[05:07] <chieta> is there vim on lubuntu?
[05:12] <diogenes_> chieta, vim is everywhere.
[05:13] <chieta> lxqt based, diogenes_?
[05:13] <lynorian> vim is command line based
[05:13] <chieta> gvim i mean
[05:13] <chieta> what's the default editor on lubuntu?
[05:13] <lynorian> gvim is gtk
[05:13] <lynorian> for gui stuff featherpad is
[05:14] <chieta> noted, just reliazed
[05:15] <chieta> here gvim with x11-athena gui
[12:47] <sxclimax> Hey all, I just got a new modem and router and now cannot connect to the internet with my lubuntu server. Can anyone help me out?
[12:48] <sxclimax> I can connect to the WiFi but when I try to ping anything, there is no connection
[13:33] <climaxio> Can anyone give me some networking help for my home server?
[13:34] <kc2bez> What is the issue climaxio ?
[13:35] <kc2bez> Which version of Lubuntu?
[13:35] <climaxio> I just got a new modem and router, moved houses, and now cannot connect to the internet with my lubuntu server.
[13:35] <climaxio> I can connect to the WiFi but when I try to ping anything, there is no connection
[13:35] <tomreyn> here's a reply you got earlier (to your question in #ubuntu) when you timed out <lotuspsychje> climaxio: if its about the network part, you can ask in ##networking if its about server, #ubuntu-server
[13:37] <climaxio> Thanks!
[13:38] <climaxio> "Which version of Lubuntu?" 16.04
[13:42] <kc2bez> tomreyn is right, you may find better answers in another channel. Lubuntu support for 16.04 has ended. One thing to consider is this: your modem and router are the variable here, you may want to check them with another device or contact your provider.
[13:43] <climaxio> kx2bez, I am using internet from that modem and router to communicate with you right now, so they are working. I will try my question on those channels
[13:44] <climaxio> I believe the issue has to do with the static IP I set up a while ago (and I forget how I did that)
[13:44] <kc2bez> Good to know, you will want to let them know that information.
[13:46] <tomreyn> climaxio: here's a list of end-of-life dates for ubuntu flavours such as lubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL
[13:46] <tomreyn> you really need to upgrade.
[15:57] <lcneal> i need help with installing lubuntu.
[16:00] <apt-ghetto> lcneal: Could you give us some details/informations about your problem?
[16:00] <lcneal> earlier i had ubuntu installed on my laptop as primary. then i needed to install windows again but it didn't work
[16:00] <lcneal> then i tried installing lubuntu and it shows error
[16:02] <lcneal> it show some python error saying unpackage
[16:02] <apt-ghetto> Please write the exact error message
[16:03] <apt-ghetto> Which Lubuntu version do you use?
[16:04] <lcneal> Boost.Python error in job "unpackfs".
[16:04] <lcneal> version 19.04
[16:04] <lcneal> Command '['mount', '/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs', '/tmp/tmplhvllcxy/filesystem', '-t', 'squashfs', '-o', 'loop']' returned non-zero exit status 32.
[16:06] <lcneal> Boost.Python error in job "unpackfs".Command '['mount', '/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs', '/tmp/tmplhvllcxy/filesystem', '-t', 'squashfs', '-o', 'loop']' returned non-zero exit status 32.NoneTraceback:File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 340, in run    return unpackop.run()  File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ca
[16:06] <lcneal> lamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 201, in run    self.mount_image(entry, imgmountdir)  File "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/unpackfs/main.py", line 250, in mount_image    "-o", "loop"  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/subprocess.py", line 347, in check_call    raise CalledProcessError(retcode, cmd)
[16:06] <lcneal> sorry this is what it shows
[16:06] <tomreyn> !paste
[16:07] <tomreyn> what you see there is likely a broken installer. either your installer iso downloaded improperly or it was not properly written to the installer media.
[16:07] <tomreyn> !checksum
[16:09] <lcneal> thank you i will try again if the error still remains then i will ask again
[16:10] <tomreyn> good luck!
[17:28] <sappheiros> is it a security hazard to continue using lubuntu 18.10 after the community moves on to other versions?
[17:30] <kc2bez> Yes, it will no longer receive security updates.
[17:36] <sappheiros> becaue 19.04 is out, is it already a hazard to continue using?
[17:45] <kc2bez> The upgrade should be smooth. Just backup your data first but moving to 19.04 is the right thing to do.
[17:46] <sappheiros> kc2bez: i have a 32-bit computer.
[17:46] <sappheiros> (we've talked about this before and the ultimate answer is, "buy a new computer")
[17:47] <diogenes_> sappheiros, what's the issue?
[17:47] <sappheiros> my qeuestion really is how long i can wait before i should downgrade to 18.04 LTS
[17:48] <sappheiros> diogenes_: i can't afford a new computer but i don't want to be open to security hazards
[17:49] <diogenes_> sappheiros, and why you think you gonna be opened to any risks?
[17:59] <sappheiros> diogenes_: because from the news it seems people enjoy or get monetary reward from hacking others
[17:59] <sappheiros> and i use public networks because i don't subscribe to an ISP
[18:01] <diogenes_> nothing is 100% secured against hacking, even pentagon.
[18:01] <sappheiros> i would feel worse if getting hacked was "my own fault", e.g. for not using up-to-date software.
[18:02] <sappheiros> e.g. "we have a patch for that already released but you weren't using it"
 @sappheiros [<sappheiros> and i use public networks because i don't subscribe to an ISP], You can use ad blockers and ptivacy protecting extensions like ghostery and ublock origin. Ublock origin is quite good actually at restricting ads and potentially malicious content off the websites you visit.
[18:10] <tomreyn> a statement such as "nothing is 100% secured against hacking, even pentagon" should not be mistaken as someone suggesting it's by any means acceptable to run unsupported / vulnerable software, of course.
[18:13] <sappheiros> it was tempting to interpret it that way, since i'm hoping to keep using this computer ...
[18:13] <sappheiros> giving it to a university disposal program when it seems fine to keep using seems wasteful ...
[18:14] <sappheiros> that is, replacing it even though it still works with a new one that was manufactured in a way that created pollution
[18:25] <tomreyn> you could continue using it airgapped, as a digital signage system or photo frame or something. or install a different linux distro which will continue to somehow (not sure how if mainline linux support is fading) support i386 for longer. or different OS entirely. but chances all they'll all just drop i386 soon. depending on the type of computer it is, you could also recycle parts.
[18:28] <sappheiros> what does 'mainline linux support' mean?
[18:28] <sappheiros> do you mean all major distributions, e.g. ubuntu redhat fedora, are all quitting 32-bit?
[18:30] <tomreyn> there are indications that i386 support is loosing priority amongst kernel developers.
[18:32] <tomreyn> for example, it took months until someone found the time required to develop fixes against spectre cpu vulnerabilities which work on i386. in the meantime, these systems were unprotected,
[18:33] <tomreyn> and then, hardware manufacturers probably provide no more firmware upgrades for these platforms either
[18:34] <sappheiros> ah.
[18:35] <tomreyn> some of these cpu flaws require firmware upgrades to provide complete or more complete (or less incomplete) fixes for these vulnerabilities.
[18:35] <tomreyn> now those aren't the most critical vulnerabilities you'll find, but it's something to take into account.
[18:36] <sappheiros> man. you know a computer problem is a big deal when you don't even understand the summary of it ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(security_vulnerability)
[18:36] <sappheiros> basically a program could be spyware and read the CPU in a way that reveals what you were doing in another app?
[18:37] <sappheiros> so you could send data to a financial website and it could read your keystrokes off the CPU?
[18:37] <sappheiros> (so it wouldn't matter if the website connection was secured)
[18:38] <sappheiros> a website?! it doesn't even have to be a program installed on your computer? wow
[18:39] <wxl> well the way the modern web is, it's not just text and images. you're actually executing applications
[18:39] <tomreyn> there were fixes for web browsers which should prevent malicious websites from gaining access to your memory this way. also on i386, i would think.
[18:40] <tomreyn> but malicious applications you installed from some websites, PPAs, or some modern software stores where software and developers are not properly vetted (hint, hint) could do such.
[18:42] <tomreyn> that is, if you don't have all the firmware + microcode + kernel + user space patches installed which prevent that. or if those just don't exist for your CPU.
[22:05] <Jonopoly> cd
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[22:57] <sappheiros> https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/
[22:57] <sappheiros> does 'july of 2019' mean support ended on the 1st, or will end on the 31st?
 based on an earlier discussion today, my understanding is that 18.10  is most likely supported until 18th of July  (independant of the !flavour).
[23:07] <sappheiros> thank you