[02:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1379
[02:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALed8d930be06c: Add toggling showing menubar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALed8d930be06c
[02:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa149ee2c3800: Add trojita hiding toolbar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa149ee2c3800
[02:59] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker dod you do --notrace or do you mean --nobranch?
[03:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1380
[03:01] <wxl> oh nevermind you got it figured out
[03:01] <wxl> no luck with the gpg though?
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker dod you do --notrace or do you mean --nobranch?], I meant no branch.
 @wxl [<wxl> no luck with the gpg though?], No. :(
[03:02] <wxl> that's crazy
[03:02] <wxl> i would file a question on launchpad
 guiverc: just read your comment, the viao showing up 19.04 is mostly because you must have updated from 19.04 to 19.10. same is the case with me.  … About d960 and d780 not showing logos, it's probably due to the fact that they have multiple OS Installed and entries are named as "ubuntu 18.04" and "ubuntu 19.10" ; "ubuntu 19.0
[03:02] <wxl> include the timestamp of when you tried last
 @wxl [<wxl> i would file a question on launchpad], Sure, will do it. But I guess we should try one last time from scratch. Or should we not?
[03:03] <wxl> naw
 Yup! I am okay with it.
 Wait, naw meant now or noo?
[03:04] <wxl> no
[03:04] <guiverc> You're probably right The_LoudSpeaker - vaio was probably a 19.04 qa-test for the checklist pre-install that I bumped...
[03:04] <wxl> just write a question and reference the timestamp i mentioned
 Ohh! Any particular reason I shouldn't try?
 @wxl [<wxl> just write a question and reference the timestamp i mentioned], Sure.
[03:05] <wxl> i mean you could
[03:05] <wxl> i just don't see a lot of hope
[03:17] <guiverc> wxl, you're QA & nice guy too :) Do you have a script that will download qa-tests that I can get a copy of (my attempts at modifying example failed; eg. I want to grab date of my testing; right now last lubuntu install..)
[03:18] <wxl> guiverc: i'm not quite sure what you're asking for. could you elaborate further or maybe give me an example?
[03:19] <guiverc> sorry wxl, i want something that will download my qa-tests, but have failed modifiying  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/api    (I don't know python)
[03:20] <guiverc> and the QA - in the timezone phab thingy; you'd listed yourself as QA - why that ref :)
[03:20] <wxl> you just want the results?
[03:20] <guiverc> yep.  hoping for a text file that I can grep or extract what I want from it (eg. my first line is usually box used)
[03:22] <wxl> let me look through it
[03:24] <wxl> do you want ANY tests at all?
[03:24] <guiverc> wxl if you don't have one don't worry or go to trouble for it please.
[03:24] <wxl> well i don't but it shouldn't be too problematic
[03:25] <guiverc> i was hoping to get just my own (for cycle say 19.10) - from which I can grep as required (eg. dates & boxes tested on; so I can vary etc)
[03:30] <wxl> ok i'm logged in :)
[03:34] <wxl> guiverc: restricted to lubuntu?
 wxl: updated the patch. Also updated the theme. please have a look when you can.
[03:43] <guiverc> The_Loudspeaker - links to photos added to my last comment
[03:43] <guiverc> wxl yep !  
[03:44] <wxl> ok this is going to take some doing then. the documentation on this SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
[03:44] <guiverc> wxl - you've busy enough.  thanks, but leave it.. you've made me feel better for not getting my attempt to work... maybe tsimonq2 has a script?
[03:45] <wxl> i doubt it
[03:45] <wxl> i didn't even know this API existed O_O
[03:45] <guiverc> i can try on ubuntu-qa & elsewhere where hopefully someone has got it working.
[03:45] <wxl> i think that's a good idea
[03:46] <guiverc> :)
 if only I could get a dollar everytime someone requests changes to my revisions … Sigh
[03:47] <guiverc> thanks heaps for trying wxl ; really appreciated !
 @The_LoudSpeaker [if only I could get a dollar everytime someone requests changes to my revisions …], You'll be broke soon in that case ;)
[03:48] <wxl> yeah sorry
[03:48] <wxl> ^^ @tsimonq2 you know about the qa tracker api?
 guiverc: In your photos, I don't see the changed background. Is your theme folder up-to-date with my latest commit?
[04:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1381
 @wxl [<wxl> ^^ @tsimonq2 you know about the qa tracker api?], Yes
[04:02] <guiverc> the master.zip is dated july-7 @ 10:56  (about 3 hours ago unless I did something wrong)
[04:05] <guiverc> The_LoudSpeaker - hold on, I took photo on d780, maybe grub was owned by the wrong one thus photo was wrong.. looking
[04:12] <guiverc> yeah something is wrong, I had Lubuntu above menu on d960 & d780 before I took photo, but not now, nor when in photo.. trying to work out what I did so sorry The_LoudSpeaker
[04:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1382
 @guiverc [<guiverc> yeah something is wrong, I had Lubuntu above menu on d960 & d780 befor …], Lite. I only wanted to see if it doesn't look bad as it did in vm with very small resolution. And it doesn't so don't worry.
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T30: Theme GRUB  3]   15The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda)  commented …], wxl: ^
[04:47] <guiverc> No it looks great!   Nice & big (even for my old eyes)  photos fixed too (though of very low quality) 
 @kc2bez you mentioned that you have an old bios system right? Can you please check on that once? No hurry, do it whenever you are free.
 Also which repo will the theme go to? Like rLUBUNTUGRUBTHEME or rSOMETHINGELSE ?
[05:29] <guiverc> I'm unsure how to tell what resolution the bios grubs use, so if anyone has pointers please let me know :)  (grub says 'auto')
[05:30] <guiverc> Lq:q:q
[05:31] <guiverc> sorry ... meant for elsewhere
[05:31] <lynorian> guiverc: vim?
[05:32] <guiverc> view actually ... but yeah was an <ESC> between each :q
 guiverc: you should add your username to your telegram profile. Then it would be easier for everyone on telegram to tag you with @  … So should you wxl:  :p
[06:12] <guiverc> The_LoudSpeaker; that's asking a lot of an old cobol programmer..    (but I'll give it a go)
 I am sure it's not too much. :)
[09:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T23: hardinfo replacement] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T23#1384
[09:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1385
[12:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T24: Captive Portal Support] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T24#1388
 No one responded :( … https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/681826
 @The_LoudSpeaker [No one responded :( … https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/681826], Did you publish your public key on a server?
 https://kifarunix.com/encrypt-emails-using-enigmail-on-thunderbird/
 @JyotiGomes [Did you publish your public key on a server?], Yup! Using seahorse. But it has always stopped abruptly while publishing keys. Same thing happened last night but I could see the key in keyserver. How do I check if it's published correctly?
[14:36] <TJ-> @The_Loudspeaker check at https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/
 @TJ- [<TJ-> @The_Loudspeaker check at https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/], Yeah I checked. I can see my key there when I search my name. But I mean seahorse seahorse shut down abruptly when I published my keys so is there a chance I can verify that key was published correctly. Something like checksum verification we do with isos
[14:53] <TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker you can fetch the key into a temporary keyring and check it, e.g. "gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /tmp/test.gpg --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-key $KEYID" and then "gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring --list-keys"
 @TJ- [<TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker you can fetch the key into a temporary keyring and check …], Thanks! Will do once I reach home.
[15:02] <TJ-> @The_Loudspeaker - would help if I typed the 2nd command correctly! "gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /tmp/test.gpg --list-keys" - you may also need to do more to verify they're identical, like doing an ASCII-armored export of that fetched key, and the pubic key in your user's keyring, and comparing those
[17:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#1390
[17:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALacf77ac2a651: Add impress-save screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALacf77ac2a651
[17:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcd7b523e9bbc: mv lowriter screenshot down] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcd7b523e9bbc
[17:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2695048f85f4: Add writer save screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2695048f85f4
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/7aLZlDr.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/PR37JQY.jpg
[17:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL33618a32450a: Add calc-save screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL33618a32450a
 @The_LoudSpeaker ^ pictures from my grub screen.
 @kc2bez [@The_LoudSpeaker ^ pictures from my grub screen.], Can you include full screen in the photo. The pictures look like you have zoomed in.
 Not zoomed in. I took the photo with my phone.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/3yBCI0E.jpg
 Thanks!
 Yw
 what resolution is it?
 "bad"
 Yes
 1280x720
[17:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL20de881fef60: Add mat-save screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL20de881fef60
 Probably not in this mode though
 Guessing it is 640x480 or 800x600 here.
 @kc2bez [1280x720], Correction 1280x800
 Still bad
 Must be 800x600
 That's  the issue I am facing, the theme looks great on larger screen resolutions but I can't get it to look nice on small resolutions which is default on BIOS
 :(
 Also, wxl: I added an openpgp key to my launchpad account. Also signed Code of Conduct. Incase needed.
 Turns out seahorse didn't publish keys properly.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [That's  the issue I am facing, the theme looks great on larger screen resolution …], We could fix this by setting GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x720 … In /etc/default/grub but then we don't know if wvery system will support that resolution or not.
[18:58] <TJ-> You can't assume GFX mode for GRUB, you have to consider "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text" may be set
[18:58] <TJ-> in which case an image wouldn't matter of course since it wouldn't be used
[19:00] <TJ-> you can set the background mode to "stretch"
[19:03] <TJ-> as in, in the theme, desktop-image-scale-method
 @TJ- [<TJ-> you can set the background mode to "stretch"], Sure. I will look into it. As soon as I can. Thanks!
[19:06] <TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker see https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Theme-file-format.html
 @TJ- [<TJ-> @The_LoudSpeaker see https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_no …], Noted. Thanks!
 Information that might be useful: … I installed Lubuntu 19.04 today on an HP Stream with 32g eMMC. Results: … 1) It was not possible to install Lubuntu directly, only through the live session; … 2) It was not possible to do the automatic partition of the disk, it was only possible to do the manual partition; … 3) Both the live sess
[19:43] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes what was the cause of not being able to install to the eMMC, was it because its a /dev/mmcblk* device ?
 The mmc device may have been automatically mounted.
 @TJ- [<TJ-> @JyotiGomes what was the cause of not being able to install to the eMMC, w …], I'm not sure
[19:54] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes when you had to use the installers' "Something Else" formatting, did you install to a /dev/mmcblk0 device?
 i did't see, i just did the partition. But i can do it again to see
[20:02] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes if it is then it could just mean the Calmares scripts are filtering out mmcblk devices
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/Ojn2M80.jpg
 "Something Else" does not appear but directly the manual partitioning option
 Please paste the log ~/.cache/Calamares/session.log (or something similar). … On phab we have also a paste service
 ok
[20:24] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes I was thinking of the Ubiquity installer when I mentioned "something else" !
[20:25] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes it is an mmcblk device and it seems it is unpartitioned before that point since it is offering a default partitioning, or did you make some partitioning selections before that screenshot?
 Both before and this time, I had the lubuntu installed on the disk, it was a new installation but there was a Lubuntu already installed.
 Never offered a default partitioning
 This was the first image that appeared immediately after the keyboard setting
[20:37] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes hmmm, seems like a bug, best to report it
[20:38] <TJ-> @JyotiGomes seems like 2 bugs - fails to detect installed OS, fails to offer partitioning scheme ... or ... detects existing partitioning and OS and is actually going to do an install over the top !
 I think it's the first option. Had already tried on a clean mmcblk and it was the same thing
 I'll report the issues later.
[21:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL80de881a3aa6: Fix indent] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL80de881a3aa6
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL63b47df7c5b5: Fix tables] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL63b47df7c5b5
[22:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL54f620017927: Add alternate keyboard shortcut to reload] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL54f620017927
 @JyotiGomes [I'll report the issues later.], I'd be interested if you have the same result in the latest daily of 19.10. The newer version of Calamares may solve this. I noticed it handles swap partitions more gracefully.
[22:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL896192932455: Add open firefox open contianing folder] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL896192932455
[22:46] <lynorian> yay that finally is getting better
 @kc2bez [I'd be interested if you have the same result in the latest daily of 19.10. The …], i will check it
 @JyotiGomes [I'll report the issues later.], "Bug" reported
 @JyotiGomes [i will check it], Thank you. I don't have any hardware to check with.
 i will check it now with the 19.10 Daily Build
[23:00] <lynorian> I don't have any emmc hardware either
[23:05] <wxl> @JyotiGomes where's this bug report?
 @wxl [<wxl> @JyotiGomes where's this bug report?], https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1835679
[23:05] <wxl> @teward001 it seems we have a broken intro in discourse https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/greetings/166/20
[23:06] <wxl> @JyotiGomes next time just do `ubuntu-bug calamares`
[23:06] <wxl> the log isn't there, which is problematic. had you done it in the proper way, it would have just taken care of that for you.
[23:06] <wxl> additionally, did you check to see if anything was mounted
[23:06] <wxl> ?
 @wxl [<wxl> @JyotiGomes next time just do `ubuntu-bug calamares`], My bad
[23:12] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker i don't really use telegram. i'm there only to kick people off if need be.
 @wxl [<wxl> @JyotiGomes next time just do `ubuntu-bug calamares`], You Mean, as i wrote it now?           https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1835679
[23:15] <wxl> no
[23:15] <wxl>  1. open terminal
[23:15] <wxl>  2. type: ubuntu-bug calamares
[23:16] <wxl> but you should do this in the live setup after you try to perform the install
[23:16] <wxl> also know that there's no intent that you should be able to just install lubuntu without being in the live setup
 ok. but i am not usint that laptop now, so i cant past a log
[23:17] <wxl> and before you file that bug make sure to check to see if anything is mounted
[23:17] <wxl> then i really can't do anything with this bug
 @wxl [<wxl> then i really can't do anything with this bug], I will do it
 @The_LoudSpeaker [That's  the issue I am facing, the theme looks great on larger screen resolution …], Doesn't virtualbox start with that kind of resolution
[23:23] <wxl> it starts with a small resolution
 so @The_LoudSpeaker you could test on a virtualbox vm machine
 @wxl [<wxl> but you should do this in the live setup after you try to perform the inst …], i am here. Trying to install the 19.10. The same issue. I can now do that report by terminal. I am in live setup now, in the installation step when shows the only-one partitioning option
[23:41] <wxl> is anything mounted?
 the emmc is mounted
[23:42] <wxl> THAT is the problem
[23:42] <wxl> that is not a bug
[23:42] <wxl> close the installer, unmount it, start the installer again.. everything works
 ok i will check
[23:44] <wxl> @lynorian: didn't we used to have a note in the manual about ensuring that things aren't mounted?
[23:44] <lynorian> wxl it is not there?
[23:44] <wxl> maybe i'm issing it
[23:45] <wxl> i'm not seeing anything https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.3/installation.html#setting-up-partitions
[23:45] <lynorian> it is in Advanced partitoning is that the wrong place?
[23:45] <wxl> OH
[23:45] <wxl> that's it
[23:46] <lynorian> wxl but if it confuses you maybe I should make it a more obvious spot?
[23:47] <wxl> maybe there could just be a note saying that if only manual partitioning is offered on the drive of choice, it's likely due to something being mounted
 You're absolutely right! That was the problem. Now the options appear. Sorry, I'm going to remove the bug report. But maybe it's best to leave an indication that the option to erase the disk and partition it automatically only appears after dismounting the mmcblk
[23:47] <wxl> i believe i filed an upstream bug report about that
[23:48] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/860#issuecomment-427693844
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/YOCV3C0.jpg As it appears now
[23:54] <wxl> horray :)
[23:57] <wxl> it should have been included
[23:57] <wxl> make sure sddm-theme-lubuntu is installed, too
[23:58] <wxl> and lxqt-panel
[23:58] <wxl> you might want to `dpkg-reconfigure lubuntu-default-settings sddm-theme-lubuntu`
[23:59] <wxl> aw shoot wrong channel jeez
 Great WXL! And you've even written about this before! Knowledge and Premonition! 😊