| jamesh | robert_ancell: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7054 <- here's the PackageKit support PR | 01:33 |
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| gitbot | snapcore issue (Pull request) 7054 in snapd "interfaces: add an interface that grants access to the PackageKit service" [Open] | 01:33 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, nice! | 01:33 |
| jamesh | robert_ancell: do you plan on implementing the PackageKit session interface in snap-store? | 01:33 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, as opposed to using a library? | 01:34 |
| jamesh | that is, claiming org.freedesktop.PackageKit on the session bus? | 01:34 |
| jamesh | From a confinement position, I don't think it matters if it is as a library or from scratch | 01:34 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, I hadn't considered that, but I guess probably yes. | 01:35 |
| jamesh | robert_ancell: I think the standard "dbus" snapd interface is probably best for that rather than trying to cram it into this one | 01:36 |
| jamesh | since that will eventually allow bus activation | 01:36 |
| robert_ancell | jamesh, agreed. Since a PK interface user won't specifically need to register that. | 01:36 |
| jamesh | [once my yak shaving expedition winds to a close] | 01:37 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers! | 05:52 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:00 |
| oSoMoN | afternoon duflu | 06:02 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:14 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:17 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 07:18 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, duflu | 07:26 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:01 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:01 |
| Laney | hey | 08:04 |
| seb128 | goooood morning desktopers! | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, seb128 | 08:07 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke, Laney and seb128 | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks, how are you? did you recover a bit from falling yesterday? | 08:07 |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 08:07 |
| duflu | :-o | 08:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: a little bit, but it's still hurting | 08:07 |
| duflu | How are you seb128? | 08:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, :-( | 08:09 |
| seb128 | duflu, I'm good! | 08:09 |
| Laney | hey didrocks duflu seb128 | 08:18 |
| seb128 | hye Laney, how are you? | 08:18 |
| oSoMoN | good morning willcooke, Laney, seb128 | 08:19 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN! ça va comment ? | 08:19 |
| oSoMoN | ça va bien, merci! | 08:20 |
| Laney | seb128: yeah good, climbing then folk club last night, was nice - and it's sunny this morning | 08:20 |
| Laney | moved some of the house plants outside for their summer holiday | 08:20 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN | 08:20 |
| seb128 | sounds fun ;-) | 08:20 |
| Laney | saw your chromium fix, nice one | 08:20 |
| Trevinho | morning guyzzz | 08:22 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, not sure why this didn't work without that patch in qemu but it did in e.g. virtualbox, but the patch is fine and I spent too much time investigating the issue already. And it will prevent similar issues with other packages that run selenium/chromedriver tests | 08:22 |
| oSoMoN | buon giorno Trevinho | 08:22 |
| Trevinho | bunjourn oSoMoN | 08:23 |
| duflu | Morning Trevinho | 08:23 |
| Trevinho | bonjour* | 08:23 |
| Laney | BUNJUN MARCO | 08:23 |
| duflu | Murning Marco | 08:23 |
| Trevinho | bejump | 08:23 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ! | 08:24 |
| seb128 | bonjouno Trevinho! | 08:24 |
| Trevinho | heya seb128 | 08:24 |
| cpaelzer | oSoMoN: any patch that I need for qemu in the package? | 08:25 |
| oSoMoN | cpaelzer, nope, I patched chromedriver in the chromium snap, nothing on the qemu side | 08:26 |
| oSoMoN | (that's bug #1834052 for some context) | 08:26 |
| ubot5 | bug 1834052 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest failures: Chromium-Related in Tests" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834052 | 08:26 |
| cpaelzer | ok, thanks | 08:27 |
| cpaelzer | just didn't want to miss anything :-) | 08:27 |
| * Laney patches cpaelzer to run 2.4% more efficiently and 3.93% cooler | 08:28 | |
| cpaelzer | wth, thanks I guess? | 08:35 |
| Laney | you're welcome! | 08:36 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, what's the latest status on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/firefox-removable-media-interface-auto-connect-request/5929/10 ? | 09:34 |
| seb128 | hum, new bolt has an option to install tests | 09:40 |
| seb128 | I wonder if it's worth installing them in a new binary/making maybe an autopkgtest (though no need to have them installed for that) | 09:41 |
| * Laney likes doing that | 09:41 | |
| seb128 | the tests also use umockdev to emulate things and bolt itself has few rdepends, mostly glib/udev so I'm not sure that would test much | 09:41 |
| Laney | Simon put them in the -dev package for something recently, until the next soname change that would mean a trip through NEW anyway | 09:42 |
| Laney | that was ok I thought | 09:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, they are basically the same tests as in the source, you think there is value in having them in a binary rather than unpacking the source? | 09:42 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, I see that xdg-desktop-portal is still not installed by default in bionic, is there a plan to change that? | 09:43 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: I think we still need to update ubuntu-desktop dependencies, yeah. | 09:44 |
| seb128 | (well they need to be built, but bolt is small so that's not resource expensive to unpack/build/make check) | 09:44 |
| Laney | yes of course | 09:44 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: I'm sorry this has taken so long | 09:44 |
| Laney | you test the thing that is being built and distributed | 09:44 |
| seb128 | fair point | 09:44 |
| Laney | rather than additionally testing the toolchain | 09:44 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx for the input | 09:44 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, no worries, just trying to figure out what's missing at this point | 09:44 |
| seb128 | let me add that | 09:45 |
| seb128 | and go through NEW :p | 09:45 |
| Laney | you can put it in the -dev if you want | 09:45 |
| seb128 | (bolt isn't split, I don't want them installed in the main binary) | 09:45 |
| seb128 | I would if bolt had one :) | 09:45 |
| Laney | https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/commit/82cab2e95483079f31e14bab865b2631df0595ab | 09:45 |
| Laney | oh how do you build against it? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | you don't | 09:46 |
| seb128 | bolt is a dbus service | 09:46 |
| Laney | ok so you use gbdus-codegen or something | 09:47 |
| seb128 | no convenient library/api provided | 09:47 |
| seb128 | right | 09:47 |
| Laney | -tests package sounds good to me then! | 09:48 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, what else do I need to make the document portal work in an existing snap (chromium), apart from installing xdg-desktop-portal{,-gtk} on the host system? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, thx, useful conversation! | 09:50 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: for file open/save, setting GTK_USE_PORTAL=1 in the environment will do (e.g. using the environment stanza in snapcraft.yaml) | 09:50 |
| oSoMoN | ack | 09:51 |
| jamesh | it will probably also handle opening mime associations too, provided it doesn't match the .desktop files provided by the base snap | 09:52 |
| jamesh | for a web browser, the xdg-open.desktop file probably won't cause problems | 09:53 |
| jamesh | for some reason core18 includes a vim.desktop that might | 09:53 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, I'm running the chromium snap in a bionic VM with xdg-desktop-portal-gtk installed, and with GTK_USE_PORTAL=1, but the file open dialog won't let me browse to /media, what am I missing? | 09:57 |
| oSoMoN | could this be specific to chromium because of the way they instantiate the file open dialog? | 09:58 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: I'd forgotten about that: the other half of the problem is that the app must use the GtkFileChooserNative API to present the file chooser | 09:59 |
| oSoMoN | aha | 09:59 |
| jamesh | or if it is using Qt, I think there is a QPA plugin that does the right thing | 10:00 |
| jamesh | I needed to port gedit to the new API to get things working there | 10:00 |
| jamesh | how difficult the port is depends on what file chooser features are being used | 10:00 |
| oSoMoN | that's the chromium implementation: https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/chrome/browser/ui/libgtkui/select_file_dialog_impl_gtk.cc | 10:02 |
| * jamesh looks | 10:03 | |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: from a quick look, the main things that aren't portable to GtkFileChooserNative are previews and custom filters | 10:06 |
| jamesh | Anything that relies on the application controlling an already displayed file chooser is off the table | 10:07 |
| jamesh | the custom filter could probably be replaced by providing multiple globs for both upper and lower case | 10:08 |
| jamesh | or even translate to file_extension="jpeg" to "*.[Jj][Pp][Ee][Gg]" | 10:09 |
| Laney | I think you can still supply previews, but they may or may not be actually rendered and may cause a non-native dialog to be shown instead of the native one | 10:12 |
| jamesh | I think you're right, yeah | 10:15 |
| jamesh | looks like the preview widget will be ignored and you'd never see the update-preview signal if portals are being used | 10:16 |
| jamesh | but in fallback mode it should work like before | 10:16 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, Laney: thanks for the analysis, I could probably give a go at porting the implementation to GtkFileChooserNative, not sure whether upstream would accept it though, if it degrades the existing UX | 10:19 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: so it sounds like it should be possible to port chromium forward without loss of functionality. The custom filter => glob pattern change is probably the most complex, but you could probably start with a simple glob | 10:20 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: presumably if Chromium is updated, that will percolate through to all the Electron apps eventually too | 10:21 |
| oSoMoN | that sounds like a good idea then | 10:24 |
| jamesh | yeah. This definitely sounds like something that should happen | 10:26 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: the only other complication with porting is that GtkFileChooserNative is not a GtkWindow (or even a GtkWidget) | 10:26 |
| juliank | What would people think if we'd show debconf questions from daemons in modal gnome-shell dialogs rather than these debconf-communicate windows? | 10:27 |
| jamesh | it subclasses GtkNativeDialog instead, which has its own show/hide/destroy methods | 10:27 |
| oSoMoN | jamesh, thanks, I filed https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=981309 to request comments from upstream before I embark on porting the existing code | 10:43 |
| jamesh | oSoMoN: cool. If you do start on the port and have any more questions, I'll help any way I can. | 10:57 |
| willcooke | does anyone know, off hand, the difference between date_last_updated and date_last_message in the LP API? | 11:13 |
| willcooke | they can be different | 11:13 |
| Laney | I would guess the last comment vs any update in the activity log | 11:14 |
| willcooke | where activity could be someone assigning the bug for example? | 11:14 |
| Laney | right, if you stick +activity on the end of a bug URL you can see it | 11:15 |
| willcooke | ah nice one | 11:15 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 11:15 |
| willcooke | I think last_updated is probably what I need | 11:15 |
| Laney | is that right? | 11:15 |
| willcooke | (also: no more dupes in the output) | 11:15 |
| Laney | win | 11:15 |
| willcooke | well, I think someone could assign the bug to themselves, but not actually comment on it | 11:15 |
| Laney | I mean my guess | 11:16 |
| willcooke | ah right | 11:16 |
| willcooke | testing... | 11:16 |
| willcooke | yeah, looks like iot | 11:17 |
| willcooke | it | 11:17 |
| Laney | 🥇 for me | 11:17 |
| willcooke | :) | 11:18 |
| Laney | fml | 11:19 |
| willcooke | oh?? what happened? | 11:19 |
| Laney | different thing | 11:20 |
| Laney | but thanks for your concern! | 11:20 |
| Laney | laney@raleigh> dpkg --compare-versions 1.14.5-0~ubuntu18.04.1 '>=' 1.14.5 || echo no ~ | 11:20 |
| Laney | no | 11:20 |
| Laney | messed up a version number a bit but thought it would be ok | 11:20 |
| willcooke | heh | 11:20 |
| Laney | turns out it's bloody not | 11:20 |
| willcooke | oh, thats odd | 11:21 |
| Laney | you'd think the first one would be >= the second wouldn't you | 11:21 |
| jamesh | "~" means before | 11:21 |
| Laney | yes | 11:21 |
| Laney | and 0 is basically ignored, that's what the problem is | 11:21 |
| jamesh | So would 1.14.5 and 1.14.5-0 compare equal? | 11:22 |
| Laney | laney@raleigh> dpkg --compare-versions 1.14.5 = 1.14.5-0 && echo yes ~ | 11:22 |
| Laney | yes | 11:22 |
| willcooke | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/testing-the-new-rls-bugs-output/11672 | 12:38 |
| willcooke | desktoppers ^ see what you think | 12:38 |
| willcooke | sleepy face = > 7 days | 12:39 |
| willcooke | sunglasses < 7 days | 12:39 |
| willcooke | since it was updated that is | 12:39 |
| willcooke | thinking about adding a tally for how many bugs people have? Also, what about @ing people? Too invasive? | 12:39 |
| Laney | +1 for @ing | 12:40 |
| Laney | I think the idea is to reply each time with a status update, so that would be helpful as a reminder | 12:40 |
| didrocks | maybe @ing when the bugs goes from sunglasses to sleepy? | 12:41 |
| Laney | if you're saying that sunglasses don't need reporting on then leave them out completely | 12:41 |
| Laney | (disagree, if this is being posted on Monday morning then that's 6 days since the meeting) | 12:42 |
| didrocks | hum, I'm a poller, but some people are pinger-needed | 12:42 |
| didrocks | puller* | 12:42 |
| Laney | the script broke the ñ in Treviño | 12:42 |
| didrocks | outrageous | 12:43 |
| willcooke | urgh. utf8 time | 12:43 |
| Trevinho | arggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 12:43 |
| Trevinho | how dareeeee | 12:43 |
| willcooke | :D | 12:44 |
| Trevinho | ehhehe :) | 12:44 |
| Trevinho | I'm not sure in how many sites I found out that I couldn't login with Treviño but I was able with Trevio xD | 12:44 |
| Laney | does that last activity thing only count activity from the assigned person? | 12:44 |
| Trevinho | I keep it for making sure utf is always well supported :P | 12:45 |
| willcooke | Laney, no it just looks at the last update time | 12:45 |
| Laney | also does it include comments? | 12:45 |
| willcooke | yeah | 12:45 |
| Laney | ok | 12:45 |
| willcooke | adding a comment changes the update time. hmmm.. well I think it does, I will check | 12:45 |
| Laney | they don't appear in +activity, that's why I'm asking | 12:46 |
| Laney | but it looks good, nice work | 12:48 |
| willcooke | thx :) | 12:48 |
| Laney | if you're posting manually, can they be wiki posts then? | 12:48 |
| willcooke | I'll look in to that, I /think/ so | 12:48 |
| Laney | le win | 12:48 |
| willcooke | bah, no "make wiki" button?! | 12:50 |
| willcooke | I'll have to read up | 12:50 |
| Laney | https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-create-a-wiki-post/30802 | 12:50 |
| Laney | if you're a moderator | 12:50 |
| willcooke | yeah, that's the button which is missing | 12:52 |
| willcooke | yet I have admin powers | 12:53 |
| Laney | :'( | 12:53 |
| willcooke | booo... http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking.json | 13:13 |
| willcooke | no unicode in there ^ | 13:13 |
| jibel | could anyone with a machine with an nvme drive boot the latest eoan live cd and tell if he sees the corresponding devices in /dev/ ? | 13:17 |
| seb128 | (not me, I don't have a machine with nvme drivers) | 13:19 |
| seb128 | drives | 13:19 |
| jibel | it's weird I see them with 18.04.2 but not Eoan | 13:19 |
| jibel | question 2: Could someone do an installation of Eoan on a real machine with UEFI? | 13:21 |
| jibel | the important part is uefi. In my case it fails to create the esp | 13:21 |
| willcooke | jibel, sure thing, gimme a little while though | 13:22 |
| jibel | willcooke, I'm using today's build | 13:22 |
| willcooke | downloading | 13:23 |
| willcooke | jibel, I wont be able to do an install (without a lot a faff) so let me see if I can at least see the devices first | 13:23 |
| jibel | i'll try to reproduce in a vm | 13:24 |
| jibel | (the uefi issue) | 13:24 |
| willcooke | Laney, confirming - it _does_ include comments 👍 | 13:42 |
| willcooke | jibel, right, going to test that UEFI thing, brb | 13:54 |
| willcooke | brb | 14:46 |
| oSoMoN | marcustomlinson, https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2019/07/04/tdf-announces-libreoffice-625/ | 16:07 |
| marcustomlinson | oSoMoN: building in my ppa at the moment | 16:08 |
| oSoMoN | ah, I knew you'd be on top of it already :) | 16:08 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 16:08 |
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| willcooke | nighty night all | 17:38 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, are you still getting any issues with snap-store? | 21:00 |
| marcustomlinson | morning robert_ancell :) | 21:04 |
| robert_ancell | marcustomlinson, hi! | 21:04 |
| marcustomlinson | robert_ancell: could you trigger this for me? :) https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=eoan&arch=amd64&package=libreoffice&ppa=marcustomlinson/libreoffice&trigger=libreoffice/1:6.2.5-0ubuntu1 | 21:05 |
| robert_ancell | marcustomlinson, done. I thought I might have to click something but it looks like just following the link did it. | 21:06 |
| marcustomlinson | yeah looks good thanks! | 21:06 |
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