[01:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdd3e7faca1a1: Fix keyboard shortcuts for switching desktops] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdd3e7faca1a1
 whoever has access to phab, I just signed up and need approval. :D
 no rush
 @profetik777 [whoever has access to phab, I just signed up and need approval. :D], Done
 thx
[02:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T88: help create marketing team and basic sop] profetik777 (profetik777) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88
[15:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSCREENGRABPACKAGING292bee707536: Refresh patches] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSCREENGRABPACKAGING292bee707536
[19:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNMTRAYPACKAGING1bc4f5406954: Changed connection editor to nm-connection-editor] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNMTRAYPACKAGING1bc4f5406954
[19:14] <wxl> ^ @HMollerCl sponsored that for you, too
 thanks, wxl. Just wait to land to see if everything works as expected
[19:19] <wxl> amd64, i386, ppc64el, s390x all built
 i386 ??
[19:28] <wxl> yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
[19:28] <wxl> everything built
[19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS1a4f60968a8f: Set window size fullscreen.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS1a4f60968a8f
 I might not understand well, but I thought that i386 wasn't delivered anymore, nor is here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[19:31] <wxl> images aren't but some packages are apparently
[19:31] <kc2bez> Thanks wxl
[19:31] <wxl> np
[19:31] <wxl> sponsored too
[19:32] <kc2bez> :)
[19:32] <wxl> i don't know why simon didn't just do it but oh well
[19:33] <wxl> can anyone here figure out what the heck this person is talking about??? https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/19-04-megathread/24/70
[19:33] <kc2bez> I was hoping you knew.
[19:33] <wxl> heh
[19:38] <kc2bez> Oh, I wonder if they mean the taskbar? There is a way to set that so that the only thing showing there is on the current desktop.
[19:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T88: help create marketing team and basic sop] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88#1354
 @wxl [<wxl> can anyone here figure out what the heck this person is talking about??? h …], o.o … Very wierd. Also, Can't replicate the problem.
 wait, but he says that are not amximized, only minimized right?
 that's a configuration of the taskbar
 something like "show only windows of panel desktop"
 at least in lxqt
 then when you click in the minimized, it sned tyou back to the other desktop
 Ohh! Wait I got it!
 He's right. Right click on 'task manager widget' or go to panel configuration by right clicking on panel and selecting configure panel. And selecting task manager in widget section and clicking on settings icon beside it. … Once in task manager settings window. The first most option is unchecked by default. The option reads "S
[20:11] <kc2bez> I don't know that it is a bug. I rather like the way it is.
[20:12] <kc2bez> I'm not saying I should be the deciding factor, I just don't think it is broken.
 It's not broken agreed but Most users, including me, prefer that when I change to another desktop, I don't see tasks from earlier desktops on the panel. Even if they are minimised.
 I knew exactly what he was talking about right away because that's the first thing I fix when I install Lubuntu
 Separate workspaces get separate sets of taskbar entries for me. I'm with him
 @tsimonq2 [I knew exactly what he was talking about right away because that's the first thi …], Me too!! That's why I couldn't replicate initially. Then I booted a vm which had eoan and then I got it.
 How do other DEs do this?
 And I see @HMollerCl has already replied. So I won't now.
 I'm not going to executive decision this because I feel like we should be mindful of the unwritten standards
 However, personally I would support the change
 Hey wxl, you're making tags when you do uploads, right?
[20:19] <kc2bez> I can be persuaded. I'll probably do the same as you and change it back though ;) Good question on the other DE's we should research it.
 @tsimonq2 [How do other DEs do this?], Same as what we are doing now. Can confirm in unity, gnome and pantheon. Idk about kde and xubuntu.
 Jeez, ok
 Harumph
 What do others say?
 @tsimonq2 [Harumph], Something wrong?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Something wrong?], Not particularly
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Something wrong?], @tsimonq2 was expected that the other DE would use it the way he liked XD
 What do you think? How it should be?
 I'm with @kc2bez I like it the way it is, sometimes I forgot I already opened an app in the other desktop with the other option
[20:35] <kc2bez> That splits us up nicely :D
 I vote for "non writen standard"
 Hey wxl, I have another name: "Lubuntu, lxqt with more than cpp manual"
 There is a meet today, right?
[20:54] <wxl[m]> There should be a meet but it is a holiday
 Holiday due to?
[20:54] <wxl[m]> I'm out and about currently
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> I'm out and about currently], K.
[20:55] <wxl[m]> I don't have strong feelings about the Taskbar things but I would support the change. I sometimes bother to set it up that way. Usually I care more about screens rather than desktops though
[20:56] <wxl[m]> Holiday: 🇺🇸 🎇
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Holiday due to?], US Independence Day.
[20:56] <wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 no one told me anything about tagging
 <tag></tag>
 what tag?
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 no one told me anything about tagging], It's in the docs
 @kc2bez [US Independence Day.], Ohh! Noice.
 Tag uploads in the VCS
 Happy independence day then!
 Thanks @The_LoudSpeaker
[21:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1355
[21:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1356
[21:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1357
 @tsimonq2  you are talking about the hummingbird logo?
 Yes
 Ask a Lubuntu Member for a PNG, we'll be happy to give you one
 For now, the SVGs are available to Lubuntu Members only
 I need png only. The repo has only pngs. And I have used png only. The svg wxl sent, I haven't used it.
 Also, I need the logo which is to be placed in place of the hummingbird logo. Can you send?
 I can't right now, sorry
 The logo should be a square one, others won't look good.
 Anyone else can send it now?
[21:20] <wxl[m]> He means the blue one
[21:20] <wxl[m]> I'll have to dig
[21:23] <wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 do that tag before dput?
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> I'll have to dig], Sure. Send it when you find it.
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 do that tag before dput?], Tag iff the upload is accepted
 (that's not a typo, I mean iff)
[21:27] <wxl[m]> How does that work? You can't dput the same version
 I don't understand. Upload it, once you get the acceptance email, tag HEAD (the stuff you just uploaded) and push the tag
 Does that make sense? :)
 See previous tags in the repo for examples
[22:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1359
[22:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1361
[22:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1362
[22:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL28ad34450f1c: Split bullet] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL28ad34450f1c
[22:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd8627b15aaf6: Add Featherpad sidebar screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd8627b15aaf6
[23:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL39e7e9c0d622: Update featherpad text-pref screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL39e7e9c0d622
[23:25] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so i guess at this point i'll need to git pull; git tag -a ubuntu/eoan checksum; git push origin ubuntu/eoan?
[23:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: Make sure to get the tag name right, but yes.
[23:27] <wxl> @tsimonq2: is that the wrong tagname?
[23:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yes, the tag is version-specific.
[23:28] <tsimonq2> Remind me which package we're talking about here?
[23:28] <wxl> well i uploaded nm-tray and calamares-settings-ubuntu
[23:28] <wxl> though i have uploaded other things
[23:29] <wxl> i think the problem is that the documention says to use "ubuntu/VERSION" and that's not really defined
[23:29] <tsimonq2> calamares-settings-ubuntu gets ubuntu/1%19.10.3
[23:30] <tsimonq2> nm-tray gets ubuntu/0.4.1-0ubuntu2
[23:30] <tsimonq2> It's literally ubuntu/VERSION
[23:30] <tsimonq2> :)
[23:30] <wxl> well eoan is a version
[23:30] <tsimonq2> oh
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Let's make that more clear then.
[23:30] <wxl> anyways % and not :?
[23:30] <tsimonq2> Yes, because : can't exist in Git tag names.
[23:31] <wxl> ok so i guess that and any other gotchas need to be included
[23:31] <tsimonq2> A lot of these kind of packaging standards are from pkg-qt-kde
[23:31] <tsimonq2> They have a tool to do this, but I don't like a lot of what the tool does, to be honest.
[23:31] <wxl> similarly it should explain the version iis the full version name in ubuntu rather than merely the upstream version
[23:32] <wxl> doing calasettings now
[23:32] <tsimonq2> ok
[23:33] <wxl> does there need to be a tag message?
[23:33] <wxl> i guess there does
[23:33] <wxl> any particular preferences?
[23:34] <tsimonq2> No there doesn't.
[23:34] <tsimonq2> hm
[23:34] <wxl> well it poops out if there isn't one
[23:34] <tsimonq2> Pastebin?
[23:34] <wxl> fatal: no tag message?
[23:35] <wxl> i'm doing `git tag -a ubuntu/1%19.10.3 HEAD`
[23:35] <tsimonq2> Remove -a
[23:35] <tsimonq2> You don't need HEAD either
[23:36] <wxl> ok there we go
[23:36] <wxl> i had seen that on the git docs if you had failed to tag before pushing
[23:39] <wxl> you fixing the wiki @tsimonq2 ?
[23:44] <wxl> i take that as a no? XD
[23:44] <tsimonq2> Not right now