[00:09] after xubuntu-default-settings was updated, i came across this bug in update manager - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1834798 [00:09] Launchpad bug 1834798 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Help' icon and label not suitable for xubuntu-default-settings" [Undecided,New] === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:27] bluesabre: So `xfce4-screensaver` doesn't run as a fork, but --help mentions --no-daemon which indicates it should. [02:29] Unit193: that's a goooooood point [02:29] :'-D [05:23] bluesabre: so - l-lock gone and set to what you told Unit193, presentation mode off [05:57] bluesabre: strangely enough - doing what you suggest, setting something to on seems to have done the trick for me [11:49] saw a number of xubuntu packages which have wrong checkbox labels and icons in update-manager yesterday and wondered where update-manager is pulling these labels and icons from [11:50] e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/431229100/Screenshot_2019-07-01_02-08-01.png [12:54] jphilipz: software updater seems to pick some random .desktop file from the package [14:09] jphilipz: would be nice if we could improve that, it's really misleading and sucky... [14:20] went through all of the moderation requiring mails [15:21] bluesabre: nope - screen turns off - but it's not actually locked [15:36] brainwash: i presume most packages dont have .desktop files in them if they arent gui apps [15:36] brainwash, ochosi: should i open launchpad bugs for each of the packages i notice this in? [15:36] or put them all in a single bug report [15:37] or document them in a google spreadsheet [15:47] jphilipz: isn't this your bug 1834798 [15:47] bug 1834798 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Help' icon and label not suitable for xubuntu-default-settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834798 [15:48] brainwash: yep that is mine. I screenshots of two other packages with the same issue and presume i'll find more each time i update. [15:48] I have* screenshots [15:48] it's picking this desktop file /usr/share/xubuntu/applications/xfhelp4.desktop [15:57] is that desktop file included in the package? [17:38] such a weird experience that i put the xfhelp4.desktop path into thunar and my system stopped functioning properly and had to hard reset [17:43] brainwash: yep i see it now in the package. xfhelp4.desktop is the last .desktop file in it [20:41] didnt get a reply to this earlier, so i'll ask it again. [20:42] not sure where to ask this, but i checked the marketing wiki and didnt see anything about social media marketing [20:42] if possible, i'd like to lend a hand at running the twitter account and help engage more with the community and increase the followers [22:46] tried to run playonlinux on 19.10 and it crashes just creating a wine bottle [22:47] https://imgur.com/mCqSsgz.png [22:48] before that it had https://imgur.com/GPlDMk2.png [22:49] oh okay, there is no wine32 packages in 19.10 [23:11] brainwash: update the bug report and adding screenshots for exo-utils and xfce4-screensaver