[02:51] so it plasma 5.12.8 landed in bionic backports..... (I was looling all over for it)..... no issues with backport upgrade... :) [03:32] s/so it/so it appears/ [04:50] 5.17 fixes a pet peave of mine when KDE 5.0 was introduced (as per this article: https://notmart.org/blog/2019/07/a-week-in-valencia/ and this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360478) \o/ [04:50] KDE bug 360478 in general "Desktop widgets are permanently repositioned when fullscreen games lower display resolution" [Major,Confirmed] [07:05] @DarinMiller, Thank, but is is the packages in the archive proposed pocket I really need to have verified [07:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1819075 [07:05] Launchpad bug 1819075 in user-manager (Ubuntu) "SRU tracking bug for KDE's Plasma 5.12.8 for bionic" [Undecided,New] [08:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #3065: SUCCESS in 58 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/3065/ === jmux_ is now known as jmux [08:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #3065: SUCCESS in 1 min 56 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/3065/ [08:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #3065: SUCCESS in 4 min 31 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/3065/ [14:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #3066: SUCCESS in 52 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/3066/ [14:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #3066: SUCCESS in 1 min 28 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/3066/ [14:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #3066: SUCCESS in 4 min 18 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/3066/ [15:01] Is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa the correct ppa to test? When I added that ppa, no updates were found.... [15:19] @DarinMiller The updates to test are in the proposed pocket of the main archive [15:19] example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/4:5.12.8-0ubuntu0.1 [15:20] enable via the software-sources menu? [15:20] yep [15:22] @DarinMiller, Probably as you have the backports ppa enabled? The versions in there are deliberately higher that the updates PPA or archive [15:23] What really needs tesing here is a stock 18.04.2 install, updated without any PPAs, the the plasma in -proposed adding [15:25] Having the backports PPA on an install screws that up. This is a test of packages to go on 18.04.3 iso [15:26] When enabled, 29 packages available for update but I was expecting more "plasma" specific packages: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PCC5N5WFdn/ [15:26] @DarinMiller, Do you have the backports PPA on that install? [15:30] You must have [15:32] As i said above, the 5.12.8 version in the backports PPA are delibertely versioned higher than anything else. Having that enabled borks this test. [15:32] * RikMills has to go for a few hrs [15:32] back later [15:37] OK, so ppa purging and trying again.... [15:46] ppa purge croaked... re-installing.... [15:55] thanks for testing, I'm considering to do an upgrade round of all my VMs and test the proposed packages [15:56] Are you running 18.04 in your vm's? [15:58] I have everything supported with and without backports [15:59] (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zm0WPn9k/file_16391.jpg [16:12] upgrading now, whenever I have some time I will try to test [16:19] wow, that's an impressive VM list! [16:32] haha [16:33] btw I'm benchmarking area51 right now. I replaced the processor yesterday. I had to fix some bent pins 😱 [16:33] How much disk space is reserved for each VM? [16:33] 20G [16:34] I have all of that in the laptop, which has a 250G SSD and a 1TB classic magnetic hard disk for this kind of stuff [16:34] I replaced some time ago the CD/DVD drive with a caddy, so I have now these 2 devices [16:34] What was the old processor and what is the new one? [16:35] the old processor from area51 was a phenom II x4, the "new" one is a second hand amd fx 4100 [16:36] I changed it to have one with proper security support [16:36] Rik, the 180.4 staging upgrade to 12.8 worked flawlessly here. No issues running basic tests... [16:40] According to this website, the 4100 is a slower CPU.... https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-FX-4100/606vs2878 [16:41] I guess, but I got it just to get microcode updates [16:42] I could get a six core or eight core fx which would be faster than this fx 4100, but that might alter the memory peaks when building in parallel so I got this one to be conservative wrt that [16:43] also it was just 20€ [16:43] cheap as hell XD [16:43] oh wow, that is cheap! [16:44] @DarinMiller, Once again, it is the paackages in the main archive that need testing, not PPAs [16:44] that phenom was 100€ back in the days [16:44] @RikMills, how are we suposed to test this, just adding -proposed to sources or what? [16:45] RIk, no PPAs added after re-install. I only used the proposed option. [16:46] @Santa, Yes, and then selectively upgrading the new plasma packages. [16:46] how you do the selection? [16:47] * DarinMiller tested the entire enchilada.... [16:48] (I suspect I have a better way to do the "selection"...) [16:48] everything is working... but I can retest with fresh install if needed. [16:48] @Santa, I just install synaptic, search for all packages with version 5.12, and then in the result list right click to upgrade ones where there is a new 5.12.8 version to upgrade to [16:49] allright, I have a better way in mind, I will try to come up with a better idea later [16:50] @Santa, Yeah, I am sure some scripting can do a better job [16:51] Yeah, I was thinking in composing with some scriptery an apt pinning file using what we have in ka-metadata [16:51] If I'm speaking chinese just wait to see the thing XD [16:53] Nah. I Know what you mean. I'm just lazy. If it had been a 200+ source apps release I might have tried to script it! [16:53] ok [16:54] another option would be creating a reprepro repository with a literal copy of the involved packages [16:57] While we know that would be ok, release team would I think be not impressed. [16:57] so better the apt pinning I guess [16:58] I can vouch that the enitre proposed stack is working fine here... [16:58] @Santa, I think so [16:59] ok, so from there, I could write a script to generate the file automatically and attach it to the SRU bug report [17:00] That would be cool [18:46] @DarinMiller http://tritemio-area51.ddns.net/benchmark/test-compilacion/composite.xml [18:47] the results of that benchmark [18:48] not a catastrophic difference given with microcode security patched is suposed to perform worse [18:50] Agreed, fairly close. Is compilacion-malvo also yours? [18:51] yes [18:52] malvo is the laptop, compilacion-groomlake-xxx are tests in the other server, tested 3 different bios settings