[00:17] <sloshy> hey can someone tell the devs to not include menulibre and have alacarte instead
[00:17] <sloshy> menulibre destroys menus
[00:18] <sloshy> and its really annoying and people shouldnt use it
[01:38] <horriblemuck> Hello world. Just installed xubuntu, seems nice. Thanks for all the hard work.
[04:00] <appa> When I try to install the AMD Radeon drivers for my card it apparently leaves me with no drivers, any thoughts?
[04:11] <Bashing-om> appa: Show the channel the card info ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' - in a pastebin site; and the command(s) you ran to install the AMD driver.
[04:17] <appa> https://paste in.com/ZimXSj22
[04:19] <Bashing-om> appa: I can not complete that link .. re-do please .
[04:19] <appa> The AMD installer runs, I reboot and video goes super slow and lspci -nnk shows no drivers
[04:20] <appa> Sorry my web access went down so I'm thumbing it on my phone
[04:20] <appa> https://pastebin.com/ZimXSj22
[04:22] <Bashing-om> appa: appa :) checking what the reecommended driver is.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> appa: Confirmed that the amdgpu driver (loaded) is correct. That driver is in the linux kernel. So, what commands did you run to try and change the driver ? see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[04:31] <appa> the open source drivers work pretty well, but for a game I'm trying to use the vedor drivers with vulkan
[04:33] <appa> I downloaded the file from https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-400-series/radeon-rx-400-series/radeon-rx-460
[04:33] <appa> and ran the included install script
[04:35] <appa> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-635
[04:35] <Bashing-om> appa: reading :)
[04:40] <Bashing-om> appa: What release are you running ?
[04:40] <appa> 18.04
[04:40] <appa> Linux borg 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:40] <appa> 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:41] <appa> 4.15.0-54-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 24 10:55:24 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:41] <appa> not sure if that helps
[04:42] <appa> 	Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[04:42] <appa> lsb_release -a --> 18.04.2 LTS
[04:43] <appa> Normally if I can connect the dots like this everything works out well... but I'm wondering if I need to disable the amdgpu drivers before I start
[04:43] <Bashing-om> appa: Houston, we have a problem. The link you referenced is for " Version 17.40 for Ubuntu 16.04.3 ". Now I am no longer up on AMD drivers, Maybe wait a bit here for someone else to guide on removing the driver that you installed ?
[04:45] <appa> did I link an older one?
[04:46] <appa> the amd.com one was old instructions for installing their packages, but it doesn't look like the process has changed much
[04:48] <appa> But thanks for the help I'll keep beating on it
[04:50] <Bashing-om> appa: I be here for the long haul :) At this point might consider purging the Pro driver and see what we can find for the bionic release. ' amdgpu-pro-uninstall ' .
[04:51] <Bashing-om> appa: Be aware that the kernel has gone through lots of changes since the 16.04 release.
[04:53] <appa> are the opensource and amd drivers the same thing? or at least nearly?
[04:55] <Bashing-om> appa: the opensource driver is provided/supported by AMD - andgpu. Now on top of that one can overlay PRO -in supported hardware - that is proprietary.
[04:58] <appa> Yes that makes more sense now
[04:59] <appa> I wonder if I need to upgrade the FOSS amdgpu before I apply the PRO
[05:00] <appa> Nope, that caused the freakout
[05:01] <Bashing-om> appa: Think'n - for now see ' apt show mesa-vulkan-drivers ' . Is this what you have in mind ?
[05:03] <appa> I think so, I haven't heard of it before but Lutris wants it and I figured it couldn't hurt to try
[05:03] <appa> Recovering my system now...
[05:07] <Bashing-om> appa: Never hurts - much - to try .. this is ubuntu -- break it and we get to keep the pieces to put it back together :P
[05:09] <appa> Reinstall takes a couple minutes ;)
[05:09] <appa> I broke lightdm...
[05:11] <Bashing-om> appa: And I found AMD's driver page for 18.04 .. which way do you want to go ?
[05:12] <appa> What page is that?
[05:12] <Bashing-om> appa: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-40 . Bote a much later driver version :)
[05:12] <Bashing-om> bote/Note*
[05:14] <appa> Gotta fix my desktop first
[05:14] <Bashing-om> appa: :D 1st things first.
[05:19] <appa> Not sure what goes first here...
[05:20] <appa> Lightdm is failing to start after mucking with video
[05:20] <Bashing-om> appa: what DE do you have ? Maybe a sledge hammer approach to the desk top re-install ?
[05:21] <appa> Yeah, I'd be done by now if I hadn't tried to be heroic
[05:21] <Bashing-om> appa: And a broken graphic's driver can have that ^^ effect :(
[05:22] <appa> So goal now, get vulkan without the PRO overlay
[05:24] <Bashing-om> appa: doable :) As I have noted "FWIW, you shouldn't need to install the "pro" drivers for vulkan support." .
[05:26] <Bashing-om> appa: We get back to a stable DE .. I have the needed commands to install Vulkan :)
[05:46] <appa> I found that too, I'm back up, got the vulkan, reinstalling wine
[05:47] <appa> I can't stress how handy apt-cacher-ng is for reinstalling
[05:48] <Bashing-om> appa: In the end - only as good as the tools you use :P
[05:51] <Unit193> appa: Also if one uses live-build, and pbuilder is pretty great to hook into it as well. ;)
[05:52] <appa> I'll have to check it out
[05:57] <Unit193> Heh, they're only interesting if you need 'em.  The one is for building ISOs, the other for Debian packages in a clean chroot.
[06:54] <friendlyGoat> does anyone know why my KMS i think its called, isnt working after an update?
[06:55] <friendlyGoat> when i boot my computer the boot screen is just normal text saying Xubuntu instead of the normal splash screen but its the normal boot screen when i shut down.
[06:55] <friendlyGoat> i have no idea what caused this or why but it started after an update
[09:35] <bodiccea> Not sure it is right channel. Just tried to play some midi files. So I installed Musescore and Rosegarden.  First one makes noise, no sound output from second one. Probably a config issue. Any idea ?
[09:42] <gnrp> bodiccea: I guess in a sound-specific linux channel you are better off
[09:43] <gnrp> Sound is a peculiar topic in linux
[09:52] <bodiccea> However, these are xubuntu packages. Therefore supposed to work out of the box :)
[13:05] <friendlyGoat> anyone here know about plymouth and adjusting the kernel mode setting? i cant fix an issue that started with an update a while back. my boot-up splash screen is super simple and just normal text instead of what its supposed to be but when im shutting down the splash screen is normal. i tried something to fix it before which didnt work, i then tried reinstalling plymouth which resulted in me having to reinstall my gui for some
[13:05] <friendlyGoat> ason and still my splash screen isnt working how it used to.
[13:18] <gnrp> friendlyGoat: What gpu do you have?
[13:32] <friendlyGoat> gnrp: https://pastebin.com/7E1Jq8z5 heres the response from lspci | grep VGA
[14:41] <friendlyGoat> im gonna rest for now but when you get back or if anyone else sees this please ping me or dm me if ya got any help for the thing i mentioned earlier @gnrp
[18:56] <gnrp> friendlyGoat: Aah, ok. I guess I cannot help, then. I have this problem sometimes for my nvidia computer when the driver refuses to build for the new kernel
[18:57] <gnrp> friendlyGoat: But the regular splash screen would work for plymouth?
[18:58] <diogenes_> friendlyGoat, i bet it will work fine with nouveau.
[18:59] <gnrp> diogenes_: He has an Intel card. I just said I thought it might be related to my nvidia problems
[18:59] <gnrp> I unfortunately cannot use nouveau, though
[19:00] <diogenes_> gnrp, why you cannot?
[19:10] <gnrp> diogenes_: cuda support
[22:42] <friendlyGoat> gnrp, im looking into noveau now, im on their site in the installation guide