[00:01] Can someone tell me if Ubuntu 18.04 installs MySQL or MariaDB when you do a package install for "mysql-server" ? [00:01] I'd also appreciate any feelings you folks might have on MariaDB versus MySQL [00:02] hi everyone, Im trying to also join #linux but it keeps saying you have to be invited . Where do you get an invite ? [00:02] nordmike: Get any additional hints ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure redmine ' ? [00:03] Bashing-om: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: redmine is broken or not fully installed [00:04] !register | N26pmXWs [00:04] N26pmXWs: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [00:04] I registered this nick and identified with nickserv already though, is there another step bashing-om ? [00:05] N26pmXWs: try as ##linux . [00:06] lol Ive never joined the channel and get message Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned [00:06] is it because of using irccloud ? [00:07] sixie6e, solved the problem. safeboot was on [00:07] nordmike: Naybe then try as ' sudo apt install --reinstall redmine ' ? - "apt depends redmine" shows a lot of dependencies on ruby too. [00:08] N26pmXWs: Cannot say .. might get better answer in the #freenode support channel. [00:09] Bashing-om: E: Internal Error, No file name for redmine:amd64 [00:10] nordmike: Yukkie ! "apt list redmine >> redmine/bionic,bionic 3.4.4-1 all " . So it is there in bionic ! [00:11] Yes, and it's installed: redmine/bionic,bionic,now 3.4.4-1 all [installed] [00:11] nordmike: "apt show redmine" shows it is in the universe repo - insure that the universe repo is enabled on your system. [00:12] secureboot is often a problem amazoniantoad [00:12] nordmike: Humm .. chasing our tail here but what does the package manager say ' dpkg -l redmine ' ? [00:13] amazoniantoad glad you got it worked out [00:13] sixie6e, thanks [00:19] Bashing-om: There are universe in /etc/apt/sources.list. [00:21] Bashing-om: dpkg -l redmine - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YGfr5J9vbR/ [00:23] nordmike: Well ! "rc redmine" the rc means the package has been (r)emoved but (c)onfig files remain. So what is the end goal you are working toward ? [00:46] hey all, installing ubuntu on my thinkpad, its going to be used for devops, im not sure if i should to LTS or 19.04. Any reason to not go 19.04 or reason to go 19.04? [00:47] wyseguy: I would suggest LTS for stability and long term support. 19.04 will be unsupported in January [00:48] wyseguy: Development means long term stability, And that is presently 18.04 LTS. [00:48] okay thanks, I was leaning that way... LTS. I dont need little bugs to keep me from being productive [00:48] thanks guys [01:10] why am i seeing a swapfile in my home directory when i use ls?? trying to remove it reports it doesn't exist [01:11] and what's with this? du: cannot read directory '/home/gallomimia/.dbus': Permission denied [01:11] that file also does not exist [01:12] ubuntu 19.04 not pleased with file tools which lie [01:13] oh the swapfile is at root. why does this file keep reappearing?? [01:16] Hi guys, I need help with a slow boot on a pretty fresh Ubuntu install. I have a clean install, no dual boot. I have an SSD drive with an EFI partition and a root partition for system. My HDD is for data only. [01:16] sda [01:16] ├─sda1 vfat 30F9-5EDA /boot/efi [01:16] └─sda2 ext4 8d11d65a-589b-4a32-a307-36e58774a70b / [01:16] sdb [01:16] └─sdb1 ext4 fec56a2e-3459-4fdf-936f-637a1f7cf596 [01:16] do you know what is slow about it? [01:17] systemd-analyze blame first two rows are: [01:17] 34.780s dev-sda2.device [01:17] 34.386s apparmor.service [01:17] I've spent about 5 hours to solve this, without success. Any help would be much appreciated! [01:20] hmm, how do i logrotate files who's names i dont know exactly. like a /var/log/somedir/2019-07-03-app.log ? and rsyslog is changing it every aday [01:21] it's not rsyslog picking those bad names, it's the dameon [01:22] Gallomimia, is this information helpful? [01:22] well maybe it's me since i made a template for that logger in rsyslog.conf, $template RemoteHost,"/var/log/remote_hosts/%HOSTNAME%/%$YEAR%-%$MONTH%-%$DAY%-%HOSTNAME%.log". maybe i need to start fixing this issue there tomreyn [01:22] rumini: post both systemd-analyze blame and systemd-analyze critical-chain [01:23] and have logrotate append the date/time when it rotates [01:23] if you have logs that have date in the filename, do you really need to rotate them? [01:23] rumini, i don't know much about all that at all really. it looks like your data drive is not mounted at all? [01:23] Gallomimia , I just want to compress them. i guess I just take an approach w/ find, crontab and gzip [01:23] xibalba: or not have the dates on it in the first place? [01:23] thats a good point Gallomimia [01:24] i should think you can run a crontab with the program date. zip $(date dddmmyy) [01:24] https://pastebin.com/QbWkpyP7 and https://pastebin.com/9RFBQ50q [01:24] you can have rsyslog just compress files without rotating them if you want to. [01:25] oh? let me look that up in the man page [01:25] so, blame has given you a report that app armor is hanging things up? rumini? [01:26] rumini: do you have custom apparmor configurations then? this is definitely not standard. [01:26] Gallomimia, apparmor and sda2 service [01:26] tomreyn, I didn't customize anything [01:27] If anyone running ubuntu 18.04 (or similar) used the adb/fastboot for their own stuff, I have a weird problem, pasted here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KyCvcDbNxg/ [01:27] rumini: is the system fully updated? do you have third party repositories or software configured / installed [01:27] used = uses [01:29] tomreyn it is updated, and I added third party ppa only recently [01:29] but the slow boot existed from the very beginning, just didn't have time to figure it out [01:30] rumini: can you post your system logs journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:31] tomreyn, https://termbin.com/4axkf [01:31] xibalba: you'd have something like /var/log/somedir/*.log { compress } (but not "rotate") === zbenjamin is now known as Guest47895 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:37] tomreyn, is it useful? [01:39] rumini: yes, see this and following lines júl 06 03:10:07 rumini-ubu kernel: watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 23s! [nvidia-smi:440] [01:39] what's with all that about the RAM [01:39] rumini: the nvidia driver is causing issues. [01:40] and can this have an effect on the sda2 device and apparmor..? [01:40] it doesn't seem to be related [01:41] rumini: i'm more inclined to trust your kernel log on the causes than systemd-analyze [01:42] I have nvidia-driver-390 to my GM107 video card. I choosed that driver over nvidia-340 only because the 390 is tested. I change to the earlier one and reboot... [01:42] you don't want 430? [01:43] it's not offered by default - is it okay to download it from nvidia website? [01:43] rumini: if you look at the lines surrounding the kernel module trace, you'll notice 'audit' (apparmor_parser) records both before and after this, which is what i think made systemd incorrectly attribute the time to apparmor [01:44] no it is not okay to download from the nvidia website. we use the graphics-drivers ppa [01:44] you have an intel CPU with integrated graphics? [01:45] does Ubuntu 18 have a MySQL 8 package? [01:46] júl 06 03:10:18 rumini-ubu kernel: WARNING: kernel stack frame pointer at (____ptrval____) in nvidia-smi:440 has bad value (____ptrval____) [01:47] Gallomimia, I added the ppa and changed to 430. I have i5-4590 cpu. [01:49] can deja dup be used to create a backup of lubuntu 18.10 on an external USB, then replace the OS via USB with 18.04.2, then restore the backed up files and settings? or will it not work because it's two different OS versions? [01:49] !YY.MM | sneakyimp [01:49] sneakyimp: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [01:49] lspci shows 2 VGA controller, the NVIDIA and the Intel one. [01:49] I got a question [01:49] !ask [01:49] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [01:50] i don't know much about having mixed GPU's but i've heard they can cause problems with each other [01:50] if you accidentally typed my password into the user name but I didn't press enter should I change my password? [01:50] !info mysql-server-5.7 | sneakyimp No, default:: [01:50] sneakyimp No, default::: mysql-server-5.7 (source: mysql-5.7): MySQL database server binaries and system database setup. In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.26-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 3189 kB, installed size 46018 kB [01:50] usney, it's probably still safe [01:51] okay cool thanks Gallomimia [01:52] rumini: if you were so far using the nvidia driver installed by the ubuntu software / updates utility, you should report a bug. [01:53] seems really odd. tomreyn do those messages about ram testing look normal to you? [01:55] Gallomimia: i've seen them before but it's not very common. [01:56] note those lines, i think it's related: [01:56] i guess it all happens really quickly. the first 5 pages or so are all within 1 second [01:56] júl 06 03:09:43 rumini-ubu kernel: mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value [01:56] júl 06 03:09:43 rumini-ubu kernel: please specify mtrr_gran_size/mtrr_chunk_size [01:56] yeah that part seemed odd [01:56] also: júl 06 03:10:18 rumini-ubu kernel: CPU: 3 PID: 440 Comm: nvidia-smi Tainted: P OE 4.18.0-25-generic #26~18.04.1-Ubuntu [01:57] this part we already discussed [01:57] and then at the end it says shutting down adapter [01:57] rumini: if you were so far using the nvidia driver installed by the ubuntu software / updates utility, you should report a bug. [01:58] include this kernal log i assume [01:58] Gallomimia, tomreyn thank you very much for your help, changing the nvidia driver solved the problem! [01:58] no way really? [01:58] yep [01:59] boot time was around 2 minutes, now under a half [01:59] well. it's still a really bad deal for ubuntu as a whole if the latest LTS has a serious boot problem in its default software [01:59] the devs and the users would appreciate a bug submission [01:59] I'm not sure if the driver was enabled by default... [02:00] i don't think so either. it says near the end of that log you posted it disabled and then shutdown the whole device [02:00] uhm. is this a laptop or a desktop? [02:00] can deja dup be used to backup files and settings from 18.10 to be restored after replacing the OS with 18.04? (lubuntu) [02:00] it's a desktop [02:01] well then the ultimate question: what adaptor is your display connected to?? [02:02] sappheiros, sorry but i don't know the answer. i do know however, that it's usually a really bad idea to hold onto any settings files from one release to another. [02:03] it's a dvi-hdmi cable (if I understood your question) [02:03] i wouldn't even recommend using do-release-upgrade to install a new one [02:03] rumini, you did not. is it plugged into the motherboard or the display adapter? [02:03] * sappheiros is not familiar with do-release-upgrade [02:03] it's a tool to update, for example from 18.04 to 18.10 [02:04] i highly recommend a clean install for a new release. from personal experience [02:04] can I check it without opening the computer? [02:04] yes. look at the back [02:04] your graphics card is separate from the motherboard, yes? [02:04] yes [02:04] okay [02:05] there's a port on the motherboard, to use the intel GPU [02:05] and then... there's the graphics card. which is nvidia [02:05] guess which one you want to use? [02:05] I want to use the nvidia card [02:05] so. plug it into that port [02:06] a GPU on a dedicated graphics card doesn't get to play with the ports on the motherboard [02:07] I think it's there... there are 3 dvi ports. The first one is next to the usb ports, ps2 port, etc. I guess that'd be the motherboard, right? [02:07] right [02:07] Now my monitor is plugged into the second dvi port [02:08] the card has a slot that's perpendicular to the motherboard === inisheer_ is now known as inisheer [02:08] and then you might see a bunch of other "blank" slots with metal plates covering them [02:08] rumini: so you installed a different nvidia driver now, can you show another log? journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:09] rumini, http://bucarotechelp.com/computers/anatomy/images/backpanel.jpg [02:09] https://termbin.com/in3ua [02:09] see the computer here? it has onboard video only [02:10] Gallomimia: http://my-fuzzy-logic.de/blog/index.php?/archives/41-Solving-linux-MTRR-problems.html is useful for understanding the many lines starting "gran_size" (and sometimes *BAD*) [02:10] and then you can see the slots at the bottom [02:10] Where ubuntu send prints when I press printscreen? It seems its not in the clipboard. It makes a camera click sound but its not in clipboard accordingly gimp [02:10] DanDare, it's in home/Pictures [02:11] Gallomimia, I have 2 slots down there. [02:11] nice! thanks Gallomimia [02:11] rumini, https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/old-computer-case-back-side-atx-white-background-67863693.jpg here's one with a dedicated graphics card. and also a LAN card, and one blank is missing [02:11] most modern graphics cards are double-wide [02:12] rumini: okay the memory allocation issue is still present, this is probably a firmware issue with either the mainboard of graphics card. we can try to work around it. can you show cat /proc/mtrr | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:12] so they take up two slots, and have ports on both sometimes [02:12] https://termbin.com/1qzx === BrianG61UK__ is now known as BrianG61UK [02:16] rumini: run gedit admin:///etc/default/grub [02:16] at this point i want to recall if i've seen anyone disable their integrated GPU and run only the dedicated [02:17] rumini: then look for the line starting GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= [02:18] rumini: then place this in the quotes (append adding a blank space if something is already there): mtrr_spare_reg_nr=1 mtrr_gran_size=64M mtrr_chunk_size=64 [02:19] I have 2 lines starting with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= [02:19] GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`" [02:19] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" [02:19] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" [02:19] any of them got # at the start? [02:19] no [02:19] nope. that last one is NOT default [02:19] rumini: no, you only have one line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= [02:20] rumini: after editing, save the file and close the editor. if any errors occur, point them out. otherwise, run: sudo update-grub and reboot [02:20] what's with my ls command giving things with ' ' single quotes around them? [02:20] oh, you are right, sorry, it's 4 am here :) [02:21] Gallomimia: those will be file system objects contaiing special characters such as blanks [02:21] they're mp3's [02:21] and it's.... ALL of them. dirs too [02:21] post one example [02:22] ah. there's one that isn't. its like the only thing with no special chars [02:22] space is a special char [02:22] 'Unknown Artist' [02:22] yep [02:23] k. the only ones with no single quotes have single words and no special characters [02:23] which in a music collection is very rare [02:24] it's not uncommon to replace blank spaces by underscores. [02:24] break all fingers of ye who does this. [02:24] tomreyn, rebooted, the log is here: https://termbin.com/s407 [02:25] finally used jdupes to remove.... i think a complete duplication of my whole collection [02:25] almost complete [02:25] except for a few files that are missing blocks in the middle of songs [02:26] those are easy tho, since they're actually smaller in size [02:26] and i think only an album or so [02:27] good job tomreyn. that log file looks a lot prettier [02:27] rumini: looks like we worked around your bios bug successfully. if you'll run into massive graphics issues (stalls, screen going dark etc., system reboots during heavy graphics operation) you should revisit these kernel parameters we set in /etc/default/grub now. [02:27] absolutely, thank you :)) [02:28] one more thing about the DVI port you're plugged into rumini. there's a section of the port that has a block of 4 larger pins. the port without those is the digital, and the one with them is analog [02:28] rumini: there's a "beta" bios which is one version above the oner you have now. might be worth a try if you can find a way to upgrade it (may involve booting / installing Ms Windows). [02:28] depending on your display, you probably want digital [02:28] https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B85M-D3H-A-rev-10#support-dl-bios [02:29] gigabyte boards usually have an in-bios upgrade system. mine does [02:29] did not need to muck around to update it [02:29] put the update file on a USB stick and did it all from inside bios [02:30] tomreyn, I did a bios update on my previous pc, even installed win, and it became a brick... [02:30] LOL! okay then [02:30] might not want to go that route just yet [02:30] yep, it would hurt :) [02:30] rumini: up to you. if it works fine as it is, just keep it that way. [02:31] Gallomimia, I have a big monitor and my roommates like to play games - so digital should be fine, right? [02:31] you loose some RAM now, but not much [02:31] uh. its better, i think. only if your monitor handles it. it should [02:31] my big monitor is actually DisplayPort [02:32] "losing 94MB of RAM" [02:32] my small monitor is hooked up with DVI. and my tv upon which i show the chat, is HDMI [02:33] Now I see errors regarding the nvidia driver... It seems that it's not active, as there are missing dependencies... [02:33] hm. that doesn't agree with your kernel log [02:33] try running nvidia-settings [02:34] It shows 430.26 [02:34] and.... it's on? and active? [02:34] the nvidia settings app is a graphical program [02:35] yes I know [02:35] There are lot of info here, but I don't see if it's active or not [02:36] i think.... click GPU0 [02:36] I did [02:37] it shows Display Devices at the bottom? [02:37] yes. the monitor [02:37] and then the name of your monitor. brand and model [02:37] yes it does [02:37] and in brackets (how its connected) [02:37] DVI-D-0 probably? [02:37] yes, dvi-d-0 [02:37] :) [02:37] seems pretty golden to me [02:38] what's GPU utilization say? [02:38] 0% [02:38] does it have PowerMizer on the left? [02:38] yes [02:38] does it show your performance level? [02:39] yes [02:39] there are level 0 and 1 [02:39] 1 is greyed out [02:39] that means its at 0 [02:39] slower clock speed because you're not doing anything hefty [02:40] i believe it's time to fire up a game and "test" it for an hour or two [02:41] Question about the use of the DISPLAY variable: I usually open videos on a 18.04 thats connected to my TV. If i SSH in and set DIPLAY to :0 i get mpv playing on the remote computer. But it looks like it just open the video on the TV diplay in window mode if that where it was open last. If i open with the -fs parameter it just fullscreen on the laptop not on the computer. How can i force it to use the external [02:41] screen? [02:41] *not on the connected TV [02:42] when I click on "Fix broken packages" in synaptic, it wants to install libnvidia-gl-430. But it can not, as it comes back with an error: "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libnvidia-gl-430_430.26-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1_amd64.deb: new libnvidia-gl-430:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 2" [02:46] https://termbin.com/v7ha [02:46] That's the error message when I try to fix with apt. [02:47] a dpkg --fix-dependencies might be in order? [02:48] this command doesn't work [02:48] unknown options [02:48] *option [02:49] i guess i forget exactly how it goes [02:50] rumini: can you post the output of this? sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 rumini: oh and before you run this, run this: [02:51] export LANG=C [02:51] Hello [02:52] hi jojero [02:52] https://termbin.com/ng4uv [02:52] I am doing a kernel driver tutorial the author provided an image file I need to install the drivers into this image file. If I mount it there is no space on it. So it seems like I need to enlarge the base image file first. [02:52] I was just trying to investigate what file system is on the image file [02:53] fdisk -L says the filesystem type is "Linux" [02:53] I am familianr with ext2, ext4 etc. but what is the "Linux" file system and how do you resize it [02:54] rumini: run this, copy and paste the output to a !pastebin : sudo apt --fix-broken install [02:54] rumini: ... on the same terminal window, or on a new one but then run export LANG=C again [02:55] Hello ... what steps need to be taken to add the old repository (I don't know specific terms) to Ubuntu 14.04 so I can update packages. Can someone link me to the web page discussing that please? [02:55] aiena: fdisk handled partition tables, not file systems [02:56] aiena, linux file system is usually ext. probably version 4. it's quite easy to resize. i recommend following a tutorial, find with google [02:56] !eol | anydomain [02:56] anydomain: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [02:56] tomreyn Im having a problem Im not sure if its because terminal is small. But I can't see the git branch display. [02:57] anydomain: 14.04 is EOL, not supported here. we can only help you do an unsupported !eolupgrade [02:57] I understand that ubottu, but i need specific information ... :) [02:57] https://pastebin.com/ccnyXh4R tomreyn [02:57] !eolupgrade [02:57] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [02:57] end of life is just that. end of life [02:57] Understand tomreyn, but can you at least point me to the repository I need to add? [02:58] tomreyn: , Gallomimia my difficult is how to resize the file [02:58] anydomain: you are probably lucky and can just upgrade by running do-release-upgrade [02:58] I don't understand losetup well there is a -c option [02:58] no, I need to add the repository which name has eluded me ... [02:58] do I need to use that to resize the file [02:59] trusty tahr === [b0b] is now known as b0b [03:00] Yes, for trusty tahr gallomimia. [03:00] the image is DOS/MBR boot img and the first partition starts at 63 with sector size of 512 so I mount it with an offset of 512*63 but I dont't know how to resize the image file and the filesystem on it [03:00] rumini: which driver do you want to (try to) use, nvidia-340 or nvidia-418? [03:00] it easy to find instructions to resize the fs but i don't know the first step i.e. resizing the lo device safely [03:00] *the file [03:01] anydomain: does "sudo apt-get update" print errors at this time? [03:02] Yes, indeed. Because the files have been moved to a different location by Canonical. [03:02] tomreyn, 430 [03:02] rumini: then switch to a !tty and run sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-340* [03:02] due to eol ... my question is where ? Not like this is a secret ... this channel has answered this question in the past. [03:03] i can't say it more than one more time anydomain. it's time to upgrade. in fact i strongly recommend a clean install. back up your files before something you do causes loss [03:03] anydomain: can you show this: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 Gallomimia .. with all due respect, no crap. You do not know nor do I care to explain the underlying issue ... but if you want me to waste the time doing so, I can. [03:04] anydomain: the only reason i'm offering to help here is because you'll need a working apt to carry out a release upgrade from an EOL release. [03:04] tomreyn: thanks for the tips [03:05] thank you tomreyn [03:05] with the same amount of respect, not explaining the issue is not going to get you anywhere. wasting time is for sure [03:05] it seems like the img file has a DOS partition table and one ext2 file system as found out by using "lsblk -f" after mounting it. [03:06] i in fact have an old install of 14.04 on this machine. i tried messing with it to get it working. in the end it was easier to drop a different HD in and clean install on that. [03:06] aiena: is this maybe a homework assignment? [03:06] Many suggest using dd and adding some data to the end of file [03:06] tomreyn, it says that it's not installed so it ignores the command [03:06] ah that's a decent option [03:06] tomreyn: self assigned homework [03:06] but I am struggling with it I am not an engineering student [03:07] rumini: please post the url returned by : dpkg -l *nvidia* |& nc termbin.com 9999 [03:07] tomreyn: I am trying to follow along with a driver tutorial and that person uses qemu his commands are not working [03:07] aiena: is this actually about ubuntu? [03:07] so I am trying to see how I can make the image larger so his commands work I am self learning [03:08] tomreyn: I don't know I am on an ubuntu system and only use ubuntu [03:08] i think its more of a general linux question non distro specific though [03:08] Hi, i just done a rootkit checker scan and it says these folders/files are suspicious :- https://pastebin.com/gxvJgY2t [03:09] aiena: i think so, too. it's not really an ubuntu support issue, which this channel is about. maybe ask in ##linux rather [03:09] https://termbin.com/v5b8 [03:09] gallomimia and tomreyn ... the end user has to update those packages so that he can upgrade the software so that he can upgrade OS .... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W7d5K93T3P/ [03:09] aiena: but feel free to re-ask here and provide command output on a !pastebin if you can't get help there [03:10] I need to head out now. I was trying to resolve it here after trying a lot by myself. But later maybe. Thank you/ [03:11] Ahh finally, I stumbled upon my own answer ... for your knowledge gallomimia .... https://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release [03:12] rumini: pass all the packages containing "390" listed on this output on lines starting with either "rc" or "ii" as additional arguments to this command and show the full resulting command you ran and its output: sudo dpkg -P [03:13] anydomain: what you posted is not the output of the commands i suggested you to run. [03:13] I cannot run that as I am not the end user. tomreyn [03:13] i conveniently enough named my install LV's after the release codename. i was just looking at them a few minutes ago [03:14] anydomain: what are you then? [03:15] and now i have to delete my old installs and copy my current on inside my LVM container [03:15] the guy trying to walk the end user through this clusterfu&& that he caused by not upgrading his sh!t before it became EoL. [03:15] anydomain: by doing what's written on this askubuntu answer you'll break updates on this system. [03:16] quite an involved process. anyone feel like holding my hand thru a bunch of changes to my fstab and such? [03:16] is it still crypttab for automounting LUKS containers? [03:18] Gallomimia: yes, this is still configured in /etc/crypttab. i won't walk you through it right now, though, need some sleep soon. [03:19] yeah i think me too [03:19] i have to copy home out of the way first... [03:20] don't drink and root. applies to very-tired also [03:22] rumini: any luck with this, did i express myself well enough? [03:23] yes [03:23] here is the new list: https://termbin.com/u1fj5 [03:23] but I got the same error messages [03:24] tomreyn --- breaking updates to fix updates is a good trade off in this circumstance. [03:24] rumini: looks good, i think you can run sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install again now [03:24] same error [03:25] backup files and clean install, before it goes REALLY wrong. [03:25] anydomain: what i mean is that you'll effectively break apt, previnting installation of any packages, not just updates, not just preventing the release upgrade [03:25] rumini: can i see it again, though? [03:26] anydomain: i.e you're effectively making things worse. [03:26] sure tomreyn : https://pastebin.com/sJFeUj8C [03:26] tomreyn and gallomimia indeed ... once the packages are 'updated' then a backup can be made so as the entire thing can be wiped and started anew. [03:27] wolfheart: what's "rootkit checker"? i know of "rkhunter" and "chkrootkit" [03:27] tomreyn: i used chkrootkit [03:27] but it is necessary to get to that point ... it doesnt matter how it effects the system going forward as it is going to be wiped and reinstalled with 18.04. [03:27] i am at a strong loss to explain why you two don't do a backup right now [03:28] for this reason gallomimia ..... When upgrading, you must first upgrade your existing Ubuntu 14.04 Mail-in-a-Box box to the latest release supporting Ubuntu 14.04 --- that's v0.30 --- before you migrate to Ubuntu 18.04. If you are running an older version of Mail-in-a-Box which has an old version of ownCloud or Nextcloud, you will not be able to [03:28] upgrade your data because older versions of ownCloud and Nextcloud that are required to perform the upgrade cannot be run on Ubuntu 18.04. [03:29] 0o [03:29] put a thumb drive in, back up your important files [03:30] the software you need to back up your important files is called cp [03:31] rumini: sudo dpkg-divert --package nvidia-340 --remove /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.distrib [03:31] seriously. stop messing around.... and backup your important files! [03:31] or if it's not backed up, i guess it's not important to you? [03:31] there are no important files other than the backup that cannot be created until the system is updated to a point that the files shown in the paste can be updated ... [03:31] i am done [03:31] lol [03:31] No diversion 'diversion of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.distrib by nvidia-340', none removed. tomreyn [03:32] rumini: sudo dpkg-divert --package nvidia-340 --remove /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 [03:32] Yes, you have a one track mind and this situation requires thinking outside the box gallomimia ... thanks anyways. have a good one. :) [03:32] your important files are in your home directory. maybe you need special settings like fstab, or a keyfile that's in a specific spot? other than that, it's all useless [03:33] tomreyn, Removing 'diversion of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.distrib by nvidia-340' [03:33] wolfheart: either tool commonly returns false positives, read the documentation, and search the web on what it reports. be sure to use the latest upstream version (i would not recommend using the ubuntu packaged versions of these). [03:33] But still can't be upgraded [03:35] rumini: whats the new output? [03:35] what is usually the bottleneck with boot times, cpu speed? drive speed? [03:35] the same [03:36] rumini: it wasn't identical last time you said it was identical, so excuse me if i have my doubts again ;) [03:36] leonardus, it's often drive. we were just troubleshooting one that was caused by bad drivers and a bios bug [03:36] oops [03:36] I just see this line in red: dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package [03:36] Gallomimia: so if I get one of those new pcie gen 4 drives that are coming out with Zen 2, my boot speed will be significantly faster? [03:36] i learned a lot. rumini and tomreyn are still sorting out some old driver [03:36] depends. what are you booting from now? [03:37] rumini: if you could show the full output of sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install again this would help me help you [03:37] Gallomimia: sandisk ssd plus 120gb [03:37] yes, I'm doing it [03:37] :) ok [03:37] eh. i wouldn't say significantly faster [03:37] how fast does it boot now? [03:37] https://pastebin.com/u8s7yVJH [03:38] maybe 15 seconds [03:38] yeah. shave 3 more seconds off it? [03:38] rumini: sudo dpkg-divert --package nvidia-340 --remove /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so [03:38] rumini: then show the full output of sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install again [03:39] rumini: the reason this is so tricky is that packaging of the driver you're trying to use is still under development [03:40] https://pastebin.com/aDav38bi [03:40] anyway leonardus it's starting to look like your boot time would be CPU bound at that point [03:41]