[00:00] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> How i delete or consider solved the issue in Launchpad?
[00:00] <wxl> just make a comment stating why it's invalid and i'll take care of it
[00:01] <wxl> (make a comment on the bug i mean)
[00:01] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> ok
[00:11] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @wxl [<wxl> make sure sddm-theme-lubuntu is installed, too], You mean, in 19.10?
[00:11] <wxl> @JyotiGomes ignore those four lines.. they were meant for another channel
[00:13] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> I thought that was it, because of the message that appeared later, but I asked only to confirm. 😊
[00:15] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> It is necessary to include this information in the manual, so that nobody else does the foolish thing I did
[00:15] <wxl> it's there, kind of. that's what @lynorian and i were discussing
[00:19] <wxl> you can see that /people is not
[00:19] <wxl> oops nevermind that
[00:22] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @wxl [<wxl> it's there, kind of. that's what @lynorian and i were discussing], Yes, in "Advanced partitioning". Sorry for that!
[00:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL13614babd334: Add copy link address from downloads] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL13614babd334
[00:22] <wxl> @JyotiGomes it's ok i missed it at first, too
[00:23] <lynorian> I think this needs to be way more obvious thanks fixing it now
[00:26] <lynorian> wxl @jyotigomes should I have be an info or warning box to make it even more obvious
[00:26] <wxl> i think so
[00:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe9e7182f42e1: Move swapoff into setting up partitions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe9e7182f42e1
[00:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5c75739f15d1: Even more obvious swapoff++] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5c75739f15d1
[00:34] <wxl> this is not a poor suggestion: 
[00:34] <wxl> Regarding 18.04 as far as I am informed its supports ends by April 2021 (opposed to December 2019 for 19.04).
[00:34] <wxl> ugh
[00:34] <wxl> not that
[00:34] <wxl> https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/why-not-contribute/87/2?u=wxl
[00:35] <wxl> we need to get pages on phabricator for every form of contribution
[00:38] <lynorian> any other manual suggestions
[00:57] <wxl> @lynorian: added links to https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/why-not-contribute/87 which might be good to add to the manual
[01:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1392
[01:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcad186ae499f: Add link for support appendix B] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcad186ae499f
[01:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGcce4099727e7: Bump version for new upstream release] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGcce4099727e7
[01:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL892006c1e848: Fix blue box is note not info] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL892006c1e848
[02:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL943e1a867a5f: Add manual link for documentation link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL943e1a867a5f
[03:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T30: Theme GRUB] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30#1393
[04:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbf00cf31d1cf: Fix links] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbf00cf31d1cf
[04:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL09391a3d2a93: Add testing link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL09391a3d2a93
[05:23] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Hey! wxl,  … about path=/panel/desktopswitch2 should be path=/panel/desktopswitch … There's something like hardcoded about that path. I wrote it earlier like that only(desktopswitch) but when I open up shortcut settings through gui, It goes back to Ctrl+Fx. Can't change it. Also, it shows up in italics(or desktopswitch2 shows 
[05:23] <lubot> up in italics, one of them definitely) … I will send screenshots when I can.
[05:23] <wxl> i was able to change it
[05:24] <wxl> i unenabled all the ctrl-fx shortcuts, then deleted them out of the file, then changed all of the meta-fx ones to desktopswitch
[05:24] <wxl> desktopswitch2 DOES NOT work
[05:25] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i unenabled all the ctrl-fx shortcuts, then deleted them out of the file, …], Restart once after that please.
[05:26] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker works fine
[05:27] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> About the media keys, I will make changes as soon as I can.
[05:27] <wxl> sounds good
[05:28] <wxl> maybe by that time @tsimonq2 will answer me about what to do about waiting on XDG compatibility :/
[05:29] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker works fine], Whaaaaaaatttt? Honestly, it didn't on my system. I will do that again. And also desktopswitch2 works on my vm.
[05:30] <wxl> yeah i tried and tried and it would not work
[05:31] <wxl> do you have a right meta key, a left meta key, or both?
[05:31] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> And yeah, I had noticed that one keybinding outside <keyboard> tag after I sent the differential. Was waiting for you to point it out. XD
[05:31] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> do you have a right meta key, a left meta key, or both?], Left only.
[05:32] <wxl> strange
[05:32] <wxl> not sure why it worked for you
[05:33] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> maybe by that time @tsimonq2 will answer me about what to do about waiting …], Wat?
[05:33] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> not sure why it worked for you], I will try again tonight and if doesn't work. I am gonna make a video and post it on lxqt forum. XD … If it does then well.. idk.
[05:34]  * wxl sighs
[05:34] <wxl> @tsimonq2: maybe try reading your notifications on phab
[05:34] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Wat?], Should we patch lxqt-globalkeys separately or include it in lubuntu-default-settings
[05:34] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: maybe try reading your notifications on phab], Which task?
[05:36] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Shortcut keys. T59
[05:37] <lubot> <tsimonq2> ack
[07:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> About windows appearing on panel even on different desktops, one good reason to seprate windows from different desktops is that many users shift from windows to lubuntu due to its lightweight-ness and in windows the windows are separated for each desktop. … People would like to have simillar feature by default on lubuntu.  … W
[07:11] <lubot> hat say @kc2bez @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl wxl: and others?
[10:00] <kc2bez> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I vote with the majority. Whatever people want to do I support. I don't think we should just because Windows does it though. I would like it to fall in line with other desktop environments. 
[12:08] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Agree with @kc2bez
[12:23] <lubot> <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 it seems we have a broken intro in discourse https://discourse. …], I will have to look from a computer usually the dev console explains the problem :P
[12:23] <lubot> <teward001> i.e. f12 on firefox :P
[12:23] <lubot> <teward001> probably the CSP and cross site linking
[14:17] <lubot> <teward001> wxl: @wxl23 this looks like an internal name resolution failure for Discourse - it can't resolve itself 😐
[14:17] <lubot> <teward001> there's no way for me to fix *that* when it has a "DNS Lookup Failure" internally
[14:18] <lubot> <teward001> SocketError (Failed to open TCP connection to discourse.lubuntu.me:443 (getaddrinfo: Name or service not known))
[14:18] <lubot> <teward001> i'll have to check with discourse upstream on this
[14:26] <teward> tsimonq2: wxl: and others: Calamares has released a new version, 3.2.11, which addresses the CVEs previously discovered and reported to the Lubuntu Team and myself, as well as the Ubuntu Security Team.  A request to adjust the descriptions of the CVEs has been submitted to MITRE.
[14:53] <lubot> <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 it seems we have a broken intro in discourse https://discourse. …], This should be fixed, but the fix for it is temporary.  Seems that LXD DNS being involved on system is intercepting all DNS requests, and I have to see if I can prioritize Internet DNS instead.  (Which sucks because Docker inherits system-leve
[14:53] <lubot> l DNS.  I'm going to see if it's possible to get a full Discourse backup then move Discourse into its own container with nesting to make Docker work in the container)
[14:53] <lubot> <teward001> (but that's a task for later)
[16:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALaaecf33a2584: Add bug triage link] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALaaecf33a2584
[17:06] <lubot> <JyotiGomes> @The_LoudSpeaker [About windows appearing on panel even on different desktops, one good reason to …], +1 I think Linux should have all the features that exist on other OS and have even more features and options beyond those
[17:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALedf53fb05eee: Remove number from copypasta] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALedf53fb05eee
[18:10] <tsimonq2> wxl: See sil2100's comment on bug 1825587 after accepting.
[18:10] <ubot93> Bug 1825587 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu Disco) "non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825587
[18:10] <tsimonq2> wxl: Punting to you to respond to; let me know if you'd like to punt back.
[18:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1395
[18:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: I don't get your question on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[18:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[18:42] <wxl> @teward001 ugh docker. thanks for looking into that and good luck.
[18:45] <lubot> <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 ugh docker. thanks for looking into that and good luck.], docker+lxd actually
[18:45] <lubot> <teward001> but yes
[18:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd90c93738366: Remove bullet for fake tiling] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd90c93738366
[19:07] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the issue with T59 is that lxqt-globalkeys does not support XDG. there's a long standing bug (rather, pull request, but it's not functional) to fix it, but it hasn't. ideally those changes we want should go in lubuntu-default-settings, but without that, it can't. maybe there's some hope of this being fixed before release? i think it's small. question is, do we just go ahead and patch 
[19:07] <wxl> lxqt-globalkeys and fix it later or try to wait?
[19:08] <wxl> @tsimonq2: re: bug 1825587 i'm not sure i can answer it. i can say i have seen situations where in order for fixes in libfm-qt to become functional in pcmanfm-qt, it's needed a no-change rebuild. that said, punted back.
[19:08] <ubot93> Bug 1825587 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu Disco) "non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825587
[19:44] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker btw waiting for @tsimonq2 to dig up Instagram credentials
[19:56]  * lynorian hopes it is not just rafeal that ever had those 
[20:08] <wxl> if that's the case we're still in touch to some degree
[20:08] <wxl> man, i *really* miss him
[20:24] <wxl> go test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/+bug/1825587/comments/16 folks
[20:24] <ubot93> Ubuntu bug 1825587 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu Disco) "non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop" [High, Fix Committed]
[20:24] <wxl> can anyone set ctrl-alt-del to ANYTHING in lxqt-globalkeys?
[20:26] <lubot> <teward001> can you?  :P
[20:26] <wxl> no, which is why i ask
[20:26] <wxl> it's strange
[20:26] <wxl> i see no issues upstream about it, which i find bizarre
[20:26] <lubot> <teward001> well
[20:27] <lubot> <teward001> AIUI, ctrl+alt+del shouldn't be allowed to be stolen by anything except the DE
[20:27] <lubot> <teward001> so i'm not sure why you'd want to CHANGE that
[20:27] <wxl> to be fair, this is the DE XD
[20:27] <lubot> <teward001> (i.e. it would be used to intercept for a reboot call, etc. like other DEs do it)
[20:27] <wxl> or at least a component of it
[20:27] <lubot> <teward001> y'all didn't let me finish typing lol
[20:27] <wxl> you did finish: you pressed enter :)
[20:27] <lubot> <teward001> *shoots wxl with a taser*
[20:28] <lubot> <teward001> *drops wxl into the endless cesspool that is regex-driven HTML parsers*
[20:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> you did finish: you pressed enter :)], maybe he only pressed "return"
[20:29] <lubot> <aptghetto> Greedy regex-driven html parser without grouping
[20:29] <wxl> hehehehhe
[20:29] <teward> The Chaos of Regex HTML Parsing Incarnate.  https://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/603346
[20:29] <teward> :P
[20:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> BeautifouslSoup?
[21:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T70: non-existent temporary desktop file appears on desktop] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T70#1396
[22:03] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: Right now, In front of me, I have desktopswitch2 working. Meta +Fx takes me to desktop no "x"
[22:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I mean super+Fx
[22:04] <wxl> well for what it's worth it doesn't work for me
[22:04] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Changing it to only desktopswitch now and then let's see.
[22:05] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Oops! I can't change it to desktopswitch from the gui. o.O
[22:05] <wxl> no you can't
[22:05] <wxl> like i said, you need to edit it in the file
[22:06] <wxl> make sure all the ctrl-fx definitions (which should be desktopswitch not desktopswitch2) are removed
[22:11] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> can anyone set ctrl-alt-del to ANYTHING in lxqt-globalkeys?], Ctrl+alt+del *is* set to qps. It's there in the shortcuts settings. Also there in the file I uploaded. It is working for me.
[22:11] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker, as i said in the task, we need to remove that from there
[22:16] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker, as i said in the task, we need to remove that from there], https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1260
[22:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1260
[22:20] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1260], these two statements here, contradict each other. wxl:
[22:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#1260],
[22:20] <wxl> less linking, more saying
[22:31] <wxl> ughhhhhhhhh ctrl-alt-del does work. i just had to figure out how to do it in openbox X'''D
[22:33] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> 🙂
[22:36] <wxl> still i want to move it out of openbox
[22:36] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> But ughhhh!! I disabled everything of desktopswitch2 (i.e. those ctrl+Fx shortcuts using gui) then I went and deleted them from the file. And now after reboot they are there again! All enabled.
[22:36] <wxl> qps is part of the lxqt project so there's no reason why not to have that in there
[22:37] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> still i want to move it out of openbox], It is out of openbox. I myself set it in lxqt-globalkeys
[22:38] <wxl> ctrl-alt-del?
[22:38] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> ctrl-alt-del?], Yup!
[22:38] <lynorian> opens qps
[22:38] <wxl> ok cool
[22:38] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [But ughhhh!! I disabled everything of desktopswitch2 (i.e. those ctrl+Fx shortcu …], Anything about this?
[22:38] <wxl> working on it
[22:39] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [<lynorian> opens qps], You have the file from D17? @lynorian
[23:02] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: @kc2bez @guiverc  Just updated the theme to scale the background better. Can you check in your BIOS systems if it looks better?
[23:22] <wxl> WTF with these four control keys
[23:23] <wxl> it's like they're hardcoded
[23:23] <wxl> you can't edit them
[23:58] <guiverc> will do The_LoudSpeaker