IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> so it plasma 5.12.8 landed in bionic backports..... (I was looling all over for it)..... no issues with backport upgrade... :) | 02:51 |
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IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> s/so it/so it appears/ | 03:32 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> 5.17 fixes a pet peave of mine when KDE 5.0 was introduced (as per this article: https://notmart.org/blog/2019/07/a-week-in-valencia/ and this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360478) \o/ | 04:50 |
ubottu | KDE bug 360478 in general "Desktop widgets are permanently repositioned when fullscreen games lower display resolution" [Major,Confirmed] | 04:50 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @DarinMiller, Thank, but is is the packages in the archive proposed pocket I really need to have verified | 07:05 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1819075 | 07:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1819075 in user-manager (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for KDE's Plasma 5.12.8 for bionic" [Undecided,New] | 07:05 |
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IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa the correct ppa to test? When I added that ppa, no updates were found.... | 15:01 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @DarinMiller The updates to test are in the proposed pocket of the main archive | 15:19 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/4:5.12.8-0ubuntu0.1 | 15:19 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> enable via the software-sources menu? | 15:20 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> yep | 15:20 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @DarinMiller, Probably as you have the backports ppa enabled? The versions in there are deliberately higher that the updates PPA or archive | 15:22 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> What really needs tesing here is a stock 18.04.2 install, updated without any PPAs, the the plasma in -proposed adding | 15:23 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Having the backports PPA on an install screws that up. This is a test of packages to go on 18.04.3 iso | 15:25 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> When enabled, 29 packages available for update but I was expecting more "plasma" specific packages: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PCC5N5WFdn/ | 15:26 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @DarinMiller, Do you have the backports PPA on that install? | 15:26 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> You must have | 15:30 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> As i said above, the 5.12.8 version in the backports PPA are delibertely versioned higher than anything else. Having that enabled borks this test. | 15:32 |
IrcsomeBot | * RikMills has to go for a few hrs | 15:32 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> back later | 15:32 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> OK, so ppa purging and trying again.... | 15:37 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> ppa purge croaked... re-installing.... | 15:46 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> thanks for testing, I'm considering to do an upgrade round of all my VMs and test the proposed packages | 15:55 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Are you running 18.04 in your vm's? | 15:56 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I have everything supported with and without backports | 15:58 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zm0WPn9k/file_16391.jpg | 15:59 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> upgrading now, whenever I have some time I will try to test | 16:12 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> wow, that's an impressive VM list! | 16:19 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> haha | 16:32 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> btw I'm benchmarking area51 right now. I replaced the processor yesterday. I had to fix some bent pins 😱 | 16:33 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> How much disk space is reserved for each VM? | 16:33 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> 20G | 16:33 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I have all of that in the laptop, which has a 250G SSD and a 1TB classic magnetic hard disk for this kind of stuff | 16:34 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I replaced some time ago the CD/DVD drive with a caddy, so I have now these 2 devices | 16:34 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> What was the old processor and what is the new one? | 16:34 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> the old processor from area51 was a phenom II x4, the "new" one is a second hand amd fx 4100 | 16:35 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I changed it to have one with proper security support | 16:36 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Rik, the 180.4 staging upgrade to 12.8 worked flawlessly here. No issues running basic tests... | 16:36 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> According to this website, the 4100 is a slower CPU.... https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-FX-4100/606vs2878 | 16:40 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I guess, but I got it just to get microcode updates | 16:41 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I could get a six core or eight core fx which would be faster than this fx 4100, but that might alter the memory peaks when building in parallel so I got this one to be conservative wrt that | 16:42 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> also it was just 20€ | 16:43 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> cheap as hell XD | 16:43 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> oh wow, that is cheap! | 16:43 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @DarinMiller, Once again, it is the paackages in the main archive that need testing, not PPAs | 16:44 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> that phenom was 100€ back in the days | 16:44 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> @RikMills, how are we suposed to test this, just adding -proposed to sources or what? | 16:44 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> RIk, no PPAs added after re-install. I only used the proposed option. | 16:45 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @Santa, Yes, and then selectively upgrading the new plasma packages. | 16:46 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> how you do the selection? | 16:46 |
IrcsomeBot | * DarinMiller tested the entire enchilada.... | 16:47 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> (I suspect I have a better way to do the "selection"...) | 16:48 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> everything is working... but I can retest with fresh install if needed. | 16:48 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @Santa, I just install synaptic, search for all packages with version 5.12, and then in the result list right click to upgrade ones where there is a new 5.12.8 version to upgrade to | 16:48 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> allright, I have a better way in mind, I will try to come up with a better idea later | 16:49 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @Santa, Yeah, I am sure some scripting can do a better job | 16:50 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> Yeah, I was thinking in composing with some scriptery an apt pinning file using what we have in ka-metadata | 16:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> If I'm speaking chinese just wait to see the thing XD | 16:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Nah. I Know what you mean. I'm just lazy. If it had been a 200+ source apps release I might have tried to script it! | 16:53 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> ok | 16:53 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> another option would be creating a reprepro repository with a literal copy of the involved packages | 16:54 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> While we know that would be ok, release team would I think be not impressed. | 16:57 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> so better the apt pinning I guess | 16:57 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> I can vouch that the enitre proposed stack is working fine here... | 16:58 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> @Santa, I think so | 16:58 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> ok, so from there, I could write a script to generate the file automatically and attach it to the SRU bug report | 16:59 |
IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> That would be cool | 17:00 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> @DarinMiller http://tritemio-area51.ddns.net/benchmark/test-compilacion/composite.xml | 18:46 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> the results of that benchmark | 18:47 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> not a catastrophic difference given with microcode security patched is suposed to perform worse | 18:48 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Agreed, fairly close. Is compilacion-malvo also yours? | 18:50 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> yes | 18:51 |
IrcsomeBot | <Santa> malvo is the laptop, compilacion-groomlake-xxx are tests in the other server, tested 3 different bios settings | 18:52 |
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