[00:00] <sayed001> Hello
[00:01] <sarnold> hello sayed001
[00:01] <sayed001> new here, testing. thanks for reply sarnold
[00:27] <sarnold> sayed001: welcome :)
[01:31] <chieta> !EOL
[01:34] <Thr0r> ubottu: You are just a bot - a good bot.
[01:38] <Thr0r> How can I update my Kernel without affecting my desktop settings? I have a perfect Desktop now but I might be in need to upgrade The Kernel when there is new upgrades..
[01:39] <tonyt> th0r why not just leave thigs the way they are
[01:41] <Thr0r> tonyt; Security maybe speaks for updates?
[01:43] <sarnold> just apt update && apt upgrade
[01:43] <chieta> kernel 4 to 5 Thr0r?
[01:43] <sarnold> of course when new releases come out, they may have changes
[01:43] <sarnold> folks who like changes run all the releases, folks who don't like changes will stick on the LTS releases
[01:44] <OerHeks> why should a kernel update affect desktop settings?
[01:46] <coz_> OerHeks, in what way?
[01:46] <OerHeks> dunno, Thr0r is suggesting it could
[01:46] <coz_> OerHeks, possibly
[01:48] <coz_> OerHeks, I don't recall it ever happening to me,
[01:49] <OerHeks> me neither
[01:49] <Thr0r> OerHeks: I am not suggesting anything - it's just that I have had to go thru alot of installations to get to where I am now - And I am wodering if I choose "upgrade" in Any sence would reset my Desktop to Default or something...
[01:50] <OerHeks> a kernel update does not touch such settings, installing a theme perhaps can
[01:50] <coz_> some apps may change to defaults, but again, only with updates of those apps, kernel updates, as I said never happened to me
[01:51] <coz_> OerHeks, I agree from my experience
[01:52] <Thr0r> Ok - And How do I Choose to only upgrade Kernel when upgrades are offered?
[01:53] <OerHeks> Don't. as it makes no sense just updating a kernel and not important components
[01:53] <OerHeks> i would say; always run dist-upgrade/full-upgrade
[01:54] <Thr0r> - Ok - I'm just trying to learn..
[01:54] <coz_> OerHeks, sounds right
[01:55] <OerHeks> That is oke, if we answer right, you pass on good information, saves us a lot of time
[02:01] <Thr0r> OerHeks: Ok Thanks: Definition of Time: " A period of time considered as a resource under your control and sufficient to accomplish something"  -So you are doing well in that Sence..
[02:30] <cgi> on 16.04 - is there a way to keep openssl up2date?
[02:30] <cgi> I currently am on an older version of openssl - and would like to use the newest version
[03:29] <jojero> hello, is there any shortcut key to jump to my opened apps in ubuntu like in mac?
[03:29] <jojero> search box something in the middle?
[03:29] <jojero> --of the screen
[03:30] <JoatMos> What window manager?
[03:30] <Sveta> are you using gnome or kde?
[03:31] <jojero> gnome
[03:31] <JoatMos> Did you try Alt-Tab?
[03:31] <jojero> yes
[03:31] <jojero> but I want something like search
[03:31] <jojero> typing the name of the app
[03:31] <jojero> is there any function like that?
[03:32] <Sveta> do you have win key on your keyboard?
[03:32] <jojero> yesss
[03:32] <Sveta> try win+tab
[03:32] <jojero> its the sameee
[03:32] <jojero> like alt+tab
[03:32] <JoatMos> Or just hit the win tab and release
[03:32] <Sveta> interesting, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/1045829/how-to-change-shortcut-for-activities-overview
[03:33] <Sveta> I am not sure what the 'super' key stands for, but you can change it. I think you want the 'activities overview', not the 'alt +tab' view
[03:35] <Sveta> it looks like this https://i.stack.imgur.com/HKV63.jpg I think
[03:35] <JoatMos> I get that when I hit only the WIN key and then release it.
[03:35] <gambl0re> hi guys
[03:36] <Sveta> thank you, JoatMos
[03:36] <gambl0re> when i suspend my computer sometimes when i turn my computer back on all i get is a black screen
[03:36] <gambl0re> i usually have to do ctl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7
[03:36] <gambl0re> any ideas thanks
[03:37] <gambl0re> anyone know if ubuntu has a fix for this bug. thanks
[03:37] <gambl0re> seems to be a known issue
[03:37] <Sveta> gambl0re, in terminal, type 'uname -a' to see your kernel version; what does it tell you?
[03:38] <gambl0re> Sveta, Linux thnkpdt480s 4.18.0-21-generic #22~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 16 15:07:19 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:38] <Sveta> also, what graphics card are you using?
[03:38] <gambl0re> intel graphics
[03:38] <JoatMos> Are you using proprietary video drivers or the default "nouveau" driver?
[03:38] <gambl0re> default. i didnt install any drivers
[03:38] <Sveta> it's intel, I don't think nouveau applies
[03:39] <JoatMos> yes, Sveta, got ahead of myself. :-)
[03:39] <gambl0re> it would be great if someone knows a fix. its annoying to keep doing ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 all the time
[03:39] <gambl0re> that doesnt always fix the issue also
[03:39] <Sveta> jojero, let me know whether 'win' key works for you; and whether you can find your keyboard shortcut settings similar to what's written in the link that i shared
[03:40] <gambl0re> else i might be forced to go back to windows but preferably would like to continue using linux
[03:40] <JoatMos> How old is your motherboard?  Could there be BIOS updates for it?
[03:41] <gambl0re> its a new laptop
[03:41] <gambl0re> im using latest bios
[03:41] <Sveta> gambl0re, someone in a forum says ``I was able to solve my problem by going into BIOS settings on my ThinkPad and changing the graphics setting from "Discrete Graphics" to "Integrated Graphics." ``
[03:41] <Sveta> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2366965
[03:42] <Sveta> that was two years ago, maybe still relevant
[03:42] <gambl0re> Sveta, i dont have any discrete graphics
[03:42] <Sveta> ah
[03:42] <Sveta> I would perhaps suggest to check your logs in /var/logs/
[03:42] <gambl0re> how did you know im using thinkpad
[03:42] <Sveta> in case it has any meaningful output there
[03:42] <Sveta> your 'uname -a' says thinkpad in the output
[03:42] <gambl0re> oh
[03:43] <Sveta> i'd look at the files in '/var/log', see which ones were modified today, and look for any errors there
[03:43] <Sveta> there's also the #intel-gfx channel, perhaps it's waaaay smaller than this one, but more knowledgeable
[03:43] <Sveta> (potentially)
[03:43] <gambl0re> theres a lot of files in /var/log
[03:43] <gambl0re> which file should i be looking at
[03:44] <Sveta> I'm not an expert in this. I think it's the ones which were modified recently, look at the modification date. possibly /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/kern.log
[03:47] <gambl0re> i will post the output in here. it's quite large
[03:47] <gambl0re> Jul  1 12:11:48 thnkpdt480s kernel: [443672.703037] thunderbolt 0000:06:00.0: starting TX ring 0
[03:47] <gambl0re> Jul  1 12:11:48 thnkpdt480s kernel: [443672.703048] thunderbolt 0000:06:00.0: enabling interrupt at register 0x38200 bit 0 (0x0 -> 0x1)
[03:47] <gambl0re> Jul  1 12:11:48 thnkpdt480s kernel: [443672.703051] thunderbolt 0000:06:00.0: starting RX ring 0
[03:47] <gambl0re> Jul  1 12:11:48 thnkpdt480s kernel: [443672.703061] thunderbolt 0000:06:00.0: enabling interrupt at register 0x38200 bit 12 (0x1 -> 0x1001)
[03:47] <gambl0re> Jul  1 12:11:48 thnkpdt480s kernel: [443672.913093] ACPI: EC: event unblocked
[03:47] <Sveta> gambl0re, the bot here called 'Drone' has quieted you for a minute. Please do not paste the text into the channel. Instead visit http://paste.ubuntu.com to share it
[03:48] <Sveta> gambl0re: if it continues to paste after a minute, please close your chat client, and re-connect.
[03:50] <gambl0re> hi guys
[03:51] <Sveta> gambl0re: hi! welcome back. I can see your text again now.
[03:51] <gambl0re> cool
[03:51] <Sveta> gambl0re: the link for sharing long pastes is http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:51] <gambl0re> does the log show anything interesting?
[03:51] <gambl0re> Sveta, ok
[03:52] <gambl0re> that wasnt even the full output. i couldnt copy the entire thing
[03:52] <Sveta> gambl0re: I saw only the first five lines, and they were not very relevant. I think you have more than that, right?
[03:52] <Sveta> gambl0re: you can share the file at the pastebin, hopefully the whole thing.
[03:54] <gambl0re> Sveta, its quite large
[03:54] <gambl0re> you want me to paste in here?
[03:54] <Sveta> gambl0re: no
[03:54] <Sveta> gambl0re: please paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com instead
[03:54] <gambl0re> 1692 lines
[03:54] <gambl0re> https://pastebin.com/NcSYkm3x
[03:55] <Sveta> OK, thanks
[03:55] <Sveta> It is https://pastebin.com/raw/NcSYkm3x (same link, without the ads)
[03:55] <Sveta> Do you know the hour and minute when you resumed from suspend?
[03:56] <Sveta> The only interesting thing for me here is
[03:56] <Sveta> Jul  1 23:16:04 thnkpdt480s kernel: [467397.895655] [drm] Reducing the compressed framebuffer size. This may lead to less power savings than a non-reduced-size. Try to increase stolen memory size if available in BIOS.
[03:56] <gambl0re> umm maybe between 5-6 clock
[03:56] <Sveta> ah
[03:57] <Sveta> PM or AM?
[03:57] <Sveta> Jul  1 17:53:22 thnkpdt480s kernel: [457460.878084] [drm] Reducing the compressed framebuffer size. This may lead to less power savings than a non-reduced-size. Try to increase stolen memory size if available in BIOS.
[03:57] <Sveta> this happened at 17:53
[03:58] <gambl0re> pm
[03:58] <gambl0re> Sveta, what does that message even mean?
[03:58] <jojero> Sveta: thanks!
[03:59] <Sveta> jojero, you're welcome; what happened?
[03:59] <jojero> I surrender xD
[03:59] <jojero> I just press win key
[03:59] <Sveta> jojero, you tried 'win', and it did not help you?
[03:59] <jojero> I tried
[04:00] <jojero> win + name string
[04:00] <Sveta> jojero, then you tried alt+F1, it also did not help you?
[04:00] <jojero> means it will not open duplicates same as windows start search
[04:00] <jojero> it is the same as win key
[04:00] <jojero> it helps
[04:00] <Sveta> what is about duplicates?
[04:00] <jojero> ah I thought if example
[04:00] <jojero> vscode is open
[04:01] <jojero> then i press win key
[04:01] <gambl0re> Sveta, https://pastebin.com/Q9e1JdJ3
[04:01] <gambl0re> this is xorg.log file
[04:01] <jojero> if I search that in activities (win key) then it will open new window rather opening the current open window
[04:01] <Sveta> gambl0re, 'drm' is related to graphics somehow. If it is the correct error, then the next step is to search for this error message on the web
[04:01] <jojero> thats what Im thinking but yes it works, it does not open duplicates it open current which I want.
[04:02] <Sveta> jojero, can its behaviour be improved to make it better than what it is doing now?
[04:02] <jojero> Can I ask question here too about zsh and bash? does zsh imports its data to zshrc?
[04:02] <gambl0re> Sveta, but how do i know if thats the correct error
[04:02] <Sveta> gambl0re, it looked like the most relevant part of your paste, to me.
[04:02] <jojero> Sveta I mean is, its working the way I wanted it's already present what I am looking for.
[04:02] <Sveta> gambl0re, hence the suggestion.
[04:03] <gambl0re> Sveta, ok thanks for the help
[04:03] <Sveta> jojero, this sounds perfect
[04:03] <gambl0re> ill try googling the error
[04:03] <JoatMos> gambl0re, try getting into your BIOS setup and see if you can increase the size of the memeory reserved for the integrated graphics.   It may default to too small a value.  Set it to 16MB or greater and give it a try.
[04:03] <Sveta> thank you, JoatMos
[04:03] <jojero> Sveta about zshrc, does it import the bashrc file?
[04:03] <gambl0re> JoatMos, inside bios?
[04:03] <jojero> coz I am customizing my linux, I left windows for good no NPM x10 faster
[04:03] <JoatMos> Yes, reboot your system and hit the function key that takes you to the BIOS setup system (its usually displayed as part of the boot process)
[04:04] <Sveta> jojero, this looks interesting. I would perhaps ask about it at #zsh
[04:05] <JoatMos> gambl0re, try holding the "F2" button while rebooting.
[04:05] <gambl0re> ok i dont recall seeing any settings in bios to change integrated graphic memor size but i'll double check.
[04:05] <gambl0re> i'll be back
[04:05] <Sveta> thanks JoatMos
[04:06] <JoatMos> :-)
[04:14] <gambl0re> there is nothing in bios to change memory size for graphics
[04:14] <gambl0re> also whenever i boot my computer i keep getting 'system program problem detected' error
[04:14] <gambl0re> but it doesnt mention what the problem is
[04:15] <JoatMos> Huh.   Are you booting in "Legacy" or UEFI mode?
[04:15] <gambl0re> not sure
[04:15] <gambl0re> i think uefi
[04:15] <gambl0re> but there was nothing in bios about changing memory size
[04:15] <gambl0re> for intel graphics
[04:16] <JoatMos> Which ThinkPad model?
[04:16] <gambl0re> t480s
[04:17] <JoatMos> Are you running an external monitor when these issues happen?
[04:18] <gambl0re> i use a external monitor sometimes
[04:18] <gambl0re> but it happens whether im connected to my external monitor or not
[04:19] <JoatMos> OK...
[04:19] <JoatMos> There are a number of bugs about the error in your X.Org log file that you posted on ##linux.
[04:19] <JoatMos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1766974
[04:20] <gambl0re> i tried googling that error message but didnt find anything interesting
[04:22] <JoatMos> Just as a test, have you tried logging into the Wayland display server instead of X.Org? (It is usually an option on the login screen when you click on the gear icon by your login name)
[04:23] <gambl0re> i didnt see any gear icon when login
[04:23] <realjuan> Is there a way to add "gnome-session-quit --power-off" to the alt + f4 shortcut that closes window? Like if I am on the desktop to close session and if I am in an application to close the application?
[04:23] <gambl0re> im using xubuntu. i dont think it has that option
[04:23] <JoatMos> Ahhh.  You're right.  No option there.
[04:28] <JoatMos> Are you running an LTS (18.04.x) or a more recent version?
[04:29] <JoatMos> Now I am really going to talk through my hat, but I have noticed that some people claim that reverting back kernels made the problem go away.
[04:29] <JoatMos> I notice that you are running a 4.18 kernel.  The LTS versions are on 4.15 I believe.
[04:30] <JoatMos> I know you probably don't want to hear this, but you might try installing generic Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop (it defaults to X.org)
[04:31] <JoatMos> To that end, you might try running a Live ISO version (off of a USB thumb drive) and see if your display issues go away before re-installing.
[04:32] <JoatMos> Otherwise, I don't know what else to suggest...
[05:23] <Rembo> hello, i'm using Ubuntu 18.04 server, does one of the following patches require reboot after? https://paste.centos.org/view/ed51ca8d ?
[05:29] <blackflow> Rembo: no. Generally you'd want to reboot after kernel, glibc and dbus updates. I'd also recommend watching for lib* packages, then finding what depends on them with `apt-cache rdepends that_lib_package`, and if it has a service, restart the service.
[05:30] <blackflow> Rembo: and if your Ubuntu "server" runs thunderbird, then consider using the update-notifier package for GUI popups about updates which also inform you when to reboot.
[05:34] <Thr0r> Hi Guru's : I tried this command - did not give me a link..Just the promt back: " sudo chown -R xboss:xboss /home/xboss | nc termbin.com 9999 "
[05:35] <blackflow> Thr0r: yeah, chown won't output unless there's an error
[05:39] <Thr0r> blackflow; Ok Thanks - So no errors there then...
[05:39] <blackflow> Thr0r: but do you understand what that command you typed in does?
[05:42] <Thr0r> blackflow: No - not really - I don't. I am having problems with naming my workspaces/Virutal desktops or what you call it. The names are not persistent - I have to go in and name them all the time...
[05:44] <blackflow> Thr0r: well, the chown command sets the ownership (recursively!) of /home/xboss to xboss:xboss, and then you piped the output of that command to termbin.com (a pastebin site), with nc, at port 9999 .
[05:44] <Thr0r> blackflow: So someone suggested I should run that command...
[05:44] <blackflow> Thr0r: ideally you should never run commands you don't fully understand. Some troll will feed you some nice curl | sudo bash  malware there, or worse...
[05:46] <Thr0r> blackflow: Oh,, my.. How can I revert it?
[05:47] <blackflow> Thr0r: revert what exactly? the /home/xboss directory is kinda expected to be owned by xboss:xboss  (user:group). Users' home directories are. So you probably had a problem where you run something else in the past with sudo that created files or dirs owned by root, in xboss home directory, and that caused problems for xboss user.
[05:49] <blackflow> So someone recommended you reset all the files/dirs ownership in that home dir, to that user's.
[05:49] <blackflow> (and that someone maybe expected errors and wanted you to pastebin those in one go)
[05:51] <Thr0r> blackflow: Ok - This is getting too complicated for me.. I dont know..
[05:54] <blackflow> Thr0r: my point is, if you're typing in commands you don't understand, you'll cause yourself more trouble, potentially even full data loss, loss of backups, or open yourself to criminal liability.   Thankfully it's relatively easy to understand what you're doing. There's a system of manuals "man pages". You can check what commands do, and what the options you're given do.
[05:55] <blackflow> `man chown` for example.  | is a "pipe" (look up "unix pipeline"), which redirects output of command on the left to input (stdin) of command to the right. so `man nc` to see what nc does.
[05:55] <blackflow> and there, now you're empowered to learn and understand  :)
[05:57] <Thr0r> blackflow: K - The only time I have used Sudo is with APT ...
[06:01] <Thr0r> blackflow: Well - not true - I maybe misuse it - Sudo...
[06:02] <blackflow> Thr0r: do you know what sudo does?
[06:04] <Thr0r> blackflow: It switches to root - if you have the correct password - To my knowledge....
[06:07] <blackflow> Thr0r: `man sudo` . "switching to root" is a side effect of its bit wider function.
[06:09] <Thr0r> blackflow: Oh - Ok.. I have to read up on that aswell then.. - lots of reading..
[06:16] <blackflow> Thr0r: well I'm sorry if that bothers you but computers are complex. And if you want to learn these things, you'll have to read, or wait a few decades until we invent matrix-style plug-and-learn tech.
[06:19] <Sveta> it is ok
[06:19] <Sveta> we have this chat, if you find something difficult to read, someone here can provide guidance
[06:20] <Don_M> Exactly. There is no RT*M stuff here. We're more than happy to help
[06:20] <Sveta> in its simplest form, 'sudo' means 'do as superuser'
[06:20] <Sveta> using it with apt is ok, because package management needs superuser (administrative) access
[06:20] <Sveta> not every user can do it
[06:21] <Sveta> thank you, Don_M
[06:22] <Sveta> Thr0r: are your workspaces names working now?
[06:22] <Sveta> Thr0r: did they work before?
[06:22] <Thr0r> blackflow: It's ok for me to read up - But When I try to explain to my children that they have to learn this And that in order to use a computer - They are not happy about it - really
[06:23] <blackflow> Thr0r: yeah, kids are never happy about boring learnig. You can always make it fun for them ;)
[06:23] <Don_M> Thr0r, unfortunately, that's how it is, whether it's computers or anything else.  On the upside, there might be entertaining videos online to assist, and as blackflow mentioned, making it fun.
[06:23] <Sveta> Thr0r: well written apps do not need documentation.
[06:24] <Sveta> Thr0r: they are self obvious.
[06:24] <Sveta> Thr0r: if you see some app which is too complex to learn, you can inquire with the developer to make it easier.
[06:25] <blackflow> Don_M: and my point is, _knowing_ where to look first (manpages) is tremendous power. Especially commands you don't know what they do, you _do_ want ot look up and find out. It wouldn't be the first time some joker walked in and started telling people to rm-rf or sudo bad commands.
[06:26] <Sveta> Thr0r: if you would like to fix the workplaces names, please check whether it started working after the chown command which you shared earlier.
[06:28] <Don_M> blackflow, I agree completely. It's always a bad idea to run random commands that one has no idea what they do. Regardless of OS. I've also found the manpages to be pretty good as well for starting. Though sometimes I'll look for YT tutorials (after narrowing things down) to get a visual explanation for some things.
[06:38] <Thr0r> Get Real: If you want someone to use the product you spend all your time producing (Someone is creating this Linux)  - and all of you that did not create it but just support it, By offering commands to run when in problems.. You have to make it simple to use! That's #1
[06:38] <Sveta> yes, I know
[06:39] <Sveta> is it gnome workspaces or xfce workspaces?
[06:45] <blackflow> Thr0r: most of these commands are as simple as possible, for their function. Their function being what it is, requires manuals and knowledge how to use. _using_ ubuntu doesnt' require you to read the manuals, just like driving a car doesn't. But when something breaks, you fix it yourself (manuals) or take the car to teh repair shop. You can get paid "repair shop" support for your Ubuntu if you want.
[06:45] <blackflow> #ubuntu is not it.
[06:46] <Sveta> I would also like to know how you shut down your computer or log off before it forgets
[06:46] <blackflow> (as in, have someone do it for you -- or someone to help you learn doing it yourself)
[06:47] <Sveta> do you shut down or hibernate?
[06:51] <blackflow> Sveta: "before it forgets"?
[06:51] <Sveta> yes, before it forgets the names of the workspaces
[06:51] <Sveta> I'm asking Thr0r about this
[06:51] <Thr0r> blackflow: I don't know how old you are or if you have a kid (maybe 2 yrs old,,) -  but if you show him "man" on paper he / she would not touch Ubuntu / Linux. The kids just want something that works - ALL the time
[06:52] <Sveta> Thr0r, it would help if you answered the questions more quickly
[06:54] <blackflow> Thr0r: I'm 41. Been doing this and teaching people how to use computers for over 20 years. You're confusing two different things. Your kids don't need a manpage to turn on the computer, click on the Firefox icon and play their web game of choice. But if you wanna dive into the command line, and use root privilege commands -- what do you think that entails? How simple do you think an OS that powers
[06:54] <blackflow> billions of devices, from smallest IoT to space friggin ships, should be?
[06:56] <st4rf0x64> Trying to install a package to my ubuntu server I get the error message that the package is not available but that it is referenced elsewhere. So it might be available elsewhere.
[06:57] <st4rf0x64> What do I make of this? - to further add to this I installed the very package without an issue on a different vm last night.
[07:01] <Sveta> st4rf0x64: what package is it, and what ubuntu version?
[07:02] <st4rf0x64> sudo apt install krb5-user - and I am running the latest LTS Server
[07:03] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, do you know which LTS is it?
[07:04] <st4rf0x64> 18.04.02 I would assume?
[07:04] <Sveta> if it is 18.04 (bionic), I see https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/krb5-user, I am surprised by this as well
[07:05] <st4rf0x64> I'm sorry but what does this mean?
[07:05] <Sveta> OK, I have one question for you
[07:05] <Sveta> did you pastebin a file before?
[07:05] <Sveta> I would like to see the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:05] <Sveta> you can copy paste it at http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the link
[07:06] <st4rf0x64> I've never done that before, but let me try
[07:06] <Sveta> thanks
[07:06] <st4rf0x64> Is there a simple way to copy text out of Oracle Virtualbox?
[07:06] <paul1us> Hi, I need some help with connecting to wifi. I have two issues, one is that I can only sometimes connect to my 5g network(it says that authentication required and when I give the correct password it does not take it.). the second one is that as of today some of the websites are not loading, spotify cannot connect either.
[07:06] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, you can take a screenshot and upload to www.imgur.com
[07:10] <blackflow> st4rf0x64: if your VM has internet connectivity, you can paste the file directly to a pastebin service.   `cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999`   and then post here the URL that command will return.
[07:11] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, write 'sudo emacs /etc/apt/sources.list', and at the end of each line add ' universe'
[07:11] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, save the file, 'apt update', and try to install that package again
[07:13] <st4rf0x64> I will try to do that - but is there any reason why yesterday night at home I could install the package without an issue and now I need to do all this? I might have to write a manual for this, so I need to know :sweat_smile:
[07:13] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, is it two different installs?
[07:13] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, I was reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/serverguide/+bug/1815825
[07:13] <st4rf0x64> They're both vms of the same ISO installed using the same settings afaik.
[07:14] <st4rf0x64> "emacs: command not found"
[07:14] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, try 'nano' or any other editor instead
[07:14] <st4rf0x64> Ah right nano
[07:14] <Sveta> I am leaving now, it is time for me to go home. Someone else will help you from here
[07:14] <Sveta> I hope it works
[07:15] <st4rf0x64> thank you for the help. When I add "univers" to the end of each line do I make it with a space? Or right after main
[07:16] <diskin> st4rf0x64, or use "pastebinit" command
[07:17] <diskin> (for creating online paste)
[07:18] <vlt> Hello. We get more and more PDF documents and when opening both on 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS see this message: "Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document." The document viewer's File->Properties info says it's a "PDF-1.7". What can we do about that?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> vlt: can we see a screenshot of that please
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> vlt: sure the pdf is not corrupt or so?
[07:21] <paul1us> Repost: Could you please help me with wifi. I have two issues, one is that I can only sometimes connect to my 5g network(it says that authentication required and when I give the correct password it does not take it.). the second one is that as of today some of the websites are not loading, spotify cannot connect either.
[07:23] <vlt> lotuspsychje: We get so many of them from differetn sources, so I would rule out a single corrupted file. I'm preparing a screenshot.
[07:27] <vlt> lotuspsychje: https://imgur.com/a/DZ905tg
[07:28] <asdfgh> hello friends, i asked months ago a good software to create bootable USB to install a fresh OS, could anyone remember me the name of that software?
[07:29] <blackflow> paul1us: 5g network? with wifi? nope. did you mean something else?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> vlt: wich evince version?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> !info evince bionic
[07:31] <paul1us> blackflow, thank you for responding. I have two networks, one is 2.4ghz the other one is 5ghz. Connecting via 5G is a secondary issue, I really need to have at least the 2.4 working fully.
[07:32] <asdfgh> http://multibootusb.org this ?
[07:33] <blackflow> paul1us: ah please use full GHz unit then :)  5g is terminology for cellular networks.  So what exactly is the symptom with the 2.4GHz connections?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: yes, i tested that in the past, but we dont officially support it here
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: whats your plan? mulitple linux distro's on 1 usb?
[07:34] <paul1us> blackflow, sorry for the misunderstanding. I was tinkering a bit with my hardware and now restarted the computer and 2.4 loads only certain websites
[07:34] <paul1us> I am preparing a pastebin now.
[07:34] <vlt> lotuspsychje: On MATE desktop the document viewer seems to be an evince fork called "atril" (version 1.20.1).
[07:35] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, no basically i have a laptop with win 10 and i want to remove it and install a fresh 18.04
[07:35] <paul1us> blackflow, https://pastebin.com/Btnaa1JA
[07:35] <asdfgh> but i remember another software ...lokking at its screenshot it does not see the last i have used
[07:35] <vlt> lotuspsychje: I tested the PDF import function of GIMP and get the same rendered image as visible in the screenshot. Seems to be some PDF reading library ...
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: but whats your end goal? make an ubuntu usb from windows then?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> vlt: is your system up to date?
[07:36] <jojero> Do I need to have XDG or is it okay no XDG_HOME something
[07:36] <jojero> coz nvm cant find it so I did it manually exported
[07:36] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Checking ...
[07:36] <blackflow> paul1us: and what's the actual problem? describe "loads only certain websites" with example.
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> vlt: maybe its an atril bug, could you try Mupdf as a test please?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> vlt: of if you have an online link to your pdf, i can check with evince for you if you want
[07:37] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, pardon, no no i am using 18.04 in this computer right now, so create a bootable usb from linux
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: for wich Os?
[07:38] <asdfgh> this is my deasktop computer, i want to create the USB here
[07:38] <asdfgh> 18.04 lts 2
[07:38] <asdfgh> basically i want the same
[07:38] <asdfgh> i have here
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: lets try again, wich Os would you like to install on your usb?
[07:39] <paul1us> youtube loads only partialy - I see the logo, and some html, pastebin loads, spotify does not connect. When websites fail to load completely, like for example dell.com I get a message saying this site can't be reached. server IP address could not be found. ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED.
[07:39] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, 18.04 everywhere :)
[07:39] <paul1us> blackflow: the comment above
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: so create the usb with the ubuntu usb creator?
[07:40] <vlt> lotuspsychje: I'm currently updating libpoppler73:amd64 (0.62.0-2ubuntu2.8 ==> 0.62.0-2ubuntu2.9) and will try Mupdf, thanks. Unfortunately, I can't publish any of the example files.
[07:40] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, ok i will install it... but as i told you above i remember a different usb creator
[07:40] <asdfgh> however ok, thanks
[07:41] <blackflow> asdfgh: can't you just copy the ISO file to the USB device?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> vlt: another idea is to launch atril from terminal, maybe you can catch usefull errors?
[07:42] <asdfgh> blackflow, i remember problems without a bootable usb
[07:42] <asdfgh> i try
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !usb | asdfgh start here
[07:43] <blackflow> asdfgh: Assuming the device is /dev/sdc when you plug it in,  run   `sudo cp /path/to/your/ubuntu.iso /dev/sdc` in the terminal.  No additional software required, no fiddling. Note that this copies the contents of the ISO file byte per byte to the device itself, not to a partition or a filesystem on the device. Device itself.
[07:43] <blackflow> asdfgh: and check out the links lotuspsychje just gave you
[07:45] <blackflow> paul1us: are there any wifi connectivity issues or resets being logged by the kernel, when that happens?  You can check with `journalctl -ke`
[07:46] <paul1us> blackflow, https://pastebin.com/DUikMep6
[07:47] <asdfgh> thanks
[07:48] <blackflow> paul1us: is this the activity that occurs at the same time you try websites and they file to load? same time = within a second or few?
[07:48] <blackflow> *fail
[07:48] <Goop> How do you install Ubuntu minimallistically? Like, I want to install a desktop environment, but I don't Firefox, Libre Office, etc..
[07:50] <paul1us> blackflow, sorry I had no idea that I need to do it just after loading a website. here is the activity report just after failing to load something: https://pastebin.com/9pRWA1RM
[07:50] <blackflow> Goop: like this?  https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-18-04-minimal-install-option
[07:52] <paul1us> blackflow,  most of the stuf taht happens at 47:47 is red.
[07:54] <vlt> lotuspsychje: atril with current libpoppler shows the same image, and also Mupdf. Trying to install the "real" evince now.
[07:56] <cbx33> Hi all, anyone know where I can get files from one of the old beta installs of Ubuntu?
[07:56] <blackflow> paul1us: line 14.... sounds like faulty firmware
[07:57] <paul1us> blackflow, what can I do?
[07:57] <cbx33> oh I may have it
[07:57] <blackflow> cbx33: maybe from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[07:58] <cbx33> yeh that may be it
[07:58] <cbx33> looking for the old startup sound I made for Edgy :)
[07:58] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Same result: https://imgur.com/1XoUj7X
[07:58] <paul1us> blackflow, another thing that happend(not sure how related).. I am dualbooting, and after my tinkering grub was being skipped and I was booted straight into windows. I had to fix it from windows. might this have had an impact?
[07:58] <cbx33> Thanks @blackflow
[07:58] <blackflow> paul1us: well, make sure `linux-firmware` package is up to date, reboot for any updates of it. And/or file a bug report against it. Make sure you submit that very output from your last pastebin, that's critical
[07:59] <paul1us> blackflow, ok, I will reboot, and get back to you.
[07:59] <paul1us> thank you
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> vlt: try this pdf: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/94f3/b35cc7a47241d8e7677478e01e6c9029fa7d.pdf
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> vlt: https://askubuntu.com/questions/752425/how-to-open-a-pdf-form-file-that-says-please-wait
[08:06] <paul1us> blackflow, seemingly I was just using a browser which was was seemingly blocking some of the content. as firefox now loading things it should be loading.
[08:06] <paul1us> thank you
[08:07] <blackflow> yeah no that was not it but okay...
[08:08] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Using your example file, atril, mupdf and evince all show a 6 page file "Types of Firewalls" without problems (except for the missing file Dsmtoc.pdf when clicking the "Contents" page thumbnail). But this is "PDF-1.2".
[08:09] <cbx33> blackflow, argh, they don't have the beta iso there
[08:09] <cbx33> no worries
[08:18] <hortiel> hi
[08:18] <EriC^^> hello
[08:18] <hortiel> which package should I install to install qt5
[08:18] <hortiel> there are tons of packages including pyqt5
[08:22] <EriC^^> hortiel: what are you trying to install that you need qt5?
[08:29] <Thr0r> Ubutto: ppa
[08:30] <Thr0r> Ubutto: backports ppa
[08:31] <Thr0r> hmm..
[08:31] <ryuo> ubottu: ppa
[08:34] <Thr0r> ryuo; Ah - Ubottu it was - Thanks!
[08:36] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Thanks for pointing me to the askubuntu thread. We'll ask people to stop sending us PDF documents with XFA elements.
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> good luck vlt
[08:37] <dan101> is ext4 bad for ssd?
[08:37] <EriC^^> dan101: no
[08:38] <dan101> EriC^^: that was fas
[08:38] <dan101> fast
[08:38] <EriC^^> easy question
[08:38] <dan101> EriC^^: Read something about journaling file systems being bad for ssd
[08:39] <dan101> EriC^^: One reason for which Apple created their new APPFS
[08:39] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Ironically the last one came from the company that yearly certifies our ISO-something compliance :D
[08:39] <dan101> EriC^^: probably shitty article
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !language | dan101
[08:39] <dan101> sorry
[08:40] <vlt> Did they say Apple again?
[08:41] <EriC^^> dan101: dunno, i've noticed however in lots of blogs/articles whatever they mostly want something to talk about, it might be 'bad' but how bad is probably very little if anything
[08:41] <EriC^^> ^ that goes for most 'discoveries' and stuff in our modern day
[08:42] <dan101> EriC^^: right. Yeah they were complaining that the fs was not build with ssd in mind, and that for Linux one should use btrfs
[08:43] <EriC^^> heh :D
[08:45] <Thr0r> How can we know it a nick is a Bot or not? Q to the Moderator here - Dax:  or what he is called..
[08:45] <Thr0r> *IF
[08:45] <EriC^^> Thr0r: the only bot is ubottu , Drone  and Sigyn are banning ops
[08:45] <EriC^^> i mean banning bots
[08:46] <blackflow> how do they know which nick is a bot?
[08:47] <Ool> a bot to ban ops :)
[08:47] <Thr0r> Well - "pursuivant" in #Plasma is a bot too....
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> lets stick to ubuntu issues please
[08:50] <Thr0r> lotuspsychje; And how come my Q is not Ubuntu Issue? Since I am running Kubuntu?
[08:50] <ryuo> Thr0r: IRC questions are not Ubuntu questions.
[08:52] <Thr0r> ryuo: Please explain..
[08:53] <ryuo> Thr0r: see #ubuntu-offtopic. i won't say more here.
[09:00] <tnewman> salutations all!  i'm attempting to setup pi-hole using docker-compose, which works BUT, i want to make a virtual interface which pulls another dhcp IP
[09:01] <tnewman> the problem is we need this box to be a webserver (nginx)
[09:01] <tnewman> and it appears that pi-hole needs to use :80 for it to be used properly by clients
[09:02] <tnewman> so i was thinking it'd be good to have a virtual interface with a different ip (dhcp) that pihole can use, separate from the one nginx would be serving stuff on
[09:03] <tnewman> i could create a libvirt vm to put pihole stuff in, but that seems excessive
[09:05] <tnewman> ubuntu disco btw
[09:13] <Thr0r> lotuspsychje: Kind of scary this IRC chat.. I was sure it was some kind of official support channel this..
[09:15] <ayekat> Thr0r: IRC is not scary :-)  some channels just have very strict rules about what you can discuss - this channel is for ubuntu support, while your question was not related to ubuntu
[09:18] <Thr0r> ayekat: K - I really don't care anymore. If Q's about Ubottu and it's like is not relevant here - Then Thats fine- I don't care really...
[09:21] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, did you fix it?
[09:21] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, you need the space first, and then the word 'universe'
[09:21] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, on each of these lines which ends with 'main'
[09:21] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, so it was '... main', it becomes '... main universe'
[09:22] <st4rf0x64> I did that! :D But it didn't fix the issue sadly.
[09:22] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, then 'apt update', and try installing the package again
[09:42] <galgamach> Hi all. We have a way old server with Lucid Lynx on it. The openSsl version is OpenSSL 0.9.8k   is there any possibility to upgrade OpenSSL or do you guys think it should be better to upgrade the entire OS ?
[09:45] <akik> galgamach: entire os
[09:46] <galgamach> akik: not any other possibility ?
[09:47] <akik> galgamach: no support from this channel for lucid
[09:49] <legreffier> galgamach: pretty sure there are backport of openssl, still upgrading the os is a better option.
[09:49] <legreffier> what you have right won't receive security-updates otherwise
[09:51] <galgamach> legreffier: I was thinking of building the latest version of OpenSSl manually instead of changing the entire OS. But I'm afraid of any dependencies that might brake
[09:59] <legreffier> galgamach: exactly for this reason.
[10:02] <CoolerZ> how do i do a full update, upgrade, do-release-upgrade silently on ubuntu 18.04 ignoring errors due to failing ppas?
[10:06] <EriC^^> CoolerZ: you cant
[10:07] <EriC^^> CoolerZ: apt needs to be in a stable state to do the ugprade
[10:08] <EriC^^> fix the ppa stuff
[10:14] <jojero> Cool
[10:14] <jojero> ubuntu is much cooler, if I cant install driver with GUI I did it with terminal, wow its working now!
[10:14] <jojero> better than windows <3 much power!
[10:41] <baruna> hello, I have a 23 lcd and I had 1920x1080 resolution but I restarted and now I only have 1024x768 which is extremely annoying and can't choose the original one in the Monitor Settings.. any idea how to change it?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> baruna: ubuntu version and graphics card chipset please?
[10:46] <baruna> lotuspsychje: 19.04 and don't know the graphics card
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> baruna: you can check with: sudo lshw -C video
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> baruna: the chipset and driver= are usefull to know
[10:47] <baruna> lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/luie
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> baruna: thank you, seems like your nvidia card is running on nouveau, reccomended is the nvidia driver
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> baruna: check wich drivers are available for your system with: ubuntu-drivers list
[10:49] <baruna> lotuspsychje: nvidia-driver-390
[10:49] <baruna>  and nvidia-340
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> baruna: ok, try sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390 and reboot after
[10:50] <Sveta> st4rf0x64, did it start working after 'apt update'?
[10:50] <st4rf0x64> I'm sorry, I have not tried yet Sveta. I'm working on something different rn :sweat_smile:
[10:50] <baruna> lotuspsychje: ok, tnx
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> baruna: after your reboot, we can check again if the 390 driver picked up
[10:55] <baruna> lotuspsychje: I'm rebooting now
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[11:01] <baruna> baruna: so I rebooted. I have more options on the internal lcd but still the same with the external lcd
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> baruna: pastebin again please: sudo lshw -C video
[11:04] <baruna> lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/jeop
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> baruna: okay tnx, nvidia driver is loaded, can you check nvidia-settings now if your profile is set to performance mode or powersaving mode?
[11:08] <baruna> lotuspsychje: Preferred Mode: Auto
[11:08] <baruna> Current Mode: Adaptive
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> baruna: this is the section you need: https://verummeum.com/img/blog/2018/nvidia-optimus/nvidia-optimus-settings.jpg
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> greetings cfhowlett
[11:11] <cfhowlett> yowzz ^3 lotuspsychje!
[11:11] <baruna> lotuspsychje: I have this NVIDIA Performance Mode checked
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> baruna: ok good! so now lets have a look at your systemsettings/devices/display
[11:12] <baruna> lotuspsychje: I can make a screen but I have it in Czech language
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> sure thanks baruna
[11:14] <cfhowlett> baruna, here's how to switch to English output https://askubuntu.com/questions/264283/switch-command-output-language-from-native-language-to-english#264709
[11:14] <cfhowlett> export LC_ALL=C
[11:15] <cfhowlett> unset LC_ALL         to switch back go to Czech
[11:18] <baruna> cfhowlett: but the monitor settings are still in CS
[11:18] <baruna> cfhowlett: anyway: https://i.imgur.com/FJmHKXs.png
[11:18] <cfhowlett> baruna, ah, I thought you were working from command line.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> baruna: ah, you are on lubuntu
[11:20] <baruna> cfhowlett: so what should I type to terminal?
[11:20] <baruna> lotuspsychje: yes
[11:20] <baruna> I can switch to ubuntu though
[11:21] <cfhowlett> no difference as far as the nvidia settings are concerned
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> baruna: havent tested in a while, but you could try arandr
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | baruna
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> baruna: from gnome3 settings you can choose options, like mirror screens or stretch
[11:23] <baruna> lotuspsychje: there's still only this "small" resulition and not the bigger I want
[11:23] <baruna> lotuspsychje: in arandr
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> baruna: did your screen resolution ever work from ubuntu on that specific card?
[11:24] <baruna> lotuspsychje: yes! I was using it for 6 months.. all changed after I installed some updates and restarted
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> baruna: is your system up to date also?
[11:25] <baruna> lotuspsychje: ah I have 18.04 and not 19.04, sorry for this
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> baruna: yes i know, i mean is your 18.04 system up to date?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | baruna
[11:27] <baruna> lotuspsychje: well this is what I did yesterday and after restarting this resolution problem appeared
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> ok
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> baruna: how is your external screen connected?
[11:28] <baruna> lotuspsychje: vga cable
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> baruna: did you try a replug yet?
[11:28] <baruna> lotuspsychje: no
[11:29] <baruna> lotuspsychje: tried now but no change
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> baruna: you can try if you like, can you also pastebin your dpkg logs from /var/log please, lets take a look wich updates came
[11:31] <baruna> lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/fpr9
[11:32] <baruna> that's dpkg.log
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> baruna: uname -a please?
[11:33] <st4rf0x64> Sveta thank you very much!
[11:34] <baruna> lotuspsychje: Linux jamestown 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> baruna: was that your full dpkg log or just a piece?
[11:37] <baruna> lotuspsychje: it was file /var/log/dpkg.log and there's also dpkg.log.1
[11:37] <baruna> and some more gzipped logs
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> baruna: im missing some dpkg logs from your yesterday updates
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> baruna: would be interesting to know what happened
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> ioria: another mystery, baruna here has 18.04 lubuntu uptodate, with nvidia/intel optimus with dualscreens, resolution was higher for 6months, vanished after updates, was on nouveau, now on 390
[11:39] <baruna> lotuspsychje: I did apt-get update & upgrade and there were lots of updates, some 300 MBs I think
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> baruna: so you waited long to update, then yesterday you did them all in once correct?
[11:40] <baruna> lotuspsychje: yes
[11:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje, did he tried a previous kernel ?
[11:41] <ioria> *try
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> not yet ioria
[11:41] <wpk> I have a portable disk that's luks-encrypted that I want to be mounted automatically when it's connected; I have a proper entry in /etc/crypttab and it works -except- when I'm booting it waits 90 seconds for the disk to appear. How can I avoid it?
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> baruna: try ioria 's idea, boot previous kernel as a test, at grub boot
[11:43] <baruna> lotuspsychje: ok
[11:43] <baruna> give me a minute guys
[11:44] <baruna> * this irc is on my vps so I stay connected
[12:00] <bviktor> guys, i need a hand with apt-mirror, coz this is starting to be driving me nuts.
[12:00] <bviktor> this is mirror.list: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/28ncRRY3Rk/
[12:00] <bviktor> this is sources.list on the client: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9PZ4s93MQw/
[12:00] <bviktor> this is the web server structure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TKvNCYj7s4/
[12:00] <bviktor> and this happens on apt update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2fw7fC5388/
[12:00] <bviktor> WHY on earth is apt looking for Components-*amd64*.yml on the arm64 mirror?
[12:01] <bviktor> i commented out the bionic-updates, bionic-backports and restricted/universe/multiverse parts to speed up testing, but it's the same with them
[12:02] <bviktor> server is ubuntu 18.04 on centos 7 via debootstrap, client is ubuntu 18.04, obviously
[12:03] <bviktor> i've tried `apt purge apt-mirror && rm -rf /var/spool/apt-mirror && apt install apt-mirror` but nope, it's the same after several tries
[12:04] <bviktor> did `apt clean && apt autoclean` on the client, too
[12:05] <bviktor> btw there's no Components-*.yml anywhere in the tree. only, Components-*.yml.gz and Components-*.yml.xz
[12:07] <thsnr> bviktor: i have no experience with apt-mirror, but apt looks for files listed in <mirror>/dists/<dist>/Release
[12:07] <thsnr> (can also be InRelease, if signed inline)
[12:07] <thsnr> does taht file contain "main/dep11/Components-amd64.yml"?
[12:14] <baruna> lotuspsychje: I didn't figure out how to boot a different kernel, lol
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> baruna: hold shift to enter grub, then choose ubuntu(previous) kernel
[12:19] <baruna> lotuspsychje: shift? I tried F2 and F12. ok
[12:20] <criptocervantes> is this the main place to discuss ubuntu, or are there other locations?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | criptocervantes
[12:30] <baruna> lotuspsychje: I'm in 4.12.0.52 kernel now but all is the same as in 54
[12:32] <ioria> baruna, uname -r
[12:33] <baruna> ioria: 4.15.0-52-generic
[12:33] <ioria> baruna, can you paste  lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ?
[12:34] <baruna> ioria: https://termbin.com/mcuz
[12:35] <ioria> baruna, and what's the problem exactly ?
[12:36] <baruna> ioria: I have an external 23'' LCD. Used to have 1920x1080 resolution but after some updates and reinstall I can only use 1024x768 which is horrible and makes my eyes painful
[12:37] <ioria> baruna, what  you mean with 'reinstall' ?
[12:37] <baruna> ioria: ah I mean I did sudo apt update & upgrade
[12:38] <ioria> baruna,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:38] <baruna> ioria: https://termbin.com/curj
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:39] <ioria> baruna,  so nvidia is installed and you are using nouveau ???
[12:39] <ioria> baruna,  cat /proc/cmdline    (yoou can paste here)
[12:40] <baruna> ioria: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.15.0-52-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=
[12:40] <baruna> lotuspsychje suggested I boot into a previous kernel
[12:41] <ioria> baruna,  reboot on 54, and we try to purge nvidia
[12:41] <baruna> ioria: ok
[12:42] <courrier> I've asked my 18.04 to stop when the power button is pressed but it does not.
[12:42] <courrier> Instead, it shows a "60 sec shutdown request" if the screen is unlocked, otherwise if locked it only wakes up the monitor.
[12:42] <courrier> How can I configure it so that it actually triggers shutdown?
[12:45] <baruna> ioria: 4.15.0-54-generic ow
[12:45] <baruna> now
[12:46] <ioria> baruna, paste again  lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' , please
[12:47] <baruna> ioria: https://termbin.com/osdz
[12:49] <ioria> baruna, can you paste xrandr ?
[12:49] <baruna> ioria: https://termbin.com/6e4u
[12:51] <ioria> baruna, well, it's not set to 1024x768  but to 848x480 !
[12:51] <baruna> ioria: yes now after I rebooted into 54
[12:51] <ioria> baruna,  cat /proc/cmdline  again please
[12:52] <baruna> ioria: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.15.0-54-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[12:53] <ioria> baruna,  is this ubuntu or lubuntu ?
[12:53] <baruna> ioria: lubuntu
[12:53] <baruna> lubuntu 18.04
[12:53] <ioria> baruna,  so you're already using lightdm ....
[12:54] <ioria> baruna,  try to install  the arandr package
[12:54] <bviktor> thsnr, yup, it does containt amd64.yml. much like on ports.ubuntu.com.
[12:55] <bviktor> and ports.ubuntu.com also lacks that file, so i don't understand why apt only fails on the local mirror
[12:55] <bviktor> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/bionic/
[12:56] <bviktor> why would apt look for amd64 files for an arm64 entry anyway
[13:00] <bviktor> what's the best platform to ask about this? askubuntu? serverfault?
[13:00] <bviktor> ubuntu forums?
[13:01] <baruna> ioria: already installed before
[13:02] <Pynthon> Hey, can I ask questions about clonezilla here?
[13:02] <miguel2013> how can I check if my ubuntu has graphics acceleration
[13:15] <friendlyGoat> anyone here know about plymouth and adjusting the kernel mode setting? i cant fix an issue that started with an update a while back. my boot-up splash screen is super simple and just normal text instead of what its supposed to be but when im shutting down the splash screen is normal. i tried something to fix it before which didnt work, i then tried reinstalling plymouth which resulted in me having to reinstall my gui for some 
[13:15] <friendlyGoat> son and still my splash screen isnt working how it used to.
[13:16] <thsnr> bviktor: i scoured your links once more and could not think of anything wrong, so i'm out of ideas :/
[13:16] <bviktor> thanks a lot anyway, i'm about to finish writing up the askubuntu question :)
[13:19] <bviktor> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1155470/apt-is-unsuccessfully-looking-for-components-amd64-yml-on-arm64-repo-set-up-wi
[13:20] <bviktor> any input welcome
[13:27] <st4rf0x64> Trying to edit a file using Nano - in ubuntu server. When trying to save it gives me the error message permission denied. How do I resolve such issue?
[13:27] <Ool> st4rf0x64: which file ?
[13:28] <SwedeMike> st4rf0x64: do you care about the edits you have done so far? can you re-do them?
[13:28] <st4rf0x64> smb.conf
[13:28] <st4rf0x64> I could re-do them, would prefer not to but I can :joy:
[13:28] <SwedeMike> st4rf0x64: probably you need to do "sudo" before, to get administrator permissions before editing
[13:29] <st4rf0x64> ah sweet
[13:29] <SwedeMike> st4rf0x64: save the edits to /tmp or something instead then
[13:30] <st4rf0x64> Thank you very much, that resolved the issue.
[13:31] <Ool> arf without know linux permission it can be difficult to configure samba
[13:43] <st4rf0x64> When I am in a directory and want to create config file there, how do I go about doing that?
[13:49] <vlt> st4rf0x64: `touch the_file` or `echo somthing > the_file`
[13:50] <vlt> st4rf0x64: Or with an editor like vim: `vim the_file`. That will just create it.
[13:50] <st4rf0x64> Sweet
[13:50] <st4rf0x64> Thank you
[13:54] <st4rf0x64> vlt it wouldn't let me save the file? Now I try sudo touch filename but that doesn't seem to do anything
[14:15] <mistawright> hi guys having some issues with sshing into a servers in my vpc. the user is able to ssh into the bastion and the same key is on the end host but we get denied due to public key. https://pastebin.com/etNugDdE here is a paste showing what i am experiencing
[14:21] <gimmic> I moved from 18.04 LTS to 19.04 to hopefully work out some kernel issues I'd been having with AMD FirePro W5100
[14:21] <gimmic> doesn't seem to have worked out in my favor
[14:22] <cbx33> Would love to get hold of an ubuntu edgy beta
[14:22] <cbx33> iso
[14:22] <cbx33> anyone know if they are still available anywhere
[14:23] <tonyt> cbx33 check out http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/6.10/?_ga=2.54973358.441876690.1562077388-465980128.1561139098 ?
[14:24] <cbx33> tonyt, unfortunately, this isn't the beta one
[14:24] <crankharder> mounting an nfs client - how come I can only see the folders directly in the share, but no files, and no nested folder/files?  Everythign is 777 on the server.  I'm mounting with defaults
[14:25] <tonyt> 16.10 is the beta
[14:25] <tonyt> from what it says
[14:25]  * tonyt shrugs
[14:45] <Forty-3> what's the correct way to set the default python3 to python3.7?
[14:46] <Forty-3> there's no update-alternatives setting for it
[14:51] <vlt> Forty-3: I like pyenv.
[14:51] <Forty-3> looking for something global
[14:51] <Forty-3> I am well aware of the various sandboxes for python
[15:06] <pragmaticenigma> Forty-3: The issue with setting it global is it will impact python libraries that Ubuntu installs as part of it tool set. If there are features that no longer work in the latest version of Python it will break things like apt, apt-get, ufw to name a few.
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> Forty-3: If you want just your user to have the ability, you can add it to your bash profile as an alias
[15:13] <cgi> anyone knows what is a good way to upgrade openssl versions on ubuntu? perhaps there is a good ppa ? I am on 16.04LTS.
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> !lastest | cgi
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> !latest | cgi
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: openssl is depended on by a lot of packages in Ubuntu. Trying to upgrade it to the latest will cause other applications to break. That would include but not be limited to SSH, wget, curl, and more
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: For what purpose do you feel you need to upgrade the version?
[15:26] <entry_lvl_dev> is kubernetes a paid service?
[15:27] <entry_lvl_dev> like aws or is it like odcker
[15:27] <entry_lvl_dev> docker
[15:27] <lordcirth> entry_lvl_dev, kubernetes is a free/open source docker management system. You can host it yourself or rent one
[15:29] <entry_lvl_dev> lordcirth: awesome thanks
[15:33] <entry_lvl_dev> not sure if this is the right place to talk about it, but when it comes to 'scaling' i heard of 'scaling' in aws where you can run a copy of a instance if you need more resources. but how does it work exactly, i see kubernetes does 'scaling' itself.  so theres somethin that triggers the scaling and then kubenetes makes a copy of itself and now automatically becomes a load balancer? or do i have the concept
[15:33] <entry_lvl_dev> wrong. sorry if this is not the right channel for this type of discussion
[15:36] <Pricey> entry_lvl_dev: Jumping straight into kubernetes is likely a mistake, look at aws autoscaling groups first if you like, then maybe look at docker. Then look at kubernetes.
[15:37] <Pricey> And maybe, though optionally, have a problem before deciding on the solution ;-)
[15:37] <entry_lvl_dev> Pricey: true thanks
[15:37] <Pricey> You definitely want a basic knowledge of docker before looking at kubernetes thoguh.
[15:37] <entry_lvl_dev> well i dont plan to use a paid service.  i rather stick with my own arch for my small web development Pricey
[15:38] <entry_lvl_dev> Pricey: definitely, i have some docker information. some basics
[15:38] <entry_lvl_dev> but i agree Pricey
[15:44] <Pricey> entry_lvl_dev: If you don't want to use a paid service, you likely won't be operating at scale requiring docker/kubernetes.
[15:44] <Pricey> Or at a scale where they make sense.
[15:45] <entry_lvl_dev> Pricey: i see, i thought kubernetes would still have that feature, maybe one builds a big infrastructure with extra resources on the side for those instances etc.
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> Pricey, entry_lvl_dev please understand that this channel is intended for Ubuntu support. If you could, please consider moving your conversation to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel or direct messaging each other.
[15:49] <entry_lvl_dev> pragmaticenigma: no problem will do thank you
[15:54] <bviktor> thsnr, it seems to be an ubuntu bug. /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50appstream has $(NATIVE_ARCHITECTURE) specified, you replace those occurences with $(ARCHITECTURE) and the issues are gone.
[15:55] <Pricey> pragmaticenigma: Sorry for disturbing your conversation.
[16:15] <cgi> pragmaticenigma, thanks. I need to upgrade openssl because i am running nginx webserver, and the new openssl's support better TLS versions with easier configuration options
[16:16] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: Why are you not running nginx that comes available in Ubuntu Repositories?
[16:18] <cgi> pragmaticenigma, nginx - 1.17.1-1~xenial is what I am running
[16:18] <cgi> pragmaticenigma, https://nginx.org/
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> cgi: If you are running nginx as provided from the default ubuntu repostories, that is configured to work with the version of OpenSSL that also is provided by the Ubuntu package repository. If you were to upgrade OpenSSL to a newer version, it is very likely going to break your nginx installation
[16:21] <cgi> pragmaticenigma, thanks
[16:21] <cgi> I'll stick to the older openssl till i move to 18.04
[17:13] <cyberpolice> is  there no task manager in ubuntu
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> cyberpolice: Look for system monitor
[17:14] <cyberpolice> oh i see
[17:30] <cyberpolice> you told me about udisksctl, i want to ask about providing argument of --block-device /dev/sdb, do i provide sdb or sdb1, and what if there is sdb2 there as well in case of providing plain sdb
[17:32] <becool> hi- is there a good, free tool for seeing/managing resources for all of my ubuntu servers from a single (mostly) dashboard?
[17:33] <becool> they're all running ec2 instances in aws, but i don't want to be stuck using native aws tools so i remain as cloud agnostic as possible
[17:43] <pragmaticenigma> cyberpolice: You need to provide the actual partition, so /dev/sdb1
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not sure about multiple partitions, as I haven't personally encountered that before and what might happen
[17:46] <lordcirth> becool, what do you mean by "seeing resources"? Like, seeing system load?
[17:46] <becool> lordcirth: yes
[17:46] <becool> lordcirth: something like landscape
[17:47] <lordcirth> becool, there are many. Prometheus is popular, as is Grafana
[17:48] <cyberpolice> i think there is also netdata
[17:48] <becool> lordcirth: will those tools also do security patch/update management as well?
[17:49] <lordcirth> becool, no, most monitoring tools don't do updates. You could just enable unattended-upgrades, if that's what you want.
[17:50] <becool> lordcirth: does unattended-upgrades do only critical/important updates without touching any other packages? also, what if i need to rollback if an update breaks something?
[17:51] <sarnold> becool: the default configuration of unattended-upgrades should only do security updates, not bugfix updates
[17:52] <becool> sarnold: is there a good tool, preferable web dashboard accessible, that can tell me which systems are up to date or need updates?
[17:54] <sarnold> becool: landscape (a product from canonical) can do that; there's some small number of free licenses if you want to try it out https://landscape.canonical.com/
[17:54] <becool> sarnold: thanks, i'll check it out
[17:57] <skyark> Hi, i was compiling a package through ssh from ubuntu and when all the data start to show in the terminal (letters and letters faster and faster) the desktop begin to slow down the mouse was slow, then i run htop and everything was ok. The compiling process was in other PC. When the compiling stop and the terminal stop showing the data the Desktop came back to the usual speed
[17:57] <other_rick> Hi, someone knows a tool to obtain metrics of the video rendering? frames per second
[17:58] <lordcirth> other_rick, rendering using what?
[17:59] <lordcirth> skyark, displaying text in a terminal really fast can sometimes use CPU. How many cores did the client have?
[17:59] <sarnold> skyark: terminal output can make a compile go way slower
[17:59] <skyark> 8 i have a core i7
[18:02] <lordcirth> skyark, I would turn down verbosity. You could also try using mosh, perhaps.
[18:02] <skyark> today i will compile again
[18:03] <skyark> will try to monitor the situation
[18:23] <john_rambo> While trying to copy a file from a data DVD I am getting "error splicing file input/output error" ...Is there a way yo fix this ?
[18:25] <sarnold> what tool were you using?
[18:25] <sarnold> are there any errors in dmesg?
[18:25] <EriC^^> john_rambo: did you try cleaning the dvd maybe that helps?
[18:25] <john_rambo> sarnold, pcmanfm
[18:25] <sarnold> john_rambo: alright, try cp instead, maybe it'll give a better error message
[18:25] <tomreyn> john_rambo: see "dmesg | tail" - either the dvd or the target you're copying to is having an issue, likely a hardware issue.
[18:26] <john_rambo> EriC^^, I just cleaned the dvd with plain water didnt help
[19:43] <RainMan28_> hi all -- I have a script which runs fine when i'm logged in as root and run it manually, however when i set a cronjob to run it, it doesn't work. I edited crontab and added the line for the script while i was logged in as the root user. Not sure what I am doing wrong here.
[19:49] <dmnur_> RainMan28_: hello. Can you please provide more details? What does the script do? If you can, please show the script itself (use e.g. paste.ubuntu.com).
[19:52] <RainMan28_> hey dmnur_ thanks for the reply! I actually figured it out. It was an issue with the path not being correct when cron runs vs when i'm logged in myself
[19:52] <RainMan28_> I added in the path at the top of the script and it works now
[19:54] <dmnur_> RainMan28_: glad to hear. :)
[19:56] <cyberpolice>  in badblocks, is the % listed for the first pattern only or the whole 4 pattern? Testing with pattern 0xaa:  15.44% done, 1:32:28 elapsed. (0/0/0 errors)
[19:58] <Oderus> has anyone ever had incompatability issues reading an external ntfs drive (using ntfs-3g for writing) when plugging the device into a windows machine
[19:59] <lordcirth> Oderus, what happens when you try?
[19:59] <teward> Oderus: only on very old versions of ntfs-3g and Ubuntu
[20:03] <dmnur_> cyberpolice: the badblocks manual says that the percentage is displayed for the current pass, and that multiple patterns are tested one by one, using multiple passes.
[20:04] <Jonopoly> linux is making my laptop a bit warm
[20:04] <Jonopoly> and it's very anti-good
[20:04] <cyberpolice> oh that is not good for me. too much time
[20:05] <cyberpolice> dmnur_: as far as i know, its one pass = 4 tests. but you said multiple aptterns are tested one by one, using multiple passes. what do you mean
[20:06] <cyberpolice> by default badblocks tests 1 pass (4 patterns)
[20:07] <lordcirth> Jonopoly, look into tlp and/or powertop
[20:08] <cyberpolice> the 4 patterns are -t 0 -t 95 -t 197 -t 255 (corresponding to 0x00 0x55 0xaa -0xff) and they compose 1 pass
[20:09] <Jonopoly> lordcirth: https://pastebin.com/ZUuUhEvh That's my Powertop
[20:13] <dmnur_> cyberpolice: ah, I see. So it's one pass for all tests. I misunderstood then, that should be the total progress for all patterns on the current pass.
[20:15] <bilb_ono> whats wrong with my symbolic link? sudo ln /etc/apache2/sites-available/prod2.femtotest.com /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/prod2.femtotest.com
[20:15] <bilb_ono> it just seems to copy it rather than making a link
[20:15] <dmnur_> bilb_ono: it's not symbolic, it's a hard link. You need to use `ln -s`.
[20:20] <dmnur_> bilb_ono: also, for Apache on Ubuntu you can just use `sudo a2ensite prod2.femtotest.com`. That will create the link automatically.
[20:20] <Oderus> lordcirth: teward: well, i got an external hdd. it came preformatted ntfs. so I wrote a lot of data to said drive in linux with no issues at all. now when i plug it into a windows laptop, it tells me the drive is corrupted. i plug it back into my linux machine and all the data is perfectly fine.
[20:20] <lordcirth> Oderus, run chkdsk?
[20:21] <teward> ^
[20:22] <Oderus> lordcirth: i did not try that, i was concerned it was corrupted since thats what it told me. the drive is brand new, the smart data in my linux partition manager says the drive has 0 issues however
[20:23] <deltab> Oderus: the linux ntfs doesn't update all of the data structures that windows does, which is harmless but so the discrepancies are detected by windows
[20:23] <teward> Oderus: I think what you're seeing is "A problem was detected"
[20:24] <deltab> you can tell windows to repair the disk
[20:24] <teward> that doesn't mean *corruption*
[20:24] <teward> it just means that Windows sees a slight discrepancy that is mostly harmless
[20:24] <teward> usually
[20:24] <Oderus> teward: it says the disk is inaccessable and is corrupted
[20:24] <teward> we can't see the exact error message you're seeing so a screenshot uploaded to imgur and linked mioght be useful
[20:25] <Oderus> "E:\ cannot access disk. Disk may be corrupted or damaged" is the error message
[20:26] <Oderus> currently cannot screenshot it since I am moving all the data back off teh drive to my linux machine x.x
[20:26] <deltab> have you backed up the data?
[20:26] <deltab> ah, you're doing that, good
[20:27] <Oderus> also, i used rsync to move data to the drive. could that cause more problems than using simple copy from command line or using file manager?
[20:27] <cyberpolice> dmnur_: the way its written makes me think that its the % for the current test in the one pass that i initiated, not the overall % for all tests in the one pass. the ocnfusion is because 0xaa is the first test pattern even though i said the 4 patterns are 0x00 0x55 0xaa 0xff, i do not know the exact order. because its the first pattern, it could be either % for the current test, or % for whole test, no way to tell till 2nd
[20:27] <cyberpolice> pattern
[20:28] <deltab> Oderus: shouldn't make any difference which program you use to copy data -- it's the same code underneath writing it
[20:28] <Jonopoly> Anyone had any experience with asus tuf gaming laptops being warmer than usual when running linux?
[20:28] <Oderus> deltab: is there a particular file system that both windows and linux can use that is properly used?
[20:29] <lordcirth> Oderus, exfat maybe?
[20:29] <Jonopoly> Fat32?
[20:29] <dmnur_> Oderus: can you please show the `fdisk -l` command output? (Use e.g. paste.ubuntu.com.)
[20:29] <deltab> the FAT filesystems are pretty straightforward and widely used
[20:29] <Tukan> IS NTFS bad ?
[20:30] <deltab> but not great for performance or features
[20:31] <Oderus> unsure if ntfs is bad, but after writing some 700GB to an external drive in NTFS, windows will not access the drive
[20:31] <deltab> you may find that it all becomes accessible after a chkdsk
[20:32] <Tukan> BTRFS for windows, ZFS for windows are published on github
[20:32] <Oderus> deltab: i will try that after the backup finishes but will be a few hours at least
[20:32] <lordcirth> btrfs on windows, that sounds stable :P
[20:32] <Tukan> I tried BTRFS for Windows but BSOD was every 10 minutes
[20:32] <deltab> Tukan: how reliable are they though?
[20:33] <deltab> ah
[20:33] <Oderus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CPqfntjrRh/ is my fdisk -l output
[20:33] <Tukan> Windows 10
[20:33] <deltab> does WSL include any filesystem support?
[20:35] <Oderus> all I know is that it came pre-formatted NTFS and i wrote a lot of data to it using Kubuntu 19.04 and ntfs-3g. Then when i plug it into a windows machine, it tells me the disk is inaccessable, though it does mount it as e:\
[20:36] <Oderus> brb rq though, daughter wants me to make her a tea heh
[20:37] <tomreyn> !wsl
[20:37] <tomreyn> note especially the 2nd sentence, please
[20:42] <bilb_ono> dmnur_, thanks
[20:46] <Oderus> tomreyn: oh i am not using Windows Subsystem for Linux. I am using a dedicated linux machine, copying files to an ntfs external hard drive, then when i put said drive into a windows machine, said windows machine refuses to access the drive
[20:47] <dmnur_> cyberpolice: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qKbDGnMvv7/
[20:48] <tomreyn> Oderus: this (!WSL) was more in response to deltab. about your issue: you can try to check the ntfs state using    sudo ntfsfix -n /dev/sdf1   while it is not mounted. also show    sudo file -s /dev/sdf1
[20:48] <tomreyn> Oderus: the -n to ntfsfix means it just checks, doe not modify it.
[20:50] <Oderus> tomreyn: oh alright sorry about the confusion. I currently cannot unmount it since it is copying data currently, but i can run the other command
[20:51] <Oderus> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3S77kCJ2T5/ is the second command output
[20:54] <bilb_ono> can anyone say whats wrong with my scp line? alex@ubuntu:/etc/apache2$ scp sites-available/000-default.conf alex@192.168.222.142:/etc/apache2/sites-available
[20:54] <bilb_ono> it just hangs forever, so Im not really sure what the error or issue is
[20:55] <bilb_ono> trying to scp that file to the remote ip addresse'd machine
[20:55] <tomreyn> Oderus: hmm i guess this can be fine. i have nothing to compare to here, i'm afraid.
[20:55] <tds> bilb_ono: can you `ssh alex@192.168.222.142`?
[20:56] <crimson_king> bilb_ono, check the SSH port too, did you change from the default, 22?
[20:56] <crimson_king> you specify port with -P PORT_NUMBER
[20:57] <bilb_ono> tds that also just hangs
[20:57] <bilb_ono> which I assume means it doesn't work?
[20:58] <tds> you can stick -vvv on there to see exactly what's going on, but I'd suspect it's just failing to open a tcp connection to the other box
[20:59] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: it means you need to make sure you can successfully communicate betweenthe two systems using the ports and protocols you intend to use. by default, ssh and sftp use the TCP protocol on destination port 22.
[21:00] <tomreyn> you can use this (on the same system) to test whether you can establish a TCP connection on destination port 22:   nc -vv 192.168.222.142 22
[21:01] <Oderus> So, NTFS-3G does not fully write the data or doesn't update it or something?
[21:01] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: it will either report that it connected fine, and show some ssh header, or output nothing at all. in either case, cancel with ctrl-c.
[21:01] <bilb_ono> tomreyn, connection refused :(
[21:02] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: check routing (if any), network and host based (on both systems) firewalls
[21:03] <MMYStic> hi, is there a way to route traffic based on process ?
[21:03] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: and make sure sshd is actually running and listening on 192.168.222.142:22
[21:03] <tomreyn> Oderus: we don't have any information which would suggest so at this point.
[21:05] <Oderus> tomreyn: ok thanks. after the data I have on it is finished copying i will try ntfsfix as well and chkdsk when i connect it to windows. thanks for the help. it will be some time before the copy is complete so I will have to leave it at that for now.
[21:09] <tomreyn> Oderus: you can read the ntfsfix !man page (https://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?q=ntfsfix if you don't have package man-db installed) as well as https://www.tuxera.com/community/open-source-ntfs-3g/ about the (limited) NTFS support in Ubuntu.
[21:09] <Oderus> tomreyn: thank you
[21:12] <tomreyn> bilb_ono: i'd start by running the exact same nc... command on the target system. if it also fails to connect there then your issue is either sshd not listening on port 22 or a host based firewall misconfiguration on this system.
[21:12] <tomreyn> Oderus: you're welcome :)
[21:12] <bilb_ono> yeah Im trying to ssh on a guest to another computer on a network
[21:12] <bilb_ono> so its ... complicated
[21:13] <bilb_ono> I ended it up manually ctrl+c and v the file as always lol
[21:14] <bilb_ono> on another note, whats this dally install thing that apt does? https://termbin.com/rqxk
[21:14] <bilb_ono> should I just wait for it to finish or is it ok to stop it somehow?
[21:17] <deltab> bilb_ono: automatic updates and cleaning
[21:17] <bilb_ono> deltab, how do I stop it?
[21:17] <bilb_ono> or pause it
[21:19] <deltab> I guess  systemctl stop apt-daily.service
[21:20] <bilb_ono> perfect thanks
[21:20] <tds> MMYStic: you have a few options, what are you trying to do exactly?
[21:40] <manjeets> Hi i'm installing ubuntu 18.04 with a usb network (its not detecting) and ethernet not configured, install fails on network configuration
[21:41] <tomreyn> manjeets: what's a "usb network"?
[21:42] <tomreyn> ah i guess oyu mean a usb ethernet interface / dongle
[21:43] <manjeets> tomreyn, yes
[21:43] <tomreyn> manjeets: if the device is not detected you'll need to make sure it will be, or install without networking (but then you'll still have the same issue)
[21:46] <tomreyn> manjeets: with your device plugged in, run this in a terminal:  sudo lsusb |& nc termbin.com 9999; sudo lspci -knn |& nc termbin.com 9999
[21:46] <tomreyn> then post both urls here
[21:47] <akem_lnvo> tomreyn, Hey, what's this syntax "|&", why don't you use a normal pipe "|"?
[21:49] <manjeets> tomreyn, it suddenly detected that usb ethernet dongle after many tries
[21:50] <manjeets> no idea why it worked now
[21:50] <akem_lnvo> Never seen that before, or did you misstyped?
[21:51] <tomreyn> akem_lnvo: pipe both stdout and stderr
[21:51] <dmnur_> akem_lnvo: "cmd1 |& cmd2" is a shorthand for "cmd1 2>&1 | cmd2", Bash-specific.
[21:52] <tomreyn> ^ a better response.
[21:53] <akem_lnvo> Ok, thanks for the info, i knew the 2>&1 syntax but not the |&, thanks tomreyn and dmnur_.
[21:54] <tomreyn> you're welcome, akem
[22:02] <zayce> i've accidentally wiped /etc/fstab but haven't restarted the system yet, what are the options to recover it?
[22:05] <geirha> you can see existing mounts in /proc/mounts, in same format as fstab, but it'll need hand-editing
[22:09] <zayce> geirha ok, i can figure out the /dev/sd* entries from this. What else should fstab contains?
[22:10] <Bashing-om> zayce: I can give you my file as another reference. But my partitioning is non-regular.
[22:11] <zayce> Bashing-om would be good
[22:12] <Bashing-om> zayce: Mine: https://termbin.com/kb5f .
[22:13] <zayce> Bashing-om thanks man! it looks kinda simple to restore
[22:14] <Bashing-om> zayce: 'sudo blkid ; sudo fdisk -lu'  to know the UUIDs and partitions.
[22:26] <tomreyn> zayce: here's how you could recover a file (loosing extended file system object attributes), which should be done while the file system you wish to restore files on are not mounted (e.g. boot from a live system if the file to be recovered is located on your root file system) :  export FILETORESTORE=/home/user1/foobar ; sudo extundelete --restore-file "$FILETORESTORE" $(df "$FILETORESTORE" | tail -n+2 | cut -d' ' -f1)
[22:27] <tomreyn> this requires the "extundelete" package to be installed.
[22:29] <tomreyn> actually findmnt (util-linux) is a better approach than df, and either would only work if the file system was mounted.
[22:38] <CarlFK> apt-cache policy hdmi2usb-udev - shows it installed.  Im sure it was a dep of something else.  how can I tell what I installed that pulled it in?
[22:43] <tomreyn> CarlFK: the log files in /var/log/apt/. also,    apt-rdepends -f Depends,PreDepends,Recommends,Replaces,Obsoletes. -r hdmi2usb-udev     can tell what depends on it
[22:44] <tomreyn> actually just    apt-rdepends -f Depends,PreDepends,Recommends -r hdmi2usb-udev
[22:45] <CarlFK> tomreyn: got it.. thanks.
[23:02] <Thr0r> What HW/Laptop Vendor is the one that is tested the most by Linux Kernel Teams? I am thinking of changing my ASUS.. Is it Lenovo - ThinkPad maybe?
[23:05] <pragmaticenigma> Thr0r: You really need to learn how to search the web. Especially since any of this information is super easy to find. https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/
[23:06] <Thr0r> pragmaticenigma: Ah - ok Sorry. It there a guide somewhere - where I can learn to seach the WEB?
[23:07] <pragmaticenigma> !conduct | Thr0r
[23:09] <Thr0r> pragmaticenigma: Wow! You really don't want anyone to ask questions here do you  - That's fine with me..
[23:16] <tomreyn> Thr0r: we could talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux if you like
[23:19] <Thr0r> tomreyn: Yes please..
[23:33] <katnip`> i seem to have my resolution out of wack, it's moving all over, how can i secure thsi?
[23:43] <circuitbone> katnip`:  At the top of the window is a resolution adjuster which you can append new layouts. Alternatively with code at the boot stage of the game can help as well.
[23:44] <circuitbone> apologies wrong advice for different channel
[23:45] <psilly0> hello
[23:46] <bobdobbs> Just wondering - has anyone here managed to connect a Mac keyboard to ubuntu?
[23:47] <bobdobbs> I'm using synergy for keyboard/mouse sharing. My primary desktop is ubuntu. I connect to a 2015 Mac
[23:47] <bobdobbs> It's a good setup, but sometimes I think I'd like to use the Mac keyboard on the mac.
[23:48] <bobdobbs> What would make this easier is if I could use my Mac keyboard on Ubuntu machine
[23:48] <psilly0> i use a mac keyboard with ubuntu
[23:49] <bobdobbs> ha psilly0!
[23:49] <psilly0> hi
[23:49] <bobdobbs> Is the connection bluetooth?
[23:49] <psilly0> no its a wired USB
[23:50] <pragmaticenigma> bobdobbs: You can connect you mac keyboard to Ubuntu, there is some reduced functionality. Also, I've seen a lot of people come to this chat with issues concerning Apple Bluetooth keyboards
[23:50] <bobdobbs> pragmaticenigma: I see
[23:51] <DuncanT> Hi. I've forgotten how to do this and google isn't helping. If I'm trying to build a program like https://github.com/myriadrf/LimeSuite that has packaging info in a /debian sub-directory, what is the command to do it, please? I seem to remember there is something that does all the tarball building and things for me
[23:52] <sarnold> DuncanT: this ? https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm
[23:53] <DuncanT> @sarnold Not what I was thinking of, but that is quite possibly a better answer. I'll go play. Many thanks!
[23:54] <sarnold> DuncanT: aha... then maybe checkinstall? or alien?
[23:54] <sarnold> DuncanT: I have to think fpm might be better than both of those, but if you were looking for something specific..
[23:55] <DuncanT> sarnold: I can't remember what I used to use. If fpm does what it says on the tin then it is perfect for what I'm after. I haven't bothered to build my own packages in ages, but have a need to now
[23:56] <sarnold> DuncanT: if you find one or another easier to work with, I'd appreciate a quick word of advice for the next person who asks :)
[23:57] <DuncanT> sarnold: Sure, I can let you know
[23:57] <sarnold> DuncanT: great, thanks :D