[14:44] <drmacro> Trying to figure what I did and if xfce is where I need to fix it. Ubuntustudio 19.04 on a laptop with the internal LCD and 2 hdmi ports. Somehow I messed with desktop config to the point that the login screen only shows up on one of the hdmi ports. If I type in the password blind after boot (the lcd screen is blank and the monitor is not plugged in) the login completes and shows up on the laptop screen as it should. Is there a set
[14:44] <drmacro> ting in xfce that controls this, if so, where/what is it?
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: That's lightdm that does that, and I have never been able to figure out how to make it mirror displays (and, tbh, I haven't tried).
[16:00] <drmacro> Eickmeyer: I've now figured out that it is lightdm...but, I don't know how I changed it, can't find any lightdm doc that even mentions settings for monitor ports...I just want to put it back. :-(
[16:01] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: Yeah, I have no idea. We don't develop lightdm here.
[16:01] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: The only thing I found was this: https://openschoolsolutions.org/mirror-screens-automatically-hdmi/
 Would you recommend  19.04 for showcasing or training new people on all the FOSS graphics/media packages, or stay with 18.04lts?
[16:06] <drmacro> Eickmeyer: I skimmed that, I'll go back and have a closer look after lunch. But, it seems to be setting up udev to handle plug/unplug. Since I don't have it plugged in at boot...not sure.
 @designbybeck [Would you recommend  19.04 for showcasing or training new people on all the FOSS …], 19.04 has the latest stuff out-of-the-box, but 18.04 doesn't update very much (for Ubuntu Studio, it's not LTS unless you add the Ubuntu Studio Backports). It really depends on if you want to upgrade it every 6 months or not. If GIMP is s
[16:10] <studiobot> omething you need, 19.04 is what I'd recommend since it has the newer GIMP 2.10 (18.04 is stuck at 2.8 for various reasons).
 very good point @Eickmeyer , that is what I lean towards as well as far as showcasing at least. I want them to see the latest tools and at least start playing with it.
[16:34] <drmacro> studiobot: FWIW, the laptop that I'm talking about is to be used in a teaching recording studio. I chose to use 19.04.
[16:36] <drmacro> I would also note, and wonder why...apparently UBS 19.04 installs the latest version of Ardour, but, chooses to use non-standard (with respect to Ardour) install directories. Anybody know why?
[18:13] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ^
[18:15] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: I'm speculating, but the version downloadable directly from Ardour installs in /opt ? That isn't standard for packaged software (like found in Ubuntu Studio's default install), so it goes into the standard directory by UNIX standards.
[18:15] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: That said, there is no difference in terms of code.
[18:33] <drmacro> Eickmeyer: Yes, the /opt directory. I assume Paul & co. have reasons for using the /opt over the packaging standard?
[18:47] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: It's standard practice for any self-packaged software (not packaged by the operating system developers) to install into /opt. Google Chrome does the same.
[18:48] <Eickmeyer> drmacro: This explains the directory structure: https://www.howtogeek.com/117435/htg-explains-the-linux-directory-structure-explained/
[19:17] <drmacro> Eickmeyer: Ok, thinks, I get the structure (I started in Unix...I'm BT (Before Torvalds ;-)) ), I'm just not up on the distro packaging, developer install, etc.