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lubot<JyotiGomes> How i delete or consider solved the issue in Launchpad?00:00
wxljust make a comment stating why it's invalid and i'll take care of it00:00
wxl(make a comment on the bug i mean)00:01
lubot<JyotiGomes> ok00:01
lubot<JyotiGomes> @wxl [<wxl> make sure sddm-theme-lubuntu is installed, too], You mean, in 19.10?00:11
wxl@JyotiGomes ignore those four lines.. they were meant for another channel00:11
lubot<JyotiGomes> I thought that was it, because of the message that appeared later, but I asked only to confirm. 😊00:13
lubot<JyotiGomes> It is necessary to include this information in the manual, so that nobody else does the foolish thing I did00:15
wxlit's there, kind of. that's what @lynorian and i were discussing00:15
wxlyou can see that /people is not00:19
wxloops nevermind that00:19
lubot<JyotiGomes> @wxl [<wxl> it's there, kind of. that's what @lynorian and i were discussing], Yes, in "Advanced partitioning". Sorry for that!00:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL13614babd334: Add copy link address from downloads] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL13614babd33400:22
wxl@JyotiGomes it's ok i missed it at first, too00:22
lynorianI think this needs to be way more obvious thanks fixing it now00:23
lynorianwxl @jyotigomes should I have be an info or warning box to make it even more obvious00:26
wxli think so00:26
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe9e7182f42e1: Move swapoff into setting up partitions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe9e7182f42e100:27
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5c75739f15d1: Even more obvious swapoff++] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5c75739f15d100:33
wxlthis is not a poor suggestion: 00:34
wxlRegarding 18.04 as far as I am informed its supports ends by April 2021 (opposed to December 2019 for 19.04).00:34
wxlugh00:34
wxlnot that00:34
wxlhttps://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/why-not-contribute/87/2?u=wxl00:34
wxlwe need to get pages on phabricator for every form of contribution00:35
lynorianany other manual suggestions00:38
wxl@lynorian: added links to https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/why-not-contribute/87 which might be good to add to the manual00:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#139201:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcad186ae499f: Add link for support appendix B] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcad186ae499f01:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGcce4099727e7: Bump version for new upstream release] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGcce4099727e701:20
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL892006c1e848: Fix blue box is note not info] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL892006c1e84801:27
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL943e1a867a5f: Add manual link for documentation link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL943e1a867a5f02:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#139303:26
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbf00cf31d1cf: Fix links] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbf00cf31d1cf04:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL09391a3d2a93: Add testing link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL09391a3d2a9304:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hey! wxl,  … about path=/panel/desktopswitch2 should be path=/panel/desktopswitch … There's something like hardcoded about that path. I wrote it earlier like that only(desktopswitch) but when I open up shortcut settings through gui, It goes back to Ctrl+Fx. Can't change it. Also, it shows up in italics(or desktopswitch2 shows 05:23
lubotup in italics, one of them definitely) … I will send screenshots when I can.05:23
wxli was able to change it05:23
wxli unenabled all the ctrl-fx shortcuts, then deleted them out of the file, then changed all of the meta-fx ones to desktopswitch05:24
wxldesktopswitch2 DOES NOT work05:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i unenabled all the ctrl-fx shortcuts, then deleted them out of the file, …], Restart once after that please.05:25
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker works fine05:26
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> About the media keys, I will make changes as soon as I can.05:27
wxlsounds good05:27
wxlmaybe by that time @tsimonq2 will answer me about what to do about waiting on XDG compatibility :/05:28
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker works fine], Whaaaaaaatttt? Honestly, it didn't on my system. I will do that again. And also desktopswitch2 works on my vm.05:29
wxlyeah i tried and tried and it would not work05:30
wxldo you have a right meta key, a left meta key, or both?05:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> And yeah, I had noticed that one keybinding outside <keyboard> tag after I sent the differential. Was waiting for you to point it out. XD05:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> do you have a right meta key, a left meta key, or both?], Left only.05:31
wxlstrange05:32
wxlnot sure why it worked for you05:32
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> maybe by that time @tsimonq2 will answer me about what to do about waiting …], Wat?05:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> not sure why it worked for you], I will try again tonight and if doesn't work. I am gonna make a video and post it on lxqt forum. XD … If it does then well.. idk.05:33
* wxl sighs05:34
wxl@tsimonq2: maybe try reading your notifications on phab05:34
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Wat?], Should we patch lxqt-globalkeys separately or include it in lubuntu-default-settings05:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: maybe try reading your notifications on phab], Which task?05:34
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Shortcut keys. T5905:36
lubot<tsimonq2> ack05:37
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> About windows appearing on panel even on different desktops, one good reason to seprate windows from different desktops is that many users shift from windows to lubuntu due to its lightweight-ness and in windows the windows are separated for each desktop. … People would like to have simillar feature by default on lubuntu.  … W07:11
lubothat say @kc2bez @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl wxl: and others?07:11
kc2bez¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I vote with the majority. Whatever people want to do I support. I don't think we should just because Windows does it though. I would like it to fall in line with other desktop environments. 10:00
lubot<HMollerCl> Agree with @kc2bez12:08
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 it seems we have a broken intro in discourse https://discourse. …], I will have to look from a computer usually the dev console explains the problem :P12:23
lubot<teward001> i.e. f12 on firefox :P12:23
lubot<teward001> probably the CSP and cross site linking12:23
lubot<teward001> wxl: @wxl23 this looks like an internal name resolution failure for Discourse - it can't resolve itself 😐14:17
lubot<teward001> there's no way for me to fix *that* when it has a "DNS Lookup Failure" internally14:17
lubot<teward001> SocketError (Failed to open TCP connection to discourse.lubuntu.me:443 (getaddrinfo: Name or service not known))14:18
lubot<teward001> i'll have to check with discourse upstream on this14:18
tewardtsimonq2: wxl: and others: Calamares has released a new version, 3.2.11, which addresses the CVEs previously discovered and reported to the Lubuntu Team and myself, as well as the Ubuntu Security Team.  A request to adjust the descriptions of the CVEs has been submitted to MITRE.14:26
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 it seems we have a broken intro in discourse https://discourse. …], This should be fixed, but the fix for it is temporary.  Seems that LXD DNS being involved on system is intercepting all DNS requests, and I have to see if I can prioritize Internet DNS instead.  (Which sucks because Docker inherits system-leve14:53
lubotl DNS.  I'm going to see if it's possible to get a full Discourse backup then move Discourse into its own container with nesting to make Docker work in the container)14:53
lubot<teward001> (but that's a task for later)14:53
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaaecf33a2584: Add bug triage link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaaecf33a258416:50
lubot<JyotiGomes> @The_LoudSpeaker [About windows appearing on panel even on different desktops, one good reason to …], +1 I think Linux should have all the features that exist on other OS and have even more features and options beyond those17:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALedf53fb05eee: Remove number from copypasta] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALedf53fb05eee17:33
tsimonq2wxl: See sil2100's comment on bug 1825587 after accepting.18:10
ubot93Bug 1825587 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu Disco) "non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182558718:10
tsimonq2wxl: Punting to you to respond to; let me know if you'd like to punt back.18:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#139518:16
tsimonq2wxl: I don't get your question on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5918:21
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5918:21
wxl@teward001 ugh docker. thanks for looking into that and good luck.18:42
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 ugh docker. thanks for looking into that and good luck.], docker+lxd actually18:45
lubot<teward001> but yes18:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd90c93738366: Remove bullet for fake tiling] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd90c9373836618:46
wxl@tsimonq2: the issue with T59 is that lxqt-globalkeys does not support XDG. there's a long standing bug (rather, pull request, but it's not functional) to fix it, but it hasn't. ideally those changes we want should go in lubuntu-default-settings, but without that, it can't. maybe there's some hope of this being fixed before release? i think it's small. question is, do we just go ahead and patch 19:07
wxllxqt-globalkeys and fix it later or try to wait?19:07
wxl@tsimonq2: re: bug 1825587 i'm not sure i can answer it. i can say i have seen situations where in order for fixes in libfm-qt to become functional in pcmanfm-qt, it's needed a no-change rebuild. that said, punted back.19:08
ubot93Bug 1825587 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu Disco) "non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182558719:08
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker btw waiting for @tsimonq2 to dig up Instagram credentials19:44
* lynorian hopes it is not just rafeal that ever had those 19:56
wxlif that's the case we're still in touch to some degree20:08
wxlman, i *really* miss him20:08
wxlgo test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/+bug/1825587/comments/16 folks20:24
ubot93Ubuntu bug 1825587 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu Disco) "non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop" [High, Fix Committed]20:24
wxlcan anyone set ctrl-alt-del to ANYTHING in lxqt-globalkeys?20:24
lubot<teward001> can you?  :P20:26
wxlno, which is why i ask20:26
wxlit's strange20:26
wxli see no issues upstream about it, which i find bizarre20:26
lubot<teward001> well20:26
lubot<teward001> AIUI, ctrl+alt+del shouldn't be allowed to be stolen by anything except the DE20:27
lubot<teward001> so i'm not sure why you'd want to CHANGE that20:27
wxlto be fair, this is the DE XD20:27
lubot<teward001> (i.e. it would be used to intercept for a reboot call, etc. like other DEs do it)20:27
wxlor at least a component of it20:27
lubot<teward001> y'all didn't let me finish typing lol20:27
wxlyou did finish: you pressed enter :)20:27
lubot<teward001> *shoots wxl with a taser*20:27
lubot<teward001> *drops wxl into the endless cesspool that is regex-driven HTML parsers*20:28
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> you did finish: you pressed enter :)], maybe he only pressed "return"20:29
lubot<aptghetto> Greedy regex-driven html parser without grouping20:29
wxlhehehehhe20:29
tewardThe Chaos of Regex HTML Parsing Incarnate.  https://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/60334620:29
teward:P20:29
lubot<HMollerCl> BeautifouslSoup?20:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T70: non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T70#139621:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: Right now, In front of me, I have desktopswitch2 working. Meta +Fx takes me to desktop no "x"22:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I mean super+Fx22:04
wxlwell for what it's worth it doesn't work for me22:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Changing it to only desktopswitch now and then let's see.22:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Oops! I can't change it to desktopswitch from the gui. o.O22:05
wxlno you can't22:05
wxllike i said, you need to edit it in the file22:05
wxlmake sure all the ctrl-fx definitions (which should be desktopswitch not desktopswitch2) are removed22:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> can anyone set ctrl-alt-del to ANYTHING in lxqt-globalkeys?], Ctrl+alt+del *is* set to qps. It's there in the shortcuts settings. Also there in the file I uploaded. It is working for me.22:11
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker, as i said in the task, we need to remove that from there22:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker, as i said in the task, we need to remove that from there], https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#126022:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#126022:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1260], these two statements here, contradict each other. wxl:22:20
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1260],22:20
wxlless linking, more saying22:20
wxlughhhhhhhhh ctrl-alt-del does work. i just had to figure out how to do it in openbox X'''D22:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 🙂22:33
wxlstill i want to move it out of openbox22:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> But ughhhh!! I disabled everything of desktopswitch2 (i.e. those ctrl+Fx shortcuts using gui) then I went and deleted them from the file. And now after reboot they are there again! All enabled.22:36
wxlqps is part of the lxqt project so there's no reason why not to have that in there22:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> still i want to move it out of openbox], It is out of openbox. I myself set it in lxqt-globalkeys22:37
wxlctrl-alt-del?22:38
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> ctrl-alt-del?], Yup!22:38
lynorianopens qps22:38
wxlok cool22:38
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [But ughhhh!! I disabled everything of desktopswitch2 (i.e. those ctrl+Fx shortcu …], Anything about this?22:38
wxlworking on it22:38
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [<lynorian> opens qps], You have the file from D17? @lynorian22:39
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: @kc2bez @guiverc  Just updated the theme to scale the background better. Can you check in your BIOS systems if it looks better?23:02
wxlWTF with these four control keys23:22
wxlit's like they're hardcoded23:23
wxlyou can't edit them23:23
guivercwill do The_LoudSpeaker23:58

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