhere which one it got.
[10:36] <tdm4> hi - is it possible for keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg to have different "trust" levels? I have two 18.04 machines.. one constantly wants to import a repo key (host A), and the other doesn't (host B). If I copy Host B's /etc/apt/trusted.gpg to Host A.. problem goes away. How do I look at the trusted status of keys in that file? apt-key adv doesn't seem to let me do anything useful.
[10:38] <tdm4> apt-key list on both hosts shows the key to be in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg but no extra info beyond that
[11:18] <tdm4> anyone know how I do a gpg --export-ownertrust on keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ?
[11:19] <willksm> tdm4, apt-key list
[11:20] <tdm4> willksm: yeah the key's listed in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
[11:20] <tdm4> but there's not really enough useful info
[11:21] <willksm> tdm4: what do you want to know?
[11:21] <tdm4> I wanted to run --export-ownertrust on the key
[11:22] <tdm4> so I could check the trust settings
[11:22] <tdm4> --check-sigs is identical on both machines
[11:43] <ace_me> where should I find in logs whom or when a process was killed by something on the machine... I suspect php run by apache is killed after a certain amount of time
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:59] <tds> ace_me - for oom kills, dmesg
[12:07] <ace_me> tds: what firewall should I look for under redhat ?
[12:08] <ace_me> I know on csf was something which killed user whatever if process took longer than xx seconds
[12:26] <wasanzy> I have upgraded a package that I think the version is not comptible with some of my apps. I want to revert to the old version but I forgot the previous version, how do I do that?
[12:30] <ioria> wasanzy, maybe if you tell us what's the pkg, the ubuntu version and how did you upgrade it, we might help
[12:31] <wasanzy> ubuntu 18.08, nginx
[12:31] <wasanzy> I did apt-get install nginx
[12:31] <ioria> wasanzy, apt-cache policy nginx  | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:32] <wasanzy> https://termbin.com/zxwn
[12:33] <wasanzy> I did this first  add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable
[12:33] <ioria> wasanzy, if yo uwant the repo version, you need to purge the ppa and install again from the official repository
[12:34] <wasanzy> I want to remove it
[12:34] <wasanzy> how do I purge the ppa?
[12:34] <ioria> !info ppa-purge | wasanzy
[12:35] <ioria> wasanzy, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/02/newbie-guide-how-to-use-ppa-purge.html
[12:36] <wasanzy> apt-add-repository --remove this works as well right?
[12:37] <ioria> wasanzy, probably
[12:38] <ioria> wasanzy, but remove the pkg, first
[12:38] <wasanzy> ok
[12:38] <wasanzy> I hope that will not delete my configs
[12:38] <wasanzy> apt-get remove package
[12:39] <pragmaticenigma> wasanzy: It would be wise to back those up... no?
[12:39] <wasanzy> I did anyway
[12:48] <wasanzy> thank you all. problem solved
[13:17] <howudodat> I have a question about network manager UIs.  I suspect I am running into an issue where different network managers are actually being used for my config, my config is simple 3 interfaces vnet0, vnet1 and en2  they are all part of vbridge1.  the gnome system tray only shows en02 with a ?.  Network settings doesn't show any of the interfaces.  nm-connection-manager shows the cards and an older bridge that I'm not using anymore, /netw
[13:17] <howudodat> ork/interfaces shows everything as does brctl  (btw, is there a pastebin for images?)
[13:20] <pragmaticenigma> !paste | howudodat
[13:24] <howudodat> here's a screenshot that shows all the different managers looking at the interfaces: https://imgur.com/a/pctZZGH
[13:37] <ice9> whats the best ubuntu 18.04 repo for php71?
[13:37] <tdm4> Anyone know how to fix constantly dropping wifi on 18.04 + ath10k + QCA9377? (Kernel 4.15.0-54-generic)
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> ice9: PPA's are not recommended. This channel focuses its support on only the official Ubuntu repositories that are installed from the ISO's provided from Canonical
[13:38] <tdm4> wifi drops between seconds & minutes at a time.. I guess ath10k driver is buggy as hell :(
[13:38] <ice9> pragmaticenigma, yeah but i need specific php version that's why
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: did you test previous kernels yet?
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> !latest | ice9
[13:39] <tdm4> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure when/where it started breaking
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: thats what you can try to find out, do some testing
[13:39] <tdm4> lotuspsychje: would help if I knew which kernel versions to try
[13:39] <tdm4> and when/if someone changed something in the driver
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: if you are now on -54 just try a previous one as a test at grub
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> ice9: If you're writting an application to target a version of PHP, you should consider development targeting a version that most people will have available. If you are trying to use an already built application, see if that project already exists in the Ubuntu repositories. Or contact the developer to find out if there is a version taht supports an earlier version of PHP
[13:40] <tdm4> lotuspsychje: only previous one I have is -52
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: that would be a test already
[13:42] <jwalp> hi , i have ubuntu server , and i mount other os , how can install it using the terminal ?
[13:44] <tdm4> lotuspsychje: well I can't test it now.. machine is currently remote :)
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: its reccomended if you have issues with ubuntu, you have direct access to it, so volunteers can try to help you a better way
[13:46] <tdm4> lotuspsychje: linux-image-4.15.0-54-generic corresponds to which 4.15 release?
[13:47] <tdm4> 4.15.18 seems to be the latest 4.15 release
[13:47] <tdm4> (19th April 2018?)
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> current^
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: something else you could try, is to install the HWE kernel 4.18 and see if your wifi performs better there
[13:50] <tdm4> that's from bionic?
[13:50] <tdm4> or a later one?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> !hwe | tdm4
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: if i was you, i would test systematic, first different 4.15 kernels to compare as tests
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> tdm4: investigate your dmesg etc
[13:52] <tdm4> thanks I'll give that a shot
[13:52] <tdm4> I'll try previous 4.15 kernels first
[13:52] <tdm4> then try 4.18
[13:52] <tdm4> thanks lotuspsychje :)
[14:23] <howudodat> on ubuntu 18.04, there appears to be at least 4 ways to create bridge interfaces: interfaces, nmcli, nm-connection-editor, systemd-networkd.  Is there a discussion of advantages of one over another?  There seem to be major UI incompatibilities (ie: brctl doesn't show what nm-connection-editor shows)
[14:35] <howudodat> is there a preferred way that integrates with gnome-shell including network status indicators?
[14:37] <Realjuan> Is it recommended to switch to 19.04 now? I just started, and thought the 18.04 would be better.
[14:38] <Realjuan> I just started with linux/ubuntu. Windows user here, and the easiest version
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: the users choice between lts & non-lts
[14:40] <Realjuan> lotuspsychje I am just trying it out, so not exactly committed to long term relationship. 9months of 19.04 would be okay, if its better experience than 18.04.
[14:41] <Realjuan> I been having problem setting 2 displays in 18.04 and I was told to switch to 19.04 because it has more features. I was not expecting something so "normal" would give me this problems.
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: better is kind of relative, lts is more stable, non-lts newer
[14:42] <Vuurdraak> hi everybody, i have an entry for a drive in my fstab that mounts it as accisible only for root, but ubuntu somehow auto mount it in a 2nd place as accible for everybody which is not what i want , i dont understand why its mounted a 2nd time under /media
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[14:43] <Realjuan> integrated i7-4710HQ or something like that. Its a lenovo y50-70 (the nvidia stop working a while ago)
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: what do you mean stop working?
[14:45] <Realjuan> Never found the answer. Had to switch it off from BIOS, did all possible updates, re-installs of drivers, and after a few seconds of login into windows I would get a blue screen error.
[14:46] <Realjuan> Its been a few years already, and the error was really annoying since it was hard to even get into windows to disable the graphics card.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: is it an optimus nvidia/intel?
[14:47] <Realjuan> what do you means with optimus? Its an intel i7 with an NVIDIA graphic cards + the integraded one.
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: sudo lshw -C video please?
[14:48] <Realjuan> -display                        description: VGA compatible controller       product: 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller       vendor: Intel Corporation       physical id: 2       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0       version: 06       width: 64 bits       clock: 33MHz       capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
[14:48] <Realjuan>       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0       resources: irq:32 memory:b0000000-b03fffff memory:a0000000-afffffff ioport:4000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: do you dualboot? uefi settings block your nvidia perhaps?
[14:51] <Realjuan> I only used windows before.
[14:51] <Realjuan> Someone block that cards from the bios, because if I started the computer with it. I would get an error saying instruction error, and then I would have to restart.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: can you pastebin your dmesg please?
[14:56] <Realjuan> lotuspsychje We talking about the graphic cards? It used to be stop code; VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR on windows, but like I said I disable it a year or more ago. I just have a picture of it.
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: you saying it break?
[14:58] <Realjuan> No, it just stop working once. We open the computer, clean vents, and didnt see anything that look burn or anything. still couldnt get it back to work. it used to be a GeForcce GTX860M and got error code from lenovo diagnostics WVC000000-HN0Y9K
[15:01] <Realjuan> It doesnt matter. I will switch computer in the near future. I just wanted to be able to use 2 displays with the integrated graphic cards only. You think this is not possible?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: your gtx is an optimus, so i wouldnt be surprised your dual screen issue is due to that, reccomended is to install the nvidia driver on an optimus card
[15:02] <Realjuan> does it matter if the graphic card is not enable from the BIOS?
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Realjuan: that installs nvidia-prime so you can switch the settings from intel (powersaving) to nvidia(performance mode)
[15:09] <Realjuan> lotuspsychje my computer will not detected the nvidia since its not enable from the motherboard.
[15:10] <Realjuan> I suppose I could enable it and see, but normally it will just crash my computer. either just after reboot or few seconds after.
[15:11] <Realjuan> be right bback
[15:25] <tomreyn> realjuan: i would expect the nvidia chip not to get in the way if it's disabled in bios and linux doesn't detect it, which seemed to be the case when you posted the lspci command output.
[15:26] <tomreyn> you're saying that you'd like to run the intel integrated graphics with multiple monitors. are there any external ports which are wired to the internal (not the nvidia chipset), though?
[15:26] <realjuan> tomreyn That what I would expect. I am able to use 2 displays in windows, so I thought it wouldnt be a problem in linux. Can I paste a url to my post in askubuntu?
[15:26] <tomreyn> yes
[15:26] <realjuan> https://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screens
[15:27] <Sysifoss> Hello, I am trying to dual boot my win10 system. I have two harddrives. The first has windows OS and the rest is used for storage I made a small partition for linux on the second drive and installed there but the BIOS doesnt recognize the second drive as bootable and when booting the first drive grub doesnt show up.
[15:27] <Sysifoss> I figure I made some rookie mistake doing this like neglecting to tell grub to insall on the first drive but is there a way to get in and fix this?
[15:27] <tomreyn> realjuan: that's about ubuntu 12.04, which certainly worked very differently to 18.04
[15:27] <realjuan> I maybe wrong, but I think the HDMI plug is not connected to the NVIDIA since I am using it now. I can have both display connected, but one start flickering. If i have the resolutions and scaling I want
[15:28] <realjuan> oopps wrong post
[15:28] <realjuan> sorry
[15:28] <realjuan> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1155226/blinking-mouse-after-trying-to-configure-2-displays
[15:28] <realjuan> again wrong one
[15:29] <realjuan> okay, thats the correct one.
[15:32] <tomreyn> realjuan: try either the !hwe -edge stack (including xserver-xorg-hwe) or the 19.04 live iso, see if it works better there. it should have better support for hidpi configurations.
[15:34] <realjuan> Okay, i may try the 19.04. The flickering seems to be different depeding on which apt I got selected. Worst is notepad++ and the best is firefox (none) Terminal flickers every 1/3 of a second
[15:40] <crimson_king> There is a snap by Canonical called "Docker" in the store. So, does it come with docker-compose as well? It seems to be a modified version of Docker. What are the differences?
[15:41] <tomreyn> realjuan: the "!hwe -edge" option i mentioned would be to install packages    linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04    and reboot
[15:43] <realjuan> okay, i will try the 19.04. Since more than one already recommended it.
[15:43] <realjuan> brb
[15:44] <pragmaticenigma> crimson_king: The "Docker" snap is provided as is. Something to note is that you will be running a container environment inside of another container environment. I suspect the real purpose of the Docker snap is to provide an environment for testing Docker, but not production use.
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> crimson_king: If the tool docker-compose is part of the build (default set of utilities,) then it should be included with the snap
[15:46] <crimson_king> pragmaticenigma, thanks for the info.
[15:49] <rigel_> my hp usb printer has a device communication error (5012) on hp-toolbox
[16:04] <realjuan> On terminal, I ask to show difference between two files and now I want to exit the view but not exit the installation. What do I do that?
[16:04] <realjuan> ctrl+c doesnt work
[16:06] <ioria> realjuan, q
[16:07] <realjuan> thx
[16:07] <ioria> ok
[16:08] <activedecay> are there any ubuntu 16.04 users that can recommend a place to get ninja 1.5+? i can't seem to find a ppa for it anywhere
[16:11] <ioria> activedecay, i see 1.7.1-1~ubuntu16.04.1 in xenial-backports
[16:12] <activedecay> you're my hero
[16:12] <ioria> ok
[16:20] <realjuan> Well seems like my flickering problem was not solve with 19.04 :(  It does seem to be less. When I move the mouse to the main display and click, it flicker a second or two, and then stops.
[16:26] <tomreyn> realjuan: try the other approach then, just boot normally from your 18.04.2 installation again (i.e. remove the 19.04 live boot media) and install the packages i listed.
[16:27] <tomreyn> if you'll later want to revert that, you can uninstall the packages listed when you run    apt list --installed *-edge*
[16:28] <realjuan> okay, will try it. Thanks tom.
[16:28] <tomreyn> you may also be missing some newer intel firmware, though i wouldn't expect this with a 4th gen graphics core
[16:37] <Kon-> I'm trying to install a very simple library I compiled and when I "make install" I get "sudo: error while loading shared libraries: libaudit.so.1: failed to map segment from shared object"
[16:37] <Kon-> I noticed with "ldd $(which make)" that make looks for very few libraries. Is this the problem?
[16:39] <pragmaticenigma> Kon-: This channel is for support of Ubuntu as provided through official channels. Support for development and compiliation of programs is not supported here. Please use !alis to find a more appropriate channel for your question.
[16:40] <pragmaticenigma> Kon-: You can also try asking in: #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:40] <Kon-> Okay, I came here because I thought there might be an issue with library linking in my installation. Probably the issue is simpler, though
[17:02] <Th3Mafia> What package can I install for this python module? "import lib.cli"
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> Th3Mafia: There isn't... that is code probably from the original developer and you should contact them for more information
[17:47] <User4114> Hello all. I have a a problem with a new server that I've built. I have three HDDs with a combined total of 6TB that are all listed in a folder /disks. This is shared and everything works apart from: when I access the share from a client it shows only 108GB free space, this is actually the amount of free space available on the / drive rather than the storage drives. As a result I can't copy anything (well, anything >108GB) to the server.
[17:47] <User4114> Can someone help please?
[17:54] <leftyfb> !ask | User4114
[17:56] <User4114> Thanks bots, but I did ask a question. Can someone please help with why I'm getting the incorrect free space and why I therefore can't copy? I just thought the backstory may help anyone kind enough to help and it would save them asking some very basic questions.
[18:00] <sarnold> User4114: what does it mean for a drive "to be listed in a folder'?
[18:01] <User4114> thanks, sarnold. I created a folder /disks, with 3 subfolders inside of it /vault, /videos /backup, fstab mounts the 3 storage drives to the matching folders. I did, in fact, mean to type 'mounted', not sure how 'listed' ended up there.
[18:02] <sarnold> aha
[18:02] <User4114> I also tried creating subfolders in each /disks/* folder just in case there was a problem with sharing the bare metal, but it didn't help
[18:03] <sarnold> how much free space did you expect each filesystem to have?
[18:03] <User4114> they're essentially empty drives, so the binary equivalent of 2tb, 2tb and 1.5tb
[18:05] <rfm> User4114, how are you sharing it?   NFS, Samba?   I suspect if you try to share /disks you'll get the directory on the root file system shared... you probably need to share /disks/vault, /disks/videos and /disks/backup iseparately
[18:05] <User4114> and fwiw, this is correct both in gparted and if you use a file browser to access the folder on the server iteself, it's purely the sharing that reports the wrong info.
[18:08] <User4114> that's obviously doable, but then 3 lots of samba, 3 lots of password and 3 lots of icons. would prefer to avoid if possible. It's a samba share setup via webmin. I have to confess that despite being windows-free since Fiesty, I've never quite got the hang of samba.
[18:08] <User4114> As you can likely tell, so thanks for persevering!
[18:23] <sarnold> User4114: hah, samba's a real beast :/
[18:25] <sarnold> User4114: so, you browse to /disks/vault, and explorer is still telling you only free space of 108?
[18:29] <User4114> on the server it shows the correct amount of space in each folder, it's just when accessing via samba
[18:33] <sarnold> User4114: alright, so I've got a few guesses: first, check /proc/sambapid/mount and make sure that the mounts are actually visible to samba
[18:33] <sarnold> User4114: if samba is in its own namespace for whatevre reason, those mounts may not be visible
[18:37] <sarnold> User4114: the second theory is that if you've got a single *export* from samba, rather than three exports from samba, it may only be able to report the filesystem free space on the one filesystem at the top
[18:37] <User4114> ok, first problem. No such file as /proc/sambapid
[18:37] <User4114> folder*
[18:37] <sarnold> User4114: .. in which case, doing three exports, rather thanjust one, would work out fine
[18:37] <sarnold> User4114: ah, sorry, that was short hand for doing pidof sambad or whatever the process name is
[18:37] <User4114> my bad
[18:37] <sarnold> User4114: /proc/`pidof sambad`/ may work
[18:38] <User4114> sorry I assumed it was a folder structure
[18:38] <sarnold> or maybe it won't, it's been ages since I've used samba; and perhaps it has a top-level supervisor process that may or may not be different from children, so you might need to check several
[18:39] <tomreyn> smbd, IIRC
[18:41] <sarnold> oh yeah, sambad didn't feel right :)
[18:43] <User4114> hmmmmm, I've got a gvfsd-smb-browse, but other than that there's nothing there that looks sambaish
[18:43] <User4114> even checking using the gui system monitor (set to all processes)
[19:01] <User4114> Thanks for help so far but I need to shoot, maybe I'll be along to bother you folks some more soon. Cheers again.
[19:06] <sarnold> User4114: bummer, well we can try to make this go later :)
[19:07] <sarnold> User4114: if my second guess is correct, then there may not even need to be anything to fix, so long as you don't mind incorrect free space numbers :)
[19:36] <fred1807> can I specify another path to NetworkManager, other than /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections ?
[19:37] <fred1807> if true, how?
[19:37] <ioria> why ?
[19:38] <fred1807> read-only rootfs
[19:39] <ioria> fred1807, sy, i don't get you
[19:41] <fred1807> I dont get you too, do you know the flag on networkmanager.conf to change this path? I am looking for it on manual, cant find
[19:47] <ioria> fred1807, https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/NetworkManager.conf.html
[19:48] <fred1807> I was reading and could not find it, but I found, thx
[20:29] <p0a> Hello
[20:30] <p0a> I tried installing texlive-full but I'm getting errors
[20:30] <p0a> I've tried `apt-get update --fix-missing' and `dpkg --configure -a' and `apt --fix-broken install'
[20:30] <p0a> none have worked
[20:31] <CodeMouse92> p0a: Can you put the errors into paste.ubuntu.com? Hard to work from "getting errors"
[20:32] <p0a> CodeMouse92: sure
[20:34] <p0a> CodeMouse92: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2zkZk7tQxc/
[20:34] <tomreyn> i don't think you combine '--fix-missing' with 'update', rather with 'install' (but be sure you know what it does if you use it)
[20:34] <p0a> CodeMouse92: I installed texlive-full in an earlier session so I do not have the original error messages
[20:35] <p0a> tomreyn: I just installed this OS (18.04) so if it doesn't work I'll reinstall it
[20:36] <CodeMouse92> Okay, it's not really a dependency issue when you come down to it. It DOWNLOADED 'texlive-luatex', but it can't unpack it. Something is borked
[20:36] <CodeMouse92> !info texlive-luatex bionic
[20:36] <tomreyn> p0a: okay, but that's not what i was talking about - i was just making a general remark.
[20:37] <p0a> CodeMouse92: the errors started with the command `apt-get install texlive-full' from yesterday
[20:37] <p0a> downloading texlive-luatex was me trying to fix it
[20:37] <CodeMouse92> p0a: I understand that, but the other errors all refer back to its inability to install texlive-luatex
[20:37] <tomreyn> "fmtutil failed. Output has been stored in /tmp/fmtutil.XuglBz2y"
[20:38] <CodeMouse92> At least I can rule out weird PPAs. There's only one, and its unrelated (I use it on Bionic too for the latest gcc)
[20:38] <p0a> fmtutil complains it couldn't build lautex/pdfcsplain
[20:39] <p0a> the first error is [ERROR]: running `luatex -ini -jobname=pdfcsplain -progname=pdfcsplain -etex csplain.ini < /dev/null' return status 1
[20:40] <p0a> CodeMouse92: Yeah I also wanted gcc 9.1 :D
[20:40] <p0a> weve come a long way
[20:40] <CodeMouse92> p0a: Y'know, it may be unrelated, but what version of GCC is currently being used by default? (Run `gcc --version`)
[20:41] <p0a> CodeMouse92: that's weird. I got 7.4.0
[20:41]  * CodeMouse92 always leaves the 'gcc' and 'g++' aliases alone and only uses 'cc' and 'c++' with update-alternatives
[20:41] <p0a> I had 9.1 installed ..
[20:41] <CodeMouse92> p0a: It's not weird. That's what it SHOULD be
[20:41] <tomreyn> maybe related: bug 1746865
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> p0a: You have multiple gcc versions installed. You should ALWAYS leave gcc at its default unless you know what you're doing, since that's used for installing stuff, working with kernal, etc.
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> Otherwise you can really get yourself in a hash
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> p0a: You can still invoke gcc 9 with `gcc-9` ;)
[20:42] <p0a> yeah
[20:42] <p0a> I know it's just that I had gcc-9 installed
[20:42] <p0a> and somehow apt decided to replace it later
[20:42] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: I second that; looks related
[20:43] <p0a> well, okay, not going to bother with what gcc defaults to. that's not the point
[20:43] <p0a> I dont know how to understand tomreyn's message
[20:43] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn, p0a: BINGO! That's it...the same error message is mentioned in the comments
[20:43] <p0a> okay... :(
[20:43] <tomreyn> hmm i'm not sure, those people reporting it say they upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04, but p0a says this is a fresh 18.04 installation
[20:44] <p0a> yes it is :D
[20:44] <CodeMouse92> p0a: Okay, basically tomreyn found a bug report for this issue. It's not you, it's not fixable by you, and it'll be resolved eventually.
[20:44] <p0a> ah...
[20:44] <CodeMouse92> tomreyn: Honestly, I think the "upgrade" is just noise to the core issue
[20:44] <p0a> okay here's another question
[20:44] <p0a> my ubuntu partitioned my installations
[20:44] <CodeMouse92> If there are issues installed this on Bionic, it'll show up regardless
[20:44] <tomreyn> that's certainly possible, CodeMouse92
[20:44] <CodeMouse92> *installing
[20:44] <p0a> so 18.04 is one partition. can I just erase it and replace it with something else (arch, gentoo, etc) ? will that work?
[20:44] <tomreyn> p0a: please post /tmp/fmtutil.XuglBz2y
[20:45] <p0a> tomreyn: okay
[20:45] <p0a> tomreyn: it's a huge file
[20:45] <tomreyn> to a pastebin
[20:45] <CodeMouse92> p0a: Absolutely, but make sure you backup. If you erase it, you're blowing away your files.
[20:45] <tomreyn> p0a: how large is this file?
[20:45] <CodeMouse92> Any partition can be replaced.
[20:48] <tomreyn> hmm if the default gcc version was changed, this may explain the fmtutil errors
[20:48] <p0a> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B2jjhrhq5m/
[20:50] <p0a> that's the fmtutil log file
[20:50] <tomreyn> p0a: thanks. did you introduce those line breaks or were they there before?
[20:51] <tomreyn> looks like lines are wrapped at 80 characters
[20:51] <p0a> I think they are there
[20:51] <p0a> yeah they are
[20:51] <tomreyn> how did you upload the file?
[20:51] <p0a> I just checked on a fullscreen terminal with `less'
[20:52] <p0a> the line breaks are there. I uploaded by using emacs `C-x h' to select all, then `M-w' to copy
[20:52] <p0a> you're bothered by line braaks?
[20:52] <tomreyn> it makes it harder to read, but it's ok.
[20:52] <p0a> :( sorry
[20:52] <tomreyn> no worries, especially if it's how it is on the log file!
[20:53] <tomreyn> you can just run "pastebinit /path/to/filename" btw.
[20:53] <tomreyn> !pastebinit
[20:53] <p0a> ah okay 
[20:55] <tomreyn> line 2512: "! I can't find file `luatex85.sty'."
[20:57] <p0a> :(
[20:57] <tomreyn> p0a: can you run:      locale -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <p0a> tomreyn: not going to run the nc line but i can paste it for you, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KqZ4wgg3pj/
[21:00] <tomreyn>  /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/luatex85/luatex85.sty is part of texlive-luatex, which is not yet installed on your system
[21:00] <p0a> yeah i don't get why its complaining. it seems that it got stuck with luatex and czechslovak stuff
[21:01] <tomreyn> okay your localers look fine
[21:01] <tomreyn> i assume that if you can manually download and install (using dpkg -i) texlive-luatex first of all, then run    dpkg --configure -a     this should resolve the dependency issues.
[21:03] <tomreyn> p0a: you can wget it from one of the mirrors listed here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/all/texlive-luatex/download
[21:04] <Thr0r> ubottu: screenshot
[21:04] <tomreyn> then verify its sha256 checksum using     sha256sum texlive-luatex_2017.20180305-1_all.deb    and comparing the output to that on this website.
[21:04] <p0a> dependency problems: luatex depends on texlive-common but texlive-common is not configured yet
[21:04] <p0a> this is from `dpkg -i texlive-luatex....deb'
[21:06] <tomreyn> p0a: hmm thist's not enough output to understood what happened
[21:07] <p0a> thats all really
[21:07] <p0a> I can paste
[21:07] <p0a> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9bnGhzyKnn/
[21:09] <tomreyn> p0a: hmm okay. now what was it about you changing your gcc? what did you do exactly?
[21:11] <p0a> tomreyn: here is my full bash history https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ykyZ9XkTg7
[21:11] <p0a> tomreyn: see line 107 etc
[21:12] <p0a> actually there's line's missing from it but w/e. you can see exactly what happened with gcc
[21:13] <p0a> tomreyn: i have to go but please memoserv me any ideas I would appreciate it
[21:13] <p0a> I am thinking of reinstalling 18.04 at this point
[21:14] <p0a> thank you for your time
[21:17] <Thr0r> tomreyn:  https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts - A very useful and good web-page.. Thanks
[21:22] <tomreyn> Thr0r: glad it helps, but note i don't make not promises that what you'll find there is good code or won't make your hardware explode.
[21:26] <Thr0r> tomreyn: Really? -No warranty!? wow..  I can live well with that.. I'm learning Linux and read whatever I find :)
[21:31] <Thr0r> The latest command I found was this: " fallocate -l 5G example.file" - it creates a file with size of 5GB, but I don't understand how it does that... Just an example..
[21:32] <Thr0r> Maybe Ubutto can help..
[21:34] <EriC^^> Thr0r: type "man fallocate" it explains how
[21:34] <fullstack> hi, is there a quick way to change back from a new kernel basic to the original ubuntu one? I checked /etc/default/grub and it isn't listed there
[21:35] <fullstack> grub.cfg -- how do I easily set the default back to 4.15 without having to do some major editing to this file
[21:36] <EriC^^> fullstack: type "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste
[21:38] <Thr0r> EriC^^ : Thanks - I tend to forget "man"... It's useful in many ways
[21:38] <chieta> what's the snap rather than apt?
[21:39] <fullstack> https://termbin.com/uyym
[21:40] <fullstack> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 4.15.0-54-generic'  <--- I think I want this one
[21:41] <fullstack> Are these suppose to be in incremental order? Does the first one default? I forgot about this stuff
[21:42] <chieta> many kernel collections fullstack
[21:42] <fullstack> I am issues crashing
[21:42] <fullstack> With what I think is amdgpu, so I tried 4.20. Now I guess I want to go back
[21:43] <fullstack> anyway, is there a quick way to set this? probably not right?
[21:43] <EriC^^> fullstack: ok type "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" then modify GRUB_DEFAULT="Advanced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 4.15.0-54-generic"
[21:43] <EriC^^> fullstack: then sudo update-grub
[21:44] <EriC^^> fullstack: do you want it permanent or just this one time?
[21:45] <EriC^^> fullstack: you could use GRUB_DEFAULT=saved and then it would remember the last one you booted i think
[21:46] <EriC^^> if you dont want the hassle of editing /etc/default/grub each time i guess
[21:46] <fullstack> EriC^^, thanks, I will use DEFAULT=saved
[21:46] <fullstack> I forgot
[21:46] <akik> you can also use the boot option labels for GRUB_DEFAUlt
[21:46] <fullstack> about that
[21:46] <EriC^^> fullstack: also add GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true i think that's required
[21:47] <fullstack> yup thanks
[21:47]  * SignalsOut does the Mc Hammer dance through the room.
[21:47] <fullstack> ohhhhhh-ooooooo-ohhhh-oooooo o o
[21:48] <SignalsOut> ;)
[22:16] <irated> What apt flags to i need to bypass this during packer image creation?
[22:16] <irated> vmware-iso: Configuring libssl1.1:amd64 vmware-iso: --------------------------- vmware-iso: vmware-iso:
[22:17] <sarnold> what are you trying to do?
[22:18] <irated> apt upgrade during image build.
[22:19] <sarnold> what's an image build?
[22:19] <sarnold> are you trying to build the image with the original release packages?
[22:19] <sarnold> why do you not want updated packages?
[22:20] <irated> I want the updated packages, packer builds images to be used with things like vmware, aws, openstack etc,
[22:20] <irated> I just need it to auto configure there.
[22:20] <sarnold> so you want each guest system to do the updates post-boot, rather than getting updates into the image?
[22:23] <irated> nah, The issue is my image build process is stuck at apt upgrade waiting for that.
[22:25] <sarnold> OH
[22:26] <sarnold> irated: try running your commands with the env variable DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[22:28] <irated> I thought i had that in my scripteroni
[22:28] <irated> Let me double check
[22:29] <starfox64> I'm sorry but did my last message send? I'm not sure I was logged in properly.
[22:29] <deltab> starfox64: no
[22:30] <starfox64> Alright, thank you!
[22:31] <starfox64> Earlier today I was at work trying to install the following onto a VM with Ubuntu Server on it "sudo apt install krb5-user" and got an error message for it - which I sadly didn't copy or save. It basically said that the package is not available anymroe but might be available in another package. Now I did just try the same thing at home, also in a VM running Ubuntu Server and the thing installed without an issue.
[22:31] <starfox64> The only difference with the two VMs is the language from what Ican tell. So does anyone know what I can do to install it on the former?
[22:32] <brimestone> is there a way for me to migrate my Ubuntu 14 LTS. Running OpenVPN server to AWS?
[22:34] <jeremy31> brimestone: do you have ESM?
[22:34] <brimestone> ESM?
[22:34] <jeremy31> !esm | brimestone
[22:34] <brimestone> Oh, no I don't
[22:35] <jeremy31> brimestone: Ubuntu 14.04 is EOL, no longer supported without ESM
[22:35] <brimestone> So it can't be spun up on AWS?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> starfox64: ' apt show krb5-user
[22:36] <starfox64> Do I run that on the vm that won't let me install it or the one that installed it fine?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> ' shows the package in the universe repo. On the other box is the universe repo enabled ?
[22:37] <jeremy31> brimestone: I have no clue about AWS, but you are running a server that likely has unfixed security flaws
[22:37] <brimestone> i know..
[22:38] <brimestone> I'am upgrading it to 18.04.. but need to keep 14 up and running until switch over.
[22:42] <starfox64> But given the repo installed fine on one machine I would assume it is there?
[22:46] <Thr0r> Why would one "upgrade" to 18,04 when 19,04 is available. And you DO  support 19,04 until it goes into LTS? And soon there will be 19,10 and 20,10?
[22:46] <SpiritHorse> 1. because 18.04 is LTS.  2. plenty of bugs in 19.04, filed 4 today.
[22:47] <SpiritHorse> 19.10*
[22:47] <SpiritHorse> I guess once it goes LTS it becomes more attractive
[22:48] <Thr0r> SpiritHorse: Ok - Give me a link to those bugs in 19,10 please
[22:48] <Bashing-om> starfox64: Best I recall the universe repo is not enabled by default in a server.
[22:51] <sarnold> SpiritHorse: what do you mean by "it goes into LTS"?
[22:51] <SpiritHorse> "when there is a LTS release" I think is the proper way to phrase it
[22:52] <SpiritHorse> sorry, English is not my first language
[22:53] <Tom012> Hello people. How can I install Synergy on Ubuntu 19.04?
[22:54] <sarnold> SpiritHorse: aha, okay :) I just wanted to make sure that you know that 19.04 will never be an LTS release :)
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !info synergy disco
[22:55] <Bashing-om> !info synergy bionic
[22:55] <SpiritHorse> sarnold: yes! thank you for making the distinction
[22:55] <SpiritHorse> I don't want to confuse people lol
[22:56] <Bashing-om> !ppa
[23:01] <Thr0r> sarnold:  What!? I have this now on my system: "Kernel: 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.16.2 Distro: Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo)" -- Are you telling me that IT wil not go into LTS and fullsupport soon?
[23:02] <sarnold> Thr0r: you'll need to update to 19.10 somewhere around january 2020 to continue receiving updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:02] <OerHeks> 9 months support, for non-lts..
[23:04] <Thr0r> sarnold: OerHeks: Ok - why keep it simple.. Thanks
[23:04] <sarnold> Thr0r: hehe, it's a balance between trying to ship something new every six months for the enthusiasts vs keeping something stable for people who just want to get their work done
[23:05] <jeremy31> actually Ubuntu 19.10 should be supported until August 2020
[23:06] <sarnold> jeremy31: Thr0r is on 19.04 now
[23:06] <grym> i've `apt install xfce4` on 19.04; now whenever my workstation isn't touched for 15 minutes or so the monitors turn off and won't turn on and i have to remote in and `sudo service lightdm restart` and log back into a new user session
[23:06] <grym> what xfce packages am i missing
[23:06] <OerHeks> beyond 20.04 lts indeed, and i think it matches 20.04.1
[23:07] <jeremy31> sarnold: misread your post
[23:08] <JimBuntu> Tom012, You'll probably want to download it and install that.  Good software, btw.
[23:09] <Tom012> JimBuntu: OK I will try that.
[23:10] <JimBuntu> Tom012, last I read, the new version was bad, stick to legacy or make sure to read the site information
[23:10] <Thr0r> sarnold: Ok - I will manage. I am fine with 19,04 now - And will upgrade as soon as 19,10 is available.. It's not critical for me since I have several computers to use.
[23:11] <sarnold> Thr0r: you'll have roughly three months overlap when both 19.04 and 19.10 are supported; just be sure to upgrade somewhere in that time :)
[23:11] <Bashing-om> grym: Gui: Do you have settings -> Power manager ?
[23:11] <grym> Bashing-om: yes, but i had to install it separately
[23:12] <Thr0r> sarnold: I will -thanks for helping
[23:14] <JimBuntu> !cookie sarnold
[23:14] <JimBuntu> !cookie > sarnold
[23:16] <grym> Bashing-om: i've now set 'blank after', 'put to sleep after' and 'switch off after' sliders to "never", but i'm not sure if that's going to change much
[23:16] <sarnold> JimBuntu: a cookie! woot!
[23:17] <JimBuntu> sarnold, You have been helping, deserve that cookie
[23:18] <sarnold> :D thanks JimBuntu :)
[23:18] <JimBuntu> You are very welcome... and, thank you!
[23:19] <Bashing-om> grym: Well,, time will tell I do not use it, so do not have the experience to say.
[23:21] <JimBuntu> grym, I don't experience that with 16.04, *might* be a 19.04 thing, please check for known bugs
[23:23] <sarnold> probably those sliders control xset dpms, check with xset q  if it is what you expect
[23:31] <Thr0r> The only distro these power-setting things works ok is in Kubuntu - all other distros either lack choises or if they exists - they don't work correctly...
[23:36] <sarnold> irated: jfyi comment number six on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ansible/+bug/1833013
[23:42] <Thr0r> Have any of you Mods here ever worked with OS/2? ..Or has it been Linux/Unix all the time?   ..>> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:50] <Thr0r> New York: 19:48 - Washington: 19:48 LA: 16:49 Oslo where I live: 01:50...
[23:51] <sarnold> better go with utc instead :) only 23:50:30
[23:53] <Thr0r> sarnold: Ok - I expect I will soon be banned from this channel - But I don't mean no harm...