[09:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: So I switched the netbook to xfce4-screensaver, it does what I want it to.  Only downside I can comment on is the duration it takes for the lockscreen to pop up. :)
[10:06] <ondondil> Hey guys, I just wanted to ask if you consider providing greybird theme snap? Right now snap apps look out of place on Xubuntu, with different cursor and gtk theme. I know some of you are not very enthusiastic about snaps in general but now since Canonical is planning to replace Chromium deb with snap (they already did in eoan) this issue will become more apparent for the users
[10:07] <brainwash> ondondil: I thought that the theming issue was solved long ago
[10:09] <ondondil> I installed Chromium in eoan yesterday and it doesn't seem to use default system theme. It looks more like adwaita to me
[10:09] <ondondil> Also cursor changes to DMZ-black
[10:10] <brainwash> chromium uses its own theme, doesn't it?
[10:10] <Unit193> TBH Sean touches the theme stuff more than I do.
[10:11] <brainwash> and how would packing a gtk theme as snap help with that anyway?
[10:12] <brainwash> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/use-the-system-gtk-theme/
[10:12] <ondondil> I thought that's what they did with yaru in order to solve the theming issue. I might be wrong though.
[10:12] <brainwash> what a long list of comments
[10:13] <brainwash> ondondil: a source would help
[10:16] <brainwash> probably this https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/blob/master/snap/snapcraft.yaml
[10:17] <brainwash> "A snap that exports the GTK and icon themes used on various Linux distros."
[10:18] <ondondil> Yes, I was just about to send that link
[10:19] <bluesabre> HEY ALL
[10:19] <bluesabre> oh caps
[10:19] <bluesabre> :D
[10:19] <Unit193> Oh good, now bluesabre can take care of it! :>
[10:20] <bluesabre> Related to all that, https://twitter.com/m_wimpress/status/1139376489445486594
[10:21] <bluesabre> basically, if we add greybird to gtk-common-themes, it will just work
[10:21] <brainwash> easy
[10:21] <brainwash> and elementary-xfce
[10:21] <brainwash> for icons
[10:22] <bluesabre> Just haven't had the time to make it happen... but if one of you want to experiment with it, please do :)
[10:22] <bluesabre> brainwash: yup
[10:22] <brainwash> I removed snap
[10:22] <brainwash> don't plan on installing it again :)
[10:22] <bluesabre> :)
[10:22] <Unit193> I don't have anything snappy either.
[10:23] <bluesabre> I use it for spotify, since the dependencies for that in ubuntu go away every dev cycle
[10:23] <Unit193> 0_o
[10:23] <bluesabre> and because my laptop is a fire hazard when running too many things in the browser
[10:24] <bluesabre> it does the job... with lots of space, but at least apps load faster than they used to :D
[10:25] <ondondil> Chromium is quite popular and it's going to be available only as a snap https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/06/ubuntu-devs-testing-chromium-browser.html
[10:26] <bluesabre> Unit193: glad to hear the screensaver is working for you... we try to land a few performance improvements with each release :)
[10:27] <bluesabre> ondondil: yeah, fair point. In general, I want to improve snaps in Xubuntu because we can and some folks are certainly using them.
[10:28] <bluesabre> but as you know, we don't exactly have an army of contributors ;)
[10:31] <Unit193> And I think you're the only one that has any snap background.
[10:35] <ondondil> Yeah, I know and I'm thankful for what you do. I hope I'll be able to contribute to Xubuntu or Xfce one day but as of now I don't think I have enough programming experience to dive into this project
[10:35] <Unit193> If it helps, I only think I'm a programmer when I'm really tired.
[10:36] <ondondil> I just wanted to point that issue in case you were to busy to notice the transition to snap that Canonical is pushing ;-)
[10:36] <bluesabre> ondondil: thanks :)
[10:37] <bluesabre> I feel like it's basically a larger-scale test. chromium isn't default in any of the flavors, but has wide popularity, so it's an opportunity to get more folks using/testing snaps
[10:41] <Unit193> Kind of figured they got tired of maintaining two large and fast releasing browsers, so are dropping the unseeded one. :3