[00:00] <Biessie> Gallomimia Thanks
[00:01] <filifunky> Gallomimia still here!  all of sudden I was able to see it, but I'm unable to mount it because of "unknown file system 'exfat'"
[00:01] <filifunky> but the box of the reader says ok for Mac OS
[00:01] <filifunky> both ubuntu and mac os are linux right?
[00:01] <Gallomimia> no
[00:02] <Gallomimia> mac osx is based on a unix kernel... from some flavor of bsd i believe
[00:02] <Gallomimia> it's a USB device right? type lsusb into terminal
[00:02] <Gallomimia> what is on this card you're reading?
[00:03] <filifunky> ahh ok.  I just looked at the setup guide and it says good for linux kernal 2.4.1 and above
[00:03] <filifunky> yes it is a USB
[00:03] <filifunky> photos
[00:03] <Gallomimia> oh dear. it sounds like it's formatted for windows and... i thought exfat was readable on linux and ubuntu
[00:04] <rfm> robertparkerx, I suppose it's possible the interface was a simulated type that no longer has drivers in the kernel, but I don't know enough about that to recommend a fix.  You really need to find whoever set up this machine in this odd way..
[00:04] <Gallomimia> filifunky, seems you need some added software to get it to work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1057423/ubuntu-18-04-does-not-mount-2tb-exfat-drive-even-after-installing-exfat-fuse-exf
[00:05] <rfm> robertparkerx, what you could do which is at least reasonably safe would be just to comment out the "auto eth1" line in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:05] <filifunky> oh!  ok I'll check that out Gallomimia...is there anything from this lsusb command that should be interesting?
[00:05] <Gallomimia> you should see the device you plugged in, a description of it, brand name, so forth
[00:05] <Bashing-om> filifunky: 'exfat: install -> ' sudo apt install exfat-utils exfat-fuse ' . then try again to read the device.
[00:06] <rfm> robertparkerx, then it should get further in the boot, although the net 10 interface won't be configured and presumably it was there for a reason
[00:06] <Gallomimia> is exfat now in the standard repos? my quick google search showed people needing a PPA or a separate download
[00:06] <filifunky> i love you guys
[00:06] <filifunky> i see my photos
[00:06] <Gallomimia> .... wow that was fast
[00:07] <robertparkerx> no errors now but it still boots into emergency mode
[00:07] <Gallomimia> i'm creating a new LV for my root fs. a ubuntu 19.04 install is going in there. in the past i used 16gig slices. how big is recommended these days (/home is separate)
[00:11] <rfm> robertparkerx, there must be some error somewhere. Try "systemctl list-units --failed" to see if there are other failed units, then systemctl status <failed unit name> to see its messages
[00:13] <Gallomimia> i have a bootable install on a partition of a disk drive. it's something like 220gigs. used about 12 gigs. i want to copy that partition onto an LV of size... oh, 24 gigs, let's say. what's the best way to do that? dd and cat source > dest are going to have too much data to copy, right?
[00:13] <robertparkerx> rfm, https://d.pr/i/AXzR2z
[00:14] <robertparkerx> "failed to run 'mount' task: Too many levels of symbolic links
[00:17] <Biessie> 19 > 18.10 ?
[00:17] <Gallomimia> the version numbers you're looking at are dates of release
[00:18] <rfm> robertparkerx, well, at least whoever did this screwed everything up in the same way.  Looks like /usr/local/www was set up badly just like /var/log was.
[00:18] <Gallomimia> !yy.mm | biessie
[00:18] <Gallomimia> ... where's the bot?
[00:18] <Gallomimia> phew. thought it was dead!
[00:18] <Biessie> Gallomimia  :)
[00:18] <Biessie> screw it up updateing from 18.10 to current
[00:18] <Biessie> i was on 16.04 LTS
[00:18] <Gallomimia> so yes, 19.04 comes after 18.10
[00:19] <Gallomimia> neither of which are LTS, that's 18.04
[00:19] <rfm> robertparkerx, I guess we should check that the /usr/local/www symlink points to /mnt/sdb1/www and if it does, remove the /usr/local/www line from /etc/fstab just like we did with /var/log
[00:19] <Gallomimia> !LTS | biessie
[00:19] <robertparkerx> Okay
[00:20] <Biessie> oops - yea thats what i was on 18.04** idk why i said 16.04
[00:20] <robertparkerx> rfm, it does linkk there
[00:20] <Gallomimia> i personally recommend not updating. a clean install is better. at least in my experience
[00:22] <Biessie> This is just a play server. i learn on it and fool around and host my ZNC on it lol.
[00:22] <Biessie> just dabbing around
[00:22] <Sveta> upgrade from lts to lts is okay
[00:23] <Biessie> what would cause issues upgrading? what are the common errors?
[00:23] <robertparkerx> YOU ALL ARE THE BEST! I AM BACK IN
[00:24] <Sveta> Yay.
[00:25] <Gallomimia> biessie if we knew the answers to that question, it wouldn't be such an issue. it's my personal opinion that having a system to test upgrades on is very difficult, because the part of the equation missing from such a test-case is where you use that system for 6 months to 2 years, apply updates, and change configurations.
[00:25] <Bashing-om> Biessie: 3rd party software - proprietary drivers.
[00:25] <Gallomimia> all of the changes you apply to a system by using it every day for however long. how should a tester repeat this 20 times, for every different user?
[00:28] <Rojola> hi
[00:28] <Rojola> I am in trouble with a process that I can not kill
[00:28] <Rojola> the process changes its PID constantly VERY quickly
[00:29] <Gallomimia> processes don't change pid's
[00:29] <Rojola> to I never know that process to send the kill signal to
[00:29] <Rojola> Gallomimia, the PID changes. Really
[00:29] <Gallomimia> if its changing pid, that means its a new spawn of the same process.
[00:29] <Rojola> https://filebin.net/8pdcj1xdogh6i5wc/countly.png?t=pcy8813r
[00:29] <Rojola> what is this "countly" ?
[00:29] <Gallomimia> the old one quit and a new one spawned. you'll have to cut it off at the source
[00:29] <Rojola> killall -9 countly does not work
[00:29] <Rojola> ok but where is the origin of this process?
[00:30] <robertparkerx> I'm back in but I tried to `apt -f install` to get mysql-server installed and back working. I got this error https://d.pr/i/ON6QS8
[00:30] <Gallomimia> its probably started by a system script somewhere
[00:30] <Biessie> Bashing-om : Makes sense
[00:31] <Rojola> Gallomimia, so I can not find out the source?
[00:31] <Gallomimia> https://resources.count.ly/
[00:32] <Gallomimia> i recommend a healthy dose of RTFM and looking for how to stop it or remove it
[00:32] <robertparkerx> This is what systemctl status mysql.server output -- https://d.pr/i/CocDQo
[00:32] <Rojola> Gallomimia, I did not realize there is something outside linux causing this
[00:32] <Gallomimia> i also recommend you figure out where this program came from. what is it doing on your system?
[00:33] <robertparkerx> I think this is related to /var/log/
[00:33] <rfm> robertparkerx, if the system now has networking going, can you "sudo llshw -class network ! nc termbin.com 9999" and post the link, so I can try to see why eth1 disappeared?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> Biessie: Mind you - reverting to as close to default as possible - I have never ever had an issue release upgrading. As a test I have even gone from 12.04 all the way to 18.10 !
[00:33] <Rojola> Gallomimia, I definitely did not install it willingly / knowingly
[00:34] <Gallomimia> well then. you might have much more serious problems than having a runaway process you cannot kill
[00:34] <Gallomimia> but yes. any time you kill a process and it reappears with a new pid
[00:34] <robertparkerx> rfm, llshw command not found
[00:34] <Biessie> Bashing-om : That makes me feel a little better. I dont really modify anything outside of setting up HTTPD and modifying my sshd ports etc
[00:34] <Gallomimia> that means you have some system script keeping it running. it's part of the service manager
[00:34] <Biessie> also installing other servers things like that.
[00:35] <Gallomimia> so perhaps sysctl stop countly will do the trick. who knows
[00:35] <Rojola> Gallomimia, I renamed /usr/bin/countly  to  /usr/bin/TESTING
[00:35] <Rojola> Gallomimia, it still runs
[00:36] <Gallomimia> you're running ubuntu 18.04 or perhaps newer?
[00:36] <rfm> robertparkerx, sorry I typoed, just one l : "sudo lshw -class network | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:36] <Gallomimia> Rojola, what kind of computer is this? is it at home? is it hosted by some provider?
[00:36] <Rojola> Gallomimia, bionic
[00:37] <Rojola> Gallomimia, home / laptop
[00:37] <Rojola> I managed to stop it
[00:37] <Rojola> thank you!
[00:37] <Rojola> however, uninstalling seems to be harder
[00:37] <Rojola> I don't know what package is resides in
[00:38] <Rojola> but it must go - it drains so many resources
[00:38] <robertparkerx> rfm, it's listing options but not posting anything
[00:38] <Gallomimia> uh. there's a command to ask the package manager who put it there. does anyone know that?
[00:39] <Gallomimia> did you install some web hosting packages?
[00:39] <Gallomimia> it's a website analytics engine
[00:39] <Rojola> I ran a "locate" command
[00:39] <Rojola> it seems to be a node module
[00:39] <Gallomimia> nodejs? sounds about right
[00:40] <Rojola> I'm googling how to uninstall a nodejs package
[00:40] <rfm> robertparkerx, strange, maybe it doesn't like the class name.  how about "sudo lshw | nc termbin.com 9999"  it will be (much) longer but should have the info I want
[00:40] <Rojola> brb
[00:40] <coz_> countly analitics
[00:40] <Rojola> npm unintall countly
[00:40] <Rojola> that works!!
[00:41] <Rojola> thank you very much Gallomimia for your help!
[00:41] <Gallomimia> cool
[00:41] <Gallomimia> i learned a lot
[00:41] <Rojola> me too
[00:41] <Rojola> thank you!
[00:41] <Gallomimia> npm node package manager?
[00:41] <Rojola> yes
[00:41] <Rojola> I believe so
[00:42] <Rojola> afk for a moment
[00:45] <robertparkerx> rfm, I cannot find | key on swedish keyboard. This server has a strange keyboard layout.
[00:47] <Gallomimia> no pipe key, no forward slash?
[00:47] <Gallomimia> robertparkerx, i was looking at your previous post of "could not open /var/log/mysql/error.log"
[00:47] <Gallomimia> it seems really obvious to make sure that file is both existing and writable
[00:47] <rfm> robertparkerx, well, I have to bail anyway.  good luck
[00:48] <robertparkerx> Gallomimia, it exist
[00:48] <Gallomimia> writable by the mysql user
[00:48] <robertparkerx> chown mysql:adm /var/log/mysql/error.log
[00:48] <Gallomimia> disk not full?
[00:48] <cyberpolice> on 19.04 live iso, what is the best way to mount the sdb so i can make files on it without sudo all the time
[00:49] <robertparkerx> No
[00:49] <Gallomimia> cyberpolice, if you mount it with a graphical utility, like Disks, it should mount under /media/yourusername/diskname and be owned by you
[00:50] <cyberpolice> Gallomimia: well i tried with udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb but it was still owner of root? isnt it suppose to mount it for me as my user
[00:50] <robertparkerx> Gallomimia, I am getting permission denied for it
[00:50] <robertparkerx> I see that in systemctl status mysql.server
[00:52] <cyberpolice> Gallomimia: i just tried that too, it also makes it owner of root
[00:52] <Gallomimia> i don't think you want a mount -b
[00:52] <cyberpolice> Gallomimia: in fact, /media/ubuntu is owned by root as well
[00:52] <cyberpolice> and so is /media
[00:52] <Gallomimia> that's normal
[00:52] <cyberpolice> did i mess it up somehow
[00:53] <Gallomimia> just the command that looks strange to me
[00:53] <Gallomimia> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/ubuntu/afoldername
[00:54] <Gallomimia> you need to make that folder first
[00:54] <Gallomimia> and you can't mount a disk. you need to mount a partition on that disk
[00:54] <cyberpolice> oh i typod it, i had tried udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1
[00:55] <robertparkerx> I have tried to chown mysql:mysql /var/log/mysql and mysql:adm I still get permission denied
[00:55] <Gallomimia> forgive my ignorance, but what is udisksctl ??
[00:56] <cyberpolice> not sure but someone here told me to use it
[00:57] <Gallomimia> maybe it makes that folder for you.... let's read the man page shall we?
[00:57] <MRD365> ¥£€€¢£¥€€£€£¥¢€¢¥£€¢¥£€¢
[00:57] <MRD365> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----+--
[00:58] <cyberpolice> Gallomimia: yeah it does make the folder, but it was owned by root :/
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: cyberpolice : udisksctl -> the file browser calls the udisks daemon via the udisks library
[00:58] <Gallomimia> the what?
[00:59] <Gallomimia> sounds to me like systemd is looking to depart from gnu
[00:59]  * MRD365 
[00:59] <Gallomimia> kick that guy please
[00:59] <hggdh> MRD365: yes, nice, we see you. Now please keep on topic
[00:59] <MRD365> ok
[01:00] <cyberpolice> i just tried to mkdir /media/ubuntu/mydir; chown -r ubuntu:ubuntu /media/ubuntu/mydir; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/ubuntu/mydir; touch /media/ubuntu/mydir/file and i have no permission
[01:01] <Gallomimia> who owns ubuntu/mydir now?
[01:01] <Gallomimia> second question. what FS is on this device? is it possible the permissions are all set to root before you began?
[01:02] <Gallomimia> or maybe it's a permissionless FS
[01:03] <cyberpolice> its ext4, i dunno but now i just chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /media, and now i can do it
[01:03] <cyberpolice> i guess its solved
[01:04] <robertparkerx> I get `cannot open file '/var/log/mysql/error.log' for error logging: Permission denied` error in systemctl status mysql.server. I have checked the permissions and they seem okay. I have changed it to chown mysql:mysql
[01:04] <Gallomimia> shouldn't have to do that. also, i checked on my own /media/ubuntu currently booted from a LiveUSB and it's both owned by root
[01:04] <robertparkerx> I have ls -la //var/log/mysql
[01:05] <Gallomimia> might want to be sure of who the username is for mysqld process
[01:09] <robertparkerx> Gallomimia, I try to change it to mysql:mysql but when I apt -f install it changed it to mysql:adm
[01:17] <calamari> Eickmeyer: I saw Ubuntu Studio mentioned on the announcement reversing the 32-bit decision. Thank you for helping to get that resolved.
[01:32] <cyberpolice> i want to move files from samba share (windows) to an external hard drive i have. will it make a difference to use rsync? or shall i use mv
[01:34] <phantom_data34> Is it true that installing 19.04 chromium-browser via apt actually installs the snap version?
[01:37] <ryuo> phantom_data34: it shouldn't be. apt isn't for snap stuff.
[01:38] <ryuo> though apt can install the snap software.
[01:39] <phantom_data34> Trying to decide if im going to use ubuntu or debian. I haven't used ubuntu in a while but I just saw a yt video where the guy pretty much made it seem like they are trying to sneak snaps onto people's systems.
[01:39] <phantom_data34> would rather use ubuntu but obv cant have that.
[01:41] <ryuo> phantom_data34: sneak? i guess they mean snap software comes preinstalled though no snaps do that i can tell.
[01:42] <ryuo> phantom_data34: link? also, should probably take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <phantom_data34> Like I like snaps for the server. On my desktop id rather use traditional packages. Made it seem like even if I was going out of my way to use apt, I would have to really be paying attention or snaps would end up on my system.
[01:43] <ryuo> phantom_data34: eh, i can't really say what they meant without seeing it.
[01:44] <ryuo> phantom_data34: all i can say is i've seen them make snapd a "recommended" package for official flavors. but that doesn't come with any snaps installed afaik.
[01:45] <ryuo> meaning it's optional but gets pulled in if apt is configured to install recommendations automatically.
[01:47] <ryuo> iirc, i found i could blacklist snaps from my custom installs of ubuntu.
[01:50] <phantom_data34> thanks. I'm prob gonna use the minimal install and do as much as possible manually. I like Ubuntu so i'll prob just setup a machine and give the benefit of the doubt. From what u said looks like its fine atm.
[01:51] <ryuo> phantom_data34: you familiar with debootstrap?
[01:51] <ryuo> i've used it many times to install stuff, but it requires some experience to configure it.
[01:52] <ryuo> it install ubuntu-minimal by default.
[01:52] <ryuo> you can blacklist packages by configuring apt to "pin" them to -1 or so. they'll never get chosen then.
[01:52] <ryuo> though if it's a critical package it might make some things impossible.
[01:53] <Bashing-om> phantom_data34: One can also purge snap from the system :)
[01:54] <phantom_data34> naah I normally use bsd on my desktop. I only use linux on the server and just use aws' ubuntu or whatever. In a situation where it would be way more convenient to use linux for a while tho. I'm looking at debootstrap tho and it looks interesting.
[01:54] <ryuo> phantom_data34: it's also possible to blacklist the telemetry packages they added in 18.04+.
[01:54] <phantom_data34> Bashing-om: yeah idk if im gonna remove it tho and then apt install -y chromium, and it goes and auto installs a bunch of snaps on my machine
[01:55] <ryuo> phantom_data34: if you want me to grab my notes on this method, i can send it to you in PM or so.
[01:55] <phantom_data34> ryuo: yeah im too much of an ubuntu noob i think. I'm prob going to end up with stuff running on my machine that I would want to turn off but im unaware of
[01:55] <phantom_data34> yeah im already throwing down everything you said in a text file. If you just want to pm me links or whatever
[01:56] <ryuo> well, it's mostly stuff i keep offline. i don't keep online copies of it.
[01:56] <ryuo> and it always needs adjusting for the specific system it's for though some of it stays the same.
[01:57] <ryuo> ok, found it. sec.
[01:57] <ryuo> the one i used for a desktop (laptop) install
[01:58] <robertparkerx> Can anyone help? I'm upgrading 14.04 to 16.04 and I got everything working. I'm back into default console. The only problem is when installing mysql-server-5.7 I get a permission denied error and it won't complete the installation.
[01:58] <phantom_data34> sweet I'm going to be installing on a laptop
[01:58] <robertparkerx> I checked with ls -la and it appears its chown mysql:adm
[02:00] <Biessie> Worked no issues
[02:00] <Biessie> 18.04 -> 18.10 -> 19.04
[02:01] <Bashing-om> !yay | Biessie
[02:02] <Biessie> Excited
[02:04] <rfm> robertparkerx, you're running the install as root, right?  so it
[02:04] <rfm> robertparkerx, so it should be hard to get a permission error.  Have you determined what file is giving the error?
[02:05] <robertparkerx> rfm, /var/log/mysql/error.log
[02:09] <rfm> robertparkerx, that same /var/log they've moved to /mnt/sdb1.  I wonder if they mounted it with some funky options.   What does "grep /mnt/sdb1 /proc/mounts" say?
[02:11] <robertparkerx> rfm, https://d.pr/i/tvU0OO
[02:11] <rfm> robertparkerx, that looks ok
[02:23] <robertparkerx> I'm lost on what to do. I've changed permissions. The installer seems to change them tto `mysql:adm` no matter what I change it to.
[02:36] <Gallomimia> that's probably a good user and group. i think you should try to do something as that user, pretend you're trying to open the file and see what the issue really is
[02:36] <Gallomimia> maybe use some file inspecting tools? like stat and some other things i don't know about
[02:37] <Gallomimia> it sounds like the filesystem has an issue, or maybe there's a lack of permission in one of the nested dirs?
[02:39] <rfm> robertparkerx, sometimes the problem is with a enclosing directory.   "ls -lad /var/log/ /var/log/mysql /var/log/error.log' please (the extra / on /var/log is so we get the permissons on the target dir, not the meaningless symlink permissions)
[02:41] <robertparkerx> rfm, https://d.pr/i/sNV5w9
[02:42] <Gallomimia> say how do i install a snap that i already have on another drive? i can copy it into the directory but the command snap install vlc just downloads it
[02:43] <Gallomimia> is it just me or is my internet going supremely slow?
[02:44] <Gallomimia> that's the same question twice
[02:47] <rfm> robertparkerx, don't see anything wrong there
[02:52] <rfm> robertparkerx, I wonder if the mysql user needs to be in the adm group in order for the sticky group bit to work?  (I wish I had a working mysql install to compare to, but I don't even have a 16.04 system anymore)
[02:53] <rfm> robertparkerx, what does "groups mysql" say?
[02:53] <robertparkerx> https://d.pr/i/2zPehL
[02:53] <robertparkerx> Is that the problem?
[02:53] <robertparkerx> mysql:mysql
[02:55] <rfm> robertparkerx, well I guess it's easy (and not risky) just to try adding mysql to the adm group:   "adduser mysql adm", then try the install again
[02:57] <robertparkerx> rfm, I still get permission denied.
[03:01] <rfm> robertparkerx, I'm out of ideas.
[03:11] <robertparkerx> rfm, thanks for your help!
[03:12] <robertparkerx> Honestly, thanks a lot!
[03:47] <blaster> what's the proper way to run something on startup? I tried adding a service to /etc/init and then it says not found when I run service ... start
[03:48] <ryuo> blaster: these days? systemd service files.
[03:48] <ryuo> blaster: or, you can use /etc/rc.local if it's a one time per boot command.
[03:49] <blaster> it's just to start a chrome remote debugging instance, one liner
[03:49] <blaster> I'll try rc.local.  Thank you.
[03:49] <WoC> for functional OpenCL, would i have to switch to rocm ?
[03:50] <WoC> for amd apu/gpu that is
[03:51] <WoC> blaster, afaik per default rc.local is not enabled
[03:54] <blaster> Yeah I just found that out.
[03:54] <blaster> So you have to go to the trouble of creating a systemd service just to run a command on boot?
[03:54] <WoC> or enable the rc.local from the service file for it
[03:56] <WoC> i.e. /usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service
[03:57] <WoC> May the force be with you blaster
[03:57] <blaster> By the looks of it I'm gonna need it
[03:57] <WoC> as do I, as do I
[03:58] <blaster> ftlog..
[03:58] <blaster> Jul  8 03:58:08 ci rc.local[1331]: [0708/035808.917355:ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(89)] Running as root without --no-sandbox is not supported. See https://crbug.com/638180.
[03:59] <WoC> Hmmm, user crontab ?
[04:00] <WoC> or run it with su - user -c command
[04:00] <blaster> my only user is root
[04:01] <WoC> oh
[04:01] <WoC> hack the source and rebuild ;)
[04:01] <blaster> lmfao
[04:01] <blaster> NO
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> keep it ubuntu support related please
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> blaster: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[04:03] <blaster> 19.04
[04:03] <WoC> lotuspsychje, wb. Any suggestions on working OpenCL for amd apu/gpu, Would i need to switch to rocm or is there an easy way ? (19.04)
[04:32] <WoC> Anyone recall at what version ubuntu switched to systemd ?
[04:33] <Diebuntu> Hi! I have a directory that's full of subdirectories and in those subdirectories there's only one .png file with the name preview.png. I want to move all the .png from all the subdirectories to a single directory. Is there a way I can move all files from all different folders and rename them at the same time?
[04:34] <Diebuntu> Using catfish, I was able to get all files listed, but I'm unable to move them at the same time because they all have the same name.
[04:36] <WoC> Diebuntu, i take it all the files named preview.png does not have the same contents ?
[04:37] <Diebuntu> That's right, they're all different images.
[04:47] <Diebuntu> Could there be a command like ls -R mixed with mv?
[04:52] <tarzeau> my /var/log/syslog fills up / with audit: type=1400 audit(1562560390.012:723): apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/run/nslcd/socket" pid=2846 comm="cupsd" requested_mask="w" denied_mask="w" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[04:52] <tarzeau> 6 GB/day
[04:53] <rfm> WoC: 15.04 (Vivid) was first systemd, confirmed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[04:55] <Diebuntu> I found this command, could this work $ find . -iname "*dbg*" -exec rename _dbg.txt .txt '{}' \;
[04:58] <Diebuntu> Never mind, it's not going to work, I'll just be renaming them, but they'll still have the same name.
[05:00] <robertparkerx> rfm, I got the installer working by changing the error_log path to /var/lib/mysql
[05:12] <mplsjoker> anyone know how to enhance the video playback quality in ubutu?” #the current video format is
[05:12] <mplsjoker> 3gpp
[05:13] <tarzeau> mplsjoker: using which player? on what hardware? video driver?
[05:13] <mouses> Hi all!  I'm on a ideapad Y510P running 18.04.2 -> very happy, except for my trackpad - it's just a pain.  Selecting just a few words out of a paragraph is a hot mess, it's too 'twitchy' and selects lines above/below it and is just unworkable.  Using the normal settings menu, I decreased the sensitivity - but that's not the issue, even at super slow acceleration it's just twitchy for fine control.  Here's
[05:13] <mouses> xinput list-props of the device: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FtzpdPjWJH/
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> mouses: did you make a bug yet?
[05:15] <mouses> lotuspsychje: No, as I don't think it's a 'bug' as much as it's just my settings/hardware/configuration
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> mouses: if something isnt working by default, i would consider that as a bug
[05:19] <mouses> lotuspsychje: it's not that it's 'not working' -> it's just a bit jumpy/twitchy for my taste, even at super low acceleration in the settings
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> mouses: maybe some tweaking in dconf-editor ?
[05:22] <mouses> lotuspsychje: maybe!  poking about now.
[05:26] <Bashing-om> mouses: trackpad should "just work" . What shows " dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-libinput " for a status ?
[05:26] <mouses> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zpZdDgpRT/
[05:27] <mouses> Bashing-om: it works, it just gets super jumpy and twitchy with one finger held down and the other dragging to select text
[05:27] <mouses> like picking 4 words out of the middle of a paragraph is a nightmare
[05:29] <Bashing-om> mouses: Well ! the input controller is not installed ! - have a read ' apt show xserver-xorg-input-libinput ' .
[05:30] <mouses> Bashing-om: that's weird, this is a nearly totally stock install
[05:30] <mouses> like it's been running for 2 days
[05:32] <Bashing-om> mouses: Well, all I can say is install the package and see the effects :)
[05:32] <mouses> let's find out!
[05:32] <mouses> oh no
[05:33] <mouses> Bashing-om: grrr I hate apt with a burning rage
[05:33] <mouses> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CPdQKkhYSK/
[05:33] <mouses> ^^
[05:34] <Bashing-om> mouses: You do not even want to consider what life was like before a package manager :P
[05:34] <mouses> Bashing-om: Oh, I remember :)
[05:34] <mouses> I'm just bad with apt, totally my fault
[05:34] <mouses> how should I go about fixing that?
[05:35] <Bashing-om> mouses: does not look real serious :P .. what shows ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' see what else we have to deal with.
[05:36] <mouses> 'full-upgrade' would take me to 19.0.x though, right?
[05:36] <mouses> or is that dist-upgrade
[05:36] <mouses> don't want to move to non LTS
[05:37] <mouses> Bashing-om: Regardless, nothing - update went fine, full-upgrade shows some leftover junk that can be autoremoved and 0 new, 0 upgraded, ran just fine
[05:43] <Bashing-om> mouses: "full-upgrade" just deals with things that "upgrade" will not deal with for the current install only. Now as we look good in these respects . try ' sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core ' :P
[05:52] <Bashing-om> mouses: You still keeping up ?
[05:53] <mouses> Bashing-om: yup!  Sorry, had to feed a cat :)
[05:54] <mouses> Bashing-om: okay, that worked
[05:54] <Bashing-om> mouses: :D Little ones.
[05:54] <gigabyte> can I talk in this channel
[05:54] <gigabyte> this is only the 4th damn channel ive tried already
[05:54] <Bashing-om> mouses: Now xserver-xorg-input-libinput "
[05:54] <gigabyte> its either +R +B + fucking i or its idle
[05:54] <mouses> Bashing-om: just installed that as well
[05:54] <gigabyte> and im SICK OF IT
[05:54] <mouses> gigabyte: we hear you loud and clear, might want to avoid the language here
[05:54] <Bashing-om> gigabyte: Looks readable here to me :P
[05:55] <gigabyte> kill me
[05:55] <mouses> Bashing-om: should I give it a reboot now?
[05:55] <gigabyte> well, I just got sick of win 10 so I wanna learn more bash
[05:55] <Bashing-om> mouses: Reboot for good effect and let's see :D
[05:56] <gigabyte> ill be asking lots of questions so please wow me with "how good ba]sh is"
[05:56] <gigabyte> bash*
[05:56] <mouses> Bashing-om: let's find out
[05:56] <mouses> back in two short shakes of a short sheeps tail!
[05:57] <Bashing-om> gigabyte: WQe do not do that - use it and you tell us :D
[05:57] <gigabyte> I neeed someone to teach me bash
[05:57] <gigabyte> :/
[05:57] <blackflow> gigabyte: ask mr. google?
[05:57] <gigabyte> so I thought going to a distro specific channel would be best
[05:58] <blackflow> gigabyte: so you want us to re-type here, for you, multi-page tutorials with examples, thta you can readily find online?
[05:58] <gigabyte> and since this channel already taught me before
[05:58] <blackflow> I'll do it. 200€/hr.
[05:58] <gigabyte> no man
[05:58] <Bashing-om> gigabyte: See: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide . The better tutorial that I am aware of.
[05:58] <mouses> Bashing-om: Ok, boot is normal, all is well - no change to mouse behavior though
[05:59] <gigabyte> checking
[05:59] <mouses> Bashing-om: may just be me not being used to this touchpad
[05:59] <blackflow> gigabyte: and dont' forget, there's #bash where you can ask experts about particular issues, just don't expect essays.
[05:59] <mouses> gigabyte: I'll teach for $25/hr USD but you might want to head to #bash or use the web
[05:59] <gigabyte> yep but its idle
[06:00] <mouses> type what you want to learn about into the googlebings
[06:00] <Bashing-om> mouses: :( disappointing for sure . That was the only thought I had .. As I have no touchpad I can not look at what might be.
[06:00] <mouses> Bashing-om: hey, it's okay - we fixed that package error!
[06:00] <mouses> Bashing-om: It COULD just be me getting used to this new rig
[06:01] <mouses> it just makes me a insane that a laptop that is still worth a easy $1100 USD had a crap touchpad compared to my $150 USD chromebook
[06:01] <mouses> lol
[06:01] <gigabyte> is there a difference between pwd and ~
[06:01] <mouses> pwd = present working directory
[06:01] <gigabyte> yes
[06:01] <mouses> ~ = whatever that user's home is set to
[06:01] <tarzeau> $HOME usually
[06:01] <gigabyte> ok I see
[06:02] <mouses> hence why if logged in as 'mouses' I can nano ~/Documents/note.txt vs nano /home/mouses/Documents/note.txt
[06:35] <za1b1tsu> so I updated my 18.10 to dingo and during the upgrade I got this https://ibb.co/4fhjYYR . After that it rebooted and I have dingo now, anything to worry about? Something I should fix?
[06:47] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: run apt update and apt upgrade, and see if it complains about anything.
[06:49] <za1b1tsu> blackflow: No issues: All packages are up to date.
[06:49] <za1b1tsu> so I guess I can move on with my life
[06:49] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: probably. just a question, did you have a PPA enabled when you upgraded?
[06:49] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, multiple
[06:49] <blackflow> and now they're disabled?
[06:50] <blackflow> because if you had software installed from PPAs, and now they're disabled, you have a bit of a problem there. It's possible there's package versioning or dependency collision that was expressed during upgrade, but not now, with PPAs disabled.
[07:02] <WoC> any suggestions on where i can change my clock settings so the hwclock is stored in localtime instead of utc ?
[07:03] <WoC> dual boot with Winblows
[07:03] <blackflow> WoC: timedatectl
[07:03] <blackflow> WoC: check the manpage and read about set-local-rtc  option
[07:05] <WoC> oh ok, ty
[07:11] <WoC> thanks again blackflow
[07:11] <WoC> works
[07:11] <blackflow> you're welcome.
[07:46] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, how can I see if have disabled PPAs?
[07:47] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: `apt policy` will show you enabled repos
[07:47] <blackflow> or just look through /etc/apt/sources.list(.d)
[07:50] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, apt policy shows only ubuntu sources, but sources.list.d/ shows a lot of ppas
[07:50] <za1b1tsu> that means they are all disabled?
[07:50] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: are they commented out with # in the sources.list ?
[07:52] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, they are not even present
[07:52] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: I don't get it. you just said "but sources.list.d/ shows a lot of ppas"
[07:52] <blackflow> are the lines commented out in those files?
[07:54] <za1b1tsu> sorry I thought you ment commented out in sources.list
[07:54] <za1b1tsu> this is an example: https://pastebin.com/iJEXcDw9
[07:55] <za1b1tsu> in .distUpgrade and in .save are not commented out
[07:55] <za1b1tsu> but in .list it is
[07:57] <za1b1tsu> this means they are disabled?
[07:59] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: I think so, yes, only .list files are sourced from there, so...
[08:00] <za1b1tsu> so I should uncomment what I want correct?
[08:00] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: you'll have to update the sources, eg. from "cosmic" to "disco" or whatever the correct respo is for those specific PPAs for disco
[08:00] <blackflow> then run apt update and see if there are upgrades (apt update will tell you)
[08:01] <Bashing-om> za1b1tsu: be good to check that the PPAs are still supported in disco.
[08:07] <Bashing-om> za1b1tsu: For instance : http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/ - this one is supported in disco :)
[08:07] <za1b1tsu> yes, thak you
[08:07] <za1b1tsu> package managet in linux is interesting
[08:07] <za1b1tsu> *management
[08:08] <za1b1tsu> wonder which distro handles everything for you
[08:08] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: Windows. :)
[08:09] <za1b1tsu> lol
[08:10] <blackflow> It's simple in this case. PPAs are external repos. The Ubuntu upgrade process cannot possibly know how to handle the potentially infinite combinations when PPAs are in question, so it disables it. It is up to you, the user, to re-configure and re-enable what's eventually needed aftre the upgrade.
[08:11] <za1b1tsu> one thing though the update went smoother then I thought, heard some horror stories
[08:11] <blackflow> The distro also can't know what you really want. do you want to continue using them? do you need to? Is the software from them now part of the main distribution? And an infinite set of other questions only the user can answer.
[08:13] <chieta> i could ssh to a box from my localhost... the box have access to another network... how to bridging so my localhost could reach to another network?
[08:14] <blackflow> chieta: "bridge" for SSH connections or network bridge?
[08:16] <chieta> ssh connections
[08:17] <blackflow> chieta: google for "ssh jump host" then.
[08:19] <za1b1tsu> blackflow, thank you for the heads up regarding ppas
[08:19] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: you're welcome
[08:41] <Kendos-Kenlen> Hello :)
[08:43] <Kendos-Kenlen> Does someone knows what could cause the recovery menu to not show up? I did an OEM install and recovery mode works while in OEM mode but does not when the real user account is created. The option is available in grub, has "recovery" as parameter, but nothing show up and I don't really know where to find infos about the error.
[08:58] <Gosset> Hello. Which wifi USB dongle do you recommend for Ubuntu 18.04?
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> Gosset: most dongles will work by default on ubuntu
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> Gosset: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[09:01] <Gosset> most dongles on Amazon?
[09:01] <Gosset> well thanks
[09:12] <Kendos-Kenlen> Okay, I found the issue and it has just been fixed a hour ago : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/friendly-recovery/+bug/1821252 :D
[09:39] <chieta> cool for the ssh jumping blackflow
[09:40] <chieta> should i ssh-copy-id also on the other network also?
[09:41] <blackflow> chieta: I guess so. You have to set the "other network" just as if you are accessing it directly, meaning it needs a valid login with a public key (or password if you really must).
[10:53] <hortiel> hi for emacs I have color issues.
[10:53] <hortiel> how do I save the file, where I change colors,fonts,etc ... the file is still plain ascii upon opening and all my changes are lost for background,foreground - colors... the same for bold,italic
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> hortiel: try #emacs
[10:54] <hortiel> no one there
[10:54] <hortiel> lol
[10:54] <hortiel> but this is a generic editing question...
[10:55] <blackflow> it's generic for emacs.
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> hortiel: we focus on ubuntu support questions here
[11:40] <multifractal> Is there a way of changing the CTRL+ALT+CURSOR shortcut to switch between spaces with the Unity Tweak Tool, in Ubuntu 16.04?
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> multifractal: maybe look into compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> multifractal: and check settings in the unity plugin
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[12:57] <JuJuBee> I cannot seem to mirror my display when I connect to a projector.  Any thoughts?  I can only extend
[13:01] <JuJuBee> both resolutions are 1920x1080.  refresh rates are different and cannot be same (one goes up to 60 other only has 75)
[13:23] <Gosset> Hello. I want to use Mate DE. What do you recommend, install Mate DE on Ubuntu 18, or install Ubuntu Mate 18? THanks
[13:23] <Gosset> [Ubuntu Mate LTS is 3 years only]
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> Gosset: It typically is better to install the Flavor of Ubuntu that has the DE you prefer upfront.
[13:24] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | Gosset
[13:24] <Gosset> ok
[13:24] <Gosset> but installing Mate DE on Ubuntu gives me 5 years LTS
[13:25] <Gosset> isn't it?
[13:25] <zamba> the current gnome-session package is 3.28.. but there has been some critical bug fixes in 3.30 that i need to have installed
[13:25] <Gosset> instead of 3
[13:25] <zamba> how can i get that installed on 18.04?
[13:25] <leftyfb> Gosset: Ubuntu 18.10 will no longer be supported by the end of this month
[13:25] <Gosset> 18.04
[13:25] <Gosset> I meant that
[13:25] <leftyfb> Gosset: ok, you need to make that clear
[13:26] <leftyfb> Gosset: if you need LTS, then I suggest installing Ubuntu 18.04 and then installing the MATE DE
[13:26] <Gosset> that's what I wanted to read
[13:26] <Gosset> xD
[13:26] <leftyfb> Gosset: though, that would limit your support to the underlying OS, not anything related to the DE
[13:26] <Gosset> ok
[13:27] <leftyfb> !latest | zamba
[13:27] <Gosset> because Gnome 3 keeps the top bar and you can't even customize it right?
[13:27] <Gosset> with Gnome 3 you can't create new bars
[13:27] <zamba> !backports
[13:27] <leftyfb> Gosset: https://extensions.gnome.org/
[13:28] <Gosset> I know there are extensions
[13:28] <Gosset> but I've google it and it seems the top bar remains
[13:28] <zamba> !backports
[13:28] <zamba> ubottu dead?
[13:29] <Gosset> I don't start a flame, but I don't see Gnome 3 for desktop
[13:29] <Gosset> *want
[13:29] <leftyfb> Gosset: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/
[13:29] <Gosset> it hides it, it won't remove it
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> zamba: The bot will only respond to the first request for within a given time frame. And the bot already responded to your inquery. If you wish to query the bot more frequently, please consider "/msg ubottu !backports"
[13:30] <leftyfb> Gosset: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029881/how-to-hide-top-bar-in-ubuntu-18-04   there's several solutions in the top google result here
[13:31] <Gosset> I read that page
[13:32] <Gosset> it's a pity the desktop metaphor was killed
[13:33] <leftyfb> Gosset: did you try dash to panel?
[13:37] <Gosset> I didn't
[13:37] <Gosset> and can you add an extra panel to the left?
[13:45] <pizzaiolo> anyone here successfully get fractional scaling to work on 18.04 w/ X11? I found a gsetting command that is supposed to enable it but it isn't working for me..
[13:46] <Gosset> thanks leftyfb anyway
[14:30] <magic_ninja_work> herro
[14:37] <sacarde> hi
[14:38] <sacarde> do you suggest me a channel about ubuntu on macintel ?
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> !mac | sarcastico
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> sorry sarcastico ... wrong tab complete
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> !mac | sacarde
[14:43] <sacarde> ok, thanks
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> sacarde: Outside of that, I'm not aware of any dedicated Mac Ubuntu support channels. You are free to ask here as there are volunteers familiar with installing and working with Apple products and Ubuntu.
[15:05] <chair_> wow the nickserv register process is really an efficient newbie filter
[15:06] <lordcirth> chair_, unfortunately there's been a ton of spambots
[15:07] <chair_> does #ubuntu have a Telegram bridge like #kubuntu has?
[15:08] <OerHeks> chair_, no, and happy about it
[15:08] <chair_> Anyway, I need assistance with a broken boot. Here is the boot summary https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x26CZMD7Ty/
[15:08] <OerHeks> those are mostly spammers
[15:11] <lordcirth> chair_, ok, so you've got grub on /dev/sda, which is an SSD, but there's no bootable partition there. What are your partitions *supposed* to look like?
[15:12] <OerHeks> chair_, tell us more about your system, legacy or uefi boot?
[15:14] <chair_> lordcirth: OerHeks: sda is supposed to be oly /home. It should be an UEFI boot
[15:14] <chair_> lordcirth: OerHeks: sda is supposed to be only /home. It should be an UEFI boot
[15:15] <lordcirth> Ok, well then the grub on sda is trying to boot from /home
[15:15] <OerHeks> EFI partition is not at the beginning of the drive
[15:15] <chair_> lordcirth: OerHeks: boot-repair is installing grub everywhere
[15:15] <OerHeks> ( sdb)
[15:16] <chair_> OerHeks: It has to be?
[15:17] <OerHeks> yes, i think so
[15:17] <OerHeks> !uefi
[15:17] <chair_> sda2: /home
[15:40] <mr_lou> I don't suppose anyone here have experience using mkudffs? :->
[15:41] <mr_lou> I'm trying to make a WORM device (Write Once Read Many) on an SD card / USB Flash.
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: It's often better to ask your question, instead of asking if anyone knows anything. If a volunteer knows something on the topic they'll reply in channel. Add as many details as you can to explain what you are attempting to do and what your end goal is
[15:43] <mr_lou> mkudffs --media-type=worm --blocksize=512 --mode=0555 /dev/sdx
[15:43] <mr_lou> This command fails with: mkudffs: Error: Not enough blocks on device
[15:43] <mr_lou> So I add a block-count at the end of the command.
[15:43] <mr_lou> mkudffs --media-type=worm --blocksize=512 --mode=0555 /dev/sdx 3000
[15:43] <mr_lou> This works! \o/   It's now a WORM device (meaning you can't delete files from it, neither on Windows nor Linux. Great!).
[15:44] <manlin> Hi, I am trying to upgrade Ubuntu from 14.04.6 to 16.04 LTS. apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; init 6; do-release-upgrade -d. But I see "No new release found". Any thoughts? Prompt=lts is set
[15:44] <mr_lou> BUT: 3000 blocks * 512 bytes is only 1,5 mb....  and there's 1 GB in total on the drive. But using any number above 3000 gives the same error message:
[15:44] <mr_lou> mkudffs: Error: Not enough blocks on device
[15:44] <mr_lou> Anyone have any thoughts about that?
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: Take a look at "man mkudffs" ... Valid block size vales are 1024, 2048 and 4096 bytes per block.
[15:47] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, I know, but I'm forced to use 512 for compatibility reasons. Windows refuse to read anything but 512 byte block sizes.
[15:47] <OerHeks> manlin, Install the update-manager-core package if it is not already installed.
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: The tool does not support 512, it is likely defaulting to its 2048 value because it does not support 512
[15:47] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes .. maybe '"For any new version"  works better?
[15:47] <chair_> the boot-repair tool says BIOS-Boot detected You may want to retry after deactivation the searate boot/efi partition.
[15:47] <manlin> OerHeks, I already installed it.
[15:48] <chair_> what is that supposed to mean?
[15:48] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, Oh... well....  mkudffs --help lists 512 as supported.
[15:48] <manlin> OerHeks, sorry it was already installed on the system
[15:48] <OerHeks> manlin, not sure now, maybe you need to follow the EOL upgrade factoid
[15:48] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> !info mkudffs
[15:49] <dreamscrypt> o_O
[15:49] <tfgbd_> Does Intel connected standby work in any Ubuntus or do I need Android first?
[15:49] <manlin> OerHeks, I see.. Let me check
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: that application is not provided in the Ubuntu software library. You will have to contact the source of where you obtained your installation (PPA maintainer or project owners website) for assistance
[15:50] <mr_lou> I see. I don't remember adding any additionals PPA, but I'm getting old, so...
[15:51] <mr_lou> Alright. I'll write a mail to the author.
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: apologies, mkuddfs is provided through the udftools software package. So it is available in the library
[15:52] <chair_> New boot summary https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDD4cpZfRK
[15:53] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, It's ok. I've already written a mail to the author. Fingers crossed.
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: But the help does go on to further explain the blocksize, and that it must match the devices logical sector sizes. You will have to consult the manual on that disk to see what the sector sizes are. You won't be able to force a difference size if the disk doesn't support it
[15:55] <tfgbd_> Does Intel connected standby work in any Ubuntus or do I need Android first?
[15:56] <OerHeks> tfgbd_, please colaborate, Intel connected standby  ?
[15:57] <OerHeks> mr_lou, pragmaticenigma .. i think he made a typo
[15:57] <OerHeks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/mkudffs.8.html
[15:58] <OerHeks> -d
[15:58] <manlin> OerHeks, thanks for the direction. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades is helping and upgrade in progress
[15:58] <OerHeks> manlin, have fun!
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: "Connected Standby" is a Microsoft Windows feature, and only available for the Windows OS. The physical device will also have to support the power management feature, and cannot support any other power management state.
[16:00] <chair_> Hi, I added a new boot/efi partition and used boot-repair, but the system is still not booting. Would be glad if soeone could take a look
[16:00] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, The drive's logical blocksize is listed in dmesg when inserted. But using this number doesn't help.
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | chair_
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> mr_lou: that is why I suggested that you look up the documentation for the disk. It may not be detected properly and only the documentation for the device is going to have the true value
[16:02] <mr_lou> pragmaticenigma, Maybe not. But I've tried a few different ones with the same result.
[16:02] <mr_lou> Sounds more probable it's the application.
[16:02] <mr_lou> Anyway. I'll see what the author replies.
[16:03] <tfgbd_> OerHeks: It lets you play music/videos when the laptop is in your purse
[16:03] <tfgbd_> Closed.
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: it's more complicated than that and I am not aware of any support for the feature in the Linux ecosystem.
[16:08] <tfgbd_> It works on Android.
[16:08] <tfgbd_> It's called Modern Standby now.
[16:08] <lordcirth> tfgbd_, android on x86, or only ARM?
[16:09] <tfgbd_> It's on x86, ARM, MIPS and some say SH4
[16:09] <tfgbd_> Yes x86
[16:09] <tfgbd_> It depends on the ROM you install.
[16:10] <tfgbd_> It's also on commercial laptops:  https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/how-to-use-modern-standby
[16:11] <tfgbd_> If you want I'll try a live usb and see which laptops work with it in the latest Ubuntu
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: I will help save you the trouble... Ubuntu Desktop and Server do not support it
[16:24] <robertparkerx> I upgraded a environment. I upgraded the OS, apache, MySQL and PHP. I'm debugging and notice that I get the error `Failed to get DB handle: could not find driver` -- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JxMZ3hydmz/ . I think its MSSQL.
[16:24] <chair_> Hi, I added a new boot/efi partition and used boot-repair, but the system is still not booting. Would be glad if soeone could take a look: boot summary https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dhfQMyGgGX
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: Can you please describe what "upgraded the OS, apache, MySQL and PHP" means?
[16:29] <robertparkerx> pragmaticenigma, I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04
[16:29] <robertparkerx> I upgraded apache. I upgraded MySQL to 5.7 and PHP to 7.3
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> !info php xenial
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> !info mysql xenial
[16:30] <pragmaticenigma> !info mysqld xenial
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: Those versions are not available in the software repositories for Xenial. Which means they were installed from another source. You will either need to remove the PPAs you added and downgrade to the provided versions, or Install Ubuntu 18.04 which includes newer versions of MySQL and PHP
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: This channel focuses it's support to officially provided software packages in the Ubuntu version's repositories. If you install version from PPAs or other sources, you will have to contact those maintainers, project developers for assistance.
[16:36] <robertparkerx> I was just getting help yesterday
[16:37] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: Whom ever provided that assistance did so on their own accord
[16:37] <becool> can landscape monitor and update any linux distro or just ubuntu?
[16:39] <becool> also, can landscape rollback updates if it breaks an application?
[16:41] <pragmaticenigma> becool: Landscape is a tool provided by Canonical the makers of Ubuntu. You might be able to install the client application on other distributions, but it will be limited on its functionality as each distribution makes customizations that are different than Ubuntu. The rest of your inquiry can be answered by reading the documentation for Landscape located here: https://landscape.canonical.com/
[16:41] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma / robertparkerx: i believe that's a misunderstanding. Ubuntu 16.04 '("xenial") does indeed provide mysql-server 5.7 (https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/mysql-server). it does not, however, provide php 7.3 (but php 7.0).
[16:41] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/php7.0
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: MySQL server must have gotten upgrade since 18.04 release... I remember it being 5.5 or 5.6 when I left it
[16:42] <magic_ninja_work> pragmaticenigma, i think they moved over to mariadb
[16:42] <magic_ninja_work> upstream
[16:43] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: yes, mysql-server would have been upgraded during an upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04. and 16.04 would have ended up on mysql 5.7. is this what you mean?
[16:43] <pragmaticenigma> no
[16:44] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: hmm what do you mean then?
[16:45] <tomreyn> magic_ninja_work: mariadb is an alternative package available iun ubuntu. my understanding is that the "mysql-server" package still installs the oracle community edition.
[16:45] <pragmaticenigma> magic_ninja_work: no, there has not been a movement over to mariadb... that is a separate installation package and requires a user to explicitly install that package.
[16:46] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: What I'm saying is recall Ubuntu 16.04 coming with an earlier version of mysql-server when 16.04 was first released. A later release may have been included in a later point release of Ubuntu 16.04.
[16:47] <robertparkerx> It's the release I got when doing `do-dist-upgrade`
[16:49] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: oh i see. well, at least we can state that now 16.04 does provide mysql 5.7 packages (but not php 7.3)
[16:49] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: are you sure you got php 7.3 though?
[16:49] <robertparkerx> No I added the PPA
[16:49] <tomreyn> the one and only?
[16:50] <robertparkerx> Yes
[16:50] <robertparkerx> Just for PHP
[16:50] <tomreyn> my point: there are gazillions of PPAs ;)
[16:50] <robertparkerx> I'm missing the mssql driver I think
[16:50] <robertparkerx> Oh wait, I'll get the specific one
[16:50] <tomreyn> so yes, indeed, your php won't be supported here normally, since we don't normally support PPAs.
[16:50] <robertparkerx>  Ondrey's PPA
[16:52] <robertparkerx> Everything else is working now
[16:52] <tomreyn> Ondřej Surý's PPA is somewhat widely used, I'd be personally happy to support this
[16:52] <tomreyn> your mysql (not mssql) server is the one from ubuntu proper?
[16:52] <robertparkerx> Yes
[16:52] <robertparkerx> I got it working yesterday
[16:52] <robertparkerx> It had trouble
[16:53] <robertparkerx> I had to change the error_log path to /var/lib/mysql/
[16:53] <robertparkerx> I don't know why /var/log/ kept giving problems
[16:53] <robertparkerx> it was the symlink
[16:53] <sixth> can someone help me with setting up fips on xenial? im trying to follow the documentation (docs.ubuntu.com/security-certs/en/fips-16.html) but cant see how to request permission to access ppa:ubuntu-advantage/fips
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> sixth: Support for PPA needs to be handled by the maintainer of the PPA. you will have to look at the PPA page for their contact information and reach out to them directly
[16:54] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: the error message you posted at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JxMZ3hydmz/ suggests that php's PDO module was unable to communitcate the mysql server. have you checked the state of the mysql server, reviewed its logs, yet?
[16:54] <sixth> thanks pragmaticenigma but i dont see how i can find the maintainer or even the ppa page
[16:55] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, the mysql server is working fine. It's MSSQL that it's trying to connect to through PDO.
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> sixth: You will need to contact your Canonical representative for help. Ubuntu advantage is a paid support option provided by Canonical.
[16:56] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: normally mysql-server on ubuntu should log to /var/log/mysql - but mysql server may be unable to write there during its early startup, which is why it may need to output critical errors to the mysql data directory, which is /var/lib/mysql
[16:56] <sixth> pragmaticenigma thanks ill contact canonical directly
[16:57] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: oh well i don't think diagnosing php application errors where those are failing to connect to a remote mssql server are in scope here.
[16:57] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, oh okay
[16:59] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: so i suggest you seek support from the php applications' support channels, and maybe from https://launchpad.net/~ondrej ("I'm available for some (light) freelance work related to the packaging I do").
[17:00] <tomreyn> or start by building a simple mssql connection test case on your own.
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> quetion though... robertparkerx why are you calling mssql... that is for Microsoft SQL Server... shouldn't you be using the mysql library
[17:02] <robertparkerx> There are many databases this site connects to and with
[17:02] <robertparkerx> MySQL, Mongo and MSSQL
[17:03] <tomreyn> robertparkerx: what you posted as an error message is really source code. do you actually get to see this as an error message somewhere?
[17:03] <robertparkerx> tomreyn, yes it does output
[17:05] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: You won't see anything logged about the connection failure if you're catching the exception like that. The catch intercepts the exception and prevents it from bubbling back up to the php process.
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> robertparkerx: It is my belief that you're Ubuntu system is working fine. You have a programming/developement error in your code, which isn't supported here. You should try seeking help in a PHP specific channel.
[17:06] <tomreyn> https://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdo-dblib.php is apparently what you're using there. ask in #php if you need help with php itself.
[17:11] <tfgbd_> This should run Ubuntu, right?
[17:11] <tfgbd_> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nextbook-Ares-11-6-2-in-1-Tablet-64GB-Intel-Atom-Z3735F-Quad-Core-Processor-Android-5-0/43266547
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !crosspost | tfgbd_
[17:14] <tfgbd_> I didn't ask anywhere else
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> tfgbd_: ubuntu can run on tablets where windows can run on
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> tfgbd_: android tablets not
[17:15] <tfgbd_> But does connected standby work?
[17:16] <tfgbd_> That android tablet has a 64bit efi
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: Again, I already told you that feature is not available in Ubuntu Desktop or Server
[17:16] <tfgbd_> What edition is it available on?
[17:16] <tfgbd_> What about Ubuntu+1?
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: None of them
[17:16] <tfgbd_> Why not
[17:17] <tfgbd_> Does suspend work at all?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> tfgbd_: this channel is not for polls
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: Suspend to RAM and Suspend to Disk is supported, however some laptop manufactures use customized protocols that do not always work with the implementation that the Linux kernel provides
[17:18] <tfgbd_> But if there is an android linux kernel already, why wouldn't Ubuntu work?
[17:19] <tfgbd_> Is this some kind of politics?
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> tfgbd_: you can stop trolling now
[17:20] <tfgbd_> I'm not
[17:21] <tfgbd_> I'm literally ready to flash ubuntu to a USB drive and see what it does.
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: This channel is for the support of Ubuntu Desktop where you have Ubuntu already installed or are in the process of installing to a laptop or desktop computer. Ubuntu does not provide installation images for devices such as tablets or phones, and those platforms are not supported here.
[17:22] <leni1[m]> Hi. I am using Ubuntu Server 18.04. I am having problems creating symbolic links to a file in /etc/nginx/sites-available within the /etc/nginx/sites-enabled folder.
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> come join to #ubuntu-server please leni1[m]
[17:22] <tfgbd_> Windows tablets are just more laptops.
[17:24] <tfgbd_> How big is s390x Ubuntu
[17:24] <leni1[m]> lotuspsychje: cool. Thank you :)
[17:25] <tfgbd_> I'm using Rufus on ARM laptops to write Ubuntu.
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: You were already asked to stop trolling, you can leave now
[17:25] <tfgbd_> i'm asking questions
[17:27] <tfgbd_> Do you even know what a troll is?
[17:27] <pragmaticenigma> !ops | tfgbd_
[17:30] <tfgbd_> Did you know Rufus runs on Windows RT now?
[17:30] <tfgbd_> We're catchin' up on ARM.
[17:31] <tfgbd_> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#3
[17:32] <becool> how do i rollback an ubuntu update?
[17:33] <becool> like a security update
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: First this is an Ubuntu Desktop support channel, not Windows. Second, Rufus is explicitly marked as not recommended as a boot media maker for Ubuntu in the Ubuntu documentation. Lastely... all of your questions could easily be answered if you would read the documentation that many hardworking developers have put together to help you in getting Ubuntu installed on a supported platform.
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> becool: you would have to restore a system image from before the update was applied.
[17:34] <tfgbd_> https://rufus.ie/
[17:35] <pragmaticenigma> pardon, it is a different debian based OS that rufus is not recommended for
[17:36] <genii> tfgbd_: If you have questions about running *buntu on ARM, #ubuntu-arm is probably the more appropriate channel for those
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: For tested and compatible hardware see the listing here: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/
[17:39] <becool> pragmaticenigma: thanks for the info. on a side note, i'm surprised ubuntu doesn't have a mechanism for update rollback like windows does
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> !backup | becool
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> becool: backing up and rolling back updates are 2 different things
[17:40] <becool> i want to rollback updates, not backup my system
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> becool: that's because the updates provided do not add/remove features, they are typically security related updates. Also, windows uses back up images to rollback updates. Ubuntu requires you to do it manually.
[17:41] <Sven_vB> sda4 is already mounted rw, but I'd like to temporarily mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/foo -o ro,nodev,noexec,umask=0002 so my script can read independent of the other mountpoint's mount options. is there a way to ignore "mount: /dev/sda4 already mounted […]"?
[17:41] <tfgbd_> I think you're reading old documentation from 10 years ago on Wikis.
[17:41] <tfgbd_> The new documentation promotes it and it gets updates.
[17:41] <tfgbd_> It didn't support my ARM laptops last year.
[17:42] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB: No, you cannot double mount a device
[17:42] <becool> i use ubuntu on aws instances, so basically i should snapshot systems beforehand
[17:42] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, you can't mount twice, but there is bind mounting. I don't think you can change any mount options, though.
[17:43] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, if you want to sandbox your script, you could look into AppArmor or firejail as well?
[17:44] <Sven_vB> some time ago when I had some docker running and used gparted, some devices showed multiple (comma separated) entries in the mounted at column, so does docker have special magic then?
[17:44] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, that's probably bind mounting?
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> sounds excatly like bind mounting
[17:44] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, my problem is more about not interrupting an interactive user who might or might not have mounted the device.
[17:45] <tfgbd_> http://i.imgur.com/HNZ9lJW.png
[17:45] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, "interrupting" in what sense?
[17:46] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, prevent them from mounting (because my script was first) or from umounting (because they were first) or have my script be disrupted because the interactive user umounted the drive.
[17:46] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, any program that is cd'd to the mount, or has a file handle in it, will prevent unmounting without --force
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> tfgbd_: Again, that won't work. You are imaging the AMD64 bit image, it won't run on an ARM CPU
[17:47] <lordcirth> So you can lock it open that way
[17:47] <tfgbd_> Docker is just VirtualBox isn't it?
[17:47] <lordcirth> tfgbd_, no, completely different.
[17:47] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, Which could also double as preventing your script from running concurrent with itself.
[17:47] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, I had hoped that using a different mount point for my ro mount could allow the user to umount their mountpoint while my script still has its.
[17:48] <tfgbd_> lotuspsychje, what do you mean by "MANUAL backup"
[17:48] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, What is the purpose of the script?
[17:49] <tfgbd_> I imaged with one computer to boot on another with Intel64
[17:49] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, it shall read a secret file, to use a thumb drive as authorization token.
[17:49] <Sven_vB> I could probably make several partitions each with a copy of the file though.
[17:50] <Sven_vB> would be just easier to use one
[17:50] <Sven_vB> well, in theory that is.
[17:52] <Sven_vB> or I'll just run the script as root then it will probably always have permission to read the file no matter which user has mounted it. I had hoped to use a low-priv user for my script and grant it mount permission via fstab.
[17:52] <tomreyn> becool: snapshotting can be a good strategy, edpecially when snapshotting while the system is off. you may have other options for rolling back the update which was installed. see /var/log/apt/*.log for the latest updates which were installed (and for which packages were updated from which to which version). you can install a given package version using     sudo apt install package=version    , so for example    sudo apt install
[17:52] <tomreyn> bash=4.4.18-2ubuntu1.1    , but this can only work if the desired version is still available on the ubuntu archives (i.e. on your systems' configured apt sources or local apt cache).
[17:53] <tomreyn> this said, package downgrades are not supported.
[18:00] <becool> tomreyn: thanks
[18:07] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, if the script automatically reads the keyfile, why does the user need to manually mount and unmount a partition containing only the keyfile?
[18:08] <kekchup> my sound is very trebly
[18:08] <kekchup> how to fix
[18:09] <kekchup> on youtube
[18:14] <lordcirth> kekchup, as in, treble is too loud?
[18:14] <kekchup> no theres no very little bass
[18:16] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, the user shall not need to mount, but be able to, because one of their interactive applications sometimes wants to read the same token file.
[18:16] <lordcirth> kekchup, try pulseaudio-equalizer
[18:17] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, ok. What if you put it in fstab as an automount, that will fail quickly if the device isn't plugged in?
[18:19] <coz_> kekchup, did you look in alsamixer?
[18:19] <coz_> via terminal
[18:20] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, what would be the benefit? my script can already see in /dev/disk/by-id whether it's plugged in, and the user knows.
[18:20] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, with automount, your script will trigger mounting when it tries to read, and so will their app, and neither will need to handle mounting / unmounting
[18:21] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, oh, you mean to just make a quick copy as to hope the user action and script action won't overlap?
[18:21] <lordcirth> The fast fail is just a good idea when automounting USBs in general
[18:21] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, no, I thought both only needed to read the secret, not write?
[18:21] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, yeah indeed, but it's stored between other files that a user will want to write.
[18:22] <Sven_vB> maybe I could change that.
[18:22] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, that's ok. Automount with a timeout means that there will be no conflicting mount/unmount commands, and if both are only reading, then there's no problem accessing the same file.
[18:23] <lordcirth> If it's an ext4 or other full-featured filesystem, you might consider chattr +i just to be safe.
[18:23] <Sven_vB> maybe I don't even need a proper file system mount. can I make ext3 or ext4 ensure a certain file (< 2 MB) is stored continuously within the first 8 or so MB of the partition?
[18:23] <Sven_vB> then I could grep for the header
[18:24] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, I would not do that.
[18:24] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, can a user still request near-instand umount when they want to withdraw the thumb drive?
[18:24] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, yes, umount / eject should still work with automounting
[18:24] <kekchup> coz_ ill check that
[18:24] <kekchup> what do I type lol
[18:24] <kekchup> sudo apt get alsamixer
[18:24] <kekchup> ?
[18:25] <Sven_vB> nice. I'll try to read about it. probably boils down to the same udev rules thing from last week
[18:26] <kekchup> oh wait I got it
[18:27] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, is your idea of auto-mounting sth. like this? https://www.axllent.org/docs/view/auto-mounting-usb-storage/
[18:27] <kekchup> ffs I screenshotted it now dolphin cant find the file
[18:28] <lordcirth> kekchup, alsamixer is already installed.  pulseaudio-equalizer is a GUI and is an extra package.
[18:28] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, that's a hacky thing from 2013. All you need to do now is add "x-systemd.automount
[18:28] <tfgbd_> mounting is easier in Win32 applications.
[18:28] <lordcirth> *" to your mount options
[18:29] <lordcirth> (and then reboot or run a couple of commands to get systemd to read fstab again)
[18:29] <Sven_vB> lordcirth, thanks, I'll read about that!
[18:31] <Sven_vB> I could probably put a systemd unit instead
[18:31] <lordcirth> Sven_vB, np. It's also great for network filesystems, so it's always there when you want it but doesn't hang boot
[18:31] <coz_> kekchup,  sorry  in terminal type   alsamixer
[18:32] <coz_> kekchup, at top right of window it has keys to show audio card, choose yours then chack all of the sliders usinf the arrow keys
[18:33] <luna_> Now its compiling Firefox 68 and Firefox 18 (iOS) gonna be released tommorow 18:00 Swedish time
[18:33] <kekchup> ok intel PCH
[18:34] <kekchup> well its up 100% already
[18:34] <coz_> kekchup, left right arrows scroll through the sliders, up down arrows increase/decrease volumes
[18:35] <kekchup> as is speaker volume
[18:35] <coz_> kekchup, then you may be stcuk with the sound...?
[18:35] <kekchup> I thought thered be some app to make it less trebly
[18:35] <lordcirth> kekchup, you may find pulseaudio-equalizer easier.
[18:35] <kekchup> ok
[18:36] <coz_> yes as lordcirth  mentioned
[18:36] <kekchup> how to install that
[18:36] <lordcirth> kekchup, sudo apt install pulseaudio-equalizer
[18:36] <kekchup> oh I did apt get
[18:36] <lordcirth> Same result
[18:37] <lordcirth> apt just has colors and a progress bar
[18:38] <kekchup> ok installing
[18:40] <max12345> I'm trying to create a boot stick with dcfldd, it said it's finished but it doesn't return. What
[18:40] <max12345> is wrong?
[18:41] <kekchup> its installed, how do to open it
[18:42] <lordcirth> max12345, run 'sync' in another terminal, does it also not return? Many copy operations in Linux will say they are done when they finish reading from the source, rather than when they finish writing to the destination.
[18:43] <lordcirth> kekchup, it should show up in your menu, or you can probably run "pulseaudio-equalizer"
[18:43] <max12345> lordcirth: no that returns instantly.
[18:43] <max12345> ah the other one is finished as well.
[18:43] <lordcirth> so yeah, just finishing sync
[18:44] <max12345> I'm having these issues every damn time though. It's never easy :(
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> language max12345
[18:45] <max12345> sorry.
[18:45] <lordcirth> max12345, is it really an 'issue'? You just wait a bit.
[18:45] <max12345> no it's my third try creating the stick and booting again.
[18:46] <lordcirth> Oh I see. Well what went wrong before?
[18:46] <max12345> First time I think I didn't unmount the stick
[18:46] <max12345> second time I didn't format before because I didn't think I had to
[18:46] <lordcirth> If you are just dd'ing an ISO, you shouldn't need to format.
[18:47] <max12345> this time it worked, so I don't really care.
[18:47] <max12345> but it's probably good to keep in mind for the future.
[18:47] <max12345> so thanks!
[18:48] <lordcirth> Also, these days you can use 'cp' to write it as well. So you can just 'sudo cp file.iso /dev/sdb'
[18:48] <lordcirth> cp is now smart enough to know what you mean.
[18:48] <max12345> cool. I don't mind the added complexity if it prevents me from flattening the wrong drive though :)
[18:50] <fred1807> in there a web interface for networkmanager?  Like nmtui  but for browsers
[18:51] <lordcirth> fred1807, I'm not aware of one. Why do you want that?
[18:51] <kekchup> I dont see any EQ options
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> fred1807: maybe if you explain what you are trying to catch exactly?
[18:52] <kekchup> lordcirth whre's the EQ options
[18:53] <fred1807> you know the scenario, headless box, you want to manage network settings, instead of ssh >> nmtui, you could just access a web interface...
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> !info cockpit | fred1807
[18:54] <lordcirth> It seems odd to me to make a network manager frontend that only works if you've already set up your networking
[18:56] <lordcirth> kekchup, The article I found says you need to enable it, but it seems old, and I'm on Xubuntu here. There's also this: https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/05/pulseeffects-nice-system-wide.html
[19:01] <fred1807> ubottu: nice, will try
[19:03] <kekchup> lordcirth https://pastebin.com/S6Zj9qJv
[19:03] <kekchup> still cant find the EQ
[19:03] <kekchup> what a fath on
[19:04] <lordcirth> kekchup, um, did you paste the whole article into your terminal?
[19:04] <kekchup> well just the commands
[19:04] <lordcirth> That paste shows several paragraphs of English text and the errors from them
[19:04] <kekchup> thats my console output
[19:05] <lordcirth> Also, you somehow managed to get your password in that output.
[19:05] <kekchup> heh
[19:05] <kekchup> I got no data on here really
[19:05] <kekchup> its a new installation
[19:06] <tomreyn> you should still replace it, especially if this was the full password, since that's be a very bad one.
[19:07] <tomreyn> !ppa
[19:08] <tomreyn> the warning at the end of your output is about the winehq PPA, which you configured only partially.
[19:08] <kekchup> k
[19:10] <kekchup> the pastebin said if I sign in I can delete it
[19:10] <kekchup> thats bollocks cause I cant
[19:10] <kekchup> I guess im just gonna have trebly audio for now
[19:11] <max12345> I'll have you know I managed to install a graphics driver :P
[19:11] <max12345> feeling pretty good about myself right now.
[19:11] <max12345> thanks for the help, I think this is as far as I will push my luck today.
[19:53] <amazoniantoad> I keep trying to run pip but I get an error, "File "setup.py" not found. Directory cannot be installed in editable mode:"
[19:53] <amazoniantoad> Does anyone know what this means?
[20:20] <deltab> amazoniantoad: how are you running pip? with -e?
[20:23] <Sysifoss> Is there a way to preserve an image of my system with a .iso file that I could install on another computer later on if necessary?
[20:23] <Sysifoss> That would also be compatible with UEFI boot?
[20:24] <OerHeks> Sysifoss, no, not natively, but you can make your own iso with programms you want installed standard
[20:24] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[20:24] <OerHeks> it should support UEFI
[20:31] <EriC^> Sysifoss: you could dd the whole hdd to a a file and later dd it back i guess, for it to support any uefi system on the go then you'd have to install grub using the flags for removable media
[20:40] <pcost8300> Hello everyone, good afternoon. Could you help guiding me to install php7.2-pgsql extension in a ubuntu server 14.04. I'm trying to install it via apt, all it says it is in the current version "5.2" which is no longer the main php version used.
[20:40] <OerHeks> pcost8300, no, 14.04 is EOL, dead
[20:41] <OerHeks> upgrade to a supported version, 16.04 or 18.04
[20:41] <pcost8300> OerHeks: ok
[20:42] <OerHeks> php7.2-pgsql  is in 18.04 bionic and up only  https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php7.2-pgsql
[20:43] <pcost8300> OerHeks: thank you for the information, this is bad... i'm afraid of upgrading that server..
[20:43] <OerHeks> you might want to check out the releasenotes, lots have changed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Server
[20:43] <pcost8300> Thank you OerHeks, i'll give it a look.
[20:43] <OerHeks> considering that, backup data and fresh install would be my best advise
[20:46] <pcost8300> it is the best option but physical server isn't in my country. I'll try to change the code instead and for the moment.
[20:57] <tfgbd_> What Ubuntu do ineed for my jornada 720
[21:02] <OerHeks> tfgbd_, fantasy linux, no ubuntu will run on that troll
[21:03] <tfgbd_> what is a troll to you?
[21:03] <tfgbd_> Why are you calling devices trolls?
[21:13] <renn0xtk9> When I open a shell it opens first /etc/profile then ~/.profile then ~/.bashrc   am I right?
[21:19] <tomreyn> renn0xtk9: 'opens' is a bit misleading. some files are read and interpreted as configurations, others are interpreted as scripts and executed. in this sense, your list missed /etc/environment . which files are interpreted how also depends on the shell in use. read the comments on top of these files as well as the respective man ages for details.
[21:19] <tomreyn> if you don't have the standard files in place look in /etc/skel which is the source of per user configurations files which are put in place when new users are created
[21:21] <tarzeau> tomreyn: only from there, afaik
[21:21] <wagle> hi -- hoe do i get apt-get dist-upgrade to update my motd again..  stopped working a few months ago
[21:22] <wagle> how
[21:22] <renn0xtk9> tomreyn: yes open was not the correct words i rather meant executed. I placed an ehco in all 4 it seems /etc/profile and $HOME/.profile don't get executred
[21:23] <tomreyn> tarzeau: i don't understand, could you rephrase?
[21:24] <tomreyn> renn0xtk9: which shell are you using on which ubuntu release?
[21:28] <wagle> TFW you accidentally reboot your irc bouncer while waiting for annn answer
[21:33] <tarzeau> tomreyn: about /etc/skel but i got now it was trying to help someone else
[21:36] <tomreyn> tarzeau: sorry, i still don't get it, but i think you're saying it's no longer relevant. if isaid anything incorrect, please do state so,though (i do make a lot of mistakes).
[21:36] <wagle> .. and the answer is:  /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available --force
[21:36] <tarzeau> no, yes you're right :)
[21:40] <tomreyn> ok :)
[21:47] <renn0xtk9> tomreyn: it is the standard bash shell on a 18.04
[21:52] <tomreyn> renn0xtk9: so /etc/environment, /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/, ~/.profile (if neither ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exist), ~/.bashrc and probably some others would be relevant.
[21:55] <renn0xtk9> tomreyn: yes but like /etc/profile don't get called if I open a new terminal in my understanding right?   i mean i try to ehco something int there and export some environement variable but did not work. So I assumed it is not called
[21:59] <tomreyn> renn0xtk9: openening a terminal window does not trigger a login, so i don't think /etc/profile is involved there.
[22:02] <renn0xtk9> tomreyn: ah it means it is only called at sessoin login?
[22:03] <tynx> Hi, is there any way to disable a laptop's internal keyboard in Ubnuntu? Half of the keys don't work anymore for some reason, and I'd like to be able to place an external keyboard on my laptop without accidentally pre4ssing buttons on the almost unusable internal keyboard.
[22:04] <tarzeau> tynx: there's a command for the keyboard controller to disable it. and i think it doesn't affect usb keyboards
[22:05] <tarzeau> tynx: https://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/kbd/scancodes-11.html
[22:05] <renn0xtk9> exit
[22:06] <tarzeau> you'll need to be root to use "man outpb"
[22:07] <tarzeau> i wrote something called "uberkey" no idea if you can find it online anywhere but that could get you started
[22:49] <tfgbd_> https://i.imgur.com/T2NMGgW.jpg
[22:50] <tfgbd_> See, I bought Ubuntu.
[22:54] <tomreyn> tfgbd_: support Q&A only here, please.