[00:00] Gallomimia Thanks [00:01] Gallomimia still here! all of sudden I was able to see it, but I'm unable to mount it because of "unknown file system 'exfat'" [00:01] but the box of the reader says ok for Mac OS [00:01] both ubuntu and mac os are linux right? [00:01] no [00:02] mac osx is based on a unix kernel... from some flavor of bsd i believe [00:02] it's a USB device right? type lsusb into terminal [00:02] what is on this card you're reading? [00:03] ahh ok. I just looked at the setup guide and it says good for linux kernal 2.4.1 and above [00:03] yes it is a USB [00:03] photos [00:03] oh dear. it sounds like it's formatted for windows and... i thought exfat was readable on linux and ubuntu [00:04] robertparkerx, I suppose it's possible the interface was a simulated type that no longer has drivers in the kernel, but I don't know enough about that to recommend a fix. You really need to find whoever set up this machine in this odd way.. [00:04] filifunky, seems you need some added software to get it to work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1057423/ubuntu-18-04-does-not-mount-2tb-exfat-drive-even-after-installing-exfat-fuse-exf [00:05] robertparkerx, what you could do which is at least reasonably safe would be just to comment out the "auto eth1" line in /etc/network/interfaces [00:05] oh! ok I'll check that out Gallomimia...is there anything from this lsusb command that should be interesting? [00:05] you should see the device you plugged in, a description of it, brand name, so forth [00:05] filifunky: 'exfat: install -> ' sudo apt install exfat-utils exfat-fuse ' . then try again to read the device. [00:06] robertparkerx, then it should get further in the boot, although the net 10 interface won't be configured and presumably it was there for a reason [00:06] is exfat now in the standard repos? my quick google search showed people needing a PPA or a separate download [00:06] i love you guys [00:06] i see my photos [00:06] .... wow that was fast [00:07] no errors now but it still boots into emergency mode [00:07] i'm creating a new LV for my root fs. a ubuntu 19.04 install is going in there. in the past i used 16gig slices. how big is recommended these days (/home is separate) [00:11] robertparkerx, there must be some error somewhere. Try "systemctl list-units --failed" to see if there are other failed units, then systemctl status to see its messages [00:13] i have a bootable install on a partition of a disk drive. it's something like 220gigs. used about 12 gigs. i want to copy that partition onto an LV of size... oh, 24 gigs, let's say. what's the best way to do that? dd and cat source > dest are going to have too much data to copy, right? [00:13] rfm, https://d.pr/i/AXzR2z [00:14] "failed to run 'mount' task: Too many levels of symbolic links [00:17] 19 > 18.10 ? [00:17] the version numbers you're looking at are dates of release [00:18] robertparkerx, well, at least whoever did this screwed everything up in the same way. Looks like /usr/local/www was set up badly just like /var/log was. [00:18] !yy.mm | biessie [00:18] biessie: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [00:18] ... where's the bot? [00:18] phew. thought it was dead! [00:18] Gallomimia :) [00:18] screw it up updateing from 18.10 to current [00:18] i was on 16.04 LTS [00:18] so yes, 19.04 comes after 18.10 [00:19] neither of which are LTS, that's 18.04 [00:19] robertparkerx, I guess we should check that the /usr/local/www symlink points to /mnt/sdb1/www and if it does, remove the /usr/local/www line from /etc/fstab just like we did with /var/log [00:19] !LTS | biessie [00:19] biessie: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [00:19] Okay [00:20] oops - yea thats what i was on 18.04** idk why i said 16.04 [00:20] rfm, it does linkk there [00:20] i personally recommend not updating. a clean install is better. at least in my experience [00:22] This is just a play server. i learn on it and fool around and host my ZNC on it lol. [00:22] just dabbing around [00:22] upgrade from lts to lts is okay [00:23] what would cause issues upgrading? what are the common errors? [00:23] YOU ALL ARE THE BEST! I AM BACK IN [00:24] Yay. [00:25] biessie if we knew the answers to that question, it wouldn't be such an issue. it's my personal opinion that having a system to test upgrades on is very difficult, because the part of the equation missing from such a test-case is where you use that system for 6 months to 2 years, apply updates, and change configurations. [00:25] Biessie: 3rd party software - proprietary drivers. [00:25] all of the changes you apply to a system by using it every day for however long. how should a tester repeat this 20 times, for every different user? [00:28] hi [00:28] I am in trouble with a process that I can not kill [00:28] the process changes its PID constantly VERY quickly [00:29] processes don't change pid's [00:29] to I never know that process to send the kill signal to [00:29] Gallomimia, the PID changes. Really [00:29] if its changing pid, that means its a new spawn of the same process. [00:29] https://filebin.net/8pdcj1xdogh6i5wc/countly.png?t=pcy8813r [00:29] what is this "countly" ? [00:29] the old one quit and a new one spawned. you'll have to cut it off at the source [00:29] killall -9 countly does not work [00:29] ok but where is the origin of this process? [00:30] I'm back in but I tried to `apt -f install` to get mysql-server installed and back working. I got this error https://d.pr/i/ON6QS8 [00:30] its probably started by a system script somewhere [00:30] Bashing-om : Makes sense [00:31] Gallomimia, so I can not find out the source? [00:31] https://resources.count.ly/ [00:32] i recommend a healthy dose of RTFM and looking for how to stop it or remove it [00:32] This is what systemctl status mysql.server output -- https://d.pr/i/CocDQo [00:32] Gallomimia, I did not realize there is something outside linux causing this [00:32] i also recommend you figure out where this program came from. what is it doing on your system? [00:33] I think this is related to /var/log/ [00:33] robertparkerx, if the system now has networking going, can you "sudo llshw -class network ! nc termbin.com 9999" and post the link, so I can try to see why eth1 disappeared? [00:33] Biessie: Mind you - reverting to as close to default as possible - I have never ever had an issue release upgrading. As a test I have even gone from 12.04 all the way to 18.10 ! [00:33] Gallomimia, I definitely did not install it willingly / knowingly [00:34] well then. you might have much more serious problems than having a runaway process you cannot kill [00:34] but yes. any time you kill a process and it reappears with a new pid [00:34] rfm, llshw command not found [00:34] Bashing-om : That makes me feel a little better. I dont really modify anything outside of setting up HTTPD and modifying my sshd ports etc [00:34] that means you have some system script keeping it running. it's part of the service manager [00:34] also installing other servers things like that. [00:35] so perhaps sysctl stop countly will do the trick. who knows [00:35] Gallomimia, I renamed /usr/bin/countly to /usr/bin/TESTING [00:35] Gallomimia, it still runs [00:36] you're running ubuntu 18.04 or perhaps newer? [00:36] robertparkerx, sorry I typoed, just one l : "sudo lshw -class network | nc termbin.com 9999" [00:36] Rojola, what kind of computer is this? is it at home? is it hosted by some provider? [00:36] Gallomimia, bionic [00:37] Gallomimia, home / laptop [00:37] I managed to stop it [00:37] thank you! [00:37] however, uninstalling seems to be harder [00:37] I don't know what package is resides in [00:38] but it must go - it drains so many resources [00:38] rfm, it's listing options but not posting anything [00:38] uh. there's a command to ask the package manager who put it there. does anyone know that? [00:39] did you install some web hosting packages? [00:39] it's a website analytics engine [00:39] I ran a "locate" command [00:39] it seems to be a node module [00:39] nodejs? sounds about right [00:40] I'm googling how to uninstall a nodejs package [00:40] robertparkerx, strange, maybe it doesn't like the class name. how about "sudo lshw | nc termbin.com 9999" it will be (much) longer but should have the info I want [00:40] brb [00:40] countly analitics [00:40] npm unintall countly [00:40] that works!! [00:41] thank you very much Gallomimia for your help! [00:41] cool [00:41] i learned a lot [00:41] me too [00:41] thank you! [00:41] npm node package manager? [00:41] yes [00:41] I believe so [00:42] afk for a moment [00:45] rfm, I cannot find | key on swedish keyboard. This server has a strange keyboard layout. [00:47] no pipe key, no forward slash? [00:47] robertparkerx, i was looking at your previous post of "could not open /var/log/mysql/error.log" [00:47] it seems really obvious to make sure that file is both existing and writable [00:47] robertparkerx, well, I have to bail anyway. good luck [00:48] Gallomimia, it exist [00:48] writable by the mysql user [00:48] chown mysql:adm /var/log/mysql/error.log [00:48] disk not full? [00:48] on 19.04 live iso, what is the best way to mount the sdb so i can make files on it without sudo all the time [00:49] No [00:49] cyberpolice, if you mount it with a graphical utility, like Disks, it should mount under /media/yourusername/diskname and be owned by you [00:50] Gallomimia: well i tried with udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb but it was still owner of root? isnt it suppose to mount it for me as my user [00:50] Gallomimia, I am getting permission denied for it [00:50] I see that in systemctl status mysql.server [00:52] Gallomimia: i just tried that too, it also makes it owner of root [00:52] i don't think you want a mount -b [00:52] Gallomimia: in fact, /media/ubuntu is owned by root as well [00:52] and so is /media [00:52] that's normal [00:52] did i mess it up somehow [00:53] just the command that looks strange to me [00:53] mount /dev/sdb1 /media/ubuntu/afoldername [00:54] you need to make that folder first [00:54] and you can't mount a disk. you need to mount a partition on that disk [00:54] oh i typod it, i had tried udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1 [00:55] I have tried to chown mysql:mysql /var/log/mysql and mysql:adm I still get permission denied [00:55] forgive my ignorance, but what is udisksctl ?? [00:56] not sure but someone here told me to use it [00:57] maybe it makes that folder for you.... let's read the man page shall we? [00:57] ¥£€€¢£¥€€£€£¥¢€¢¥£€¢¥£€¢ [00:57] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----+-- [00:58] Gallomimia: yeah it does make the folder, but it was owned by root :/ [00:58] Gallomimia: cyberpolice : udisksctl -> the file browser calls the udisks daemon via the udisks library [00:58] the what? [00:59] sounds to me like systemd is looking to depart from gnu [00:59] * MRD365 [00:59] kick that guy please [00:59] MRD365: yes, nice, we see you. Now please keep on topic [00:59] ok [01:00] i just tried to mkdir /media/ubuntu/mydir; chown -r ubuntu:ubuntu /media/ubuntu/mydir; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/ubuntu/mydir; touch /media/ubuntu/mydir/file and i have no permission [01:01] who owns ubuntu/mydir now? [01:01] second question. what FS is on this device? is it possible the permissions are all set to root before you began? [01:02] or maybe it's a permissionless FS [01:03] its ext4, i dunno but now i just chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /media, and now i can do it [01:03] i guess its solved [01:04] I get `cannot open file '/var/log/mysql/error.log' for error logging: Permission denied` error in systemctl status mysql.server. I have checked the permissions and they seem okay. I have changed it to chown mysql:mysql [01:04] shouldn't have to do that. also, i checked on my own /media/ubuntu currently booted from a LiveUSB and it's both owned by root [01:04] I have ls -la //var/log/mysql [01:05] might want to be sure of who the username is for mysqld process [01:09] Gallomimia, I try to change it to mysql:mysql but when I apt -f install it changed it to mysql:adm [01:17] Eickmeyer: I saw Ubuntu Studio mentioned on the announcement reversing the 32-bit decision. Thank you for helping to get that resolved. === cyp3d_ is now known as cyp3d [01:32] i want to move files from samba share (windows) to an external hard drive i have. will it make a difference to use rsync? or shall i use mv === zbenjamin is now known as Guest3015 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:34] Is it true that installing 19.04 chromium-browser via apt actually installs the snap version? [01:37] phantom_data34: it shouldn't be. apt isn't for snap stuff. [01:38] though apt can install the snap software. [01:39] Trying to decide if im going to use ubuntu or debian. I haven't used ubuntu in a while but I just saw a yt video where the guy pretty much made it seem like they are trying to sneak snaps onto people's systems. [01:39] would rather use ubuntu but obv cant have that. [01:41] phantom_data34: sneak? i guess they mean snap software comes preinstalled though no snaps do that i can tell. [01:42] phantom_data34: link? also, should probably take this to #ubuntu-offtopic [01:43] Like I like snaps for the server. On my desktop id rather use traditional packages. Made it seem like even if I was going out of my way to use apt, I would have to really be paying attention or snaps would end up on my system. [01:43] phantom_data34: eh, i can't really say what they meant without seeing it. [01:44] phantom_data34: all i can say is i've seen them make snapd a "recommended" package for official flavors. but that doesn't come with any snaps installed afaik. [01:45] meaning it's optional but gets pulled in if apt is configured to install recommendations automatically. [01:47] iirc, i found i could blacklist snaps from my custom installs of ubuntu. [01:50] thanks. I'm prob gonna use the minimal install and do as much as possible manually. I like Ubuntu so i'll prob just setup a machine and give the benefit of the doubt. From what u said looks like its fine atm. [01:51] phantom_data34: you familiar with debootstrap? [01:51] i've used it many times to install stuff, but it requires some experience to configure it. [01:52] it install ubuntu-minimal by default. [01:52] you can blacklist packages by configuring apt to "pin" them to -1 or so. they'll never get chosen then. [01:52] though if it's a critical package it might make some things impossible. [01:53] phantom_data34: One can also purge snap from the system :) [01:54] naah I normally use bsd on my desktop. I only use linux on the server and just use aws' ubuntu or whatever. In a situation where it would be way more convenient to use linux for a while tho. I'm looking at debootstrap tho and it looks interesting. [01:54] phantom_data34: it's also possible to blacklist the telemetry packages they added in 18.04+. [01:54] Bashing-om: yeah idk if im gonna remove it tho and then apt install -y chromium, and it goes and auto installs a bunch of snaps on my machine [01:55] phantom_data34: if you want me to grab my notes on this method, i can send it to you in PM or so. [01:55] ryuo: yeah im too much of an ubuntu noob i think. I'm prob going to end up with stuff running on my machine that I would want to turn off but im unaware of [01:55] yeah im already throwing down everything you said in a text file. If you just want to pm me links or whatever [01:56] well, it's mostly stuff i keep offline. i don't keep online copies of it. [01:56] and it always needs adjusting for the specific system it's for though some of it stays the same. [01:57] ok, found it. sec. [01:57] the one i used for a desktop (laptop) install [01:58] Can anyone help? I'm upgrading 14.04 to 16.04 and I got everything working. I'm back into default console. The only problem is when installing mysql-server-5.7 I get a permission denied error and it won't complete the installation. [01:58] sweet I'm going to be installing on a laptop [01:58] I checked with ls -la and it appears its chown mysql:adm [02:00] Worked no issues [02:00] 18.04 -> 18.10 -> 19.04 [02:01] !yay | Biessie [02:01] Biessie: Glad you made it! :-) [02:02] Excited [02:04] robertparkerx, you're running the install as root, right? so it [02:04] robertparkerx, so it should be hard to get a permission error. Have you determined what file is giving the error? [02:05] rfm, /var/log/mysql/error.log [02:09] robertparkerx, that same /var/log they've moved to /mnt/sdb1. I wonder if they mounted it with some funky options. What does "grep /mnt/sdb1 /proc/mounts" say? [02:11] rfm, https://d.pr/i/tvU0OO [02:11] robertparkerx, that looks ok [02:23] I'm lost on what to do. I've changed permissions. The installer seems to change them tto `mysql:adm` no matter what I change it to. [02:36] that's probably a good user and group. i think you should try to do something as that user, pretend you're trying to open the file and see what the issue really is [02:36] maybe use some file inspecting tools? like stat and some other things i don't know about [02:37] it sounds like the filesystem has an issue, or maybe there's a lack of permission in one of the nested dirs? [02:39] robertparkerx, sometimes the problem is with a enclosing directory. "ls -lad /var/log/ /var/log/mysql /var/log/error.log' please (the extra / on /var/log is so we get the permissons on the target dir, not the meaningless symlink permissions) [02:41] rfm, https://d.pr/i/sNV5w9 [02:42] say how do i install a snap that i already have on another drive? i can copy it into the directory but the command snap install vlc just downloads it [02:43] is it just me or is my internet going supremely slow? [02:44] that's the same question twice [02:47] robertparkerx, don't see anything wrong there [02:52] robertparkerx, I wonder if the mysql user needs to be in the adm group in order for the sticky group bit to work? (I wish I had a working mysql install to compare to, but I don't even have a 16.04 system anymore) [02:53] robertparkerx, what does "groups mysql" say? [02:53] https://d.pr/i/2zPehL [02:53] Is that the problem? [02:53] mysql:mysql === [b0b] is now known as b0b [02:55] robertparkerx, well I guess it's easy (and not risky) just to try adding mysql to the adm group: "adduser mysql adm", then try the install again [02:57] rfm, I still get permission denied. [03:01] robertparkerx, I'm out of ideas. [03:11] rfm, thanks for your help! [03:12] Honestly, thanks a lot! [03:47] what's the proper way to run something on startup? I tried adding a service to /etc/init and then it says not found when I run service ... start [03:48] blaster: these days? systemd service files. [03:48] blaster: or, you can use /etc/rc.local if it's a one time per boot command. [03:49] it's just to start a chrome remote debugging instance, one liner [03:49] I'll try rc.local. Thank you. [03:49] for functional OpenCL, would i have to switch to rocm ? [03:50] for amd apu/gpu that is [03:51] blaster, afaik per default rc.local is not enabled [03:54] Yeah I just found that out. [03:54] So you have to go to the trouble of creating a systemd service just to run a command on boot? [03:54] or enable the rc.local from the service file for it [03:56] i.e. /usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service [03:57] May the force be with you blaster [03:57] By the looks of it I'm gonna need it [03:57] as do I, as do I [03:58] ftlog.. [03:58] Jul 8 03:58:08 ci rc.local[1331]: [0708/035808.917355:ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(89)] Running as root without --no-sandbox is not supported. See https://crbug.com/638180. [03:59] Hmmm, user crontab ? [04:00] or run it with su - user -c command [04:00] my only user is root [04:01] oh [04:01] hack the source and rebuild ;) [04:01] lmfao [04:01] NO [04:02] keep it ubuntu support related please [04:02] blaster: wich ubuntu version are you on? [04:03] 19.04 [04:03] lotuspsychje, wb. Any suggestions on working OpenCL for amd apu/gpu, Would i need to switch to rocm or is there an easy way ? (19.04) [04:32] Anyone recall at what version ubuntu switched to systemd ? [04:33] Hi! I have a directory that's full of subdirectories and in those subdirectories there's only one .png file with the name preview.png. I want to move all the .png from all the subdirectories to a single directory. Is there a way I can move all files from all different folders and rename them at the same time? [04:34] Using catfish, I was able to get all files listed, but I'm unable to move them at the same time because they all have the same name. [04:36] Diebuntu, i take it all the files named preview.png does not have the same contents ? [04:37] That's right, they're all different images. [04:47] Could there be a command like ls -R mixed with mv? [04:52] my /var/log/syslog fills up / with audit: type=1400 audit(1562560390.012:723): apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/run/nslcd/socket" pid=2846 comm="cupsd" requested_mask="w" denied_mask="w" fsuid=0 ouid=0 [04:52] 6 GB/day [04:53] WoC: 15.04 (Vivid) was first systemd, confirmed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes [04:55] I found this command, could this work $ find . -iname "*dbg*" -exec rename _dbg.txt .txt '{}' \; [04:58] Never mind, it's not going to work, I'll just be renaming them, but they'll still have the same name. [05:00] rfm, I got the installer working by changing the error_log path to /var/lib/mysql [05:12] anyone know how to enhance the video playback quality in ubutu?” #the current video format is [05:12] 3gpp [05:13] mplsjoker: using which player? on what hardware? video driver? [05:13] Hi all! I'm on a ideapad Y510P running 18.04.2 -> very happy, except for my trackpad - it's just a pain. Selecting just a few words out of a paragraph is a hot mess, it's too 'twitchy' and selects lines above/below it and is just unworkable. Using the normal settings menu, I decreased the sensitivity - but that's not the issue, even at super slow acceleration it's just twitchy for fine control. Here's [05:13] xinput list-props of the device: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FtzpdPjWJH/ [05:14] mouses: did you make a bug yet? [05:15] lotuspsychje: No, as I don't think it's a 'bug' as much as it's just my settings/hardware/configuration [05:16] mouses: if something isnt working by default, i would consider that as a bug [05:19] lotuspsychje: it's not that it's 'not working' -> it's just a bit jumpy/twitchy for my taste, even at super low acceleration in the settings [05:22] mouses: maybe some tweaking in dconf-editor ? [05:22] lotuspsychje: maybe! poking about now. [05:26] mouses: trackpad should "just work" . What shows " dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-libinput " for a status ? [05:26] Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zpZdDgpRT/ [05:27] Bashing-om: it works, it just gets super jumpy and twitchy with one finger held down and the other dragging to select text [05:27] like picking 4 words out of the middle of a paragraph is a nightmare [05:29] mouses: Well ! the input controller is not installed ! - have a read ' apt show xserver-xorg-input-libinput ' . [05:30] Bashing-om: that's weird, this is a nearly totally stock install [05:30] like it's been running for 2 days [05:32] mouses: Well, all I can say is install the package and see the effects :) [05:32] let's find out! [05:32] oh no [05:33] Bashing-om: grrr I hate apt with a burning rage [05:33] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CPdQKkhYSK/ [05:33] ^^ [05:34] mouses: You do not even want to consider what life was like before a package manager :P [05:34] Bashing-om: Oh, I remember :) [05:34] I'm just bad with apt, totally my fault [05:34] how should I go about fixing that? [05:35] mouses: does not look real serious :P .. what shows ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' see what else we have to deal with. [05:36] 'full-upgrade' would take me to 19.0.x though, right? [05:36] or is that dist-upgrade [05:36] don't want to move to non LTS [05:37] Bashing-om: Regardless, nothing - update went fine, full-upgrade shows some leftover junk that can be autoremoved and 0 new, 0 upgraded, ran just fine [05:43] mouses: "full-upgrade" just deals with things that "upgrade" will not deal with for the current install only. Now as we look good in these respects . try ' sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core ' :P [05:52] mouses: You still keeping up ? [05:53] Bashing-om: yup! Sorry, had to feed a cat :) [05:54] Bashing-om: okay, that worked [05:54] mouses: :D Little ones. [05:54] can I talk in this channel [05:54] this is only the 4th damn channel ive tried already [05:54] mouses: Now xserver-xorg-input-libinput " [05:54] its either +R +B + fucking i or its idle [05:54] Bashing-om: just installed that as well [05:54] and im SICK OF IT [05:54] gigabyte: we hear you loud and clear, might want to avoid the language here [05:54] gigabyte: Looks readable here to me :P [05:55] kill me [05:55] Bashing-om: should I give it a reboot now? [05:55] well, I just got sick of win 10 so I wanna learn more bash [05:55] mouses: Reboot for good effect and let's see :D [05:56] ill be asking lots of questions so please wow me with "how good ba]sh is" [05:56] bash* [05:56] Bashing-om: let's find out [05:56] back in two short shakes of a short sheeps tail! [05:57] gigabyte: WQe do not do that - use it and you tell us :D [05:57] I neeed someone to teach me bash [05:57] :/ [05:57] gigabyte: ask mr. google? [05:57] so I thought going to a distro specific channel would be best [05:58] gigabyte: so you want us to re-type here, for you, multi-page tutorials with examples, thta you can readily find online? [05:58] and since this channel already taught me before [05:58] I'll do it. 200€/hr. === morphis6328 is now known as morphis [05:58] no man [05:58] gigabyte: See: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide . The better tutorial that I am aware of. [05:58] Bashing-om: Ok, boot is normal, all is well - no change to mouse behavior though [05:59] checking [05:59] Bashing-om: may just be me not being used to this touchpad [05:59] gigabyte: and dont' forget, there's #bash where you can ask experts about particular issues, just don't expect essays. [05:59] gigabyte: I'll teach for $25/hr USD but you might want to head to #bash or use the web [05:59] yep but its idle [06:00] type what you want to learn about into the googlebings [06:00] mouses: :( disappointing for sure . That was the only thought I had .. As I have no touchpad I can not look at what might be. [06:00] Bashing-om: hey, it's okay - we fixed that package error! [06:00] Bashing-om: It COULD just be me getting used to this new rig [06:01] it just makes me a insane that a laptop that is still worth a easy $1100 USD had a crap touchpad compared to my $150 USD chromebook [06:01] lol [06:01] is there a difference between pwd and ~ [06:01] pwd = present working directory [06:01] yes [06:01] ~ = whatever that user's home is set to [06:01] $HOME usually [06:01] ok I see [06:02] hence why if logged in as 'mouses' I can nano ~/Documents/note.txt vs nano /home/mouses/Documents/note.txt [06:35] so I updated my 18.10 to dingo and during the upgrade I got this https://ibb.co/4fhjYYR . After that it rebooted and I have dingo now, anything to worry about? Something I should fix? [06:47] za1b1tsu: run apt update and apt upgrade, and see if it complains about anything. [06:49] blackflow: No issues: All packages are up to date. [06:49] so I guess I can move on with my life [06:49] za1b1tsu: probably. just a question, did you have a PPA enabled when you upgraded? [06:49] blackflow, multiple [06:49] and now they're disabled? [06:50] because if you had software installed from PPAs, and now they're disabled, you have a bit of a problem there. It's possible there's package versioning or dependency collision that was expressed during upgrade, but not now, with PPAs disabled. [07:02] any suggestions on where i can change my clock settings so the hwclock is stored in localtime instead of utc ? [07:03] dual boot with Winblows [07:03] WoC: timedatectl [07:03] WoC: check the manpage and read about set-local-rtc option [07:05] oh ok, ty [07:11] thanks again blackflow [07:11] works [07:11] you're welcome. === rubdos_ is now known as rubdos [07:46] blackflow, how can I see if have disabled PPAs? [07:47] za1b1tsu: `apt policy` will show you enabled repos [07:47] or just look through /etc/apt/sources.list(.d) === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [07:50] blackflow, apt policy shows only ubuntu sources, but sources.list.d/ shows a lot of ppas [07:50] that means they are all disabled? [07:50] za1b1tsu: are they commented out with # in the sources.list ? [07:52] blackflow, they are not even present [07:52] za1b1tsu: I don't get it. you just said "but sources.list.d/ shows a lot of ppas" [07:52] are the lines commented out in those files? [07:54] sorry I thought you ment commented out in sources.list [07:54] this is an example: https://pastebin.com/iJEXcDw9 [07:55] in .distUpgrade and in .save are not commented out [07:55] but in .list it is [07:57] this means they are disabled? [07:59] za1b1tsu: I think so, yes, only .list files are sourced from there, so... [08:00] so I should uncomment what I want correct? [08:00] za1b1tsu: you'll have to update the sources, eg. from "cosmic" to "disco" or whatever the correct respo is for those specific PPAs for disco [08:00] then run apt update and see if there are upgrades (apt update will tell you) [08:01] za1b1tsu: be good to check that the PPAs are still supported in disco. === Sveta is now known as Guest49135 [08:07] za1b1tsu: For instance : http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/ - this one is supported in disco :) [08:07] yes, thak you [08:07] package managet in linux is interesting [08:07]