[00:21] returned. can u help me now? [00:21] how to Create text file with LF line feeds???????????????????????????????????? [00:21] please help [00:23] fredzz: vim, emacs, pico, nano, joe, jed, ed, gedit, whatever [00:23] fredzz: context please? [00:23] im stuck on installing ubports on N5 [00:24] fredzz: Most editors will already do this by default ( as opposed to DOS convention of Carriage Return - Linefeed ) [00:24] fredzz: If you need to convert back and forth use dos2unix and unix2dos [00:26] to continue I need... Create a new text file with LF line-feeds called "commandfile" with the following content: [00:26] format system [00:26] load_keyring image-master.tar.xz image-master.tar.xz.asc [00:26] load_keyring image-signing.tar.xz image-signing.tar.xz.asc [00:26] mount system [00:26] update ubports-420bfa80c833e7736e0197d969b5cd981f18eee1215ad3bfae6d82aab9105f03.tar.xz ubports-420bfa80c833e7736e0197d969b5cd981f18eee1215ad3bfae6d82aab9105f03.tar.xz.asc [00:27] sounds like you could probably just use any normal ubuntu text editor in default settings, then [00:27] the instructions make it sound more complicated than it is [00:28] in installing ubports and stuck here... [00:28] what do i have to do? please really easy. this new to me and trying not to brick [00:34] https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/hammerhead# is where I get this doubt. Im on manual instalation option ans stuck at " Create a new text file with LF line-feeds called "commandfile" with the following content:" [00:35] ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [00:35] mmm fredzz are you OK? is your keyboard working for you? the question marks make your question a tad harder to read [00:36] sorry for pushing but I need to solve this. can u help me? [00:38] not on this channel, which is just about ubuntu [00:38] !touch [00:38] Information about the mobile port of the Ubuntu platform (formely Ubuntu Touch) for Phone and Tablet is available here: https://ubports.com/. Support and discussion in #ubports [00:38] the question is about ubuntu. [00:39] not ubports [00:39] I'm creating a boot partition because I want to be able to use encrypted LVM some day. how big should I make my /boot? [00:39] fredzz, did you try using the dos2unix and unix2dos commands someone mentioned above..? [00:39] fredzz: so which ubuntu version are you running then? [00:39] Create a new text file with LF line-feeds called "commandfile" with the following content: [00:40] thx for your answer but thats too tech for me... [00:40] fredzz: all you posted so far clearly pointed to ubports. [00:41] running 18.04 LTS last version [00:41] fredzz, after creating the file in your preferred editor, write 'unix2dos', then a space, then the full path to your file [00:41] fredzz, what this command does is replace all line feeds in your file with LF line feeds [00:41] fredzz, this should be perfect, and easy [00:41] can you name an editor? I never did this , so no favorite [00:41] fredzz, did you edit a file before? [00:41] never [00:42] !info gedit bionic [00:42] gedit (source: gedit): official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1ubuntu1.2 (bionic), package size 425 kB, installed size 1926 kB [00:42] fredzz, emacs ;) [00:42] fredzz, ok, are you in ubuntu now? are you using ubuntu or kubuntu? [00:42] lubuntu lts 1804 [00:42] Sven_vB: 1 GB is probably future proof for a while. [00:42] tomreyn, thanks! [00:42] !info leafpad bionic [00:42] leafpad (source: leafpad): GTK+ based simple text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.18.1-5 (bionic), package size 87 kB, installed size 453 kB [00:42] fredzz, in lubuntu, take a look at leafpad [00:42] fredzz, you should have an icon for it in the start menu somewhere [00:43] Sven_vB: you don't actually need to have a separate /boot, though [00:43] openin leafpad [00:43] fredzz, cool, thanks for your patience with this [00:43] paste the code here? [00:43] Sveta: btw why unix2dos? I thought fredzz said he wanted standard LF endings? [00:43] !paste | fredzz [00:43] fredzz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:43] tomreyn, can it store a bootloader inside the encryption container nowadays? [00:44] Create a new text file with LF line-feeds called "commandfile" with the following content: [00:44] this is the place im stuck. [00:44] fredzz, copy/paste that content into your file ? [00:44] Sven_vB: yes, if you enable grub support for it, and are okay with entering the passphrase / key twice. [00:44] opened leafpad and paste the code there, right? [00:44] yes [00:45] but you can skip the unix2dos or dos2unix thing for now, i think leafpad will do it correctly [00:45] just save your file and proceed to the next step [00:45] saving as commandfile, right? [00:45] sarnold, on leafpad it will be standard LF endings right? [00:45] tomreyn, nah that would be too cumbersome. but nice that I get to choose. [00:45] fredzz, yes [00:46] sveta done!!!! [00:46] THX [00:47] nice [00:47] good luck with your further steps [00:47] Sveta: sorry, I don't know leafpad; if it's a standard unix text editor, it'll probably do the right thing [00:47] sarnold, yes, it is; thanks for your help [00:47] woot [00:51] meh, I forgot a partition earlier. is there a way to tell gdisk to move all partitions that are after #4 (or start after sector 44566527) 20 GB farther? there's no data on any of them yet. [00:55] I just created the LF file called commandline. Saved on desktop. Now I need to send the instalation files to device but it doesnt relate to the new created LF file. [00:55] fredzz, wasn't it called command"file" earlier? [00:56] Sven_vB: not sure about gdisk (well possible), i'd use gparted from a live / installer iso [00:56] for more info on my problem check https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/hammerhead# manual instalation [00:56] yes [00:56] "commandfile" [00:57] tomreyn, how do I tell gparted to just move the start/end sectors and not care about file systems and their content? usually gparted won't even offer resize for partitions that don't (yet) have a recognized fs. [00:57] thats the name of the LF file saved on the desktop [00:57] "If you need help with the installation, you can ask members of the community on telegram, matrix or the forum." [00:57] tomreyn, also it's 12 partitions, I'd prefer to click less than the traditional gparted resize UI ;) [00:58] I guess I'll just use some ninja sed action to convert gdisk's list into gdisk-compatible input. [00:58] stuck on the last step of install [00:59] Sven_vB: there's an sfdisk or similar that's intended for sed-ish kind of use; it *might* work out okay [00:59] please help conclude this [00:59] fredzz: the last time I moved files to an android phone was using the adb command line tool [01:00] sarnold, now that you mention it, I have a vague memory of sth. like sgdisk, but apt can't find that. [01:00] Sven_vB: oh, I'm sorry, sgdisk -- some examples are on https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS [01:01] Sven_vB: aha, gdisk package [01:01] in the tutorial it calls for a LF file wich I just did and the shows some adb commands for console [01:01] oh wow nice I already have it. :D [01:01] thanks! [01:01] but no reference to the new LF file [01:02] fredzz, adb sounds like you have some android as the target platform? [01:02] yes. soon to be ubports [01:02] still android [01:02] is android supported by Ubuntu nowadays? [01:03] there is #ubports too [01:03] in using ubuntu desktop to send ubports to N5. using the site's manual instalation [01:03] fredzz, ah I see. [01:04] I seem to have missed the tutorial URL. where is it? [01:04] https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/hammerhead [01:04] oh found it [01:04] just found the ubports irc channel bau maybe you can help me finish this and celebrate with me... [01:04] alas it's not just a blob of text on the page but hidden behind some javascvript and cliocking [01:05] manual instalation [01:05] clearly the best way to make documentation available [01:05] a README would have been silly :) [01:05] indeed I can't read that tutorial easily. [01:05] might be optimized for reading on android :) [01:06] I have already bricked 2 phones using the app. [01:06] manual may do the work for me [01:06] I can't blame them too much for going the Choose Your Own Adventure route -- that may reduce confusion. it just makes it way harder to see the wholepicture [01:06] they could d CYOA with plain links [01:07] and maybe even upgrade their UI once their JS manages to get ready [01:08] fredzz, I guess the adb command knows a default file name which happens to be the filename they told you to use for the NL file. [01:09] if you can find a directly hyperlink-able version of the tutorial, I could try follow along and see myself [01:13] the last lne of the adb code block (on the very bottom of the android guide) is actually where the commandfile is transferred to the phone. but for this to work, fredzz would need to install + configure adb first of all, and connect a non-bricked android device. [01:20] oh ok [01:21] yeah acquiring enough sacrificial devices is a core problem of most hardware colonialization projects. [01:28] wow niiiice an official driver for Fresco Logic USB VGA "cards" https://github.com/FrescoLogic/FL2000 . I hope ubuntu adopts official support for that soon. [01:29] # NOTE: DO NOT SEND THIS FILE OUTSIDE OF FRESCO LOGIC. [01:29] not a promising start === BaW_ is now known as BaW === Fenhl_ is now known as Fenhl === zbenjamin is now known as Guest20626 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:32] err, yeah. [01:32] sarnold, err, since you're helping others, i'd like to send you a privmsg.. there's a helpers channel available. please let me know if you're OK with this [01:32] Sveta: sure [01:34] "Distribution in any form to unauthorized parties is strictly prohibited. [...] NOTE: THIS FILE MAY BE SENT OUTSIDE OF FRESCO LOGIC." [01:34] "Purpose: TODO: PLEASE RENAME THIS FILE TO SOMETHING USEFUL" [01:46] I noted it in https://github.com/FrescoLogic/FL2000/issues/29 , if you want attribution for finding it, query me. [01:48] where did you find the "Distribution in any form"? git grep can't find it in master [02:16] Is it possible to remove EVERYTHING that tries to manage the network for me, and just configure things with /etc/network/interfaces like the good old days? [02:17] Not Ubuntu specific, but is Bluetooth Low Energy basically a required, integral part of Bluetooth 4 and newer? [02:19] naptastic: try apt-get install ifupdown netplan.io- network-manager- [02:19] naptastic: that'll install ifupdown, and remove netplan and NM [02:20] sarnold, thanks very much! [02:22] does anyone know what this left-most icon is? https://imgur.com/a/cc8AC0y it appears for a split second before disappearing [02:24] Hi, why does "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/g++ g++ /usr/bin/g++-8 60" not have any effect? [02:26] https://la.wentropy.com/Sz17 [02:27] amosbird: try /usr/bin/g++-8 --version and see what it reports? [02:28] Is it just me or does 19.04 run alot smoother on older devices? [02:28] in comparison to 18.04 [02:29] sarnold: it's 8.3 [02:30] amosbird: alright.. is that '60' a large enough value? (forgive me I never use this interface, I usually just manage /etc/alternatives links directly) [02:30] amosbird: (or small enough?) [02:30] pizzaiolo: I've had some luck finding unknown indicators on https://material.io/tools/icons/?style=baseline [02:31] sarnold: not sure [02:31] yeah, using 80 works [02:32] amosbird: odd indeed. but hooray :) [02:34] what do you all use for a system monitor? [02:35] top and vmstat 1 are my usual first go-to tools [02:37] hmm [02:38] I was looking for something that has more of the functionality of the windows system monitor. It is actually quite good. [02:38] what does it do? what specifically are you looking for? [02:39] magic_ninja_work, gnome-system-monitor maybe? [02:39] thanks sarnold! [02:40] pizzaiolo: any luck? I couldn't spot it on that giant list of icons.. [02:41] pizzaiolo: hmm... android's also got a "manage notifications" item when you drag down from the top, that shows which applications did notifications recently -- any chance it's listed there? [02:42] i don't think gnome-system-monitor shows cpu usage. [02:42] sorry, I mean network usage [02:43] sarnold not yet, although i suspect it's related to usb-c/thunderbolt being connected [02:43] pizzaiolo: ohho, what's *that* do? :) [02:45] sarnold for connecting my two displays, have them daisy chained with displayport [02:46] pizzaiolo: d'oh. sorry. I thought those were android indicators. it must be quittin time :) === [b0b] is now known as b0b === [over] is now known as over [03:39] Hello! I'm making an embedded device with an SDCard, which shall automount. When users plug in an exfat card, I want to use the "nonempty" mount option, but when they use vfat mount fails using "unrecognized mount option 'nonempty'". How can I tell mount to use whatever options make sense for the detected filesystem, and silenty ignore the others? === popgreeny is now known as panorain [04:21] How do I make sure my Ubuntu install USB stick can run on older computers. [04:22] I know there is some sort of difference between Legacy and (whatever the other one is) [04:22] EFI or UEFI or something like that. [04:24] Goop: All Ubuntu ISO images are capable of both. [04:25] anyone know where I would find where I've stored my app images? [04:25] Eickmeyer, I made a Ubuntu LTS 16.04 install stick, but it's not showing up on an old laptop (Dell/Inspiron 1721/AMD/made in 2008) one-time boot menu. [04:26] I know the laptop support USB boot, because there's the option in the BIOS. [04:27] Goop: F12 to bring up the boot choose menu perhaps? [04:27] asphyxia: 'app images' ? [04:28] Goop: Also, verify you wrote the image to the USB drive correctly (in addition to what lotuspsychje mentioned) [04:28] lotuspsychje, I tried it again. This time, I put in the flash drive while it was loading, instead of before system power on. [04:28] The computer found it. [04:30] lotuspsychje: I can't find it ugh [04:31] asphyxia: elaborate please, wich apps are you looking for? [04:31] lotuspsychje: looking for joplin appimage, pretty amauteur with the whole linux filing system [04:33] asphyxia: contact the joplin maintainer [04:34] pretty sure it just depends on where I unpacked it [04:34] which I can't find/remember [04:34] asphyxia: from a terminal you can find things in ubuntu with: whereis foo [04:36] If you do sudo updatedb and then locate you can find files pretty much anywhere in the file system instantaneously [04:36] The sudo updatedb part is build the index for locate so it can be fast [04:37] For example if I remembered that I downloaded a pdf with "Clojure" in the title I could do locate Clojure [04:37] It is case-sensitive though so if you want that turned off you specify locate -i [04:39] Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 19.04 on a laptop. It keeps freezing after bootup. I think there's an issue with the graphics driver. I am not sure what graphics card is on the laptop. Any suggestions? It is currently using the noveau driver. [04:39] Can you check what graphics card you have in the BIOS screen? [04:40] !nomodeset | xrandr [04:40] xrandr: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [04:41] Good morning, folks. [04:41] I'm stuck trying to enable Jack. [04:43] Mostly looking here for people's anecdotes and experiences, in an attempt to get my Jack to actually produce audio. [04:43] readyready15728: you're a legend, thanks, I'm saving that command for future use [04:43] !chat | CheetahPixie for experiences [04:43] CheetahPixie for experiences: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [04:44] asphyxia, :D [04:47] I'm asking here out of desparation mostly. [04:48] CheetahPixie, do you have any diagnostic info? [04:51] ok, nomodeset got me in. But now my display is rather...small... [04:51] Are there 3rd party drivers I need to install for my graphics card? [04:52] xrandr: now to see wich drivers your card needs, ubuntu-drivers list [04:53] nvidia-driver-418 and nvidia-driver-390 are what appears [04:53] readyready15728 nothing remarkable; just that Jack says the transport is off, and that audio literally refuses to work. [04:53] xrandr: wich card chipset do you have please? [04:54] lotuspsychje: I'm not 100% sure [04:54] xrandr: sudo lshw -C video [04:55] ok [04:55] Hmm. [04:55] Messed with the patch bay, apparently the correct IO for audio is playback_7 and playback_8. [04:56] lotuspsychje: nVidia Quadro M2000M [04:56] xrandr: try 390 [04:56] ok [04:56] How do I make those defaults? [04:57] CheetahPixie, I can't really help you unless I have more info but you can try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure [04:58] This is ALSA specific. [04:58] lotuspsychje: reboot after installing those drivers? [04:58] I'm trying to set up Jack. [04:59] xrandr: yes please [05:00] !jack | CheetahPixie [05:00] CheetahPixie: The JACK Audio Connection Kit is a sound server meant for professional applications, allowing different audio protocols and applications to interconnect in nearly unlimited ways. This is the core of Ubuntu Studio's audio workflow. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/What%20is%20JACK for more information on JACK in general. [05:00] CheetahPixie: Are you using qjackctl to start Jack? [05:00] I have a PC that runs both Ubuntu and Windows. The problem revolves around the way the two OSes store the real-time clock. [05:01] In Ubuntu, the clock is set correctly. In Windows, it’s 7 hours head. (I am at GMT-7) [05:01] *ahead [05:01] SoItBegins: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/time-differences-ubuntu-1604-windows-10/ [05:01] Thank you! [05:11] hmm [05:11] so only certain applications seem to produce audio when jack's up. [05:12] have you folks ever encountered this error: ValueError: Namespace GtkSource not available for version 3.0 ? [05:12] pip package [05:13] Solved it; pavucontrol, switch applications over [05:14] za1b1tsu: its better when you ask questions, you also mention the complete story, what exactly are you trying to do? [05:17] How come, running diskpart on Windows I can successfully set read-only mode on a drive (USB stick). But running hdparm on Ubuntu, doesn't seem to have an effect? [05:18] hdparm -r1 /dev/sdx [05:18] It says it sets read-only mode, but take out the USB and re-insert, and it's gone. [05:18] lotuspsychje: Thank you it worked!! [05:19] !yay | xrandr [05:19] xrandr: Glad you made it! :-) [05:19] Have tried with NTFS and UDF filesystems. [05:21] Now, I've got new problems. [05:21] How do I forward my microphone to Jack? === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [06:02] Hi all, where do I tell ubuntu server 18.04 to issue DHCP INFORM packets when configured with a static ip? [06:03] Triffid_Hunter: #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers [06:03] thanks === Kira is now known as k_sze [06:04] Hello there, I have an 8 x 4TB RAID... best filesystem to use? Ext4? === mouses is now known as longcat [06:10] Ascavasaion: ZFS. === morphis2 is now known as morphis [06:14] thank you blackflow [06:59] In an ubuntu installation. I am partitioning. How large does the Efi partition need to be, and what size? [07:02] Ascavasaion, I don't know, but mine is 209MiB === aavar is now known as Aavar [07:02] 250 mb would do [07:02] !uefi [07:02] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [07:02] Aavar, Thank you, much appreciated. [07:02] but the installer should do this automaticly [07:03] OerHeks, I am installing Lubuntu, and the installer warned me that I do not have one and that I would be proceeding at my own risk. [07:03] clean the disk, choose partitioning GPT.. [07:14] Thank you OerHeks [07:19] hi, quick question, when im in terminal and i do 'sudo passwd user' it takes me to the root user instead of giving me the option to change the passwd, is that normal? [07:20] Hi everyone. Yesterday my Ethernet controller just disappeared and it wont come back on. Why would it just disappear? [07:21] does rebooting help? [07:21] it shouldn't be required, but i would suggest doing it as a troubleshooting step [07:21] cart_man: sudo lshw -C network [07:21] unless you know the time (hour and minute) when it disappeared - then it could be correlated with the logs.. [07:24] Smokie: "takes you to"? passwd takes one argument (and options) and that argument is the username you're changing password for. If you change your own, you don't need sudo or arguments, just type `passwd`. [07:24] s/changing/managing/ [07:24] blackflow, i tried that too, it didnt do anything [07:24] 'passwd user' does nothing [07:25] @Sveta Ok so it says network DISABLED... I never did that [07:25] Smokie: then you have a broken system there. Which Ubuntu is this? [07:26] its an old system, let me check the version [07:27] blackflow, 14.04 [07:28] Smokie: for starters that version is no longer supported unless you're paying for ESM. You should upgrade ASAP otherwise. But as for this, what does `which passwd` say? [07:28] cart_man: can you share us more details of your system please? ubuntu version? system up to date? when did network vanished? [07:29] blackflow, gives me /usr/bin/passwd [07:30] Smokie: so when you type just `passwd` it doesn't prompt you for current password? [07:30] blackflow, no, it doesnt [07:31] Sveta: lotuspsychje: -> https://pastebin.com/YP8YVx97 [07:31] hmm something is messed up.. 'exit' is not doing anything now too...wtf [07:31] lotuspsychje: Its Ubuntu Bionic [07:31] Smokie: anything in the logs about that? I don't remember which log is teh default on 14.04, /var/log/messages or .../syslog, and passwd should also log into /var/log/auth.log [07:31] cart_man: uname -a please? [07:31] Smokie: dmesg | tail ? [07:32] lotuspsychje: It vanished about 2 days ago... unplugged it and replugged it. -> Linux hpnote 4.18.0-22-generic #23~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 08:37:25 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [07:32] cart_man: your kernel sint up to date, please update before asking support issues [07:33] !uptodate | cart_man [07:33] cart_man: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. [07:34] blackflow, dmesg tail shows a lot of UDP bad checksum from different IP's [07:35] i think im taking this server offline [07:35] blackflow, i logged out, started a new terminal session with my sudo user and when i typed 'passwd' it took me to the root user without asking for a password [07:36] i think this server is a gonner [07:36] Smokie: you typed passwd and you became root? [07:37] yes :/ [07:37] in my sudo user [07:37] Smokie: by "sudo user" you mean the user with sudoer rights? [07:37] yeah [07:37] Smokie: you don't perchance have an alias or something in your shell rc that would mess with usage of passwd? [07:37] i have a system with 12 GB RAM and 12 GB of swap (on SSD). the root fs is running on SSD.. when moving a large file from the / partition to an external hard drive (hdd), the system is virtually unusable.. [07:38] blackflow, no, i never did [07:38] the pointer lags across the screen.. switching workspaces takes several seconds.. [07:38] Smokie: sounds fishy and compromised then. [07:38] yes [07:38] launching new terminals takes up to 10 seconds - with graphic lag [07:39] blackflow, dumb question, give me a command can only be run using root user [07:39] Smokie: ideally try to figure out how it got compromised. Nuke & Pave to 18.04 is the way to go forward, but if you don't know what happened, it migth happen again. [07:39] Smokie: dunno.... parted [07:40] i donthave the expertise to diagnosed a linux system that way [07:40] !details | zamba [07:40] zamba: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [07:41] lotuspsychje: BTW yesterday my Chrome just removed itself. Couldnt find it anywhere and I had to reinstall it. Also a couple other apps. I am upgrading now [07:43] cart_man: we dont really support chrome here, but self-uninstalling packages sounds fishy.. === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [07:44] Smokie: figured out if you can run privileged commands with no sudo? [07:44] Hi all, is there a way to update some system information in the BIOS (specificaly the serial number) from Ubuntu directly? Or I don't have a choice but to do it from the BIOS? [07:45] !biosupdate | Pronoe [07:45] Pronoe: To see how to update your bios on Ubuntu visit the community collected methods here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate [07:45] that's not what they were asking for, lotuspsychje. [07:45] Pronoe: updating the asset information is likely only doable from the BIOS or vendor specific tools. [07:46] Pronoe, dmidecode should give that info: dmidecode -s system-serial-number // baseboard-serial-number // chassis-serial-number [07:46] Smokie: what does ''type sudo'' output? "type" is a shell command that tells you what type of command it is, in particular whether it is an alias or function, or just an external command [07:47] blackflow, yeah, it doesnt run root commands on my normal user, but as soon as i type 'passwd' it logs me in to root user and i can run what i want [07:47] ryuo Thanks I was afraid of that. [07:47] OerHeks This info is missing from there, hence my question. [07:47] ok same with ''type passwd'' then [07:48] Pronoe: strange. dmidecode always contained my serial numbers. [07:48] geirha, gives me this 'sudo is /usr/bin/sudo [07:48] ' [07:48] geirha, 'passwd is hashed (/usr/bin/passwd) [07:48] ' [07:49] ok, so no aliases or functions that alters the behaviors then [07:49] ryuo I've got the board serial number but I need the system one. I believe dmidecode is pulling its info from the BIOS. [07:49] geirha, when im in root it gives me this 'passwd is /usr/bin/passwd [07:49] ' [07:49] Pronoe: "system"? How is that different from the board? [07:49] Pronoe: the serial number on the case? [07:50] yup [07:50] this is usually only needed if the board was replaced. [07:50] geirha, when i type 'sudo us' it asks for the password as usual [07:51] well, just try it from BIOS I guess. It shouldn't be a problem if you only have a small number. [07:51] thing is, if its compromised (which im sure it is) why would the hacker use a common command like passwd ? [07:51] so many ppl use this command and can easily find out its screwed up [07:54] HI All, what's the difference between Ubuntu mini.iso and full iso image? [07:55] Smokie: because it's a suid bin. If there's a vuln, it's easy gateway to root. BTw, what does `file /usr/bin/passwd` say? [07:56] Hi, i tried to load a module at bootime from /etc/rc.local with /sbin/modprobe msr, but for some reason it's not loaded after boot, i can load it with no problem manually from a terminal, how can i check what's going on, why it does not log? [07:56] log/load* [07:56] akem-lnvo: to manually load modules just list them in /etc/modules [07:56] blackflow, /usr/bin/passwd: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, corrupted section header size [07:57] Smokie: Nuke & pave time. [07:57] Thanks blackflow, i will try that. [07:58] shit [07:58] blackflow, i assume its risky to know what to back up and not to back up? :s [07:58] Smokie: absolutely, this system cannot be trusted any more. [08:01] damn it [08:01] thanks blackflow [08:01] blackflow, out of curiousity, is it the "corrupt section header" that gave it away? [08:01] Smokie: that and it's statically linked. [08:01] Smokie: no, statically linked [08:02] the one ubuntu ships is always dynamically linked. [08:02] someone tampered with it. [08:02] yeah [08:02] plus they usually have a checksum thing. [08:02] that's in the (corrupt) header methinks, yea [08:02] /usr/bin/passwd: setuid ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/l, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, BuildID[sha1]=7842b6fc0e39aceb47814351fc187ef18fa8e14a, stripped [08:03] for 18.04 [08:03] is this just an ubuntu thing or linux systems in general like centos etc? [08:04] Smokie: Ubuntu thing. How other distributions provide or build passwd is distribution specific. [08:04] But it should be the same for all debian family distributions. [08:04] ok [08:05] one last thing, whats the differences between dynamically and statically linked? [08:06] Smokie: statically linked has everything linked into a single binary. dynamically linked has to load the external shared objects (libraries) to run first. [08:06] Smokie: statically linked include all the code that would otherwise be in separate .so libs, mostly provided by other packages. [08:06] in this case, a compromised package i assume [08:06] most likely vector, yes. installing a malicious package. [08:07] but it could be anything if it uses a privilege escalation exploit. [08:07] how can someone protect self from these types of stuff? [08:07] I wouldn't mark that as most likely vector. Is this server running PHP? [08:07] keep yourself patched and perhaps be more wary of what you install from 3rd parties. [08:07] besides ssh port, disabling passwords and using keys [08:07] blackflow, no, it doesnot [08:08] Smokie: what public services is it running? [08:08] Smokie: and are you using third party code, PPAs, ... ? [08:08] ryuo, nothing i have from a 3rd party except webmin.. but yeah, its an old system and missing some patches [08:08] ah webmin.... thta thing is a security swiss hole [08:08] always keep your system up to date [08:08] blackflow, no 3rd party code or PPA's besides webmin, insatlled it from scratch [08:08] swiss cheese lol [08:09] ah, an ZNC, from scratch too [08:09] it is? [08:09] :O [08:09] Smokie: so the most likely vector I _think_ would be an RCE through webmin, then second-stage payload through a suid vulnerability, or a kernel vuln. [08:10]