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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> so it plasma 5.12.8 landed in bionic backports..... (I was looling all over for it)..... no issues with backport upgrade... :)02:51
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> s/so it/so it appears/03:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> 5.17 fixes a pet peave of mine when KDE 5.0 was introduced (as per this article: https://notmart.org/blog/2019/07/a-week-in-valencia/ and this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360478) \o/04:50
ubottuKDE bug 360478 in general "Desktop widgets are permanently repositioned when fullscreen games lower display resolution" [Major,Confirmed]04:50
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller, Thank, but is is the packages in the archive proposed pocket I really need to have verified07:05
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/181907507:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1819075 in user-manager (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for KDE's Plasma 5.12.8 for bionic" [Undecided,New]07:05
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa  the correct ppa to test?  When I added that ppa, no updates were found....15:01
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller The updates to test are in the proposed pocket of the main archive15:19
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/4:5.12.8-0ubuntu0.115:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> enable via the software-sources menu?15:20
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> yep15:20
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller, Probably as you have the backports ppa enabled? The versions in there are deliberately higher that the updates PPA or archive15:22
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> What really needs tesing here is a stock 18.04.2 install, updated without any PPAs, the the plasma in -proposed adding15:23
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Having the backports PPA on an install screws that up. This is a test of packages to go on 18.04.3 iso15:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> When enabled, 29 packages available for update but I was expecting more "plasma" specific packages: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PCC5N5WFdn/15:26
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller, Do you have the backports PPA on that install?15:26
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> You must have15:30
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> As i said above, the 5.12.8 version in the backports PPA are delibertely versioned higher than anything else. Having that enabled borks this test.15:32
IrcsomeBot* RikMills has to go for a few hrs15:32
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> back later15:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, so ppa purging and trying again....15:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ppa purge croaked... re-installing....15:46
IrcsomeBot<Santa> thanks for testing, I'm considering to do an upgrade round of all my VMs and test the proposed packages15:55
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Are you running 18.04 in your vm's?15:56
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I have everything supported with and without backports15:58
IrcsomeBot<Santa> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zm0WPn9k/file_16391.jpg15:59
IrcsomeBot<Santa> upgrading now, whenever I have some time I will try to test16:12
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> wow, that's an impressive VM list!16:19
IrcsomeBot<Santa> haha16:32
IrcsomeBot<Santa> btw I'm benchmarking area51 right now. I replaced the processor yesterday. I had to fix some bent pins 😱16:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> How much disk space is reserved for each VM?16:33
IrcsomeBot<Santa> 20G16:33
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I have all of that in the laptop, which has a 250G SSD and a 1TB classic magnetic hard disk for this kind of stuff16:34
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I replaced some time ago the CD/DVD drive with a caddy, so I have now these 2 devices16:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> What was the old processor and what is the new one?16:34
IrcsomeBot<Santa> the old processor from area51 was a phenom II x4, the "new" one is a second hand amd fx 410016:35
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I changed it to have one with proper security support16:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Rik, the 180.4 staging upgrade to 12.8 worked flawlessly here.  No issues running basic tests...16:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> According to this website, the 4100 is a slower CPU.... https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-FX-4100/606vs287816:40
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I guess, but I got it just to get microcode updates16:41
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I could get a six core or eight core fx which would be faster than this fx 4100, but that might alter the memory peaks when building in parallel so I got this one to be conservative wrt that16:42
IrcsomeBot<Santa> also it was just 20€16:43
IrcsomeBot<Santa> cheap as hell XD16:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> oh wow, that is cheap!16:43
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller, Once again, it is the paackages in the main archive that need testing, not PPAs16:44
IrcsomeBot<Santa> that phenom was 100€ back in the days16:44
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @RikMills, how are we suposed to test this, just adding -proposed to sources or what?16:44
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> RIk, no PPAs added after re-install. I only used the proposed option.16:45
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @Santa, Yes, and then selectively upgrading the new plasma packages.16:46
IrcsomeBot<Santa> how you do the selection?16:46
IrcsomeBot* DarinMiller tested the entire enchilada....16:47
IrcsomeBot<Santa> (I suspect I have a better way to do the "selection"...)16:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> everything is working... but I can retest with fresh install if needed.16:48
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @Santa, I just install synaptic, search for all packages with version 5.12, and then in the result list right click to upgrade ones where there is a new 5.12.8 version to upgrade to16:48
IrcsomeBot<Santa> allright, I have a better way in mind, I will try to come up with a better idea later16:49
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @Santa, Yeah, I am sure some scripting can do a better job16:50
IrcsomeBot<Santa> Yeah, I was thinking in composing with some scriptery an apt pinning file using what we have in ka-metadata16:51
IrcsomeBot<Santa> If I'm speaking chinese just wait to see the thing XD16:51
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Nah. I Know what you mean. I'm just lazy. If it had been a 200+ source apps release I might have tried to script it!16:53
IrcsomeBot<Santa> ok16:53
IrcsomeBot<Santa> another option would be creating a reprepro repository with a literal copy of the involved packages16:54
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> While we know that would be ok, release team would I think be not impressed.16:57
IrcsomeBot<Santa> so better the apt pinning I guess16:57
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I can vouch that the enitre proposed stack is working fine here...16:58
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @Santa, I think so16:58
IrcsomeBot<Santa> ok, so from there, I could write a script to generate the file automatically and attach it to the SRU bug report16:59
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> That would be cool17:00
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @DarinMiller http://tritemio-area51.ddns.net/benchmark/test-compilacion/composite.xml18:46
IrcsomeBot<Santa> the results of that benchmark18:47
IrcsomeBot<Santa> not a catastrophic difference given with microcode security patched is suposed to perform worse18:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Agreed, fairly close.  Is compilacion-malvo also yours?18:50
IrcsomeBot<Santa> yes18:51
IrcsomeBot<Santa> malvo is the laptop, compilacion-groomlake-xxx are tests in the other server, tested 3 different bios settings18:52

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