[00:00] <tomreyn> Mr_Cyclops: you can run "apt show PACKAGENAME" to get information on a given packane named PACKAGENAME
[00:01] <leo_f> whoami
[00:03] <allquixotic> tomreyn: I just found https://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/create-custom-live-cd-image-cubic-ubuntu/ -- "Cubic" looks to be current at least as of 18.04, and it's working well so far; here's hoping it'll boot
[00:03] <leo_f> quit
[00:04] <abdulkarim> hey guys
[00:06] <abdulkarim> i need help ubuntu is taking me to grub menu en they telling me to download b43 something
[00:06] <tomreyn> allquixotic: i can't comment on it, have seen it before but it's not supported here.
[00:07] <tomreyn> !details | abdulkarim
[00:08] <Person341> I just partitioned my /dev/sda2 drive with gdisk and now when I boot it goes straight to grub terminal
[00:09] <Mr_Cyclops> tomreyn, tx
[00:10] <tomreyn> Person341: /dev/sda2 would be a partition, not a drive
[00:11] <tomreyn> maybe you wrote a new partition table into a partition, thus overwriting some of the data previously stored in this partition?
[00:12] <tomreyn> but that's just guessing, need more details-
[00:24] <allquixotic> tomreyn: I'm aware that Cubic isn't supported here, but the good news is it actually works -- generates a successful Live hybrid ISO that can be `dd`ed to a USB stick, with custom packages! I think the Wiki article you linked is several years out of date and way harder to use. Might want to tell folks in the future to try Cubic if they want a GUI but say it isn't supported here. Anyway, thanks.
[00:27] <tomreyn> allquixotic: thanks for reporting back. i'll try to remember about cubic. we could discuss this more in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.
[01:29] <kecthup> .
[01:29] <LinuxGuy2020> I'm looking for a way to store Steam backups instead of using the slow built in backup in the steam client. I know that simply copying the folders of the installs is the fastest but I would like to have a single file for each game. Tar is way too slow when opening, ISO has a filesize limit. I dont care about compression at all. Any other formats that might fit the bill?
[01:30] <kecthup> how can I install kubuntu on a second drive inside of windows 10
[01:30] <kecthup> a stupid fucking game just BSOD'd  windows FUCKING 10
[01:32] <kecthup> and without overwriting the windows bootloader
[01:37] <kekchup> jesus are you all fucking in a coma or something
[01:38] <tonyt> it is a holiday in the USA
[01:38] <tonyt> some people also actually have lives and dont spent all their time on irc lol
[01:38] <kekchup> why dont they just make every day a holiday
[01:38] <kekchup> and be done with it
[01:39] <kekchup> IRC also has a command called /part
[01:41] <ryuo> !language | kekchup
[01:41] <kekchup> I dont care about religion son
[01:41] <pepee> hey, can someone tell me what the hell is canonical trying to do with ubuntu? why are they trying to impose snap at all costs?
[01:42] <kekchup> im 28 and will use whatever words I want. I have not insulted anyone here
[01:42] <pepee> also, do ubuntu devs don't even care about the users anymore? why do updates keep overwriting my system stuff and not even leaving backups?
[01:43] <kekchup> how can I download the ISO
[01:43] <kekchup> what I have here is some folders
[01:43] <kekchup> hmm
[01:43] <kekchup> oh wait it did
[01:43] <kekchup> windows just mounted it
[01:44] <kekchup> ok ok
[01:45] <kekchup> but I still dont see an exe to click to install
[01:54] <guiverc> kekchup, after seeing your language I stopped reading what you wrote.. it may be the same with others (didn't your Mum tell you get more with honey, not vinegar)
[01:54] <kekchup> yeah then I fucking stabbed her to death
[02:05] <ec0> pepee, have you considered articulating any problems you've had with Ubuntu into a bug report against the relevant packages, so the developers are aware of them?
[02:07] <pepee> ec0, have you thought that I'm not criticizing any specific packages, but rather, the direction canonical is trying to give ubuntu?
[02:08] <ec0> Ubuntu is a community project
[02:08] <pepee> AFAIU, canonical is a private company
[02:08] <ec0> Canonical funds a lot of the infrastructure behind Ubuntu, and pays a bunch of the developers
[02:09] <ec0> You don't need to work for Canonical to contribute to Ubuntu however
[02:09] <pepee> and I don't think users asked for, say, snap, or to stop supporting 32b applications, or to stop using unity...
[02:09] <ec0> lol
[02:09] <ec0> Unity is open source, you can pick it up as a side project if you want
[02:09] <ec0> apt remote snapd
[02:09] <ec0> *remove
[02:10] <pepee> I mean, I don't care about unity, but, say, why not use KDE?
[02:10] <ec0> like, kubuntu say?
[02:10] <pepee> yep
[02:10] <ec0> I think if you need specific help with something, there's a ton of people here happy to help
[02:12] <pepee> you know snap will become the default package manager in the future, right?
[02:12] <pepee> ec0, you don't need to defend stupid decisions like that just because you like ubuntu
[02:12] <ryuo> and where did you read that?
[02:12] <pepee> also, kubuntu is NOT kubuntu, which is why I said unity could have been replaced by KDE
[02:12] <pepee> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/package-management-default-snap
[02:12] <pepee> err, *kubuntu is NOT ubuntu
[02:14] <ryuo> it sounds like a proposal... that doesn't mean it'll be implemented.
[02:14] <pi123> is there any reason to prefer installing ubuntu 19 over 18.04?
[02:14] <ec0> I don't think they're stupid decisions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:14] <ec0> pi123, 18.04 will get support for longer
[02:14] <ec0> being an LTS
[02:15] <pi123> is that good or bad?
[02:15] <pi123> i'm just a humble user
[02:15] <ryuo> pi123: LTS if you have no reason to have major upgrades twice a year.
[02:15] <ec0> so for a server system or similar where upgrading the OS might be disruptive, you may consider using the LTS
[02:15] <ryuo> pi123: that's how i look at it.
[02:17] <pi123> ok
[02:17] <ryuo> pepee: though really, this is nothing new. they've been pushing ubuntu specific software for ages. most of the time it ends up being abandoned. upstart, mir, unity to name a few.
[02:17] <pi123> also are any of the kubuntu, lubuntu, XYZbuntu things officially ubuntu or no?
[02:18] <ryuo> pi123: only if it's an official flavor. anything else are 3rd party derivatives (Mint, etc).
[02:18] <pepee> I mean, judging by how the system suggests using snap instead of apt...
[02:18] <pepee> also, this seems to be a really old idea http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[02:19] <ryuo> pepee: i only saw a proposal from one person. it doesn't mean they'll actually do it. notice it hasn't been approved and appears to have been dormant for the last 6 months.
[02:19] <pepee> pi123, what I meant is, ubuntu could use KDE as default DE instead of GNOME
[02:20] <ryuo> though i guess a few ubuntu projects have survived (apparmor)
[02:20] <pi123> wikipedia says Kubuntu is an officially sponsored by Canonical ubuntu
[02:21] <pepee> it is, after some drama canonical had with the leader of the kubuntu project
[02:22] <pepee> (the one that left some years ago)
[02:25] <Thr0r> I belive these are the offical Ubuntu flavors: https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[02:25] <gimmel> Hi guys, just trying to check if I'm making an error or not. I'm trying to follow the installation guide here (https://www.home-assistant.io/components/snips/). I've added the source list, updated through apt-get update, but the line "sudo apt-get install -y snips-platform-voice" says there's no package available. Should I have changed anything in the third step for Ubuntu?
[02:32] <tomreyn> gimmel: which ubuntu release are you running?
[02:34] <gimmel> tomreyn: 19.04
[02:39] <tomreyn> i don't see any indication that they provide Ubuntu packages
[02:40] <gimmel> tomreyn: indication in the tutorial? Or have you checked elsewhere?
[02:41] <tomreyn> both
[02:44] <tomreyn> gimmel: the tuorial you pointed to seems to target raspian.
[02:47] <gimmel> tomreyn: The snips developers have this page -> https://docs.snips.ai/articles/other-platforms/linux-amd64. The intro paragraph says Ubuntu 16 and up, but then the source list added seems debian specific. Would I need to change the source that is added in step 3?
[02:51] <tomreyn> gimmel: i suggest you get help from them, since this is outside the scope of what we support here
[02:51] <tomreyn> if you have questions about ubuntu itself, or even about adding thrid party apt repositories in general, we can help
[03:14] <gimmel> tomreyn: Thanks, I'm aware of the scope of this channel. I'm simply trying to confirm I'm applying their instructions for Ubuntu correctly.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> props for courtesy!
[03:33] <JonHanDin> Hello Ubunuts, Just a quick question... I like my bash scripts (they just make life easier);  one i cant get my head around... I'm forever using Files to explore some sftp and samba share through the UI... Am i just being lazy or is there a way to call a windows from a tmerinal commmand? Many thanks
[03:58] <p0a> hello
[03:58] <p0a> how can I use the latest version of emacs?
[03:58] <p0a> I thought about downloading the dependencies and compiling it instead
[04:34] <mithrison> hi
[04:34] <mithrison> 'm having problem running snap and snapcraft on ubuntu 18 server on raspberry pi.. details and logs --> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/multipass-on-raspberry-pi-3b/12162/2
[05:29] <mdemo> Apparently the OVA from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ isn't meant to be used on local VirtualBox without modification?
[07:54] <Snorghma> as anyone here install ubuntu on an asus rog gu501gm -
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Snorghma: best to ask your specific issue, where are you stuck exactly?
[07:58] <Snorghma> oh right, so I'm having a few issues.  I can rarely get the installer to come up.  I was able to get ubuntu installed once but b/c of the graphics chip the os crashes when it boots.  I want to reinstall ubuntu with the driver preloaded but I don't know how to do that and I am having issue getting the installer to load.  When I get the installer the `try kubuntu` option crashes.
[07:59] <Snorghma> I've read that I have use `acpi=off` and `nouveau.modeset=0` in grub to be able to boot
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> Snorghma: what kind of graphics card chipset do you have there?
[07:59] <Snorghma> the chipset is geforce gtx 1060
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> Snorghma: ah, those need a !nomodeset to get in, then reccomended after the ubuntu graphics ppa to install a newer driver
[08:00] <Snorghma> I can boot into windows fine but I'd like to purge windows
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | Snorghma
[08:00] <Snorghma> ok cool
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> Snorghma: if you dualboot, some uefi settings can also block your hardware/graphics
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> Snorghma: that would show in your dmesg logs, if kernel is locked due to uefi or not
[08:02] <Snorghma> so if I'm seeing things like `stdin:  Invalid argument` in verbose mode when booting before hitting busybox.... what does this mean
[08:02] <Snorghma> I don't want to have a duel boot but so far I've only been able to get windows on this thing
[08:03] <Snorghma> is there anyway to easily boot into bash?
[08:04] <Snorghma> I should clarify that I've been seeing that `stdin` message when trying to boot my bootable usb iso of kubuntu
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> Snorghma: is that kubuntu 18.04?
[08:06] <Snorghma> dingo
[08:06] <Snorghma> 19.04
[08:06] <Snorghma> i've been considering making a custom iso but i really don't want to as i have no idea how
[08:07] <OerHeks> tons of howto's, asus rog gu501gm
[08:08] <Snorghma> yea I've been trying to follow https://medium.com/@bakytn/install-configure-linux-ubuntu-18-10-on-asus-gu501gm-783d00c19b5b but it hasn't worked well for me
[08:09] <OerHeks> no, you need to disable nouveau, to get nvidia working
[08:09] <OerHeks> nouveau.modeset=0
[08:09] <OerHeks> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/8w1264/getting_ubuntu_to_work_on_a_gaming_laptop/
[08:09] <Snorghma> yea i did that
[08:10] <Snorghma> I can't get the installer to boot atm, I'm getting `stdin:  Invalid argument` over and over before it hits busybox
[08:10] <OerHeks> check the iso?
[08:10] <Snorghma> I guess remake the bootable?
[08:11] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[08:11] <Snorghma> ok thanks I'll check it
[08:12] <jojero> Hello, I just realize that my dvdrw is not working. Please help me, I cant see anything in nautilus
[08:14] <jojero> https://pastebin.com/qrGJ2YXL
[08:14] <jojero> please
[08:15] <jojero> oh man
[08:15] <jojero> its fixed
[08:15] <jojero> lmfao I just put my charger plug, I really dont know what happened thank God I didnt do anything in the process like mounting lols
[08:16] <jojero> see yah!
[08:41] <hortiel> hi
[08:41] <hortiel> In practice, settable tab stops were rather quickly replaced with fixed tab stops, de facto standardized at every multiple of 8 characters horizontally, and every 6 lines vertically.
[08:41] <hortiel> what is 6 lines veritically meaning in \v vertical tabs ?? unable to understand \v
[08:42] <vlt> hortiel: Source?
[08:43] <hortiel> wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_key#Tab_characters
[08:44] <hortiel> which channel is there to ask such question about these strange control characters. ...
[08:44] <hortiel> I can understand horizontal tables, but how could a table be vertical.
[08:45] <OerHeks> vertical tabs would be lines? this is not on ubuntu, ctrl k
[08:46] <hortiel> OerHeks: yes but wikipedia says 6 lines down, but \v gives only one line down
[08:50] <H0P> hey guys i got problem with WSL ,nmap doesn't work.it can't find wifi0
[08:53] <thsnr> H0P: check out https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/1349
[08:57] <OerHeks> alias nmap=nmap.exe   grinn
[08:57] <OerHeks> !wsl
[09:00] <H0P> lsusb doesn't work on WSL!!!
[09:00] <OerHeks> interesting ..
[09:00] <OerHeks> H0P, try in #ubuntu-on-windows , wsl is not supported here
[09:30] <Mudchains> Hello all. Our ubuntu servers has joined Active Directory by this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html#sssd-ad-join . Instead of Administrator i used a other account. But what if change the password of that account? Will the kerberos tickets still work?
[09:33] <funabashi> hi general linux quetion, does linux has anythng like windows RDP to remote a pc?
[09:36] <ducasse> !vnc | funabashi
[09:36] <Mudchains> funabashi yes
[09:38] <funabashi> X-forwarding it called
[09:41] <vlt> funabashi: There's also rdesktop or xfreerdp to connect to RDP servers and xrdp to provide one. We actually use this from Ubuntu client to Ubuntu desktop server after several software products (LibreOffice or Firefox) became less and less usable over "remote X" protocols.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett
[09:51] <cfhowlett> yowza^3 lotuspsychje
[10:18] <vlt> Hello. I have several printers of the same model. The CUPS driver provided by the manufacturer seems to use a file /opt/brother/Printers/mfcl8690cdw/inf/brmfcl8690cdwrc for default values like "BRMonoColor=Mono" in a "[mfcl8690cdw]" config section. Any idea how I can specify the defaults I need for my various printers with their CUPS names?
[11:08] <ramsub07> Hi, I am trying to install a docker image with "software-properties-common". Since I am installing from the dockerfile, I am unable to press "Y" for yes at the time of installation and hence the installation aborts every time. How do I mitigate this?
[11:18] <OerHeks> installing from the dockerfile ??
[11:20] <thsnr> ramsub07: you can use apt-get with --yes, which will answer "yes" to all prompts
[11:21] <OerHeks> i think he has an other issue than just installing from apt..
[11:25] <hortiel> hi
[11:25] <hortiel> Why does ubuntu install itself on DELL but not arch !
[11:25] <cfhowlett> hortiel, you'd have to ask arch.  this channel is for UBUNTU support.  please stay on topic.
[11:25] <hortiel> ubuntu figured something out, as in bios I see ubuntu name... not why would dell recognize ubuntu OSS?S how
[11:26] <hortiel> no, it's ubuntu question- what did internally ubuntu do... that Dell can recognize it
[11:26] <cfhowlett> so ubuntu installed correctly??
[11:27] <hortiel> yes, but why
[11:27] <hortiel> do you use dell?
[11:27] <hortiel> dell optiplex
[11:30] <cfhowlett> because you told it to.
[11:31] <OerHeks> if this is an UEFI thingy, yes, the ubuntu brand is in there.
[11:31] <hans_> got this far then the system froze, it still responds to pings but it doesn't respond on ssh and it doesn't respond on the local terminal, https://i.imgur.com/3LAcTVW.png
[11:32] <hans_> think i should give it some mroe time or should i try restarting it?
[11:33] <hans_> (18.04 server edition)
[11:33] <OerHeks> hans_, just wait, those calculations can take minutes
[11:33] <hans_> oh now something hapepned, i got https://i.imgur.com/BtlH34p.png
[11:33] <hortiel> does ubuntu use mbr on bios legacy and gpt on uefi ? the default installer I mean...
[11:34] <OerHeks> hortiel, with UEFI, ubuntu uses GPT
[11:34] <OerHeks> if not, you did not boot in uefi mode :-D
[11:36] <hortiel> so if I booted in bios and then installed ubuntu it uses MBR? can I make ubuntu use GPT in legacy bios?
[11:37] <hans_> OerHeks, maybe, but it is running on a very strong 16-core 2.3->3.7 turbo Xeon Gold CPU
[11:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:39] <jeremy31> hortiel: to use GPT with BIOS boot, you need a special partition, do a search to find the specifics
[11:46] <neure> hi
[11:46] <neure> does ubuntu come with dynamic version of asan library?
[11:48] <OerHeks> !find libasan
[11:48] <hans_> why is /usr/bin/unatteded-upgrade still running AFTER running `sudo apt remove --purge unattended-upgrade`  ?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> cron?
[11:49] <hans_> apt.systemd.daily, i guess
[11:49] <OerHeks> cron indeed, reboot to stop the unattended madness :-P
[12:17] <talin> hello. i am running 18.04 and connecting to it via xrdp. how can i change the default window manager?
[13:04] <vlt> talin: Have a look at /etc/xrdp/sesman.ini
[13:10] <Ryvius> Hello, has Mesa been updated to 19 today? My system wants to update to it, but I have bad experience with it
[13:10] <Ryvius> In ubuntu-bionic--main
[13:14] <paul1us> Hello, I am looking for help.  I restarted my computer and found myself in the login loop. I suspect that this is due to me changing the graphics drivers. I created a new .Xauthorities file but after a restart nothing changed
[13:16] <talin> vlt: thank you :)
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> !info mesa
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> Ryvius: You will have to be more specific about the package information. I don't know what Mesa is
[13:34] <Ryvius> pragmaticenigma: It's the open source GPU drivers for AMD and Intel
[13:34] <Ryvius> They have lots of packages, https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package_metas/list?name=mesa
[13:36] <OerHeks> Ryvius, LTS versions hardly get such update, i think you want 19.10 for the latest MESA?
[13:37] <paul1us> is there someone who could help me with my login loop problem?
[13:38] <Ryvius> OerHeks: Yeah that's why I'm puzzled that bionic has seemingly been updated to Mesa 19
[13:39] <OerHeks> oh, wait, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/19.0.2-1ubuntu1.1~18.04.1
[13:39] <Ryvius> So I'm wondering if anyone knows why
[13:39] <Ryvius> As it ran like shit for me
[13:39] <OerHeks> there must have been a SRU request
[13:39] <OerHeks> !sru
[13:41] <Ryvius> Alright, guess I can't avoid it forever. Thanks
[13:58] <shonhadow> Need help with sound settings?
[14:00] <tomreyn> no, thanks, works here.
[14:00] <tomreyn> oh you mean *you*'re* looking for help?
[14:01] <shonhadow> https://imgur.com/bQzsraA
[14:02] <shonhadow> volume button and bar is disabled
[14:03] <tomreyn> run   /usr/share/alsa-base/alsa-info.sh    in a temrinal and follow its instructions
[14:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Can anybody offer some help with the finch messenger/libpurple frontend, or know a more appropriate channel to ask?
[14:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> I can't seem to figure out how to interact with check boxes, and it isn't catching the alt+[key] based shortcuts
[14:06] <shonhadow> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fTHhHKJzT7/
[14:08] <tomreyn> shonhadow: run this:   cd; wget https://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[14:08] <tomreyn> shonhadow: this downloads the newer version of the alsa-info script, a shell script which gatheres some system information, and either stores this info in a file on your computer or uploads it, depending on your choice
[14:09] <tomreyn> shonhadow: i guess uploading is fine, we'd need to see it anyways.
[14:09] <pragmaticenigma> Wayward_Vagabond: Please provide the channel with the version and flavor of Ubuntu that you are running. A lot of terminal emulators intercept the shortcut keys
[14:09] <Wayward_Vagabond> xubuntu 18.04lts, and irssi uses the shame shortcuts without issue
[14:10] <Wayward_Vagabond> Finch's help page doesn't seem to explain much
[14:11] <bomb> should i install Chromium from snap or apt?
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> bomb: the users choice
[14:12] <bomb> that doesn't answer my question
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> bomb: should volunteers choose what you need?
[14:12] <lordcirth> bomb, I would install it from apt.
[14:13] <Wayward_Vagabond> bomb: the programs are equivlent in function, and after it's installed the end result is the same
[14:14] <bomb> thanks
[14:14] <tomreyn> not exactly the same, but similar
[14:14] <pragmaticenigma> bomb: What the volunteers here are trying to say is, this is a support channel, for getting support with applications you are currently used. If you're looking for recommendations and opinions about software, asking in #ubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate.
[14:15] <shonhadow> tomreyn, i have uploaded it to alsaproject
[14:15] <tomreyn> shonhadow: any luck with this?
[14:15] <tomreyn> oh, good, can you paste the url?
[14:15] <pragmaticenigma> Wayward_Vagabond: What keybindings are you trying to access?
[14:16] <bomb> it's not off-topic at all pragmaticenigma
[14:16] <shonhadow> tomreyn, http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=d51d30f2810d135968645c2ce601e9afcdd49254
[14:16] <Wayward_Vagabond> alt+1-9 to cycle through windows
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> Wayward_Vagabond: I never got those to work, I used the Alt + n to cycle through the windows
[14:17] <Wayward_Vagabond> I can't seem to figure out what key I'm supposed to use to interact with check boxes though
[14:17] <tomreyn> shonhadow: thanks, i'm reading, this can take some minutes
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> Wayward_Vagabond: Spacebar
[14:17] <shonhadow> tomreyn, okay
[14:18] <Wayward_Vagabond> pragmaticenigma: ohh, the one thing I didn't try
[14:18] <Wayward_Vagabond> and it does capture n/p
[14:23] <tomreyn> shonhadow: hmm so this suggests your audio chipset was properly detected, mixers and sufficient sound devices were setup, and are not disabled. so i'd expected those to also show up on your gnome settings app. does    sudo apt update && sudo apt install pavucontrol && pavucontrol    show anything?
[14:29] <puradawid-pro> Hey, did someone try to connect Magic Mouse / Magic Keyboard to Ubuntu by Bluetooth? I guess that might be a kind of a challenge :-(
[14:29] <tomreyn> shonhadow: and do you happen to know which of these you have? it probably says on the bottom of your computer close to the screen hinges in extra small print, or on a sticker on the bottom: https://support.hp.com/us-en/products/identify?q=HP%20Pavilion%20dv6
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> puradawid-pro: i have a bug for that, holdon please
[14:32]  * DanDare takes a can of pesticide
[14:33] <shonhadow> tomreyn, Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.27-3ubuntu1) ...
[14:33] <CaptainN> rm -r pesticide
[14:33] <tomreyn> shonhadow: is it usually this slow?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> puradawid-pro: seems like launchpad is currently offline, see the github directly please: https://github.com/robotrovsky/Linux-Magic-Trackpad-2-Driver
[14:34] <shonhadow> tomreyn, i will send a screenshot
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> puradawid-pro: when i tested it, i had to install blueman, and that git method
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> puradawid-pro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe/+bug/1822770
[14:37] <shonhadow> tomreyn, hhttps://imgur.com/FArDdDj
[14:39] <shonhadow> tomreyn, it shouldnt be this slow.on fresh install of ubuntu ,pavucontrol worked in seconds
[14:40] <tomreyn> shonhadow: maybe something is generally wrong on this system, then. can you post   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <puradawid-pro> lotuspsychje: cheers, very appreciate, will let you know how it goes :P
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> puradawid-pro: if it solves for you, can you mark yourself affected to the bug please?
[14:41] <OerHeks> shonhadow, installing pavucontrol and have the window opened?
[14:42] <OerHeks> time to close that columecontrol first
[14:42] <OerHeks> c/volumecontrol
[14:42] <tomreyn> right, that's be a good idea
[14:43] <tomreyn> shonhadow: ^
[14:43] <shonhadow> tomreyn, its same as the image i sent\
[14:43] <tomreyn> shonhadow: closing the volume control window may enable the installation to complete, though
[14:44] <tomreyn> you seem to have someonehow managed to open pavucontrol while it was still installing.
[14:45] <tomreyn> or maybe it just looks as if, due to how i queued the commands i provided.
[14:45] <shonhadow> tomreyn, terminal ended at "Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.27-3ubuntu1) ..."
[14:46] <shonhadow> on opening the pavuvontrol via terminal it says establishing connection
[14:46] <tomreyn> either way, close the "volume control" window, then do the    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999    and post the url it returns, then run pavucontrol again
[14:46] <OerHeks> shonhadow, no, it did not ended .. i see no prompt
[14:47] <OerHeks> how odd, still not closing that window..?
[14:47] <tomreyn> OerHeks: here's what i had asked shonhadow to run earlier:   sudo apt update && sudo apt install pavucontrol && pavucontrol
[14:47] <tomreyn> so there would be no prompt
[14:48] <OerHeks> oh missed that part, && pavucontrol
[14:49] <shonhadow> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/ob71
[14:50] <tomreyn> shonhadow: thanks, unfortunatley it's not complete. can you run:   dmesg | tail -n 500 | nc termbin.com 9999      and post this url as well
[14:51] <shonhadow> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/wd6y
[14:51] <OerHeks> systemctl status pulseaudio.service
[14:53] <tomreyn> this doesn't exist on my system, OerHeks
[14:53] <shonhadow> tomreyn, volume control is of no use.closing it for now
[14:54] <tomreyn> ok
[14:55] <tomreyn> shonhadow: please post:   pactl list | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:56] <tomreyn> shonhadow: also this:   pactl info | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:05] <shonhadow> tomreyn, Connection failure: Connection refused   pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[15:05] <tomreyn> shonhadow: by the way, your ufw (firewall) seems to be configured to block its own DNS queries.
[15:05] <tomreyn> well, the systems'
[15:05] <shonhadow> should i switch it off for that
[15:06] <tomreyn> you should configure it not to block those if you intend to use it.
[15:06] <tomreyn> and yes, it may help to temporariyl disable the firewall while you're trying to make pulseaudio work
[15:08] <shonhadow> still the same result
[15:08] <shonhadow> does it require sudo?
[15:08] <tomreyn> what is "it"?
[15:09] <shonhadow> sudo pactl list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:10] <tomreyn> no
[15:10] <tomreyn> shonhadow: can you reboot the system with ufw off?
[15:10] <shonhadow> okay
[15:11] <Helenah2> Hi, I installed alsa on Ubuntu Server get this from my mpv output. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FZVPZbhC3F/
[15:11] <Helenah2> there is alsa-utils which i installed too
[15:11] <Helenah2> alsamixer can't find a mixer
[15:15] <tomreyn> Helenah2: you wrote this in #ubuntu-server: "I'm use Ubuntu Server even for desktop systems." - this may mean you're lacking some required packages. which (graphical) desktop environment are you using there?
[15:17] <shonhadow> tomreyn, still the same output(Connection failure: Connection refused  pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused)
[15:19] <stoned> I installed ubuntu 18.04 on my desktop at work and it says dummy output for sound, but I'm sure there is onboard sound chip
[15:21] <tomreyn> shonhadow: okay but let'S try this now:   journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:23] <tomreyn> stoned: i won't be able to help right now but this is how you can gather more information:    cd; wget https://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[15:32] <Helenah2> tomreyn: I'm not using a DE.
[15:33] <Helenah2> I'm using i3wm
[15:33] <Helenah2> Why would I install Ubuntu Desktop when I would have to purge unity and install i3wm when I can just install Ubuntu Server and install what i need?
[15:35] <tomreyn> because it would ensure you have all the packages installed you'd need for audio.
[15:35] <Helenah2> tomreyn: I also don't want to be using display manager?
[15:35] <Helenah2> *managers
[15:35] <tomreyn> but other than that i'm surel ynot planning to push you towards anything
[15:36] <Helenah2> I'm pretty sure we can get to the bottom of this on just Ubuntu Server.
[15:37] <tomreyn> personally, i did enough sound debugging for today, but you may well be able to find some other volunteer who'll help out. i suggest you start by posting the output of a current alsa-info.sh
[15:38] <Helenah2> Okay :)
[15:40] <tomreyn> shonhadow: nothing from you, and i need to take a break, ttyl
[15:41] <Helenah2> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=712c0c1e38ac7f82fe840ed761154e870e3675e3
[15:41] <Helenah2> tomreyn: Cya soon! :)
[15:49] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade fails. The error is "Errors were encountered while processing: udev xserver-xorg-core smapd " Can I get assistance fixing my errors?
[15:51] <Helenah2> MannyLNJ: apt-get update only updates your package cache, the error you got from upgrade is unrelated to the cache.
[15:54] <DOSfan> Question ... my computer here is running Ubuntu 16.04 and works quite well, however my monitor is not being detected (Unknown monitor) ... so my resolution is low (1280x768).
[15:55] <DOSfan> Is there some advice on how to increase the size, a web page or some tips?
[15:55] <DanDare> MannyLNJ, thats the only error/warning you get after trying apt? I suspect that it helps people to help if you pastebin the entire apt output lines.
[15:59] <stoned> tomreyn: ok, I got the info, which matches alsamixer info as well. I installed pavucontrol but no luck yet. Do I need to reboot?
[16:04] <pragmaticenigma> DOSfan: If you know what your monitor's native resolutions and timings are, this article may help you in setting them manually: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/04/custom-screen-resolution-ubuntu-desktop/
[16:06] <shonhadow> tomreyn, thanks for assist till now.problem not solved yet.would you like to proceed further?
[16:08] <stoned> Ok
[16:09] <stoned> I rebooted after pavu control and now sound is ok i think
[16:09] <stoned> Yes, sound is okay now!
[16:12] <MannyLNJ> DanDare, https://pastebin.com/rnRgZs52
[16:22] <ioria> MannyLNJ, apt-cache policy udev
[16:23] <Helenah2> stoned: I wish my audio was fixed :(
[16:26] <designbybeck> is there a way to install Ubuntu in bulk via network like Windows is done for large installs?
[16:27] <compdoc> they need a program named the bulkinator
[16:28] <OerHeks> metal as a service, maas.io
[16:30] <designbybeck> hmmm
[16:44] <seanrdev> does anyone know how to install from command line?
[16:44] <seanrdev> How to start installation of Ubuntu 18 desktop from the command line
[16:45] <seanrdev> Once ISO is loaded and I switch tty and login with 'ubuntu' and get a shell prompt.
[16:45] <OerHeks> seanrdev, why? the iso gives a graphical installer
[16:54] <seanrdev> OerHeks: I understand but the cheap crappy system I am installing it on seems to make the OS thing there is multiple screens connected. So I only see the left side of the screen and the installer is on the right.
[16:54] <seanrdev> *think
[16:55] <seanrdev> Sorry.. I only see the right side of the screen and the installer is on the left
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> seanrdev: Remove the extra monitor connections ... you can add them later
[16:55] <seanrdev> pragmaticenigma: There are no extra monitor connections guys. It's only one HDMI connection
[16:56] <seanrdev> Why.... Is it impossible to install via command line?
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> seanrdev: The Desktop ISO does not come with that ability, the assumption is that if you are installing the Desktop ISO, you have graphical capabilities
[17:00] <OerHeks> interesting.
[17:02] <Oderus> Hi guys. Recently my HDD had some bad clusters and sectors causing me some trouble. I ordered a new 2tb sata drive for a replacement. What would you all recommend I do with it? Just format it with the installer or is there other things I should do?
[17:02] <acetakwas> My speakers don't work until I run `pulseaudio -D` or `pulseaudio -k` all the time.
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> !nomodeset | seanrdev: maybe try booting with nomodeset ?
[17:02] <acetakwas> What can I do to avoid this?
[17:03] <lordcirth> acetakwas, silence or static?
[17:03] <acetakwas> lordcirth: What does that mean?
[17:03] <lordcirth> acetakwas, sorry, when you say it "doesn't work", are your speakers totally silent, or full of static?
[17:04] <acetakwas> On the Pulse Audio Volume Control interface, I see: "Establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..."
[17:04] <acetakwas> lordcirth: silent.
[17:04] <acetakwas> No sound.
[17:04] <rfm> seanrdev, also maybe check the bios setup screens to see if there's some config for active monitor ports.
[17:05] <acetakwas> It happens every time I startup my computer, then I have to run `pulseaudio -D` before sound starts working.
[17:05] <acetakwas> Also, I use i3.
[17:07] <OerHeks> oh, tons of howto's  for i3wm howto start pulse propperly
[17:07] <OerHeks> exec --no-startup-id i3-msg 'exec /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start'
[17:08] <acetakwas> OerHeks: Many thanks.
[17:11] <seanrdev> Thanks guys I will look at all the above.
[17:13] <sentiment> what the heck?
[17:13] <sentiment> how can I restart the xinput system?
[17:14] <sentiment> occasionally I can't type a letter and have to reboot the whole damn os
[17:16] <tomreyn> Oderus: there's nothing else you need to do to prepare it. you can run a short or long !smart self test on it, but you can still do that later (and it actually makes more sense later). an ssd might have been a better choice than a hdd, unless you need much storage for cheap.
[17:17] <Oderus> I heard ssd do not last as long
[17:18] <tomreyn> that's not really true. data on it might perish if not rewritten every couple of years.
[17:18] <lordcirth> Oderus, all storage devices fail and should be redundant if they hold anything important.
[17:18] <sentiment> is this os a wacko or what
[17:19] <sentiment> how can it randomly make a key unresponsive
[17:19] <Oderus> Lordcirth that they do... i was just under the impression that refular drives last longer
[17:20] <Oderus> Tomreyn interesting I did not know thay
[17:20] <lordcirth> That's also true of magnetic disks, but that's like 15 years
[17:20] <tomreyn> sentiment: if you have support questions, please ask them and provide context. if you would like to discuss your experiences while using your computer, this support channel is not the right place.
[17:21] <Oderus> 15 years is about how long this magnetic drive lastes me
[17:22] <sentiment> tomreyn: ok. I thought I mentioned the problem
[17:22] <tomreyn> Oderus: if you'd like more details on hardware options, you could also ask the folks in ##hardware
[17:22] <Oderus> Oh ok good idea!
[17:22] <sentiment> a given key in my national layout randomly stops responding and I'll have to reboot the os
[17:23] <sentiment> specifically it's the s key (in the national layout it types another letter)
[17:23] <lordcirth> sentiment, that sounds like it could also be a hardware issue?
[17:23] <sentiment> oh come on
[17:23] <tomreyn> sentiment: it would probably help if you added conext, though, such as the ubuntu version and variant you're running there, whether it's installed, yet, or happening during installation, whether this is a new behaviour or happened before, etc.
[17:24] <sentiment> well it certainly happens randomly on daily usage
[17:24] <sentiment> I'm running 18.10 btw
[17:24] <seanrdev> Lol I can't even see a bios screen after changing settings. Dammit....
[17:24] <sentiment> tomreyn: not sure how it started though
[17:24] <tomreyn> sentiment: ubuntu 18.10 is supported for another 13 days, i suggest you upgrade soon.
[17:25] <sentiment> well that's another matter
[17:25] <lordcirth> sentiment, what if you unplug the keyboard for a few seconds, and re-plug it?
[17:25] <tomreyn> sentiment: maybe upgrade first and try to solve the keyboard issue later, if it's still present then.
[17:25] <sentiment> hmm, are you sure? because it happens just with a certain layout
[17:26] <sentiment> it sounds like a rather simple 90s problem
[17:26] <seanrdev> I would like to take fuel and fire to this system. Stupid chinese cheap boxes. Thanks anyway for your help.
[17:26] <sentiment> gonna replug now
[17:27] <tomreyn> seanrdev: i'm not sure this was suggested, yet, but there are two ubuntu server installers, and a mini.iso, and debootstrap, all of which offer a text based installation method.
[17:28] <tomreyn> and you can convert server installations into a desktop installation, too.
[17:28] <sentiment> no go
[17:28] <sentiment> alas
[17:29] <seanrdev> tomreyn: Should have just done a server install. That's ok. I have about 23 more of these mini boxes. Just need the install to work on one.
[17:29] <tomreyn> seanrdev: which device is it?
[17:31] <other_rick> Hi, I need to catch the kernel traces from my laptop during the boot load, but I haven't a serial port interface, someone has an approach?
[17:32] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot
[17:32] <tomreyn> actually this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging
[17:32] <Oderus> When installing fresh on a new hdd, is ot safer to have seperate partitions for root, home, swap, boot, and file storage? That is what I have done in the past
[17:32] <tomreyn> other_rick: netconsole is an option, but wont catch everything.
[17:34] <Eickmeyer> !crosspost | Oderus
[17:34] <Oderus> Sorry ubottu
[17:37] <DanDare> Oderus, how safer? You mean if a partition get corrupted you isolate that problem? I think this is very relative, for my personal usage I just have everything in one partition and make regular backups of stuff that matter.
[17:38] <Oderus> Dan: Unsure, i just heard that doing so was a safer bet
[17:38] <DanDare> For me it makes more sense if its a multi user system, so having it in different partitions help on disk quota, avoid filling 100% disk on the system partitions etc
[17:39] <Oderus> DanDare: ohh okay
[17:39] <tomreyn> Oderus: having separate file systems for system paths on ubuntu trades flexibility against potentially improved operational / service continuity. it's mostly used on servers and multi-user systems, for desktops there's little to gain this way.
[17:40] <DanDare> Well my personal way of viewing this thing is: If youre unsure your probably go better having everything in one partition
[17:40] <tomreyn> i guess Dan already explained it, and better than i did. :)
[17:40] <Oderus> Tomreyn: so a single partition would be quicker?
[17:40] <DanDare> There are caveats about partitioning: Like if you want more space on /home, then you discover you have unused space in other partitions, then got lock there, etc
[17:41] <tomreyn> not noticeably quicker, no.
[17:41] <Oderus> Just not particularly necessary huh
[17:45] <DanDare> Sometimes i choose where I put swap on the disk though, among partitions, for less disk seeking time etc. But I think is more related to neurotic behavior than anything else :p
[17:45] <tomreyn> understanindg what the eventual benefit of compartmentalizing certain OS direcotry tres onto separate file systems could be takes a certain level of experience, such as / running full, and seeing how that affects your overall operation, versus just one of those paths running full. it's not something you should concern yourself with if you're rather new to linux or just running a desktop system. you can choose to enable LVM, though, which will
[17:45] <tomreyn> enable you to rearrange things later to your liking without a need to reinstall.
[17:45] <sentiment> tomreyn: any clues?
[17:45] <tomreyn> sentiment: on what?
[17:46] <sentiment> at least tell me plz how to restart xinput?
[17:46] <sentiment> that might sort it out
[17:46] <tomreyn> sentiment: restart x
[17:46] <sentiment> I ran a search and found a command xinput disable
[17:46] <tomreyn> + any clients using it
[17:46] <sentiment> but that would disable the keyboard
[17:47] <sentiment> ok, I thought it might be a better idea to just restart xinput
[17:47] <pedrocr> recently my 19.04 install on a Lenovo T460s has started having noticeably distorted sound even at low volumes
[17:47] <pedrocr> anyone noticed something similar?
[17:48] <Oderus> Tomreyn: ive been usuing ubuntu since 8.04 so not new, but I certainly do not know everything. Mostly I use my pc for videos, playing audio, and ripping high quality .flac from vinyl recordings
[17:49] <tomreyn> sentiment: there#s no "xinput" process you could just restart to reinitialize X's input handling.
[17:51] <tomreyn> Oderus: if you do video (and, to a degree, music) editing, it would probably make sense to place this on fast physical storage (such as ssd, maybe mirror RAID for faster reads), whereas the rest doesn't ened to be as fast (could be hdd, for example)
[17:52] <tomreyn> for the average user, you just need one large chunk of space for /home though, and the rest is pretty irrelevant
[17:52] <Oderus> Tomreyn: great info, thank you
[17:53] <tomreyn> and home can also be part of / then
[17:53] <Oderus> Tomreyn: okay
[17:57] <sentiment> this sucks
[17:57] <sentiment> I'm going to reboot the damn thing
[17:57] <x000> DO IT
[18:00] <xibalba> fix it like it's windows
[18:55] <arooni> can i stop my laptop [18.04] from displaying a clock after an extended period of time
[18:56] <amineral> disable shield
[18:56] <amineral> or disable screen shield
[18:56] <amineral> there is a package as i remember
[19:01] <arooni> which is it?
[19:01] <arooni> name of package ; didnt mean to sound snarky ;P
[19:01] <OerHeks> that is old, gnome 3.22 https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/672/disable-screen-shield/
[19:01] <ioria> an extension, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/672/disable-screen-shield/
[19:02] <OerHeks> you might want to make font size 0px https://askubuntu.com/questions/1107000/removing-clock-from-the-lock-screen
[19:03] <mdemo> that's a funny hack-ish solution
[19:05] <diskin> arooni, what is the problem you are trying to solve?
[19:21] <barretj> hello, i just got a 15 inch 2019 Macbook Pro and am trying to install ubuntu on it, but the internal SSD is not recognized. I tried the steps here to edit the grub config but it didnt work https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2408864&page=2&p=13826489#post13826489
[19:21] <barretj> what else should I try?
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> barretj: i think for an nvme, you need the advanced partitioning in setup
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> arooni: There is a setting for screen time out, in there should be an option for locking the screen, which you can turn off
[19:26] <OerHeks> AFAIK the T2 Chip inside Macbook Pro, prevent you from writing on encrypted internal drive, use vmware or virtualbox?
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> barretj: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/11/apple-t2-chip-cant-boot-linux
[19:29] <Xard> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MacBook-Finally-Linux-SSD-RW
[19:30] <barretj> thanks Xard
[19:31] <Xard> seems like the T2 encryption preventing rw seems to be completely false claim and it's more like that the Apple is just using some proriatery NVMe protocol instead
[19:31] <Xard> because why not...
[19:31] <AlexP11223> Is there any Gnome extension or something to show weather on the desktop (like Windows Vista-7 widgets) or in the application menu (Win key) instead of the tray?
[19:32] <barretj> it's frustrating because not long ago macs played real nice with linux
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> AlexP11223: conky can do widgets
[19:32] <Xard> barretj: I know, i've been using Apple laptops since the ppc times
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> barretj: they still do, but not all models
[19:32] <OerHeks> AlexP11223,  i think i have openweather extention, install gnome-tweak-tool and gnome-shell-extension-weather
[19:33] <barretj> Xard: did you apply that kernel patch?
[19:33] <Xard> I have a 2013 mbpro, no need to do any of that
[19:34] <Firefishe> How do I determine if the Android Debug Bridge and Fastboot are working in Ubuntu 18.04?
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: are you trying to flash a phone?
[19:35] <OerHeks> Xard, experimental... not worth looking into
[19:35] <AlexP11223> OerHeks: afaik it's only in the tray. Also it failed to auto detect my location and looks like it cannot search by city/country, only by coordinates
[19:36] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Yes.  My os has tanked and I need to reinstall the stock firmware.  I'm aware of that process, I'm in fastboot on the phone, but the puter/adb doesn't seem to be detecting it.  It's worked before.
[19:36] <Xard> OerHeks: probably, but it still invalidates your statement :)
[19:36] <OerHeks> AlexP11223, search on location works fine here
[19:36] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: And my adb/fastboot skills are rusty.
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: is your phone in dev mode?
[19:37] <OerHeks> Xard, as that phoronics post says it is unstable, and the end mark " he will be able to get it working." i think it does.
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: after installing all the adb tools, try adb devices from terminal with phone branched via usb
[19:38] <OerHeks> +  he isn't sure ..
[19:39] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: My phone has developed a curious issue.  Although fine, yesterday, it is now asking for a password to access the os at boot time.  The os is LineageOS 14.1 (no longer supporting this device so I'm winging it), and what's weird is that this seems to think the device is encrypted.  I never encrypted it.  I can't boot into TWRP Recovery, it just boots back to that screen again.
[19:40] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu is what I've used to flash before, using fastboot/adb, but it won't even detect the phone in usb mode now.
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: can you still enter your phone Os to enable dev mode?
[19:41] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Developer Mode is enabled, but I can't boot into the phone.
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: until adb devices doesnt show a number/letter combo, something isnt right yet
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: after that device is recognized you can also adb fastboot
[19:42] <Voltrix>  /help -l
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: sure you also have all the adb tools installed too?
[19:43] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Device is a moto x pure edition (xt1575)
[19:43] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Yes, for some time now.
[19:44] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Do I have to turn something on before the system is sensitized to detecting my device?  Something I've forgotten to start?
[19:44] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: A daemon or something?
[19:45] <OerHeks> make sure the phonescreen is unlocked, before inserting usb
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: i dont think so, just installing the tools should do the trick i think
[19:45] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: They are installed.
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: you could try a reboot
[19:46] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Here's an example.  I get an error:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZQjRXGCGMr/
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: wich ubuntu please?
[19:47] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Multiple times.  My phone is in fastboot mode.  USB shows connected.  I'm stuck in a reboot loop, wherein I cannot access TWRP or any of the other modes available in fastboot.  Something is corrupted, and I'm trying to hard-flash a stock firmware I have.
[19:48] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: I'm justing wanting to get ubuntu to recognize my device so I can access adb
[19:49] <akem-hp> Firefishe, What phone model is it?
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: other then a reboot, usb debugging and phonescreen unlocked, that should be recognized
[19:50] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: I'm thinking I may have to have it jtagged by a service group at this point.  The thing is in need of replacement anyway, I just dont' have the funds to do it right now.
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: doublecheck your settings here perhaps, https://computingforgeeks.com/install-adb-fastboot-on-ubuntu-mint/
[19:54] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: Thank you.  Reading it now.
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> Firefishe: it sometimes help to vol up+ vol down on your phone to get in/out some modes too
[20:06] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: The adb server is starting now, but fastboot is showing this error constantly:  fastboot: symbol lookup error: fastboot: undefined symbol: ExtractEntryToFile
[20:07] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: When I execute the command `adb shell'
[20:07] <Firefishe> lotuspsychje: When I execute the command `adb shell'  , I get:  error, no devices/emulators found
[20:08] <Firefishe> brb
[20:31] <nordmike> I'm trying to install redmine and get this error:
[20:31] <nordmike> Could not find gem 'render_parent (>= 0.0.4)' in any of the gem sources listed in your Gemfile.
[20:32] <nordmike> What's wrong and how can I fix it?
[20:37] <OerHeks> ubuntu has nightlight installed already,,
[20:37] <tomreyn> nordmike: how are you installing? which ubuntu release are you running?
[20:38] <OerHeks> ow redMINE, not redshift, sorry
[20:38] <tomreyn> nordmike: on 18.04 it should be as easy as    sudo apt update && sudo apt install redmine
[20:39] <nordmike> tomreyn: Ubuntu 18.04. apt install redmine
[20:40] <tomreyn> nordmike: what's the command that outputs the above error, what's the full output? what was the output when installing redmine via apt?
[20:44] <nordmike> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sR4zzHyjRS/
[20:46] <tomreyn> nordmike: does    apt update    list pending updates?
[20:46] <tomreyn> +sudo
[20:47] <nordmike> tomreyn: > All packages are up to date.
[20:50] <tomreyn> nordmike:   ls -l /usr/lib/ruby/gems/*/gems | grep render | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:02] <tomreyn> nordmike: actually, this gem does not seem to be needed, maybe you installed the redmine package from a different apt source? i just installed on ubuntu 18.04 and there was no such error message. however, a LOT more packages were installed than your output showed.
[21:04]  * tomreyn bbl
[21:05] <nordmike> tomreyn: ls shows nothing.
[21:06] <nordmike> tomreyn: Dependency list is short because they've been installed already.
[21:07] <TJ-> nordmike: it could be affected by other Ruby 'stuff' I guess; I cannot see render_parent listed in a full archive search
[21:12] <pynthon> Heya, I just ran fsck on a 3tb external HDD drive. It said that it found 2400 inodes with multiply claimed blocks. Fixing or deleting these files (inodes) just takes hous.
[21:12] <pynthon> Is there a faster way?
[21:13] <TJ-> pynthon: not unless you can afford to lose the data
[21:14] <pynthon> TJ-Thanks! Is there a quick way to see which files are at risk so to speak?
[21:15] <TJ-> pynthon: I'm not sure; in most cases tools can be made to be very verbose
[21:17] <pynthon> TJ- thanks I will do some Googling! BTW since the HDD is formatted as ext3 which uses journaling AFAIK I assumed that doing all this fsck stuff wouldn't be necessary but I was wrong?
[21:22] <Wayward_Vagabond> How would I go about forcing xubuntu 18.04.2 to output 1280x1024 76Hz video, instead of the 640x480 73Hz mode it's stuck in?
[21:23] <pragmaticenigma> pynthon: is that machine crashing a lot, or not being properly powered down?
[21:27] <nordmike> tomreyn, TJ-: I've removed /usr/share/redmine/plugins/redmine_latex_mathjax/ and apt install worked.
[21:28] <nordmike> Thank you for advice.
[21:31] <pynthon> pragmaticenigma Not really but I think I pulled out the usb cable once while it was still copying files
[21:33] <blaster> Hello I am trying to update to Java 11 and I downloaded and installed the JDK 11 from Oracle, and it seemed to succeed but I'm still getting version 9 when I run java --version
[21:34] <pragmaticenigma> pynthon: that would do it too
[21:34] <pynthon> pragmaticenigma lol didn't know file systems were that sensitive ;p
[21:35] <pynthon> even with journaling like ext3?
[21:35] <pragmaticenigma> pynthon: those are all methods to help, but they're not bullet proof. best practices still apply, especially with portable meadia
[21:35] <pragmaticenigma> *media
[21:35] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: that sounds like an issue with the incorrect GPU driver being selected
[21:36] <pragmaticenigma> blaster: you have to explicitly launch your application with the correct java binary
[21:36] <pynthon> pragmaticenigma I see! Thanks a lot!
[21:36] <Wayward_Vagabond> TJ-: there is a gpu specific driver, but it's also framebuffer and works worse than generic one
[21:37] <Wayward_Vagabond> TJ-: I think the main problem right now is a kvm switch not passing monitor ID correctly
[21:37] <TJ-> pynthon: when you pull the cable out consider the OS may be using a write-behind cache so what is being written to the device is from up to 5 seconds ago, this is one reason amongst others to cleanly unmount/sync before removing
[21:37] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: that sounds likely too
[21:38] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: you can check in the Xorg.0.log file for what modes the EDID passes, if any
[21:40] <Wayward_Vagabond> Hmm, lemme get irc up on that machine real quick
[21:40] <pynthon> TJ- Because when you unmount it flushes the write-behind cache/buffer?
[21:40] <TJ-> pynthon: yes
[21:41] <TJ-> pynthon: well, actually no, unmount ensures the file-system is closed, but the write-behind still operates, which is why for removable media we have "eject /dev/sdX" or "sync" which specifically flushes
[21:42] <TJ-> pynthon: GUI's usually have both "unmount" and "eject" options on removable devices
[21:42] <Wayward_Vagabond> sudo xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_76.00"  140.75  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024 1027 1034 1072 -hsync +vsync
[21:42] <Wayward_Vagabond> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[21:43] <Wayward_Vagabond> that was the modeline that 'cvt 1280 1024 76' gave me
[21:43] <pragmaticenigma> Wayward_Vagabond: Try that with 60 Hz refresh rate
[21:44] <pynthon> TJ- Interesting! Can I eject via CLI? And how long does the OS keep the write-behind buffer? If I mount the HDD later, will it write the contents of the write-behind buffer to the hdd?
[21:44] <Wayward_Vagabond> pragmaticenigma: I've had it outputting this exact mode before is what's puzzling me
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> Wayward_Vagabond: another option is to plug the monitor directly into the computer, get the detected modes, then put it back through the KVM
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> Then you could add the modelines back in
[21:47] <Wayward_Vagabond> blah, I already have all the cables dressed >:
[21:47] <TJ-> pynthon: some removable devices have the write-cache disabled, but to answer you question, just ensure you unmount and then do "sync" or "eject /dev/sdX" where X is the device letter
[21:53] <Snorghma> hi guys, I'm about to install ubuntu, what is the difference between the guided partiion and the guided lvm partion
[21:54] <blaster> pragmaticenigma, how can I determine where the binary is located if I installed the oracle JDK from a .deb file?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> !lvm | Snorghma
[21:55] <Snorghma> thanks
[21:57] <amazoniantoad> Hey I'm trying to run ubuntu on my desktop but I can't seem to boot into it. It is an issue related to my graphics card as far as I can tell. It's an msi geforce gtx 1080. I tried nomodeset but it did not work. The symptom is that I get a black screen prior to grub loading
[21:57] <amazoniantoad> If anyone could help me I'd greatly appreciate it
[21:58] <amazoniantoad> I got it to run just fine by installing an older graphics card
[21:58] <amazoniantoad> but I want to use my newer one
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> Programs not installed by the package manager are often found in /opt or /usr/local/bin ... it's not always in those locations as that would depending on the developer/project teams decision on where they setup their install scripts to install to. You would have to consult the documentation for help with that. Oracle Java 11 is not presently provided in the Ubuntu software repositories which means it's not supported by this
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> channel. You can use !alis to find a room dedicated to helping you with Oracle Java if you need further assistance
[21:58] <pragmaticenigma> blaster: ^ ^ plaese see above
[21:58] <blaster> k thanks
[22:04] <amazoniantoad> Ugh this is such an annoying issue
[22:04] <amazoniantoad> I have a buddy with a very similar graphics card and he was able to install/run ubuntu just fine
[22:05] <coz_> amazoniantoad, did you check the md5sum for the downloaded image?
[22:07] <amazoniantoad> coz_, no but I could do that now. I don't think that's the issue since I was able to successfully boot into the OS with a different graphics card
[22:07] <coz_> amazoniantoad, ah ok,
[22:07] <sixie6e> amazoniantoad press e to edit when grub pops up. try adding 'i915.preliminary_hw_support=1' and or 'nouveau.modest=0'
[22:07] <amazoniantoad> sixie6e, grub doesn't load - is the problem. Are you saying I should do that while having the old graphics card in and then try with the new one popped in?
[22:09] <amazoniantoad> sixie6e, grub loads when I have this old graphics card in. but not when I have the new one in
[22:10] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: can you get into the system's firmware setup, before GRUB ?
[22:10] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, how would I do that?
[22:10] <sixie6e> amazoniantoad interesting. try adding those things to the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT='quiet splash' with the old card in. run sudo update-grub, pop the new card in and see if anything changes
[22:11] <sixie6e> amazoniantoad you would have to go reset grub file to default if it is unsuccessful though
[22:11] <amazoniantoad> sixie6e, TJ- I'm going to hop in here on my laptop so I don't lose you guys and then start editting grub with my old graphics card in. currently i'm booted into with windows
[22:11] <amazoniantoad> so hold on a second
[22:11] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: the motherboard will have some hot-key you press to enter setup as soon as power is applied, usually it's something like F2 or Del
[22:11] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, you mean BIOS?
[22:11] <sixie6e> amazoniantoad you are not allowed to use windows lol
[22:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: if the mobo's setup works with the new GPU then at least you know it should work with GRUB
[22:12] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: maybe BIOS, maybe UEFI
[22:13] <amazoniantoad> okay
[22:13] <amazoniantoad> On my laptop now
[22:14] <sixie6e> typo nouveau.modeset=0
[22:15] <amazoniantoad> sixie6e, TJ- about to reboot into ubuntu
[22:18] <amazoniantoad> sixie6e, so currently GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT is set equal to "quiet splash nomodeset"
[22:18] <amazoniantoad> You're saying to set it equal to  nouveau.modeset=0?
[22:18] <amazoniantoad> Or append it?
[22:20] <amazoniantoad> I am going to permanently add this to grub btw, since I can't perpetuate this edit any other way
[22:27] <amazoniantoad> Hello?
[22:29] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, what were you going to recommend about BIOS?
[22:31] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: just test if the display works - if it does then you've proved the GPU is fine. If GRUB menu cannot be seen when it is *supposed* to be displayed (when you tap Esc key) then it may be caused by one of the GRUB_GFX* options
[22:32] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, the graphics card is in another computer right now and the port is working just fine. Does that count as a valid test?
[22:32] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: this usually happens on UEFI boot mode due to bad GPU modes reported as valid to GRUB
[22:33] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: well sort-of, but it doesn't prove the GPU works in the problem PC *unless* you can confirm that when the GPU was in this problem PC you saw the initial POST messages from the motherboard, before GRUB was loaded
[22:34] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, I see. This GPU was also running just fine in this computer prior to me trying to dual boot it with ubuntu.
[22:36] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: well, we're not telepathic so its hard to diagnose remotely. I usually have GRUB set to use text mode anyhow, not graphical, to avoid these issues. In /etc/default/grub I have "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text" and "GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu"
[22:38] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, should I go ahead and set that option?
[22:39] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: displabling modeset will prevent the native display resolutions being used
[22:39] <TJ-> grr, fingers! "disabling"
[22:39] <amazoniantoad> k
[22:43] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, okay still a black screen after trying sixie6e's advice
[22:43] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: are you able to interrupt GRUB at boot-time by tapping Esc key and get the menu?
[22:43] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, no
[22:44] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: are you seeing anything at all, even flickering as mode changes are attempted?
[22:44] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, just a black screen. I see BIOS options before hand and everything. No no flickering
[22:45] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: if you cannot get to the GRUB menu that makes me think GRUB isn't even loading
[22:45] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, that's what I've been saying, I don't think grub is loading
[22:45] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: are you using a USB keyboard?
[22:45] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, yes
[22:46] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, but why would grub suddenly load when there is a graphics card of another model installed? It makes no sense
[22:46] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: right; in the BIOS/UEFI setup options, ensure that "USB Legacy" is enabled - GRUB requires that the firmware provides it with input device services
[22:46] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: if that isn't enabled it's possible Esc doesn't work because GRUB is not receiving it
[22:48] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, legacy usb support is enabled
[22:48] <amazoniantoad> it already was
[22:48] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: good, so we can assume GRUB ought to be able to read the keyboard
[22:49] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, want me to swap out the graphics cards one more time to test and see if what sixie6e suggested actually results in grub loading with the other graphics card?
[22:49] <septian> test
[22:50] <tomreyn> septian: /join #tests please
[22:50] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: there are two stages to GRUB loading; if the first fails (on BIOS) you should see at least "GRUB Read error" or, if it manages to load GRUB core, then "grub rescue>" prompt
[22:51] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, it just loaded to grub after I exited bios
[22:51] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, wtfffff
[22:51] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: nomodeset/modeset only applies to Linux. You're telling us GRUB doesn't start, which is the boot-loader that would load Linux. So if GRUB doesn't start, Linux won't and those settings won't help
[22:51] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, ubuntu is starting up now
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> wtf
[22:52] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: boot device ordering? are there multiple devices it could boot from?
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> Wtfffff
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> It just booted
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> What in the world
[22:52] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: it's scared of me :)
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, hahaha
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, okay should we try to recreate this?
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> First I went to BIOS and then left and then it went into grubn
[22:52] <amazoniantoad> grub*
[22:53] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: as I said, are there multiple devices? you could have affected the boot device ordering
[22:54] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, multiple devices such as what? There are multiple peripheral devices sure
[22:54] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: multiple *storage* devices, like hard disk, SSD, USB flash
[22:55] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, yes there are multiple hard disks from what I recall. I'd have to open the case up and look
[22:55] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: if so I'd guess the default is a device without a boot-loader on it, possibly a USB flash data device
[22:56] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, how does this play into me exiting bios and it magically going into grub?
[22:56] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: right, so ensure the BIOS boot-device ordering is set correctly and if possible remove unbootable devices from the list of devices it'll try
[22:56] <amazoniantoad> I understand it interrupted the boot sequence of these devices but why not just restart the entire boot sequence?
[22:56] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: usually the BIOS should report a bad boot device though, so makes me think there's something making it think there is a valid boot-loader but then turns out its random bits and not executable code
[22:56] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: BIOS code can be weird
[22:57] <amazoniantoad> i see
[22:57] <TJ-> amazoniantoad: don't expect logic to apply to firmware!
[22:58] <amazoniantoad> TJ-, not my form of logic
[22:59] <amazoniantoad> lol
[23:31] <sixie6e> amazoniantoad how long have you used linux
[23:54] <nordmike> I still have problems with redmine. It cannot use redmine-mysql for connecting to db. Here is output of apt install redmine-mysql redmine - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2H3YYNxv2h/.