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wxlpresent for you @The_LoudSpeaker https://pictshare.net/yolzyo.png00:38
tsimonq2wxl: Do you want to do the EOL announcement for 18.10?00:47
tsimonq2I know you were looking forward to writing a LXQt > LXDE announcement.00:47
tsimonq2Now's your chance, because as of July 18th, we only support 18.04 and 19.04.00:47
wxlwell i mean it could come at any time i guess00:49
tsimonq2That's what I mean.00:49
tsimonq2wxl: I'm asking if you want to write it or if you want me to.00:50
tsimonq2Either is fine, I just need to know if you're not going to.00:50
wxli'll do the lxqt/lxde thing if you wanna do the eol announcement00:51
tsimonq2What I'm saying is, we should combine it into one announcement which basically says "as of July 18th, the only two releases we support are 18.04 and 19.04. You should really really use LXQt, in fact, we have a CI PPA for NON-PRODUCTION use."00:52
tsimonq2That would be a tl;dr00:52
tsimonq2Whoever writes it would go into detail as to why LXQt is better.00:52
tsimonq2I know you can list quite a few reasons off the top of your head. I would need to do some research.00:53
tsimonq2That's why I'm asking if you want to JFDI the announcement. :)00:53
tsimonq2*JFD I guess :P00:53
wxli just don't see the two as being so intracately linked. i wouldn't put them together00:53
tsimonq2I understand they aren't intricately linked, but it'd be cool to say "oh by the way, here's why you should really just install 19.04 if you had to pick"00:54
tsimonq2If we don't do the announcements together, how far apart should we space them?00:56
wxllike i said, it could come at any time. it doesn't really matter00:56
wxlthe issue is as relevant now as it will be after00:56
wxlit's relevant until 18.04 doesn't exist00:57
tsimonq2I look at it like this, too: people are going to read the EOL announcement anyway.00:57
tsimonq2If we don't roll it into the EOL announcement, we really should roll it into the 19.10 announcement.00:57
tsimonq2I don't know if it'd work to have it be its own thing.00:58
wxlthat makes a little more sense00:58
tsimonq2Let's go with that, then.00:58
wxlit totally would work to be on its own00:58
wxljust like pcman's original blog post00:58
tsimonq2We aren't announcing anything new, though.00:59
wxlit doesn't matter01:00
wxlto a lot of people it is new01:00
wxlit's nothing new that to make super key shortcuts in openbox work in 19.04, you need to undefine the super key shortcut for the menu in lxqt-globalkeys. but tons of people still ask about it01:00
tsimonq2Fair.01:01
wxl@tsimonq2: didn't you upload the libfm-qt SRU?01:16
tsimonq2I did.01:17
tsimonq2It hasn't been accepted yet, though.01:17
tsimonq2So no tag.01:17
wxli don't see it in proposed though01:18
wxlhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/+publishinghistory01:18
wxldid you only land it in git and not upload it to the archive?01:18
wxland actually for that matter i don't see anything in git https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/01:19
wxloh i guess there's this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/browse/ubuntu%252Fdisco/01:33
wxlyou just didn't upload it to the archive it seems01:34
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl, @tsimonq2 just installed the latest update on eoan, nm-tray now use nm-conection-editor01:52
lubot<HMollerCl> if you upgrade your system you can check01:52
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [wxl, @tsimonq2 just installed the latest update on eoan, nm-tray now use nm-cone …], Sweeet01:52
lubot<tsimonq2> Screenshot?01:53
lubot<HMollerCl> (Photo, 1280x800) https://i.imgur.com/kC5hMJb.jpg01:54
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], NICE01:54
wxl@tsimonq2: what about libfm-qt aas aforementioned?02:03
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: The SRU team has to accept it before it shows up in disco-proposed02:10
lubot<tsimonq2> It uploaded just fine, it's just in the queue02:10
wxlweird02:11
lubot<tsimonq2> That's procedure :)02:12
wxlugh correct me if i'm wrong but ~lubuntu-packaging isn't subscribed to pcmanfm-qt or libfm-qt?02:20
lubot<tsimonq2> That's a good question02:21
wxldoes anyone want a super annoying but super helpful job? pleeez02:26
lubot<tsimonq2> Which?02:27
wxlmake sure we're subscribed to all of our packages :/02:27
wxlcompare https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+packagebugs or https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+structural-subscriptions with https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/disco/lubuntu02:29
wxli need a list of all the packages in the packageset that are not subscribed to02:34
wxlso i can subscribe them all02:34
wxlthe two launchpad links SHOULD be the same02:34
lubot<DarinMiller> wxl, did you want the delta beteen the 2 lists?03:17
lubot<DarinMiller> i.e. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FgRfZ63s8J/03:18
wxl@DarinMiller that would be great thanks. might be a bit to parse through it all but that would be excellent. to make things easier i want to make sure all of the packages in the packagelist are subscribed to. i don't care if there are extra subscriptions that much03:18
lubot<DarinMiller> The link above lists the "uncommon" packages...03:20
wxli guess the question is which direction03:23
lubot<DarinMiller> Ok, here is the other direction: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q3s9z5vYXX/03:24
wxloh and that packageset link should use eoan and not disco03:24
wxlTHAT's the one i'm looking for03:24
wxlwhat the smurfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff i swear i fixed lubuntu-meta03:24
wxlthanks Darin :)03:24
lubot<DarinMiller> np :)03:24
lubot<DarinMiller> Used Libre Calc and vlookup....03:25
wxlspeaking of things that drive me crazy https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-18-04-pcmanfm-1-2-5-pdf-thumbnail-previews/16103:27
lubot<DarinMiller> bug or PEBKAC?03:29
lubot<DarinMiller> nm, I just saw your repsonse...03:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4c8ddbc0be32: Add go to last tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4c8ddbc0be3203:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a7092543639: Add First tab to featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a709254363903:48
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> present for you @The_LoudSpeaker https://pictshare.net/yolzyo.png], Thanks!04:28
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], Noiiice!!04:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl I see the small light bulb in in system tray in your system. Is it redshift?04:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Afaik, we don't have any night light filter present in lubuntu by default right? I would like to volunteer to port redshift-gtk to qt.04:37
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/PWn0BSk.jpg06:50
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [<reply to image>], @HMollerCl  I guess the black border shouldn't be there. correct me if I am wrong.06:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#136410:01
lubot<aptghetto> @tsimonq2 @teward001 ^^^^10:02
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl I see the small light bulb in in system tray in your system. Is it re …], Yes, redshift. It would be nice if you port it. I can help you in something but is mostly signals and slots10:40
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl  I guess the black border shouldn't be there. correct me if I am wron …], Yes, shouldn't be there, that's strange10:40
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Yes, redshift. It would be nice if you port it. I can help you in something but …], I will start on it once I finish the current tasks. Also, I haven't ported anything earlier. I will definitely need your help.10:51
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [I will start on it once I finish the current tasks. Also, I haven't ported anyth …], Np11:44
lubot<HMollerCl> https://cython.org/ I wonder If wec ould use this to convert applet.py (printer applet) to c++ to free some resources14:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL236e2f680fae: Add scrollwheel to scroll in qterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL236e2f680fae15:11
lubot<HMollerCl> @lynorian since in 19.10 the conection editor will be changed, we need to modify the manual.15:16
lynorian@hmollerCl ack15:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL60b0fb5a42b6: Add go to bottom] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL60b0fb5a42b615:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb955fb16c7b2: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb955fb16c7b215:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL58b6829625ce: Add show tab bar to qterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL58b6829625ce15:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbbaa2579158c: Add chaing side of such tab layout] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbbaa2579158c16:13
lubot<teward001> @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 @teward001 ^^^^], saw your comment, but for the most part this'd need fixes elsewhere.16:40
wxlthis is insanity. not sure if anyone else has insight https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-18-04-pcmanfm-1-2-5-pdf-thumbnail-previews/16116:58
wxl@tsimonq2: correct me if i'm wrong but it looks like lxqt-globalkeys is using a hardcoded location for xdg dirs https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/search?q=xdg&unscoped_q=xdg19:44
lubot<HMollerCl> configFiles.push_back(QStringLiteral("/etc/xdg/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf"));20:04
wxlyeah that seems hardcoded to me, no?20:05
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, but inside an if20:13
lubot<HMollerCl> is there an else?20:13
lubot<tsimonq2> It should really read the env variable20:27
lubot<HMollerCl> The way I see it it only does that if there is no ".config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf"20:35
lubot<HMollerCl> it's a fallback20:35
lubot<HMollerCl> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/blob/e50c4d40a3781f77e66d965ca4dc381b0bb79370/daemon/main.cpp#L23820:35
wxl@HMollerCl that test for configFiles.empty() is just a check to see whether or not anything was passed in the command line. see 156-8 and 6821:30
lubot<HMollerCl> what does .push_back() does? becasue after the if it uses it again. if it's an assignment it will be overrided. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/blob/e50c4d40a3781f77e66d965ca4dc381b0bb79370/daemon/main.cpp#L24221:42
lubot<HMollerCl> aaa it loads the xdg and then the ~ file21:44
lubot<HMollerCl> you can ask agaida...21:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hey! wxl: about updating D18, I am going on a trek tomorrow morning so I will be busy for the weekend but I will try to do it as soon as possible.  … Also, can you send another icon of the lubuntu logo? The one you sent yesterday, is a bit large. I tried resizing it to 200x200 pixels but the blue circle around the hummingbird 21:44
lubotis getting out of space. A smaller icon should do I guess. The currently used icon from menu button is 350*350. … Also, If you have other icons please send. I would like to try them all.21:44
wxl@HMollerCl https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qlist.html#push_back21:45
wxltl;dr it appends21:45
wxlbut that's only because you can keep calling config files on the command line and it will append to the list21:45
wxlso it loads the hardcoded xdg rather than traversing the actual paths specified in the xdg variables21:45
lubot<HMollerCl> yup21:46
lubot<HMollerCl> but is the same path we use21:46
wxli was searching for where the configFiles class was defined until i saw it was a QStringList21:47
lubot<HMollerCl> but, it only loads if ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf doesn't exist21:48
lubot<HMollerCl> L24021:48
wxl@HMollerCl according to https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/xdg/ (i just restored this), there's also /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu to consider21:50
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, but we don't use if for sortcuts21:51
wxlwell and /usr/share/Lubuntu it seems21:51
TJ-that code doesn't seem to make sense; it adds DEFAULT_CONFIG regardless of whether it exists, but only adds the system config if the user config doesn't exist. Why would it add a non-existant file?21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> @TJ- [<TJ-> that code doesn't seem to make sense; it adds DEFAULT_CONFIG regardless of …], it laks an else IMHO21:52
TJ-@HMollerCl I'm not sure of that; it's using a stack so I read it as putting the system-wide config first followed by the user config. I'd expect that to mean that user config options would therefore over-ride system-wide options when read21:55
wxl^ according to docs, that's the intention21:55
TJ-glad to see I'm not getting rusty :)21:56
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker what size icon do you want/21:57
lubot<HMollerCl> but he puts thes system wide if the unser one doesn't exist. L:24021:57
TJ-@HMollerCl agreed; it 'feels' like the intent of the code is one thing, but the implementation is doing something else. I wonder if that is the result of previous patches in that area that broke an implied 'else'21:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker what size icon do you want/], Ummm. What size was earlier one? Analogically, if earlier one was 40 then I would like a 34 now. Or 36. I will have to try them.21:58
TJ-@HMolloerCl might be worth checking the commit message that covers those lines21:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: by other icons, I mean if there are ones without the blue circle.22:02
wxloh22:02
wxlthe blue circle is the thing that makes our logo22:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Ohh. Then just send a smaller sized one.22:03
wxl40²22:03
wxl?22:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, why don't we use it on the menu button?22:04
wxlwe do22:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> 40²], That would be too small.22:04
wxlso what size?22:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> we do], The one I attached in current theme is the one we use na? I had picked it up then I right clicked the menu button and change the icon. I found it in that folder22:07
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker look at this for example https://forum.lxqt.org/t/problem-with-scripts/776/222:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> so what size?], Maybe 120*120 pixels.22:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker look at this for example https://forum.lxqt.org/t/problem-with- …], Sure, tomorrow morning. Now good bye ya all.22:08
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker https://pictshare.net/8gvuw9.png22:18
TJ-shouldn't graphics be all SVG ?22:19

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