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[04:18] <xubuntu30w> hi
[04:20] <xubuntu30w> using 18.04 here and was wondering if there is any way to remove the desktop grid that prevent me from placing the icons anywhere I want.
[04:28] <appa> is there a reason I wouldn't be able to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 (and eventually up to 18.04?)
[04:28] <appa> trying to salvage this efika
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[05:14] <guiverc> appa, Xubuntu 12.04 LTS had 3 (flavor, 5 years is main Ubuntu) years of supported life; it's release-upgrade tools ceased working shortly after EOL due to location of repos changing b/c of EOL status  - you can re-install using something-else (no format) which is what I'd likely do, otherwise release-upgrade during supported life.
[05:14] <Unit193> !eolupgrades
[05:14] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[05:21] <appa> thanks I've got the EoL updates for precise, but the do-release-upgrade doesn't use EoL for Trusty (14.04)
[05:24] <appa> EOL  Upgrades seems to be about software upgrades not Ubuntu upgrades, or am I misinterpreting?
[05:27] <appa> https://superuser.com/questions/1287000/do-release-upgrade-not-using-old-releases-when-upgrading-from-ubuntu-10-04-to-12
[05:27] <appa> I'm trying to spoof the /etc/hosts to use old-release instead of archive.ubuntu
[05:27] <guiverc> 14.04 is EOL too
[05:28] <appa> yeah I'm working to pivot up to 18.04
[05:28] <appa> it's an old but loved system I'm trying to keep alive
[05:49] <guiverc> appa, fyi:  when you enter room it mentions https://xubuntu.org/releases for supported releases which are on-topic here, yes I've upgraded an eol release before but it was a pain thus I've avoided it since, so don't expect much help here sorry because it's off-topic to room
[05:51] <appa> fair enough, I'm learning as I go, figured there wasn't many places to ask, but I've gotten some goo ideas
[06:52] <pragomer> hi. what is the best way to assign specific programs to specific workspaces?
[06:59] <xubuntu55w> hello....newbie question. i am trying to download the iso file from the mirror websites. How to find out which iso file is the right one for my system please?
[06:59] <xubuntu55w> thsnks in advance
[07:01] <diogenes_> xubuntu55w, what do you mean the right for your system?
[07:03] <xubuntu55w> there are many iso files in the mirror webpage
[07:03] <diogenes_> and what are you pc specs? (cpu/gpu how old is your pc)
[07:06] <xubuntu55w> 3 years old, intel i7-6500, 64 bit, 8 GB RAM
[07:06] <diogenes_> then  xubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:07] <xubuntu55w> thank you sir. appreciate it. i am assuming 'amd64' has nothing to do with amd processor
[07:08] <diogenes_> of course not, it just means 64 bit system.
[07:08] <xubuntu55w> thanks again
[07:08] <diogenes_> it's called amd because amd was the first to implement this 64 bit technology and you're welcome.
[07:20] <Alabalistic> very strange problem, I left my laptop on for the night only with Hexchar running, and now all the 8 gigs of ram was full and some swap as well.
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[08:28] <xubuntu30w> what's the code for moving title window up and down in 'themerc' found in xfwm4 folder when editing a theme ?
[08:29] <xubuntu30w> there is *title_horizontal_offset=0*
[08:29] <xubuntu30w> tried *title_vertical_offset* and did not work
[08:32] <xubuntu30w> nevermind I found it
[13:59] <appa> CorvetteZR1: There is something different about this hardware and how it boots (or different in what I don't understand)  I've been trying to upgrade out of EOL 12.04 but I haven't figured that out yet.  I did notice it's trying to use armel not armhf.
[14:16] <CorvetteZR1> ah, i see.  did you ask someone in #ubuntu or #debian?  maybe someone there can suggest something
[14:22] <appa> I'll check it out, I wanted to say thanks before.  I'm learning a lot about the mechanics I never fully understood before
[14:49] <xubuntu24w> Hola alguien sabe de xubuntu?
[14:50] <diogenes_> !es
[14:50] <ubottu> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[14:52] <Kumool> xubuntu24w: si
[14:52] <CorvetteZR1> da
[14:52] <Kumool> xubuntu24w: cual es tu pregunta?
[14:52] <Kumool> hello diogenes_!
[14:53] <diogenes_> hi Kumool
[14:54] <xubuntu24w> Hola!!   Trate hace poco mas de un mes de pasar de 18:10 y 19:04, y luego de terminar no booteo
[14:54] <Kumool> joins in the nick of time to help xubuntu24w, even if its just redirection, like some sort of superhero
[14:54] <xubuntu24w> Tuve que reintalar el 19:04 y actualizar al 19:10 y ahi me quede
[14:54] <xubuntu24w> Nunca me había pasado eso con una dist ubuntu
[14:55] <xubuntu24w> Ahora no me atrevó a reintentralo
[14:55] <Kumool> xubuntu24w: primero, entra a #ubuntu-es, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[14:56] <Kumool> xubuntu24w: hay mas gente española ahi, si acaso no te pueda ayudar, alguien mas te ayuda
[14:56] <xubuntu24w> Gracias
[14:59] <Kumool> xubuntu24w: por el momento, no e intentado dar el upgrade a 19.04, pero si mantienes la particion de /home separada, puedes reinstalar xubuntu como si nada
[14:59] <Kumool> tendras que reinstalarlo todo, pero no debes temerle a hacer reinstalaciones
[14:59] <Kumool> xubuntu24w: porque siempre tendras tus datos :)
[15:53] <ScissorLiftFox> I'm in 18.04.2lt i386 right now, trying to burn an iso with xfburn
[15:53] <Guest45> Hi just demonstrating irc for a video don't mind me
[15:54] <ScissorLiftFox> but it always returned the error "Failure: Cannot reserve track of 1475260416 bytes" and ejects the media