[00:04] <KaitoDaumoto> try youtube for it .. there's a video that legitly works sloshy
[00:05] <KaitoDaumoto> i forgot the name tho ... last time i been using rufus for several times and been same as yours
[00:05] <sarnold> when I did a recent install to a uefi laptop, I just used the standard desktop iso image
[00:06] <tomreyn> sloshy: startup disk creator should actually work. which image were you using?
[00:06] <sarnold> it was really easy, just dd if=ubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/whatever
[00:10] <neonknight77> Hello, I have tried several times using many guides to set up OpenVPN on Ubuntu and I cannot seem to get the server to work. May someone quickly helicopter me thru it?
[00:10] <neonknight77> It is Ubuntu 18 VPS
[00:11] <sarnold> neonknight77: have you seen this one yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[00:11] <neonknight77> @sarnold: I have not, I will re-image my VPS and give it a shot
[00:47] <k_sze> If I have encrypted LVM2 setup, but I told it to *not* immediately wipe the free space (because I wanted the OS installation to complete ASAP), can I tell it later on to wipe the free space?
[00:48] <sarnold> you could get pretty close by doing something like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/lvm/deleteme
[00:48] <k_sze> sarnold, but currently the partitions are using all of my HDD space.
[00:48] <sarnold> it probably won't get *every* block like the first wipe would have done
[00:49] <sarnold> but it'll get MOST of it
[00:53] <blogten> hello, any thoughts on installing flash on Ubuntu Desktop 18.04 LTS?  is adding the "recommended" partner apt repository ok?
[00:54] <blogten> i.e. add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[00:54] <neonknight77> @sarnold: I have followed the guide but when I load systemctl status openvpn@server I get Failed to Start connection
[00:54] <neonknight77> Process: 1120 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --daemon ovpn-server --status /run/openvpn/server.status 10 --cd /etc/openvpn --scri
[00:55] <neonknight77> ifconfig also shows no tun0 device
[00:55] <neonknight77> ran openvpn --mktun --dev tun0 in /dev/ but it didnt help
[00:57] <sarnold> neonknight77: hmmmmm. I'm sorry I didn't think of this earlier.. which provider are you using? is it a *real* system, where you've got real root? or is it a container kind of thing? can you load kernel modules?
[00:57] <neonknight77> it is a top tier VPS
[00:58] <sarnold> blogten: try installing flashplugin-installer -- we've got several flash packages, one where we distribute the binaries (that partner archive) and one where we distribute an *installer* that takes them from the adobe site..
[00:58] <neonknight77> and yes, full root access
[00:58] <sarnold> neonknight77: alright, so more like aws and less like an openvz instance?
[00:59] <neonknight77> KVM
[00:59] <sarnold> hrm :( sorry. that was my best idea
[00:59] <blogten> do you suggest the installer over the packaged binaries?
[01:00] <sarnold> blogten: the installer has a slight chance of going wrong if you can reach an archive mirror to get an update, but adobe's site can't deliver it..
[01:00] <sarnold> blogten: in that case, getting the update from canonical directly may be ever so slightly more reliable
[01:04] <neonknight77> @sarnold: any ideas
[01:06] <sarnold> neonknight77: no, sorry :(
[01:18] <golden_ticket> I'm trying to install ubuntu but when I boot into the installation usb I am presented with a black screen with some glitched stuffed at the very top of the screen
[01:18] <golden_ticket> anyone have any advice?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | golden_ticket
[01:21] <golden_ticket> Bashing-om, how do I set nomodeset though, when I can't even boot into the usb without it being a black screen?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> golden_ticket: Boot the liveUSB, as soon as the bios splash screen clears depress the escape key -> language screen -> escape key again to acceot the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key for boot option -> choose "nomodeset" .
[01:23] <Bashing-om> accept*
[01:24] <golden_ticket> ill try that, thanks
[01:26] <Bashing-om> golden_ticket: When you are installed and rebooted, pastebin ' cat /proc/cmdline ' . Make sure here we do not have to remove that boot option.
[01:36] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, I could not get the screen to change with any of the commands you told me
[01:38] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: Verified the ISO ?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | amazoniantoad
[01:39] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, you think I should download the ISO again?
[01:40] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: No, on another download, just check what you have already downloaded.
[01:41] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, the software for comparing the md5 checksum for windows is no longer there
[01:41] <amazoniantoad> http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe
[01:41] <amazoniantoad> It's a broken link
[01:43] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: checking what I have. wait 2 .,
[01:43] <amazoniantoad> k
[01:47] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, brb
[01:48] <neonknight77> can anyone help with turning on tun0 interface
[02:01] <k_sze> Is it possible to get a different look of the preview when I press [Super + `]?
[02:02] <k_sze> e.g. I have 10 Firefox windows open and it's tiring to switch one by one.
[02:02] <k_sze> Would be nice if there's away to press a keyboard combo and search my open windows by their title.
[02:06] <Thr0r> k_sze: If you have Kubuntu installed - just move the mouse pointer to the upper left corner of the sceen and you will see all open windows..
[02:07] <k_sze> I *wanted* to try Kubuntu. Unfortunately it plain doesn't work with my Intel iGPU somehow.
[02:08] <k_sze> I just get a completely black screen as I log into Kubuntu.
[02:09] <Thr0r> k_sze: oh - that's too bad..
[02:12] <Thr0r> k_sze: You could ask in #Kubuntu or KDE for help for that... They are very helpful..
[02:14] <sarnold> k_sze: if you want to build something yourself you could probably convince dmenu and xdotool or wmctrl to do the trick; your window manager may already have something
[02:18] <k_sze> erm, ubuntu:GNOME?
[02:18] <k_sze> That's my XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[02:19] <k_sze> and my GDMSESSION is ubuntu
[02:22] <sarnold> k_sze: you could try this? https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/973/switcher/
[02:22] <k_sze> oh wow
[02:22] <k_sze> that sounds awesome.
[02:22] <k_sze> let me try that
[02:22] <sarnold> k_sze: gnome extensions are apparently pretty fragile, so if you have stability problems in the futre, try disabling the extensions for a bit and see if things improve
[02:23] <sarnold> but there's positive comments on this one, recently and older, so it feels worth a shot :)
[02:23] <k_sze> it seems to work really well so far
[02:23] <k_sze> Thanks for the tip!
[02:24] <sarnold> you're welcome, have fun :D
[02:34] <nshirelaptop> the gnome wifi scanner page seems to absolutely eat up cpu usage if there are a lot of networks available
[02:39] <nshirelaptop> it uses 100% of a core and locks up gnome while scanning for wifi
[02:45] <coffeecow> im sure you get this all the time but will i soon not be able to do some GoG games in ubuntu cuz the whole 32 bit business
[03:05] <robertparkerx> I'm reading through this guide and I'm following it. It mentions `a2dismod php7.0` to disable 7.0 but my php -v is 5.5.9 -- https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-php-7-3-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[03:05] <robertparkerx> do I do `a2dismod php5.5`
[03:07] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: then you don't seem to run ubuntu 16.04, or you don't run the php which comes with it.
[03:07] <robertparkerx> No I'm just reading the guide
[03:07] <tomreyn> this reports your ubuntu version (amongst other)   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[03:08] <tomreyn> which packages are available can depend on your ubuntu version.
[03:09] <tomreyn> no supported ubuntu release provides php version 5.5.9 (maybe some ESM version does)
[03:12] <robertparkerx> Well I can't do anything at the moment. The server went down.
[03:12] <robertparkerx> I'm sorry.
[03:14] <tomreyn> !eol | robertparkerx: no worries. i suspect you may be running an outdated, insecure, ubuntu installation there, though
[03:25] <robertparkerx> Ubuntu 14.04.6 LTS
[03:26] <robertparkerx> So I cannot install the latest version of PHP?
[03:26] <tomreyn> !14.04
[03:26] <Fenhl> hello! I have a computer which is currently running Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS according to Settings, but I would like to update to the normal (non-LTS) version of Ubuntu. Is this possible?
[03:27] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: either install a supported ubuntu release or !eolupgrade
[03:27] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade
[03:28] <tomreyn> Fenhl: yes, you just have to change a setting which will ensure the updater informs you about availability of non LTS upgrades
[03:30] <Fenhl> tomreyn: where can I find this setting?
[03:31] <tomreyn> Fenhl: i was just looking for how to find it on the GUI, it doesn'T seem to be in "settings", but there is "Software & Updates", do yuo have this?
[03:32] <Fenhl> tomreyn: yes, but clicking on it doesn't seem to do anything. I'm comfortable with the terminal if that helps
[03:32] <tomreyn> in case you don't find this via 'activity' / the dash, you can just press ctrl-f2 and run   software-properties-gtk --open-tab=2
[03:34] <tomreyn> on the bottom, switch the "notify me of a new ubuntu version" option from "for long-term support versions" to "for any version"
[03:34] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, it said the EOL is 2022
[03:34] <robertparkerx> The end of standard support is April 2019
[03:34] <leftyfb> Fenhl: out of curiosity, why do you think you need to upgrade to non-LTS?
[03:35] <robertparkerx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[03:35] <Fenhl> ctrl+F2 doesn't do anything either. Running that command from the terminal gives me a Python traceback with a ModuleNotFoundError for distro_info
[03:35] <leftyfb> robertparkerx: that's only if you have paid for ESM support which is an additional 5 years
[03:35] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: yes, so unless you're a paying ubuntu advantage customer you're out of support.
[03:37] <tomreyn> Fenhl: hmm this sounds like a possibly broken python installation onyour system. here's the terminal approach: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change Prompt=lts to Prompt=normal
[03:37] <robertparkerx> I see
[03:37] <robertparkerx> So I should update Ubuntu
[03:38] <robertparkerx> Do I get to choose what version or is it the latest?
[03:38] <tomreyn> you should ideally have done it before the system lost support, yes
[03:38] <Fenhl> leftyfb: I've been trying to get a piece of software called info-beamer to start without having to log into the window manager
[03:38] <leftyfb> Fenhl: on a raspberry pi?
[03:40] <Fenhl> leftyfb: it seemed that a way to accomplish this would be to start X remotely, but the guides I found didn't match the manpages etc so I figured they were probably for the latest non-LTS version
[03:40] <leftyfb> Fenhl: info-beamer is a commercial product. Please contact them for support. I can tell you that trying to shoe-horn it onto Ubuntu, even later versions isn't going to solve your problem
[03:40] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, I don't understand the sources.list part of it
[03:40] <robertparkerx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades\
[03:41] <Fenhl> leftyfb: no, this is a regular old tower running Ubuntu and I'm using the open-source version of info-beamer, not info-beamer pi
[03:42] <leftyfb> Fenhl: https://community.infobeamer.com/
[03:42] <tomreyn> Fenhl:    sudo do-release-upgrade -c    to initiate a CLI upgrade, or     update-manager -c    for the GUI one. before you do this, see bug 1824866 about your python / apt issue, and make sure you install any pending updates, remove unsupported apt repsoitories and packages and package versions.
[03:43] <leftyfb> Fenhl: https://github.com/superlou/info-beamer
[03:43] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: is this a (headless) server or a system running a graphical desktop?
[03:44] <robertparkerx> headless
[03:44] <Fenhl> leftyfb: this doesn't seem to be relevant since I'm not on Linux Mint?
[03:45] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: let's see your apt repository main configuration file:    sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:46] <leftyfb> Fenhl: well, your end goal isn't to run ubuntu, it's to run info-beamer. Regardless, if you follow his instructions, it looks like you could get it to work with Ubuntu 19.04 or maybe 18.04 using the ppa he links to
[03:46] <robertparkerx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/znczqv4CVN/
[03:47] <Fenhl> leftyfb: info-beamer is running fine. My goal is to be able to start it via SSH without having to sign into the window manager locally
[03:49] <leftyfb> Fenhl: ok, for that you'll need to contact their support
[03:49] <leftyfb> Fenhl: https://community.infobeamer.com/
[03:51] <amazoniantoad> I am trying to boot ubuntu with a particular graphics card. I tried nomodeset and it did not work. Does anyone have any ideas on what I could do?
[03:52] <leftyfb> !details | amazoniantoad
[03:53] <amazoniantoad> leftyfb, The graphics card is a msi gtx geforce 1080 graphics card
[03:53] <amazoniantoad> I just upgraded the most recent version of ubuntu
[03:53] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: sudo cp -p /etc/apt/sources.list{,.backup-20190704} && sudo sed -i s/trusty/xenial/g /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo find /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ -iname '*.list' -exec echo mv '{}' '{}.backup-20190704' \;;
[03:53] <amazoniantoad> so version 19
[03:53] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | amazoniantoad
[03:54] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, how do I get this info?
[03:54] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "$XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";)
[03:55] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/45hn
[03:56] <robertparkerx> tomreyn mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/certbot-certbot-trusty.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/certbot-certbot-trusty.list.backup-20190704
[03:56] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: if you ran these commands i just provided to you, you'll create backups of your current apt repository configuration files with the current date appended (*.backup-20190704), have extra repositories disabled, and have the main ubuntu repositories edited to point to ubuntu xenial, also known as 16.04 LTS.
[03:57] <robertparkerx> Do I execute mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/certbot-certbot-trusty.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/certbot-certbot-trusty.list.backup-20190704
[03:57] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: oh i forgot to remove an 'echo' there, this was just for my local testing. please run this line now, yes.
[03:58] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: actually this needs to be run with sudo
[03:58] <tomreyn> so:   sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/certbot-certbot-trusty.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/certbot-certbot-trusty.list.backup-20190704
[03:58] <robertparkerx> +1
[03:59] <tomreyn> if you     diff /etc/apt/sources.list{.backup-20190704,}     now you'll see your current /etc/apt/sources.list apt sources point to xenial. this should enable you to upgrade.
[04:00] <amazoniantoad> So whenever I try to boot in with my new graphics card I just get a black screen with some lines at the top of the monitor
[04:00] <amazoniantoad> I tried using nomodeset but that didn't do anything. It won't even load grub
[04:01] <amazoniantoad> anyone? ;_;
[04:01] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, I just realized what you did. Thanks alot for that.
[04:02] <robertparkerx> `From version 6.06 and up you will need to install the update-manager and update-manager-core packages. Note: You don't want to install the update-manager package on CLI-only servers.` -- so I skip this?
[04:04] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: i guess that's what it's saying, yes
[04:04] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, the nomodeset idea didn't work. do you have any other advice?
[04:04] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, do I also skip the `Desktop meta` because I don't run or want a desktop version
[04:06] <Fenhl> tomreyn: I don't understand what the resolution for the bug you linked is supposed to be. They say “the package has now been released to -updates” but ubuntu-release-upgrader/bionic-updates doesn't appear to exist
[04:06] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: this *may* be relevant to you: bug 1829620
[04:07] <Ascavasaion> Hello all.   How can i list what wifi adaptor my little Asus t100 has?  Usual lspci is not listing it.
[04:07] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: i would say so, yes
[04:08] <tomreyn> Fenhl: basically all you should need to do is install any pending updates
[04:08] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, so any idea as to a workaround?
[04:08] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: Is this a fresh clean install or something else we are working with ?
[04:09] <Fenhl> tomreyn: I ran apt-get update + dist-upgrade + auto-remove, didn't fix the bug
[04:09] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, fresh clean install. In fact I've booted into it right now. I downgraded my graphics card to an older one I own and I booted into the computer just fine, but I want to use my newer graphics card
[04:09] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: there are three possible workarounds listed on the first post of this bug report. but you should frirst try to understand whether this is actualyl the issue you're dealing with - do you see the very same symptoms dicussed there?
[04:09] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, I think this bug may not be relevant to this issue sadly
[04:09] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, no
[04:10] <tomreyn> amazoniantoad: oh you replaced hardware, this is not something i was aware of.
[04:10] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: K - so what does the system see " sudo lshw -C display '. For a place to start.
[04:11] <tomreyn> it'd be best not to change both hardware and Os at the same time
[04:11] <amazoniantoad> tomreyn, sorry. Yes so I had replaced my msi geforce gtx 1080 graphics card with a geforce gtx 570 graphics card and it booted into it just fine
[04:11] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, ^
[04:12] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/W7iMD9ww
[04:12] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: So maybe is just to see what driver(s) is present .. go from ^^ there .
[04:12] <Fenhl> tomreyn: I also tried installing python3-distro-info, but it was already installed
[04:12] <amazoniantoad> Bashing-om, what do you mean?
[04:13] <tomreyn> Fenhl: then i assume you'll have "python" point to a python interpreter which is not that of your ubuntu release, or one with modules not provided by your ubuntu release.
[04:13] <Fenhl> tomreyn: `where python` says /usr/bin/python
[04:14] <tomreyn> Fenhl: and    readlink -f /usr/bin/python   say?
[04:14] <tomreyn> *sayS
[04:15] <Fenhl>  /usr/bin/python2.7
[04:15] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: So we can see that there is the 570 card recognized and that no driver is loaded, What have you done to install a driver ? and are you going with the other card ?
[04:16] <Fenhl> it doesn't find the distro_info module though, just tried in a repl
[04:16] <tomreyn> Fenhl: hmm then it's probably an issue with the modules. i'm jzst guessing, haven't really seen any error output
[04:16] <sappheiros> an 'installing' menu appeared when i opened startup disk creator, but with no message. do you know what this is ?
[04:16] <tomreyn> Ascavasaion: if lspci doesn't list it it could also be a connected to the USB (run  lsusb)
[04:17] <Fenhl> wait
[04:17] <appa> is there a way I can update a 12.04 without reinstalling?
[04:17] <tomreyn> Ascavasaion: this should normally list it in case it's in lspci:   sudo update-pciids && lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'  | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:17] <appa> I seem to be failing to fetch some packages
[04:17] <Fenhl> `python` is Python 2, the bug is about python3-distro-info
[04:17] <Thr0r> Ascavasaion: iwconfig works well for me
[04:18] <tomreyn> appa: hardly, this has been unsupported for a long time, even the follow-up LTS release (14.04) is unsupported for a month now.
[04:18] <tomreyn> * 2 months
[04:19] <Fenhl> okay, so I installed the python-distro-info package as well and that seems to have crashed my window manager session
[04:19] <Fenhl> logging in loops me back to the login screen
[04:19] <sappheiros> i suspect startup disk creator isn't meant to find the ISO from one external USB drive to be used for another ...
[04:19] <Fenhl> SSH still works
[04:20] <tomreyn> Fenhl: messing with python on a system level is generally a bad idea, since integral parts of the system depend on it.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: screenshot please?
[04:21] <tomreyn> Fenhl: in the future, use virtualenv's and / or operate within the scope of a restricted user.
[04:21] <Fenhl> tomreyn: does installing that package count as “messing with Python on a system level”?
[04:22] <tomreyn> Fenhl: no
[04:22] <tomreyn> Fenhl: but i suspect you did so previously
[04:23] <Fenhl> not that I'm aware of
[04:24] <Fenhl> removed python-distro-info, still can't log in
[04:25] <tomreyn> Fenhl: the python-distro-info package is in the "universe" section / pocket and should thus not be required by any system mechanisms, such as the release upgrader, or apt in general.
[04:25] <Ascavasaion> Hello all.   How can i list what wifi adaptor my little Asus t100 has?  Usual lspci is not listing it.  It is a tablet with a dockable keyboard, running an Atom processor.  Not sure if that could be an issue.
[04:26] <Ascavasaion> haha
[04:26] <Ascavasaion> let me retry thaT
[04:26] <Fenhl> okay, after rebooting I can log in again
[04:26] <Ascavasaion> tomryn, still nothing.  It is connected to the modem/router and working.  It is not listed in either lspci or lsusb.  I did what you said... still nothing.  It is a tablet with a dockable keyboard... atomprocessor.  Not sure if that could be the problem.
[04:27] <y0gur7> could it be that you're missing a driver?
[04:27] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: how can i share a screenshot with you?
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: imgur.com
[04:28] <CrazyLikeAFox> Not sure what's the most appropriate place to ask this-
[04:29] <CrazyLikeAFox> trying to decide between installing i386 or amd64 version of xubuntu 18.04.2lts on a core2 machine
[04:29] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: i'm on cellphone trying to save bandwidth; i just moved the 'installing' window aside and proceeded with the disk startup creator prompt, after copying ISO from other external USB drive to Downloads folder and disconnecting it, and it seems to be creating the bootable USB drive now ...
[04:29] <CrazyLikeAFox> The main factor is, is wine virtualized enough to run 16bit programs on a 64bit os?
[04:29] <sappheiros> it seems that 'installing...' was -- well, it's gone now, so i assume it was actually referring to that initial startup disk creator screen in a redundant sort of way
[04:29] <y0gur7> amd64, CrazyLikeAFox
[04:30] <Bashing-om> amazoniantoad: You still with us ? Did you see my last ?
[04:30] <sappheiros> i.e. waiting for me to make a selection
[04:30]  * sappheiros is on lubuntu 18.10 creating a lubuntu 18.04.2 USB for another old computer
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> sappheiros: please dont use this channel to describe every step you doing
[04:30] <tomreyn> Fenhl: i suggest you use !ppapurge before you try to startt the upgrade, maybe also https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[04:31] <Fenhl> !ppapurge
[04:31] <tomreyn> Ascavasaion: which ubuntu version is running on it now?
[04:31] <CrazyLikeAFox> y0gur7: Wine or similar would work fine for things originally compiled for 16b?
[04:32] <Ascavasaion> tomreyn: 18.04.02 LTS - Xubuntu to be light.
[04:32] <y0gur7> i'm not very familiar with wine, but there's only one way to find out
[04:32] <sappheiros> lotuspsychje: sorry. the main point was that it seemed easier to just move the window out of the way than to upload a screenshot to imgur on an expensive cellphone connection
[04:32] <CrazyLikeAFox> I honestly can't remember if the 16 x 64 incompatibility is specific to <commercial os>, or is only a relevant issue in it
[04:32] <y0gur7> let me do a little research real quick
[04:33] <Ascavasaion> tomreyn: I mean... 18.04.2 LTS
[04:33] <tomreyn> Ascavasaion: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/T100TA has some details on what seems to be the device you have, including on its wireless chipset and the proprietary driver for that.
[04:34] <tomreyn> working with this thing wont be fun
[04:34] <Ascavasaion> tomreyn: Thank you
[04:34] <CrazyLikeAFox> y0gur7: I'm currently setting up a i386 machine (pentium4 so no choice there), but they both have a 32bit 2nd OS
[04:35] <y0gur7> i think running 16-bit applications should work on both amd64 and i386
[04:36] <CrazyLikeAFox> Alright, thanks
[04:37] <y0gur7> no worries
[04:37] <CrazyLikeAFox> Trying something with grub I haven't before, might have an issue with it directly..
[04:39] <tomreyn> Fenhl: if you aren't keen on running the script from github, you can also use (to get a possibly less complete, maybe less correct, but still useful overview on foreign packages)  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported
[04:42] <tomreyn> Fenhl: both of these utilities only handle apt package information, though, can't inspect the overall system state, such as if files were manually (or semi-manually, by utilities such as pip) placed in locations which would have required administrative access. just in case such could be an issue.
[04:44] <appa> tomreyn: so there's no workaroudn other than reinstalling?
[04:44] <xyz111> Hi Guys, I'm trying to set up a little DNS server on 18.04 with PowerDNS - it seems to be unable to bind to port 53, becuase systemd-resolve is binding to those ports already. Can I safely disable systemd-resolve? What is this actually doing and why is it binding to those ports? I haven't had this issue in prior ubuntu distros...
[04:44] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade | there is this, but you'd have to do two manual / improper / unsupported LTS upgrades this way, i would really not recommend it
[04:45]  * tomreyn zzz
[04:45] <appa> it's an old netbook/smartbook  I'm trying to scoot it up to 18.04 but the process of clean install is a bit occult
[04:45] <y0gur7> openrc for life
[05:03] <varaindemian> How can I burn a windows 10 image to a usb drive?
[05:04] <varaindemian> iso image
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> varaindemian: woeusb snap
[05:06] <y0gur7> varaindemian: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/windows.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M
[05:07] <y0gur7> accord adjustingly
[05:07] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: sudo snap install woe-usb --edge
[05:08] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: where I can find it?
[05:09] <varaindemian> y0gur7: if I use dd it will not be seen at boot
[05:10] <deltab> if you use dd make sure it's the right device; don't overwrite your hard drive at /dev/sda
[05:10] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: I mean I installed it but I see no icon
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> varaindemian: you need to search the launch icon in the snap dir
[05:11] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: where is this dir?
[05:11] <y0gur7> have you tried https://tracker.pureos.net/w/recommendations/burn-using-gdisks/
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> varaindemian: check /home/snap perhaps
[05:11] <y0gur7> if that doesn't work you probably have to use the official microsoft iso burner bullshit
[05:13] <y0gur7> i'm not sure if it runs under wine, but it's worth a shot
[05:13] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: it is not there
[05:13] <varaindemian> lotuspsychje: no snap folder in home directory
[05:14] <deltab> /snap/
[05:14] <y0gur7> sudo find / | grep -i 'snap'
[05:15] <varaindemian> yeah it is there
[05:15] <varaindemian> 21 and current
[05:15] <varaindemian> directories
[05:16] <varaindemian> how do I run it now?
[05:18] <deltab> /snap/bin/... I think
[05:25] <varaindemian> deltab: it is a file called woeusbgui
[05:25] <varaindemian> but I cannot open it from nautilus
[05:28] <deltab> do you get an error message?
[05:48] <varaindemian> delita: I don't get anything
[05:48] <varaindemian> it doesn't do anything when I double click it
[05:49] <deltab> try running it from a terminal
[05:51] <varaindemian> deltab: how?
[05:52] <y0gur7> where's the executable located?
[05:52] <varaindemian> /snap/woe-usb/21/bin
[05:52] <varaindemian> there are 2
[05:52] <deltab> /snap/bin/woeusbgui
[05:52] <varaindemian> woeusb and woeusbgui
[05:53] <y0gur7> cd /snap/woe-usb/21/bin && ./woeusbgui
[05:54] <varaindemian> y0gur7: /snap/woe-usb/21/bin/woeusbgui: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_adv-3.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:54] <y0gur7> you're missing a dependency
[05:54] <varaindemian> y0gur7: what should I instal lthen?
[05:54] <deltab> run /snap/bin/woeusbgui
[05:54] <y0gur7> i'm looking it up
[05:55] <varaindemian> deltab: bash: /snap/bin/woeusbgui: No such file or directory
[05:55] <deltab> what's in /snap/bin ?
[05:55] <varaindemian> 21 and current directories
[05:55] <deltab> what's in /snap ?
[05:56] <varaindemian> deltab: bin, core core18 gnome-3-26....
[05:57] <deltab> tried just  woeusbgui  on its own?
[05:58] <varaindemian> deltab: it works now
[05:58] <varaindemian> deltab: /snap/bin/woe-usb.woeusbgui
[05:58] <varaindemian> but I cannot set the target device
[05:59] <deltab> what happens?
[06:00] <varaindemian> https://imgur.com/a/1CxWxnF
[06:13] <varaindemian> deltab: ^
[06:15] <varaindemian> deltab: I tried sudo !!
[06:15] <varaindemian> deltab: mkdir: cannot create directory '/run/user/0': Permission denied
[06:15] <varaindemian> No protocol specified
[06:15] <varaindemian> 09:15:05: Error: Unable to initialize GTK+, is DISPLAY set properly?
[06:15] <varaindemian> any idea?
[06:16] <deltab> no, sorry
[06:16] <deltab> tried using gdisks?
[06:17] <deltab> https://tracker.pureos.net/w/recommendations/burn-using-gdisks/
[06:22] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello All. Got into a weird situation. Screen goes blank suddenly! Ubuntu Budgie 18.04.2 .... only option is to close the laptop lid, then open it again to get a visible lock screen and then unlock
[06:22] <akik> varaindemian: are you trying to write the windows installation iso on an usb drive? you don't need woe-usb to do it
[06:23] <Mr_Cyclops> lotuspsychje, hello :)
[06:24] <varaindemian> akik: that's what i am trying
[06:25] <akik> varaindemian: i can link you to the manual commands that are needed for the task if you want
[06:26] <varaindemian> akik: the problem I have is that if I use dd the usb drive won't be visible at boot
[06:27] <akik> varaindemian: yes it doesn't work with just dd
[06:27] <varaindemian> akik: oh then please tell me
[06:28] <Thr0r> varaindemian: That's a Bios settings on your computer..
[06:29] <varaindemian> Thr0r: what settings?
[06:30] <Thr0r> varaindemian: Not sure what it is called on your computer - but I have had to play around with all kinds of settings to find what is wrong. I think it is some UEfi or Efi..
[06:31] <akik> varaindemian: here's the info what needs to be done. just be 100% sure that you select the correct usb device and partition because data loss is certain if you get those wrong https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/how-to-create-a-bootable-uefi-gpt-windows-10-usb-stick-in-ubuntu/
[06:31] <varaindemian> Thr0r: I restored the default seeting many times
[06:33] <akik> varaindemian: i only put one partition on the usb drive so the partition in that case is /dev/sdX1
[06:34] <varaindemian> akik: that's awesome!
[06:37] <varaindemian> akik: should let ${USB_DEVICE} as it is there?
[06:37] <akik> varaindemian: it'll replace ${USB_DEVICE} with the value you set it
[06:38] <akik> i know there could be more error checking in that :)
[06:38] <akik> varaindemian: this is the command that creates the number 1 partition on the usb drive: sgdisk --new=1:0:0 --typecode=1:0700
[06:39] <varaindemian> akik: what is the difference between /dev/sdxn and sdx?
[06:39] <Thr0r> varaindemian: The default settings in Bios is not always what you need in order to boot from a USB..
[06:39] <akik> varaindemian: maybe you shouldn't use those commands if disks and partitioning is not familiar to you
[06:39] <akik> varaindemian: /dev/sdxn is partition number n on device /dev/sdx
[06:40] <varaindemian> akik: I used sdb
[06:40] <varaindemian> everywhere
[06:41] <akik> Thr0r: the thing is that if you only have an ubuntu installation, you can't just use dd to write the windows installation iso on an usb drive
[06:42] <varaindemian> mkdir ${WIN10_MOUNTPOINT}
[06:43] <varaindemian> akik: I got some errors
[06:43] <Thr0r> akik: Ah - ok - I was sure he had a Working USB but just could not boot with it..
[06:44] <akik> varaindemian: the document is not a copy & paste kind of thing. you need to check that the commands match what you have
[06:48] <akik> varazir: what error did you get?
[06:49] <akik> oops
[06:49] <akik> oh he left :P
[06:56] <Thr0r> Maybe he will be back on #Windows
[07:10] <k_sze> Anybody notice how the rendering of the clock on the lock screen "curtain" is bit weird?
[07:11] <k_sze> Sometimes a right-most chunk of the right-most digit doesn't change.
[07:11] <k_sze> Like you would see a right-most slice of the digit "6" stuck there, while the rest of the digit does change.
[07:12] <k_sze> And sometimes there's a kind of shadow at the bottom of *some* digits for no apparently reason.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> k_sze: screenshot? ubuntu version? graphics card chipset?
[07:26] <k_sze> Ubuntu 18.04, Intel HD Graphics 4600
[07:26] <k_sze> As for screenshot, I'll probably record a short video clip to put on YouTube. It's better to demonstrate it that way.
[07:27] <st4rf0x64> In Terminal I get an error message that says "See "systenctk statzs sssd.service" and "journalctl -xe". How do I access these files through terminal - or rather find where they are stored?
[07:34] <Thr0r> akik: I wanted to try to burn a windows ISO from Ubuntu - But I cannot even find where the ISO files are found. I have product key for Win7 and Vista..
[07:35] <cfhowlett> how would we know where you placed the windows .iso?
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> st4rf0x64: please explain your whole story? you getting an error in terminal when you tryed what exactly? ubuntu version?
[07:37] <Thr0r> cfhowlett: Seriously.. Where to download it from...
[07:37] <st4rf0x64> I am following a tutorial to get an Ubuntu Server into a Windows Active Directory (latest LTS ubuntu).When trying to start the sssd.service it just fails and tells me to look in these files for details lotuspsychje
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> st4rf0x64: please join #ubuntu-server
[07:38] <cfhowlett> Thr0r, see that channel?  UBUNTU support.  ask ##windows?
[07:39] <Thr0r> cfhowlett: This was an ongoing discussion here - related to ubuntu - before you entered here now..
[07:39] <cfhowlett> ok
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> Thr0r: correction, this channel is NOT for discussions, only ubuntu support
[07:41] <Thr0r> lotuspsychje: You never change.. And continue to scare off new users - Still
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Thr0r: we have seperate channels for every ubuntu topic, please use them
[07:43] <danieled> hi all, I need help for developing google home intents. Someone can suggest me a channel?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !alis | danieled
[07:46] <spinningCat> how can i fix this error https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/4e128c51fca931c0cb83c72a87bffdfd
[07:48] <spinningCat> check this please https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/4e128c51fca931c0cb83c72a87bffdfd
[07:49] <cfhowlett> spinningCat, you waited 5 whole minutes before posting again?  PATIENCE!
[07:49] <spinningCat> no no i fixed something on that link
[07:49] <blackflow> spinningCat: your apache is misconfigured (no mpm)
[07:49] <spinningCat> it cuts the some part of message in first link
[07:49] <spinningCat> do i need to install a package or something?
[07:50] <blackflow> spinningCat: is this ubuntu? which ubuntu? did you install apache and out of the box it doesn't work?
[07:50] <spinningCat> yes it is ubuntu and i installed apache
[07:51] <spinningCat> ubuntu 18.04 i guess
[07:54] <blackflow> spinningCat: can you pastebin the output of  `apt-cache policy apache2`   please?
[07:55] <spinningCat> sure
[07:58] <spinningCat> https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/63dc4f94caab1452224fe16ea593fc12
[08:01] <blackflow> spinningCat: can you pastebin  `apachectl configtest` ?
[08:02] <spinningCat> just a sec
[08:04] <spinningCat> here https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/681b8ad1ef577ebdf9e939c51c863391
[08:05] <blackflow> spinningCat: figures... can you pastebin the error log? I think it's /var/log/apache/error_log  or something along those lines. no need for whole log, just the entries timestamped for your last attempt
[08:07] <spinningCat> blackflow,  gimme a sec
[08:10] <spinningCat> all logs is about May 7
[08:11] <spinningCat> this is July
[08:13] <blackflow> spinningCat: ok, try  `a2enmod mpm_prefork`   and then try starting apache again
[08:14] <blackflow> spinningCat: if that fails, please pastebin entire apache2 config. start with /etc/apache2/apache2.conf  and we'll see from there.
[08:14] <spinningCat> is it a problem https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/681b8ad1ef577ebdf9e939c51c863391
[08:16] <blackflow> spinningCat: thing is, out of the box it works. you had some prior config or other changes that are causing failure. this is not out of the box setup, if "all" you did was `apt install apache2`
[08:18] <sentiment> hi. man this is really bad
[08:18] <sentiment>  Android, being a Linux device, has trouble connecting to a
[08:18] <sentiment>                    Linux PC for file transfer
[08:18] <sentiment> and no this doens't happen on Windows
[08:19] <sentiment> and no this doens't happen on Windows
[08:19] <blackflow> what "trouble"
[08:19] <sentiment> oh the irony
[08:19] <sentiment> whenever I connect my android phone to transfer some files
[08:19] <sentiment>                    to the phone, it either keeps locking up , unable to mount
[08:19] <sentiment>                    or if it gets connected, the files wouldn't transfer
[08:19] <sentiment> sorry, I was copy pasting from another channel
[08:19] <blackflow> (and also, "Android" is a whole java-like ecosystem based on heavily modified Linux kernel, so no, the comparison is not adequate)
[08:19] <sentiment> right now it doesn't even mount anymore
[08:19] <blackflow> any clues in dmesg?
[08:20] <sentiment> blackflow:
[08:20] <sentiment> [sr1] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[08:20] <sentiment> [ 9230.648231] sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] tag#0 CDB: Start/Stop Unit 1b 00 00 00 02 00
[08:20] <sentiment> [ 9230.648267] sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[08:20] <sentiment> [ 9230.648269] sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] tag#0 CDB: Prevent/Allow Medium Removal 1e 00 00 00 00 00
[08:21] <spinningCat> blackflow,  https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/681b8ad1ef577ebdf9e939c51c863391
[08:21] <sentiment> I don't want to sound like a nagger, but boy this OS is really time wasting .
[08:21] <blackflow> sentiment: dude..... pastebin
[08:22] <sentiment> for just three lines? ok
[08:22] <blackflow> don't care, pastebin.
[08:22] <sentiment> what's the pastebin url? the one with nc?
[08:22] <blackflow> !pastebin
[08:22] <sentiment> no, the automatic one
[08:22] <blackflow> ... | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:23] <sentiment> yeah that
[08:23] <sentiment> https://termbin.com/8oxc
[08:23] <blackflow> sentiment: "Out of memory: Kill process 7215 (gvfsd-mtp) score 809 or sacrifice child"
[08:23] <blackflow> gvfsd-mtp is doing the transfers
[08:23] <sentiment> yeah, sounds surely creepy
[08:24] <sentiment> I didn't initiate any file transfer
[08:24] <blackflow> sounds like you're out of RAM there and possibly out of enough swap
[08:24] <sentiment> hmm
[08:24] <sentiment> definitely not out of either one, according to top
[08:25] <blackflow> what does `free -m` say?
[08:25] <sentiment> free enough
[08:25] <sentiment> free mem: 1908
[08:25] <sentiment> free swap: 5834
[08:26] <spinningCat> blackflow,  anything about my problem i may purge apache2
[08:26] <blackflow> spinningCat: I told you what to do. pastebin the config file.
[08:26] <spinningCat> i did
[08:27] <spinningCat> https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/681b8ad1ef577ebdf9e939c51c863391
[08:27] <blackflow> ah it's at the end of all that other output, k, lemme see
[08:27] <spinningCat> yes i also pasted log
[08:29] <blackflow> spinningCat: is mpm_event.{load,conf}  in /etc/apache2/modules-enabled/   ?  if yes, can you please pastebin them?
[08:30] <blackflow> sentiment: it's possible gvfsd-mtp is having an issue with that particular phone.
[08:31] <sentiment> blackflow: clearly it's mess. any clues where to go from here?
[08:31] <sentiment> besides Windows
[08:31] <jmft2> Hi, 18.04 and 5.1.16 here. The sound on one of my machines (Asus E200H laptop) hasn't ever worked. I've tried the tricks I found online, reinstalling (purge) pulseaudio and alsa-base, but no avail.
[08:32] <spinningCat> blackflow,  there is  no npm_event.{load.conf] here
[08:32] <sentiment> just rebooted the phone
[08:32] <jmft2> https://pastebin.com/WbPGgEWW
[08:33] <spinningCat> blackflow,  seems something is missing here right?
[08:33] <jmft2> ^ output of lspci -vv. Any tips?
[08:33] <blackflow> spinningCat: yeah. it should be default. is there any mpm_* module?
[08:33] <blackflow> spinningCat: are there any in /etc/apache2/modules-available/    just not symlinked?
[08:34] <blackflow> sentiment: not sure what to tell you. Never had issues with several of Samsung phones I had over the years. I'm not denying there can't be, just that I never had issues to have any experience on how to fix them.
[08:35] <blackflow> sentiment: you could try again asking later, maybe someone has more clues on how to troubleshoot this. maybe prepare a pastebin with that dmesg output and other relevant info (phone model etc...), so you can paste a single link summarized.
[08:35] <spinningCat> blackflow, npm_prefork.conf, npm_prefork.load i have
[08:36] <spinningCat> blackflow,  i have mods_enabled
[08:36] <sentiment> Windows to the rescure. Rebooting the phone didn't work
[08:37] <sentiment> blackflow: thanks, I might do that
[08:37] <blackflow> sentiment: yeah mods-available is where the modules are, and mods-enabled is where they're symlinked from
[08:37] <blackflow> ugh... spinningCat ^^^^  :)
[08:37] <jmft2> https://pastebin.com/KbvmwHGQ < output of alsa force-reload
[08:38] <spinningCat> should i purge apache and install again?
[08:39] <blackflow> spinningCat: sure, try that.
[08:39] <blackflow> spinningCat: purge, make sure ther's no /etc/apache2/ dir present, then reinstall.
[08:41] <blackflow> jmft2: there's no audio device listed. do you know which chipset it is? seems like something not included in default kernel
[08:42] <jmft2> https://pastebin.com/rZSgSU7z < output of aplay -l
[08:43] <blackflow> jmft2: that's hdmi audio. is that the only audio you have there?
[08:43] <blackflow> ie. not a separate audio chipset, no separate audio jacks on the chassis of.... whatever that is?
[08:43] <jmft2> blackflow: I don't think so, there's the usual 3.5mm headphone jack as well
[08:43] <jmft2> Which doesn't work, of course
[08:44] <blackflow> well, your aplay output lists only hmdi audio (so your monitor shoudl sound off). there's no dedicated audio device in lspci
[08:45] <blackflow> jmft2: but to cross out the most obvious, did you try fiddling with output devices and volumes  via pulseaudio settings interface?
[08:45] <jmft2> $ pulseaudio
[08:45] <jmft2> W: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
[08:45] <jmft2> Killed
[08:46] <blackflow> jmft2: if this is regular ubuntu, the settings are in the Sound section of main Settings app
[08:47] <jmft2> On Settings->Sound->Output no devices are listed. In the past, two were listed but they didn't work either. They seem to have gone when I upgraded kernel from 4.18
[08:47] <blackflow> jmft2: sorry, I don't know how to help you further.
[08:48] <jmft2> blackflow: Okay, thanks anyway. I'll see if HDMI sound output works, but don't have the appropriate adaptor to hand. And I'll try to look up what chipset this sound card has and see if I can find any drivers
[08:48] <blackflow> jmft2: you can prepare a single pastebin with problem explanation and the relevant output of lspci and aplay, and ask here again with that link sometime later, maybe someone knows. note that it's (worky) morning in EU, and east coast USA will wake up later, and they also have a holiday today.
[08:48] <blackflow> so... patience
[08:50] <blackflow> spinningCat: fixed?
[08:51] <jmft2> blackflow: According to https://forum.manjaro.org/t/asus-e200h-cherrytrail-sound-card-not-detected/14573, 'I believe with Cherrytrail Atom processors/systems there is no  dedicated sound card, it is built into the chipset/processor. Intel®  Cherry Trail Quad-Core Z8300.'
[08:54] <blackflow> jmft2: that'd be the HDMI thing yes. I guess the kernel doesn't have proper support for that particular model and version of the chipset. There's also this: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=274487
[08:56] <spinningCat> blackflow,  i fixed dpkg with dpkg --configure -a
[08:56] <spinningCat> i will reboot the machine new kernel image was installed
[08:56] <blackflow> spinningCat: great. I wonder why that didn't work when you first installed it.
[08:58] <jmft2> blackflow: That's amazing, I'll give the patch (https://github.com/heikomat/linux/tree/cx2072x/cx2072x_fixes_and_manual) a go
[08:59] <blackflow> jmft2: careful, you're on your own, we don't generally recommend applying random patches to the kernel like that, here.
[09:02] <spinningCat> how can i check certain word exist in file structure? like apache2
[09:02] <EriC^> spinningCat: grep -i <word> /etc/apache2...
[09:02] <blackflow>  -ri
[09:03] <jmft2> blackflow: Sure, although it's a bit of a burner laptop anyway
[09:03] <blackflow> spinningCat: oh but wait, are you asking if there's a file or dir named "apache2" or are you looking for a word occuring in a file under some dir tree?
[09:04] <spinningCat> i purged apache2
[09:05] <spinningCat> i try to remove every apache folder or file from flesystem
[09:05] <spinningCat> then i will install apache2 again
[09:05] <EriC^> spinningCat: find -iname 'apache' /etc
[09:05] <blackflow> spinningCat: I thought you fixed it with dpkg reconfigure.
[09:06] <spinningCat> blackflow,  it didnt fix
[09:07] <spinningCat> EriC^,  is there any apache2 folder or file except /etc?
[09:07] <blackflow> also, looking for inodes with "apache" in it might not be complete. ideally you shouldn't remove anthing manually, except make sure there's no /etc/apache2 dir after you purge
[09:07] <Flannel> spinningCat: Deleting the files won't accomplish that.  You need to purge the packages, then reinstall them.  Deleting the files and reinstalling will result in no files, because your installer assumes you know better and deleted them on purpose
[09:07] <spinningCat> i guess not
[09:07] <EriC^> spinningCat: well the configs should be in /etc , some stuff will be in other dirs and the website is /var/www
[09:07] <spinningCat> Flannel,  it is purged already
[09:08] <EriC^> purge should remove the configs as mentioned
[09:08] <Flannel> spinningCat: If there's still files in /etc, you didn't purge all of the packages.
[09:08] <Flannel> spinningCat: What packages did you purge?
[09:08] <spinningCat> apache2
[09:08] <blackflow> apt autoremove --purge apache2
[09:08] <spinningCat> i removed apache2 in etc manually after purging package
[09:08] <spinningCat> let me try that command
[09:08] <Flannel> spinningCat: the `apache2` package includes very few files, there's sub-packages that include all the stuff.
[09:09] <blackflow> apache2 package actually contains the /etc/ files. apache2-bin is where teh server itself is
[09:09] <EriC^> the autoremove --purge should do you good
[09:09] <spinningCat> Flannel,  subpackage?
[09:10] <spinningCat> let me install apache2
[09:10] <Flannel> spinningCat: Sorry, that's not actually a thing.  apache2 depends on a variety of other packages which also contain additional apache files, binary and config, etc.
[09:10] <blackflow> spinningCat: like apache2-bin, apache2-data, ....   but they should be removed with autoremove, as deps of apache2
[09:10] <Flannel> spinningCat: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/apache2
[09:10] <Flannel> spinningCat: See the first few *apache* dependencies, apache2-bin, apache2-data, apache2-utils
[09:10] <blackflow> okay let's stop with confusing advice here.
[09:11] <spinningCat> apache2-bin is still on my system
[09:11] <blackflow> apt autoremove apache2 will remove apache2 package (which contains teh main configs in /etc/) and all the apache2-* dependencies. that alone should suffice.
[09:11] <spinningCat> i see but i did autoremove apache2-bin is still here
[09:12] <blackflow> the autoremove is key here. just uninstalling apache2 will not uninstall its deps. autoremove will (which can be called as additional step: `apt autoremove`) as instructed by the installer
[09:12] <Flannel> and actually, just uninstalling apache2 won't remove any of the config files contained within apache2 either.
[09:12] <spinningCat> apt-cache policy apache2-bin
[09:12] <spinningCat> apache2-bin:
[09:12] <spinningCat>   Installed: 2.4.29-1ubuntu4.6
[09:12] <spinningCat> apache2-data and apache2-utils is not in my system
[09:13] <blackflow> Flannel: therefore --purge was given
[09:13] <blackflow> spinningCat: just run `apt autoremove --purge`  ... did that remove apache2-bin and friends?
[09:13] <Flannel> blackflow: I'm just clarifying for spinningCat. Not saying you're wrong.
[09:14] <spinningCat> i am doing that manually https://gist.github.com/spinningcat/74e842ab5d911388029c95e8547bf0be
[09:14] <spinningCat> that command removed apache2-data and apache2-utils but not apache2-bin
[09:15] <blackflow> spinningCat: just run `apt autoremove --purge`, don't name any packages. did that remove apache2-bin and friends?
[09:16] <spinningCat> removed
[09:16] <spinningCat> i am reinstalling now
[09:16] <blackflow> great.
[09:16] <spinningCat> let see what will happen
[09:17] <spinningCat> problem fixed
[09:17] <blackflow> tip the bot
[09:17] <spinningCat> .tip
[09:17] <blackflow> !botsnack
[09:17] <spinningCat> !botsnack
[09:18] <blackflow> k, next satisfied customer. :)
[09:18] <spinningCat> i think bot does not care me
[09:18] <spinningCat> in javascript channel there is such command
[09:18] <spinningCat> !next
[09:30] <caroga> Hi all, quick questions. Ubuntu's nouveau driver should be able to work with HDMI and mini display ports, right?
[09:32] <akem-lnvo> caroga, If it doesn't work for you, you can try the nvidia drivers, they are recommended with nvidia.
[09:33] <akem-lnvo> caroga, ubuntu-drivers list
[09:37] <martiansoul> how to give permissions to access a file to a user?
[09:38] <blackflow> martiansoul: depends on exactly what you want to achieve, can you give more detail?
[09:42] <martiansoul> i want jenkins to be able to put logs in a logfile located at `/home/me/logs/crawler.log`. but when i run the application through jenkins, it shows permissions denied.
[09:44] <martiansoul> and i have a user jenkins which shows like this in `less /etc/passwd`: `jenkins:x:1003:1002::/home/jenkins:/bin/bash`
[09:44] <blackflow> martiansoul: does jenkins have a dedicated log dir for itself? I'd recommend you leave the default logs there, accessible by the "jenkins" user, and symlink to your home if you must have access there.
[09:45] <blackflow> martiansoul: then rather make the jenkins logs accessible (readable) by your main user, instead.
[09:45] <martiansoul> okay.
[09:45] <martiansoul> i'll try it
[09:46] <blackflow> martiansoul: now, you should check if jenkins is protecting the logs to be readable only by that user, or they're world-readable, in which case you don't need to change any permissions.
[09:50] <martiansoul> jenkins doesn't have a dedicated log directory it seems
[09:51] <caroga> akem-lnvo, I have the nvidia drivers as well, but these heat up my laptop and eats battery. I've disabled them. I was wondering if the nouveau driver would at all be able to have multiple monitors.
[09:53] <blackflow> martiansoul: sounds like a problem highly specific to Jenkins, on how to set up its operation and logging. I can't help you there tho'. however, allowing another user write permission into your home is illadvised.
[09:53] <caroga> ^ ill advised, very least :d
[09:54] <martiansoul> i want to go with allowing jenkins the permission to write on my home directory, just for now.
[09:55] <martiansoul> blackflow you please guide me there?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !ping
[10:28] <blackflow> martiansoul: sorry, no, I don't support bad practice. configure whatevre application you're running "through jenkins", to run with testing-specific config and logs to a path where the user it runs as can write, or eg. /tmp/
[10:28] <blackflow> martiansoul: how to do _that_ exactly is Jenkins or application specific.
[10:28] <arafat_hasan> whois arafat_hasan
[10:49] <leon-anavi> hi, how are you? I am experiencing an issue with bzip2 version 1.0.6-8.1ubuntu0.1
[10:50] <leon-anavi> After recent upgrade on Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 bzip2 is no longer capable of extracting tbz2 files. Version 1.0.6-8 is fine with the same packages.
[10:50] <leon-anavi> How should I proceed to report this bug in more details?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !bug | leon-anavi
[11:47] <tuskkk____> hey guys, the OS is freezing up randomly for me, any things I can do to investigate the cause?
[11:48] <tuskkk____> right now, I kept it for 2 hrs like this, hoping it would find its way back
[11:59] <isomari> I have 2 identical servers both running 18.04. My user terminal has colored ls output but one one of them has colored output as root. Bith have identical .bashrc and .profile files. What could be the issue?
[11:59] <isomari> only one
[12:00] <isomari> let me rephrase. both have colored output as user but oly one has color output as root.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:12] <leon-anavi> I've reported the bzip2 bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzip2/+bug/1835404
[12:30] <de-facto> How can i delete the ability for Gnome to deliver any popup spam in notifications?
[12:31] <de-facto> it spams me again every few seconds that my mouse battery is empty. its extremely annoying
[12:57] <climaxio> Hey all, I just got a new modem and router and now cannot connect to the internet with my lubuntu server. Can anyone help me out? I can connect to the WiFi but when I try to ping anything, there is no connection
[13:02] <luna_> New Ubuntu Podcast episode time :)
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> climaxio: if its about the network part, you can ask in ##networking if its about server, #ubuntu-server
[13:50] <tpanmajia> hello, i have to ask a question
[13:51] <tpanmajia> why doesn't linux-oem kernel support Intel GVT-g?
[13:51] <tpanmajia> I was following this tutorial on ArchWiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_GVT-g
[13:52] <tpanmajia> However I cannot find this file: /sys/devices/pci${GVT_DOM}/$GVT_PCI/mdev_supported_types
[13:52] <lordcirth> tpanmajia, that article states that you will need kernel 4.16+. The linux-oem kernel on 18.04 is 4.15.
[13:52] <tpanmajia> loadcirth: thx, i'm actually aware of this fact
[13:53] <tpanmajia> loadcirth: i'm on disco(19.04)
[13:53] <lordcirth> !info linux-oem disco
[13:53] <tpanmajia> loadcirth: any plans on backporting Intel GVT-d on linux-oem, or upgrading the kernel version of it?
[13:54] <tpanmajia> !info linux-image-oem disco
[13:54] <tpanmajia> wtf
[13:54] <tpanmajia> i can find this package by grepping dpkg output
[13:55] <lordcirth> tpanmajia, 19.04 comes with kernel 5.0 by default, doesn't it? Why downgrade to 4.15?
[13:56] <tpanmajia> lordcirth, thanks for your consideration, and the version of my vanilla ubuntu kernel is 5.0
[13:56] <tomreyn> and why the oem kernel?
[13:56] <tpanmajia> however my machine is ubuntu certified
[13:56] <tpanmajia> its model is Dell Inspiron 7580, and it's certified when using the oem kernel
[13:56] <tpanmajia> moreover, when using the vanilla kernel its fan is always making noises
[13:57] <tpanmajia> so practically it's impossible to use the vanilla one :(
[13:57] <Ublx> isn't the group #rsync active? lots of users in the list but no talk!?
[13:57] <tomreyn> !ot | Ublx
[13:57] <tomreyn> see also !alis
[13:57] <blackflow> Ublx: we don't know. do you have a problem with rsync on Ubuntu?
[13:58] <tpanmajia> lordcirth, this is my machine's ubuntu certification: https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201807-26317/
[13:58] <climaxio>  Is there a paid service for home server networking help? I am happy and willing to pay for a faster response time than this
[13:58] <tomreyn> tpanmajia: this is a certification for ubuntu 18.04 LTS, you said you're running 19.04
[13:59] <lordcirth> tpanmajia, perhaps it is better to try to fix the fan problem on 5.0?
[13:59] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, oh i got it, but because i felt really comfortable on linux-oem, i'm hesitant to switch
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> climaxio: keep in mind this support channel runs on volunteering work
[14:00] <tpanmajia> lordcirth, that sounds reasonable
[14:00] <tpanmajia> however, in vanilla kernel the problem persists
[14:00] <tpanmajia> i'm rather busy in real life, so i have little time to fix it :(
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> climaxio: see !canonical advantage for payed support
[14:00] <climaxio> lotuspsychje, I appreciate that, but I am interested in an alternative paid service if it exists
[14:00] <climaxio> Thanks
[14:00] <tpanmajia> perhaps i should to file a bug
[14:01] <tomreyn> tpanmajia: you already switched away from the certification by upgrading to / installing ubuntu 19.04. now you can either try to make this work well (outside of the certification) or install 18.04 LTS and the oem kernel there.
[14:01] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, oh thanks
[14:01] <tomreyn> for the first approach, you should use the generic 19.04 kernel.
[14:02] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, i got it, but actually the vanilla kernel doesn't fix the fan problem
[14:02] <tpanmajia> i upgraded from 18.04 and tried vanilla kernel,
[14:03] <tomreyn> tpanmajia: so just keep the oem kernel on 19.04, which does exist: https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/linux-image-oem
[14:03] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, thanks, and actually i'm on the oem kernel
[14:04] <tpanmajia> may i file a bug?
[14:04] <tomreyn> tpanmajia: the file path you reported you ould not find contained place holders
[14:04] <tpanmajia> perhaps i should know about something like a bug report website
[14:04] <tomreyn> this: /sys/devices/pci${GVT_DOM}/$GVT_PCI/mdev_supported_types
[14:05] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, yes, that's my fault
[14:05] <tpanmajia> actually i exported the necessary PCI IDs
[14:05] <tpanmajia> ... and executed this command
[14:06] <tomreyn> !bug | tpanmajia
[14:06] <tpanmajia> i double checked the corresponding folder in /sys for this device, and it is actually representing a graphics card
[14:06] <tpanmajia> !ubuntu-bug linux-generic
[14:06] <tpanmajia> sorry, i may have invoked the wrong command
[14:06] <tomreyn> you'd run this on your computer after ensuring that there actually is an issue.
[14:07] <tpanmajia> oh dammit
[14:07] <tpanmajia> it's a shell command, i forgot
[14:07] <tomreyn> if you are unsure, we can try to help you determine whether that's so.
[14:07] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, thanks
[14:07] <tpanmajia> i launched this command from terminal, and apport launched
[14:07] <luna_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BygdwzKKJNM&
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> not here luna
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> its not the first time we telling you this
[14:08] <tpanmajia> ... so i think i have to switch to the vanilla kernel and let apport collect necessary information, when i have enough time
[14:08] <tpanmajia> it's sad that only the linux-oem kernel doesn't have the fan problem
[14:10] <tpanmajia> tomreyn, have a nice day
[14:15] <robertparkerx> I was talking with someone last night about EOLUpgrades - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades. I'm down to the Kernels section. I'm not sure what it means there.
[14:15] <robertparkerx> Should I check my kernel version?
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: can you tell us where you at right now?
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: whats your current situation?
[14:16] <robertparkerx> I'm on 14.04 right now. He helped me update the source list to xenial and backup my original settings
[14:16] <robertparkerx> I skipped the update manager and desktop because I'm on CLI-only.
[14:17] <robertparkerx> That is basically where I'm at right now.
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: are you on desktop or server please?
[14:17] <robertparkerx> server
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: you might wanna continue in #ubuntu-server 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade might need some adjustments
[14:46] <Guest86948> Hello. I am having trouble booting. I can get past grub, and past plymouth, but then it hangs indefinately. I am currently on live cd, and have my filesystem mounted and am ssh'd to it. how can i figure out the proplem preventing complete boot?
[14:47] <Oderus> ok sorry that was me asking the questiong about booting
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: are you trying to install ubuntu, or rescue data from a previous install?
[14:48] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: trying to resue my install
[14:48] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: worked great yesterday now today I rebooted and thats the issue i am having
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: whats your ubuntu version please, and where does it go wrong without the live?
[14:49] <Oderus> 19.04, and it hangs indefinately after giving a message about plymouth screen (which has not been changed)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: try to boot your system and press F1 for textbooting, see at wich point it hangs, to see the error
[14:50] <Oderus> is there a file it would have written this information to that i can check from livecd
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: you can browse your logs if you like in /var/log/..
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: another option you can try is to boot a previous kernel from grub, see if you can bypass plymouth hang
[14:53] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: i actually did try that, and the result is the same
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: i would go for the realtime F1 textboot, that way you can actually see what hangs where
[14:55] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: ok i will go try that now
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: did you be able to catch something?
[14:59] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: oddly enough, i hit f1 like you said, and uhhh.. it booted up just fine
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> oO
[15:01] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: sorry I lost connection if you replied
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: so, its fixxed now?
[15:03] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: apparently it fixed itself one way or another! no idea how or why but yes, after I hit f1 to view the output, it just booted up like normal.
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: F1 is actually just to switch from ubuntu logo to the textbooting behind it, doesnt really solve things
[15:04] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: hmmm i am not sure as to why it was failing then
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> Oderus: if you still want to investigate it, you can browse your logs
[15:05] <Oderus> lotuspsychje: i will try rebooting a few times to confirm it is working, and leave it at that. thank you for your assistance and replies! <3
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[15:33] <Oderus> i am getting a lot of errors that files in ./config cannot be written to
[15:34] <Oderus> Configuration file "/home/tweak/.config/trash.sorc" not writable
[15:34] <Oderus> and other files in the same place. drkonqrc, donphinrc
[15:35] <tomreyn> this sounds like you may be running kubuntu? there is #kubuntu , too.
[15:36] <Oderus> tomreyn: alright i will ask there
[15:36] <tomreyn> Oderus: we can continue here, too, this was mostly a hint for later.
[15:37] <tomreyn> okay let's move there
[15:39] <ScissorLiftFox> So, trying to burn an iso of xubuntu 18.04.2lts AMD64, on a xbuntu 18.04.2lts i386 system I just setup
[15:39] <sruli> ssh-add /path/to/key_file i enter passphrase but it does not remember it, why? how do i resolve this? (ssh-agent is running)
[15:39] <ScissorLiftFox> xfburn keeps returning an error "Failure: Cannot reserve track of 1475260416 bytes" and ejects the media
[15:42] <tomreyn> ScissorLiftFox: this may point out that the image does not fit the media
[15:43] <tomreyn> ScissorLiftFox: i generally prefer usb sticks or hdds, ssds, as installation media over optical ones (cd-/dvd/blue ray-rom/rw)
[15:45] <ScissorLiftFox> tomreyn: brand new 4.7GB DVD-R media, and 1.4GB image
[15:46] <ScissorLiftFox> On another machine, I used media from the same package to make the disc I used in this one
[15:46] <ScissorLiftFox> tried a couple different discs too
[15:46] <tomreyn> ScissorLiftFox: then it will likely be one of the many usual issues with optical media ranging from dirty laser to broken media surface
[15:47] <tomreyn> ScissorLiftFox: on a side note, there is also #xubuntu if you'd like help with !flavour specific software / configurations
[15:48] <ScissorLiftFox> tomreyn: Ah, what would the default software in ubuntu proper be for burning images?
[15:54] <tomreyn> ScissorLiftFox: hmm brasero, i think, but i'm not really sure, haven't used optical media in years.
[15:59] <jmft2> Hi, 18.04 and kernel 5.1.16 here. I'm on an ASUS E200H laptop and the sound has never worked for me. I've tried things like reinstalling pulseaudio but to no avail --- it seems that the kernel has no support for the sound drivers. Any tips or workarounds?
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> jmft2: is there a reason you dont use 4.15 or 4.18 kernel?
[16:00] <jmft2> https://pastebin.com/smS9E5mC << results of lspci and other commands. It's picking up the HDMI sound (which I haven't tested) but not the usual 3.5mm jack
[16:00] <jmft2> lotuspsychje: I upgraded in the hope that the new kernel would support the sound device
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> jmft2: recommended would be you use the kernel that came with bionic, or HWE then troubleshoot your sounds from there first
[16:02] <ScissorLiftFox> brasero also doesn't work, from it's log file Error = 15 "An error occurred while writing to disc", and "BraseroLibburn Something went wrong"
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> jmft2: if you cant find it, you can always consider creating a new !bug for it
[16:03] <n0cto> I have an issue on Ubuntu 19 where if I su to a different user, tab auto-complete is disabled. Also (only whiled su as another user), files/directories are no longer differentiated by color. Anyone know what’s going on and how to fix?
[16:03] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | n0cto
[16:03] <n0cto> 19.04
[16:05] <NetTerminalGene> does ubuntu 18.04 use wayland by default?
[16:05] <ScissorLiftFox> I'm gonna try downloading a burning an image while on liveDVD on the other machine, it has two dvd drives
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> jmft2: can we see a dmesg log in a pastebin from your laptop please?
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> jmft2: prefarable booted from 4.15 or 4.18 kernel
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> NetTerminalGene: by default gnome is default on ubuntu-desktop, wayland chooseable at login gdm
[16:08] <NetTerminalGene> ok
[16:09] <tomreyn> NetTerminalGene: so the gdm login manager uses wayland by default, but the main desktop defaults to xorg
[16:09] <ScissorLiftFox> \
[16:10] <lowin> Hello. I'm using xubuntu 18.04, I have a problem that maybe you can help me. In some gtk programs, namely gnucash and filezilla, textboxes are broken. In that typing into them works but backspace, tab etc. buttons don't. but if I press backspace and then alt tab out and back in again, one character is deleted
[16:10] <lowin> It's super annoying. is there any solution?
[16:12] <lowin> I thought it was a gnucash problem at first. but then I found out filezilla has the same problem so I figured it must be a problem with one of gtk libs or something
[16:12] <n0cto> I have an issue on Ubuntu 19.04 where if I su to a different user, tab auto-complete is disabled. Also (only while su-ed as another user), files/directories are no longer differentiated by color. Anyone know what’s going on and how to fix?
[16:13] <lowin> n0cto, your problem is that .bashrc for the user you are su-ing on is different from your regular user. try copying your .bashrc to that user's home
[16:14] <lowin> Though be careful if you are replacing root's .bashrc, there are usually some failsafe aliases by default for root that will get replaced if you do this.
[16:14] <ioria> n0cto, why don't you use  sudo -i instead ?
[16:15] <ioria> lowin, are the ibus packages installed properly ?
[16:16] <lowin> ioria, I don't know how it can be related to ibus, but I'm using ibus just fine
[16:17] <lowin> Atleast in other programs there is no problem.
[16:17] <ioria> lowin, please, check dpkg -l | grep ibus
[16:17] <jmft2> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/DQKLj3P5 output of dmesg, but from 5.1 sorry
[16:18] <lowin> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9knr2CTn3T/
[16:19] <n0cto> lowin: I copied .bashrc to the other users home directories and even after a system reboot the issue is still there
[16:20] <n0cto> ioria: sudo -i is for root right? I’m trying to perform actions logged in as other users on the system
[16:20] <ioria> lowin, you don't have the ibus-gtk packages
[16:22] <lowin> ioria, woah. It works. Awesome. thank you
[16:22] <ioria> lowin, ok, there is also ibus-gtk3
[16:22] <lowin> I've been forcing myself to not making mistakes for months
[16:23] <Sir_Cheer> I've never made a mistake in my life
[16:23] <lowin> Wonder how other gtk programs worked fine then?
[16:24] <tomreyn> jmft2: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115531
[16:24] <lowin> n0cto, maybe the default shell for the other user is something other than bash? try running bash after su and see if it works
[16:24] <Sir_Cheer> skrow ti fi ees dna us retfa hsab gninnur yrt ?hsab naht rehto gnihtemos si resu rehto eht rof llehs tluafed eht ebyam ,otc0n
[16:24] <lowin> n0cto, also you can use sudo for any user but the default is root
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> !english | Sir_Cheer
[16:32] <tomreyn> jmft2: what i gather from this bug report is mostly that linux 5.3 will likely introduce support for the audio codec used on your hardware. there are no 5.3 release candidates, yet, though. https://www.kernel.org/  will list it when that's the case, and !mainline kernel builds you can use on ubuntu will then be made available.
[16:33] <jmft2> tomreyn: That's good to know, thanks. It's a pity but I guess one'll just have to wait (or use Windows :-/ )
[16:33] <tomreyn> or buy the right hardware, yes
[16:41] <lowin> ioria, Now that I installed ibus-gtk and ibus-gtk3, ibus broke in many programs like firefox
[16:50] <n0cto> lowin: fyi you fixed my issue. The default shell for non-root users was set to /bin/sh.
[16:50] <n0cto> Thx!
[16:51] <lowin> you're welcome
[17:23] <atrus> first attempt at migrating to netplan, and I'm stuck on a python traceback. 18.04, here's what i'm seeing: https://pastebin.com/5hNEtegi
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> atrus: try in #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers
[17:25] <aiena> Does anyone have experience writing linux drivers on ubuntu. I think there is a kernel source package but how do I reference the headers in driver code?
[17:26] <aiena> or make cmake find them
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> aiena: we try to focus on ubuntu support issues here, compiling own kernels is not really supported, maybe try #kernel ?
[17:27] <aiena> lotuspsychje: hmm not kernels a kernel driver
[17:27] <aiena> e.g. say for a mouse or HID device so a .ko module against the ubuntu kernel itself
[17:28] <atrus> @lotuspsychje: thanks!
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> aiena: do you have a mouse that doesnt work on current kernels?
[17:28] <aiena> no I am plannig to write a device driver for a tablet I own which doesn't work yet on linux
[17:29] <aiena> my wacom works but this brand doesnt I have been able to get raw USB capture working
[17:29] <ioria> atrus, using a QETH device ?
[17:29] <aiena> I just want to know if I can use the sources from the ubuntu kernel to build some driver code?
[17:29] <aiena> i mean from the ubuntu distro kernel
[17:30] <aiena> e.g. right now my kernel is 5.0.0-20-generic so if I can find the linux/init.h for that
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> aiena: why dont you file a !bug if you found a device that doesnt work on current kernels?
[17:30] <wyseguy> Using 19.04 on a ThinkPad X260, trying to make the entire trackpad a left click. By default Ubuntu sections off the right side as a right click. Upon doing some research, I read that you can control this with synclient, but then found out that libinput is used now, but again this is missing on 19.04. How or what do i use to control this trackpad?
[17:32] <aiena> lotuspsychje:  part of the motivation is to learn more about driver programming.
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> aiena: maybe you can consider to !contribute for ubuntu then? talk to the devs at #ubuntu-devel ?
[17:33] <aiena> I'll try that
[17:36] <ph88> how can i get the development files for json-glib-tools on xenial ?
[17:37] <ioria> !info libjson-glib-dev xenial
[17:39] <fred1807> I am trying to manually create wifi profiles files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connection, but NetworkManager won't accept then!  WiFi only connect to files generated by some gui... What am I missing?
[17:41] <jeremy31> fred1807: Network Manager?
[17:42] <fred1807> yep
[17:43] <jeremy31> fred1807: there should be a networking icon in the notification panel that should get you to network settings
[17:43] <fred1807> great. What if I want to manually create profile files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, from the command line?
[17:43] <ioria> or use nm-connection-editor
[17:44] <ioria> nmcli
[18:13] <fred1807> great, what if I want to manually edit connection profiles with nano/vi, from the command line?
[18:17] <SimonNL> fred1807: nmtui  comes to my mind
[18:17] <tomreyn> fred1807: nmcli or nmtui should be able to help
[18:17] <fred1807> amazing, what if I want to directly edit the files with a terminal text editor?
[18:18] <EriC^^> fred1807: you can edit stuff with nano, i've done it with the hotspot stuff
[18:18] <tomreyn> i think system connections can just be edited with a text editor, yes
[18:18] <tomreyn> just not per user ones
[18:19] <tomreyn> you'll probably need to reload nm after editing those
[19:01] <ckopn> When I attach bluetooth headphones profile A2DP Sink doesn't turn on automatically. I set it manually. How to fix it?
[19:03] <die7> hi , I have issues to mount using /etc/fstab nfs share, mounting manually works...is there anything special what shoukld be  placed in fstab ..currently I have nfs auto,nofail,noatime,nolock,intr,tcp,actimeo=1800 0 0
[19:03] <die7> executing mount -av tells me : mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported
[19:04] <jeremy31> ckopn: File a bug report
[19:08] <tomreyn> die7: post the full line from fstab, discuss your ubuntu version and !flavour.
[19:10] <hwk> hello
[19:10] <hwk> i installed the grub boot on a usb device from which i boot my notebook
[19:11] <dmnur> die7: try to remove the `tcp` option.
[19:11] <hwk> but i get no such device, after selecting the OS menu entry
[19:11] <hwk> and it boots correctly
[19:12] <hwk> i get press any key notification and it continues to boot from the missing "uuid" hdd
[19:12] <die7> tomreyn: dmnur sorry ppl, to loong day it was damn mistake in ip
[19:12] <hwk> can i get rid of that no such devices notification?
[19:13] <hwk> the partition uuid is the one im trying to boot. installed grub from the running os on the "mssing" partition
[19:13] <hwk> i think grub generates the config this way
[19:15] <dmnur> hwk: hello. Can you please show your GRUB config? (Use paste.ubuntu.com to post it.)
[19:15] <hwk> right away.
[19:21] <hwk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DyV97ZVDJ3/
[19:21] <hwk> in the headin is the blkid output
[19:22] <hwk> sdb is the cardreader
[19:22] <hwk> and sda is a 2gb usb memory strick
[19:23] <hwk> the laptop doesnt know how to boot from sd card read unfortunatly
[19:23] <Sven_vB> is there some support channel for Mozilla Thunderbird on FreeNode?
[19:23] <hwk> using this schema to benefit from the card readers + card 100mbs speed -- regular hdd broke
[19:24] <hwk> and to better contain/hide the storage device
[19:24] <Budgii> Looking for assistance with moving a folder on SSH to my pi. Is this the appropriate place to ask?
[19:25] <hwk> anyone had experience with /tmp mount on as solid card memory/usb memory stick?
[19:25] <Budgii> I tried a few things with scp but got permission denied.
[19:25] <hwk> same principles aply as for ftp  permissions
[19:25] <Sven_vB> Budgii, if you use Ubuntu on at least one side, this channel should be appropriate. have you tried sshfs?
[19:26] <Sven_vB> Budgii, make sure your SSH user has write access to the destination
[19:26] <hwk> @dmnur: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DyV97ZVDJ3/ -- in case you missed it from the chat
[19:27] <Sven_vB> Budgii, scp should work as well, it's just a bit more tedious in my experience.
[19:28] <hwk> another question: can make grub install act like it was in a different drive when it generates the config ?
[19:29] <hwk> installed it with the command: grub-install --boot-directory=/media/root/214540b2-8ad0-4804-8182-769f1f25656f/boot /dev/sda
[19:29] <hwk> where 214540b2-8ad0-4804-8182-769f1f25656f is the drive uuid
[19:31] <hwk> make me think i need to use hd1 instead of hd0 in some places?
[19:31] <hwk> but the config heading specifies i shouldnt be doing so
[19:31] <Budgii> Sven_vB, I had changed the host name from 'pi' to 'fruit' and thought that was the username. I've got it copied over now. Thanks!
[19:32] <Thr0r> hwk: Maybe this will help you in some way? : https://askubuntu.com/questions/192621/grub-rescue-prompt-repair-grub
[19:33] <hwk> it bots properly, just being perfectionist and trying to find the cause for the notification :)
[19:34] <hwk> or better yet how to generate the config instead of manual edit
[19:34] <Thr0r> ok
[19:38] <ph88> thx ioria
[19:38] <ioria> ph88, no problem
[19:38] <hwk> well my helper seems to have timed out for some time? dmnur
[19:44] <Sven_vB> Budgii, nice! you're welcome :)
[19:44] <Budgii> Sven_vB, do you use weechat?
[19:44] <Sven_vB> Budgii, nope
[19:45] <Budgii> alright. :)
[19:47] <hwk> found the source of notificati in the mentru entry:   search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  7819a22a-9180-4786-959a-b859a3ed3ad4
[19:48] <hwk> the last agument
[19:48] <hwk> changed it with the uuid of the primary boot partition and it works :)
[19:48] <hwk> how to generate this?
[19:49] <hwk> or in the next 22 LTS ubuntu version
[19:49] <jeremy31> hwk, check /etc/fstab
[19:49] <hwk> managed to sort it out somehow.
[19:50] <hwk> now about experience mouting /tmp on usb memory stick
[19:50] <hwk> how fast will it burn?
[19:50] <hwk> it will become unusable as a whole drive partitioning can help avoid bad sectors ?
[19:53] <tomreyn> partitioning has no relation to bad sectors other than when the partition table is written to a bad sector
[19:54] <tomreyn> for hardware questions (# of expected write and read cycles on different media), /join ##hardware
[19:58] <hwk> tomreyn, didnt break any solid memory yet so have no clu if the entire drives becomes undetectable by the kernel if its memory gets bad sectors
[19:59] <hwk> but from what you are saying with the partitioning it should function with bad sectors and i can temp avoid them by scanning the whole drive and leave free space gaps where those bad sectors are located
[20:00] <hwk> "Crushed by /tmp " sounds quite good actually :)
[20:10] <dmnur_> hwk: add the following line to your /etc/default/grub: GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT=/dev/disk/by-uuid/214540b2-8ad0-4804-8182-769f1f25656f
[20:13] <dmnur_> hwk: or you can just mount that SD card partition to /boot. `grub-mkconfig` will set GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT appropriately by itself then.
[20:16] <hwk> dmnur_: thank you  for the info!!
[20:16] <dmnur_> hwk: well, you should mount it to /boot anyway, or else you'll end up using the same old kernel even after it gets updated. :)
[20:20] <hwk> its kali.... dont think im going to do any kernel updates, since its 64GB SDXHC card . just making a mini server from a friends old notebook + external hdd
[20:20] <tomreyn> !kali | hwk
[20:20] <hwk> its lxde
[20:21] <hwk> and thats your opinion
[20:21] <leftyfb> hwk: you said it's kali linux. Which we do not support here.
[20:22] <hwk> Well i support ubuntu
[20:22] <hwk> You should do as well
[20:23] <leftyfb> hwk: We do support Ubuntu. We do not support kali linux. Please seek support from #kali-linux or it's website
[20:23] <hwk> My question was not related to kali
[20:23] <hwk> And you need to get a beer
[20:24] <Thr0r> Why I have to go into Filemanager first and click on a partition where my data is located in order for my shortcuts to a directory on my desktop to work?
[20:24] <leftyfb> hwk: it doesn't matter what your question is related to. If it's not related to Ubuntu that you are running, it's not supported here. Period. Please go seek support from the appropriate sources.
[20:24] <hwk> Thr0r: possible that the parition mount takes place when you click on it
[20:25] <hwk> leftyfb: ....
[20:26] <Thr0r> hwk: Yes - but why is that?
[20:27] <hwk> No automount configured for those partitions
[20:27] <leftyfb> Thr0r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[20:28] <hwk> thanks again dmnur_. leaving aside any useless support suggestions from leftyfb :)
[20:29] <hwk> beerbucket chalange
[20:30] <Thr0r> Ok - I will read that - But I do not understand why it mounts in filemanager and not when I click the shortcut.. Very strange for an OS to act like that...
[20:31] <SimonNL> nope
[20:33] <Thr0r> ..but then again - I ask too much..
[21:56] <DanDare> Every time i boot ubuntu apport pops asking if I want to send a error report. It's all ok because everything is working like a charm. But I think it lacks a "see details" button. Chance is im just sending repeated reports everytime i hit "report problem".
[21:58] <jeremy31> DanDare: If you have a launchpad ID you can log in there and click the bugs link on your page
[22:05] <EriC^^> DanDare: you can disable it from showing up if you want
[22:09] <sappheiros> I am using Lubuntu 18.10 on a 32-bit computer. Now that 19.04 has been released, has 18.10 support ended, and hence security patches for 18.10 have ended, and thus the 'best practice' for safe computing is for me to downgrade back to 18.04 to continue receiving security patches?
[22:10] <sappheiros> (by 'downgrade' I mean copy documents to external USB drive and reinstall from USB stick replacing my current lubuntu installation)
[22:10] <Ben64> sappheiros: either that or go to 19.04
[22:10] <sappheiros> Ben64: i thought 19.04 made no guarantees for 32-bit or even required 64-bit. is that not so?
[22:10] <Ben64> oh i missed that bit
[22:11] <Ben64> i know ubuntu doesn't do 32bit anymore, you can see what lubuntu does
[22:11] <DanDare> EriC^^, yeah I know but never tried the config. Will try to find some config to send these automatically without the prompt (considering i cant check whats going to be send anyway)
[22:11] <sappheiros> people in #lubuntu urged me to buy a 64-bit computer rather than downgrade
[22:12] <Ben64> you should buy a 64bit computer though
[22:12] <DanDare> jeremy31, ok. But it relates to aproppos? I mean with the launchpad ID i can check the reports that were sent by me?
[22:12] <sappheiros> i will once i have the money after getting a new car ... :/ but Ben64 why use 64-bit if lubuntu 18.04 LTS works?
[22:12] <Ben64> because any 32bit cpu is garbage now
[22:13] <Ben64> 64bit has been around for 16 years, so that means your computer is older than that
[22:21] <Thr0r> https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts
[22:27] <Cheez> Ben64: neither of those statements are accurate. 64 bit cpus were pretty common in the 90s, and you can still buy new 32bit cpus now.
[22:39] <Ben64> Cheez: eh
[22:51] <sappheiros> just to be clear, have security patches for lubuntu 18.10 ended?
[22:53] <tomreyn> here's a list of end-of-life dates for ubuntu flavours such as lubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL
[22:53] <tomreyn> there's also #lubuntu for lubuntu, as you know.
[22:54] <sappheiros> thank you
[22:54] <Sven_vB> I set up SSH master connections and I like them quite much, except I have this problem that the mux process inherits the original stderr. so if I run "ssh pub-inet.proxy.lan uptime |& nl" and the previous mux happens to have timed out, nl will hang until killed or I run "ssh pub-inet.proxy.lan -O exit". any ideas how to avoid that?
[22:54] <sappheiros> tomreyn: that doesn't list 18.10
[22:55] <sappheiros> i'll try to find it ...
[22:55] <tomreyn> sappheiros: it states this, though: Releases which do not coincide with Ubuntu LTS releases are not listed here - these are always supported for 9 months since release and better documented on the official Releases page.
[22:55] <tomreyn> and part of this is a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:56] <sappheiros> tomreyn: july 2019 is end of support for 18.10 -- https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/
[22:56] <sappheiros> ah, thank you
[22:58] <tomreyn> based on an earlier discussion today, my understanding is that 18.10  is most likely supported until 18th of July  (independant of the !flavour).
[23:07] <sappheiros> thank you tomreyn
[23:40] <allquixotic> Ubuntu Builder was discontinued in 2014; Ubuntu Customization Kit installs but doesn't work and was discontinued in 2015; System Imager was discontinued in 2016; Reconstructor and Remastersys websites are gone. Is there an offiically supported method to create a custom live CD/USB hybrid .iso with added packages in 2019 on current distros?
[23:48] <chieta> is there any sandhur alternative for alarming on specific time or hours?
[23:58] <tomreyn> allquixotic: there's  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization  - I cannot comment on whether or not this will work.
[23:59] <Mr_Cyclops> Hello. What is the purpose of iio-sensor-proxy? Seems to have high CPU utilization